2009-2010 University of Michigan Application Thread

[adele87]

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It is obnoxious to limit the number of invitations to second look in the first place. It is even more obnoxious to preferentially give those spots to people who are "more diverse". It's fine to favor diversity in admissions decisions, but once you are past the acceptance stage, EVERYONE is making difficult decisions about where to go to school. Everyone deserves an equal opportunity to revisit their options in order to make informed decisions. Schools have other effective ways to recruit for diversity: scholarship money, special events, emails, phone calls. They do not hesitate to utilize these tools.

It's irritating that they would rather have a "quality" second look for a select group at the expense of giving ALL their accepted students the opportunity to revisit. I know if I were shut out of going to one of my second looks, it would give me great pause if I were seriously considering attending that school.

 

[womp]

The fact that you are even equating the two shows your ignorance of the topic. (now that was a cop out answer).

So this is the excellence that Michigan actively recruits...

 

[BubbaChuck3]

So this is the excellence that Michigan actively recruits...

I'm confused. I was being sarcastic in my answer and it was completely off topic to a school specific thread. Hence my crudeness. I apologize if you were offended or put off.

 

[ApoK]

I touched on this a little bit above. But rest assured NW and U Mich do not have similar reputation. And I say this as objectively as I can. NW is a great great great school and is renowned for many things but it is not in the same stratosphere in terms of medicine. This is something that you can find out for yourself by asking attendings at your closest hospital. I know that I will get rebuked for this comment...oh well

It has nothing to do with it being more money. It is the quality of the second look. After a certain amount of people it doesn't have the same feel. It is not as intimate it is harder to garner the same excitement. Everyone that wants to go to the hospital Saturday morning won't be able to and countless other things. It is about quality of the second look that they are trying to preserve. It is just common sense man. C'mon now.

Yeah it is obvious what is going on in this situation. U Mich is trying to have a diverse class and they show preference to some because of that. It is a very common practice actually.

This is not unique at all. Schools don't just accept people and then just cross their fingers that their class turns out like it does. Go to the Yale thread. Some people got several recruitment calls while others did not. Why do you think that happened? Similar things happen at UPenn. The people with the highest gpa don't get full tuition. I have a buddy there with close to a full ride and he was not the most spectacular numerically. Every school in their own ways shows a level of favoritism to build as diverse of a class as possible. Just because you are not privy to this information doesn't mean it happens.

Lastly, it is pretty clear you have no interest in U Mich. Penn is a fabulous place and a great city. I live there. You will have a great time. I am just curious why you feel the need to denigrate U Mich constantly. I am all about constructive criticism but there is a way of going about that. And some of your comments have been pretty inflammatory. Or at least I thought so. Wouldn't your time be better spent talking up your future school?

First of all, Michigan is not in a different “stratosphere” than Northwestern. They are extremely comparable with many, many students eventually choosing between the two. In fact, I posed this question to my Mayo/Harvard trained MD/PhD PI because I thought the same thing you do (because of SDN and UM marketing material…). He unequivocally told me that NU and UM are almost the same with regard to reputation but that Michigan has more residency directors, which are alums. You can’t be objective and it’s obvious. You’ve enjoyed the Michigan kool-aid.

It’s about the quality of the second look? That’s total BS. Michigan has 170ish students in their actual class. I find it pretty sad that they can’t even accommodate this many people to second look. Your argument isn’t valid. If it were, then UM is intentionally misrepresenting itself to make it seem more intimate than it could possibly ever be.

Schools do recruit for diversity/fit but usually with scholarships. The notion that UM recruits by actively excluding accepted students is what’s different here and it’s not a good thing by any means.

My comments are not inflammatory. I'm just raising my displeasure with an issue of the school. The school can choose to take it and try and improve (as I hope it does). You just seem to be hypersensitive because you love UM so much. It makes little sense to me personally. UNC and UW are comparable to UM, despite the marketing materials UM promotes. You would be out of your mind to turn down full rides to pay tuition at UM.

 

[medat101]

This forum is getting a too hostile and about issues that we can't resolve or will ever agree on! Let's stop attacking each other. Yes, not everyone managed to get into second look weekend and that absolutely sucks, but its no reason to turn on each other in this forum. If you really have a problem with the way UMich does business, then TELL THEM DIRECTLY instead of indirectly and anonymously bashing them in internet forums. Give the admissions office the chance to directly respond to your concerns instead of you waiting around for them to indirectly reply in a vague tweet. I'm sure the entire admissions office would happily accept criticism and finally review their admission processes if highly qualified prospective students directly told them the reason they will choose another school over UMich.

 

[BubbaChuck3]

This forum is getting a too hostile and about issues that we can't resolve or will ever agree on! Let's stop attacking each other. Yes, not everyone managed to get into second look weekend and that absolutely sucks, but its no reason to turn on each other in this forum. If you really have a problem with the way UMich does business, then TELL THEM DIRECTLY instead of indirectly and anonymously bashing them in internet forums. Give the admissions office the chance to directly respond to your concerns instead of you waiting around for them to indirectly reply in a vague tweet. I'm sure the entire admissions office would happily accept criticism and finally review their admission processes if highly qualified prospective students directly told them the reason they will choose another school over UMich.

I wholeheartedly agree. And I apologize for my part in the hostility. It is very unbecoming of me.

Apok: Just to address your post though. I was really trying to over-exaggerate when I made my comment about NW. I guess I didn't do a good job at it. I don't think there is a big difference in the two schools and even if I did I would never make such a comment if that is how I felt. I rather not address the rest of your post since it will cause more bickering. But I do agree I was being overly sensitive and was not thinking before I wrote. I sent you a PM about your last point.

Sorry everyone. Let's carry on to business as usual.

 

[Bbon]

Michigan can definitely thank itself for such a low yield. Who's going to pay an extra $20-30,000 for an oos school in the midwest without getting a chance to revisit? Send out 420 acceptances, and figure 1 out of 5 people will be swayed by a flash drive and 1 hour presentation during an interview day that was probably 6+ months ago.

Do we really need Michigan to address these concerns via Twitter? Lemme give you the obvious answer: "Hey guys, sorry it sucks for you, but it's worked for us for years, and we think our class is pretty kick ass as it is. If we really, really wanted you here, you'd be the ones with the money/revisit invites. So if you can't deal with that, don't come here. We've got another 50 people who'll take your place in a heartbeat. kthxbi" That might be more than 140 characters, but I think that sums it up pretty well.

Despite what impression this post might convey, no hard feelings Michigan. I understand the way the world works. Good luck with the class of 2014.

 

[Pacino2010]

hmmm, just be happy you guys have been accepted to michigan, even if you didn't get to visit the place during 2nd look.

I posted this question a few days ago but no one responded. Does anyone know how many instate kids choose to go elsewhere, perhaps to the point that they would have to go to the upper tier waitlist (where I am)?

 

[masturhu]

With all this talk of scholarships and attracting oos students, does anyone know how many merit scholarships are actually given out?

 

[whiskers109]

I dont know how many people received scholarships, but I emailed admissions and they said they'll consider additional students for funding. Hope this is useful info.. It is to me, because I am not sure if Im bold enough to uproot my family and move to a different state and accumulate lots lots of debt when i can go to an in state school..

 

[ApoK]

With all this talk of scholarships and attracting oos students, does anyone know how many merit scholarships are actually given out?

I remember Dean Gay saying "we have so much money to give out in merit scholarships that you shouldn't worry about it" during my interview day. Wonder if that's as much use to you as it was to me lol.

Also, I want to make the point that I'm not bashing the quality of UM as a medical school. Even if it's not the best, it's still obviously a great place. However, I think they have some major work to do in how they treat students post-acceptance. As adele87 put it, they aren't doing right by their students to be selective in who can attend a 2nd look.

Additionally, there's pretty much no way I'm going to a lesser school for *significantly* more money even if I did like it a lot. Then, to top it off, they don't even let you come visit the school again. Not very friendly at all, IMO.

 

[DocDrakeRamoray]

hmmm, just be happy you guys have been accepted to michigan, even if you didn't get to visit the place during 2nd look.

Exactly.👍

I don't understand all these post-acceptance complaints. We all knew that it was going to be expensive. We all knew that not everyone would get the money. We all know that Michigan is a great school that's why we all applied and were happy to get interiviews and even happier to be accepted.

If people aren't happy with Michigan, just don't go there😛. It's simple. No one is forcing you to go there. There are hundreds of people willing to take your spot. Please do them a favor and withdraw your application.

I've been accepted at a few schools and interviewed at many. I think Michigan is the best in how they treat their prospective and admitted students. Michigan's admission's office is most helpful.

I know people on low budget who recieved reimbursments for tickets to come to interviews. how many schools do that? Some of you don't care because you could afford tickets, but this gesture from Michigan speaks for itself.

I also know people who recieved full tuition scholarships and were allowed to sign up for 2nd look just recently. They did not recieve email inviting to sign up when everyone else did. I read somewhere that there are about 10 people getting full tuition scholarships, so they're not taking anyone's spots for revisit . Maybe Michigan should give everyone full tuition scholarships ( I'm not against it) so people will say Michigan is fair , I'm sure even then people would find something to complain about. Ungrateful, just ungrateful.

I will repeat. If anyone of you aren't happy with Michigan do others a favor 😀.......you know what to do.

Go Blue! (even though I'm not a University of Michigan student, but may become very soon 🙂 maybe if one of you guys withdraws).

P.S. If you really want to visit the school just go on your own some day and ask them if they can arrange some shadowing and other activities like a session with financial aid office etc.

 

[Pacino2010]

i am glad to see someone agrees with me. i would love to go to michigan and i am on the u.t. waitlist. hopefully, i can get off of it and attend next year.

 

[BubbaChuck3]

On a more positive note I am pretty jealous of the commencement speaker that UMich got this year- Barry O. Only if second look was a week earlier


By the way. Goodluck Pacino I hope you get in!

 

[ApoK]

Exactly.👍

I don't understand all these post-acceptance complaints. We all knew that it was going to be expensive. We all knew that not everyone would get the money. We all know that Michigan is a great school that's why we all applied and were happy to get interiviews and even happier to be accepted.

If people aren't happy with Michigan, just don't go there😛. It's simple. No one is forcing you to go there. There are hundreds of people willing to take your spot. Please do them a favor and withdraw your application.

I've been accepted at a few schools and interviewed at many. I think Michigan is the best in how they treat their prospective and admitted students. Michigan's admission's office is most helpful.

I know people on low budget who recieved reimbursments for tickets to come to interviews. how many schools do that? Some of you don't care because you could afford tickets, but this gesture from Michigan speaks for itself.

I also know people who recieved full tuition scholarships and were allowed to sign up for 2nd look just recently. They did not recieve email inviting to sign up when everyone else did. I read somewhere that there are about 10 people getting full tuition scholarships, so they're not taking anyone's spots for revisit . Maybe Michigan should give everyone full tuition scholarships ( I'm not against it) so people will say Michigan is fair , I'm sure even then people would find something to complain about. Ungrateful, just ungrateful.

I will repeat. If anyone of you aren't happy with Michigan do others a favor 😀.......you know what to do.

Go Blue! (even though I'm not a University of Michigan student, but may become very soon 🙂 maybe if one of you guys withdraws).

P.S. If you really want to visit the school just go on your own some day and ask them if they can arrange some shadowing and other activities like a session with financial aid office etc.

I'll be happy to withdraw just for you. I'll even request that they accept you off the waitlist to take my spot.

Also, FYI, there's no way they gave out 10 full-tuition scholarships this year if they only had 1.6 million dollars in merit aid (as mentioned earlier). 180k*10 would already more than that.

 

[JasonE]

I'll be happy to withdraw just for you. I'll even request that they accept you off the waitlist to take my spot.

Also, FYI, there's no way they gave out 10 full-tuition scholarships this year if they only had 1.6 million dollars in merit aid (as mentioned earlier). 180k*10 would already more than that.

is it 1.6 over 4 years? or 1.6 for each year? and why is the number 1.6 (not sure if thats really true or just hearsay)

to roughly quote director ruiz: "50% of the info on student doctor is incorrect"

 

[bobsmith]

is it 1.6 over 4 years? or 1.6 for each year? and why is the number 1.6 (not sure if thats really true or just hearsay)

yeah I've seen the number 1.6 thrown around a few times on this site, but I have no idea where it came from or how true it is. I feel like someone just said it once and it stuck

 

[ApoK]

yeah I've seen the number 1.6 thrown around a few times on this site, but I have no idea where it came from or how true it is. I feel like someone just said it once and it stuck

Yeah, good point. 1.6M does seem like a ridiculously low number.

One of those two things has to be wrong though. My guess is they have more than 1.6M to be used for the 4 years the class will be there. But, it's exactly that... a guess.

 

[DocDrakeRamoray]

I'll be happy to withdraw just for you. I'll even request that they accept you off the waitlist to take my spot.

Also, FYI, there's no way they gave out 10 full-tuition scholarships this year if they only had 1.6 million dollars in merit aid (as mentioned earlier). 180k*10 would already more than that.

180K? I assume this number is for OOS students, but it should be lower for in-states. I may be wrong. In any case these few people didn't take anyone's spot for the revisit.

Also, 1.6 M is probably more than most state schools can offer. Michigan is a generous school, unfortunately not everyone can recieve aid from them.

 

[masturhu]

any instate kids get any scholarships?

 

[ApoK]

180K? I assume this number is for OOS students, but it should be lower for in-states. I may be wrong. In any case these few people didn't take anyone's spot for the revisit.

Also, 1.6 M is probably more than most state schools can offer. Michigan is a generous school, unfortunately not everyone can recieve aid from them.

If there are fewer than 100 spots, I'm fairly certain that these 10 dean's merit scholars are taking spots. Again, neither of these numbers is concrete though. And, regardless, I personally think anyone given a full scholarship (or any scholarship) should be allowed to attend revisit weekend. It would defeat the purpose if they couldn't... the adcom isn't stupid.

Where I disagree with their actions is that they exclude other accepted students. Not only that, not everyone had a fair chance to sign up. If they were going to have a limited number of spots and absolutely couldn't invite everyone, then they should have allocated a number for scholarship recipients and e-mailed everyone else in advance of when registration opened. Instead, they selectively invited certain people early and then other people late when the only available spots were for the waitlist. It was devious on their part.

Also, yes, OOS dean's scholarships are for 180k over 4 years. Also, it's likely UM doesn't award much in-state merit-based aid. They don't need to because people from Michigan would love to go there...

 

[DocDrakeRamoray]

If there are fewer than 100 spots, I'm fairly certain that these 10 dean's merit scholars are taking spots. Again, neither of these numbers is concrete though. And, regardless, I personally think anyone given a full scholarship (or any scholarship) should be allowed to attend revisit weekend. It would defeat the purpose if they couldn't... the adcom isn't stupid.

Where I disagree with their actions is that they exclude other accepted students. Not only that, not everyone had a fair chance to sign up. If they were going to have a limited number of spots and absolutely couldn't invite everyone, then they should have allocated a number for scholarship recipients and e-mailed everyone else in advance of when registration opened. Instead, they selectively invited certain people early and then other people late when the only available spots were for the waitlist. It was devious on their part.

Also, yes, OOS dean's scholarships are for 180k over 4 years. Also, it's likely UM doesn't award much in-state merit-based aid. They don't need to because people from Michigan would love to go there...

ApoK and others: I hope my previous posts didn't offend anyone.

I agree that they should've sent the email to everyone at once. I wonder if there was a glitch in the system. I think it would be the best if we asked adm.office. We need to hear their explanation.

 

[whiskers109]

I am fairly certain this is what Robert Ruiz said during my interview day : 2M for the incoming M1 class.

 

[JasonE]

most (if not all) the scholarship comes from donations so they don't really contol it that much. most likely true for most schools

 

[medat101]

From the UM twitter (and in response to SDNers I'm sure..), "Finite resources=choices we make: interviews, offers, schlrships, revisits are absolutely prioritzed in allocation as we build next class.
about 2 hours ago via Echofon"

 

[BubbaChuck3]

From the UM twitter (and in response to SDNers I'm sure..), "Finite resources=choices we make: interviews, offers, schlrships, revisits are absolutely prioritzed in allocation as we build next class.
about 2 hours ago via Echofon"
So I guess they do decide who get's a revisit invitation based on some priority system?

I hate to add more wood to the fire, but for those who have g-mail, I noticed to the right of the subject line of my second look email from Sandra, it says "high priority" in light grey font (and I got the email in the first wave).. does anyone else have a priority status assigned?

No offense medat101 but I was wondering what is the utility in this activity? Doesn't it just cause more drama on the thread. In either case I don't have a priority status but I think I got an invite the first day.

 

[medat101]

No offense medat101 but I was wondering what is the utility in this activity? Doesn't it just cause more drama on the thread. In either case I don't have a priority status but I think I got an invite the first day.

You are right, dad... 😉
I need to stop procrastinating on this site. Ok, back to friendly posts...

 

[womp]

Also, 1.6 M is probably more than most state schools can offer. Michigan is a generous school, unfortunately not everyone can recieve aid from them.

Most state schools accept just about 10-20% OOS, and the in-state tuition burden is usually significantly lower than the OOS. Michigan is pretty unique as a state school in taking more than 50% of their class from OOS, so the $1.6M is spread pretty thin. The OOS students in essence provide a subsidy to the IS students. In the end, it's money changing from the left hand to the right hand. We should just have lower tuition in higher education (as in home prices during the housing bubble, there's an uncanny tendency for tuition to go as high as loans would allow). I love it when the awesome doctors I shadow tell me they paid $800 cash for a full year's med school tuition (without scholarships or aid) back in the 1960s. The world didn't end then.

And yup, I definitely heard a number under 2 million at my interview.

 

[BubbaChuck3]

You are right, dad... 😉
I need to stop procrastinating on this site. Ok, back to friendly posts...

hahaha ouch! that one hurt.

 

[ClarKent]

I hear Michigan has jumped to #6 on the Us News ranking for 2011. I understand that you can put only so much faith into Us News rankings (and that these rankings have numerous flaws), but Michigan must still feel pretty good about it. For the record, I sorta kinda regret withdrawing from it post-interview ;P.

 

[SteinUmStein]

I hear Michigan has jumped to #6 on the Us News ranking for 2011. I understand that you can put only so much faith into Us News rankings (and that these rankings have numerous flaws), but Michigan must still feel pretty good about it. For the record, I sorta kinda regret withdrawing from it post-interview ;P.

Wow... if that's true, that's an insane jump. 😱 Rankings aren't everything, but that big of a jump is certainly notable. It does seem like their research funding in general has been rising quickly in the past few years.

 

[DocDrakeRamoray]

Most state schools accept just about 10-20% OOS, and the in-state tuition burden is usually significantly lower than the OOS. Michigan is pretty unique as a state school in taking more than 50% of their class from OOS, so the $1.6M is spread pretty thin. The OOS students in essence provide a subsidy to the IS students. In the end, it's money changing from the left hand to the right hand. We should just have lower tuition in higher education (as in home prices during the housing bubble, there's an uncanny tendency for tuition to go as high as loans would allow). I love it when the awesome doctors I shadow tell me they paid $800 cash for a full year's med school tuition (without scholarships or aid) back in the 1960s. The world didn't end then.

And yup, I definitely heard a number under 2 million at my interview.

Weren't many of us upset when we found out that CA schools don't take many OOS? I'm just glad Michigan is accepting many OOS students and gave me a chance. I'm pretty sure if we get accepted at CA schools we wouldn't be getting much, if any, financial help.

 

[medat101]

I hear Michigan has jumped to #6 on the Us News ranking for 2011. I understand that you can put only so much faith into Us News rankings (and that these rankings have numerous flaws), but Michigan must still feel pretty good about it. For the record, I sorta kinda regret withdrawing from it post-interview ;P.

What is your source?

 

[ClarKent]

Hey the 2011 rankings have leaked all over the internet, but I don't want to get Usnews angry and post it on SDN. So just google it, or wait until 12 tonight when they will be officially released. I certainly will be checking them again at 12 just in case the leaks misled me.

 

[ClarKent]

Wow... if that's true, that's an insane jump. 😱 Rankings aren't everything, but that big of a jump is certainly notable. It does seem like their research funding in general has been rising quickly in the past few years.

Yeah I was surprised. What happened to Umich was amazing, but what happened to baylor on the other hand....

 

[bobsmith]

Well if the jump from 11-->6 is true, I imagine we'll be seeing a lot of twitter posts/emails from Michigan telling us all about it in the coming days

 

[JasonE]

hmmm if this #6 ranking is true, ApoK may have to rethink his views on relative prestige.

anyways that would be stupid. if a school can jump that much in one year, that just shows how easy these things can be manipulated/mean so little. i dont think any of the schools they jumped were better to start with or are any "worse" now.

 

[bobsmith]

yeah, it's true. i think small stuff like a simple tweak in methodology or a big incoming grant can sway things pretty drastically (even though this likely has no bearing whatsoever on the level of education you'll receive)

but US news obviously knows this. how else can you expect to sell magazines/get people talking if the rankings stayed the exact same every single year?

 

[JasonE]

but US news obviously knows this. how else can you expect to sell magazines/get people talking if the rankings stayed the exact same every single year?

great point. never thought of that. so obvious.....

 

[ApoK]

From the UM twitter (and in response to SDNers I'm sure..), "Finite resources=choices we make: interviews, offers, schlrships, revisits are absolutely prioritzed in allocation as we build next class.
about 2 hours ago via Echofon"

This is exactly what I wanted to hear. It's an admission that they do prioritize post-acceptance with regard to revisit, and I appreciate their transparency. I thought it was a bit disingenious before to leave students to think there was a "server glitch" that resulted in some people unable to attend. Seemed like BS to me the whole time. Kudos to UM for acknowledging their practices. And for the record... yes, every school deals with finite resources. Michigan just seems to be the only school that has them with regard to revisit .

No offense medat101 but I was wondering what is the utility in this activity? Doesn't it just cause more drama on the thread. In either case I don't have a priority status but I think I got an invite the first day.

The point is we're not trying to cover for Michigan and point out their relative awesomeness. Medat101 at least was fair and posted true, unbiased statements. Unfortunately, the same could not be said for you. You don't have any credibility because you seem to be willing to defend UM to the death. lol, the Michigan Adcom can probably figure out who you are based on your mdapplicants (it's not anonymized very well). Are you trying to be a UM crusader in the hopes of getting a second round scholarship? Seems pretty lame, if that's the case.

hmmm if this #6 ranking is true, ApoK may have to rethink his views on relative prestige.

anyways that would be stupid. if a school can jump that much in one year, that just shows how easy these things can be manipulated/mean so little. i dont think any of the schools they jumped were better to start with or are any "worse" now.

lol, JasonE! I never, ever said I rely on USNEWS as a basis for relative prestige. I generally base it off of word of mouth. i.e. HMS, JHU, Penn, Duke and UCSF are all serious, almost unrivaled places for a medical education. The distinctions within the top 20 are marginal. However, I believe there is a difference between the top 4-5 from the other 15-16.

Also, this is the supposed 2011 list.

Medical top 10
1. Harvard
2. Penn
3. JHU
4. UCSF
4. WUSTL
6. Duke
6. Michigan
6. Washington
6. Yale
10. Columbia
11 - Stanford
11 - UCLA
13 - Chicago
14 - Pittsburgh
15 - Vanderbilt
16 - Cornell
16 - UCSD
18 - Mount Sinai
18 - Northwestern
20 - Case Western
20 - Emory
20 - UNC Chapel Hill
20 - UTexas Southwestern Medical Center
24 - Baylor
25 - Virginia

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=112521&start=225

Notice how Stanford isn't there? That would be unbelievable if they fell out of the top 10. For the record, there were like 4-5 schools tied at 6 last year and there was like a 1-2 ranking point difference between schools at #6 and #11 (UCLA and UM) in 2010. It's not that big of a "jump" if you look at the point increases. I'm still skeptical that this is the true list, but it would definitely validate JasonE's argument that USNEWS is worthless.

Edit: lol, now that was a somewhat inflammatory post.

 

[JasonE]

ok guys, before this turns into an all out war, lets just end it.

 

[BubbaChuck3]

So it is official guys. That list that was posted was correct. You can go to USNEWS and check them out for yourself.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings...schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings

 

[medat101]

the rankings provided are real.. i guess us news decided to release them early

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings...schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings

 

[masturhu]

I keep checking this thread since I'm enjoying the debate

Just my two cents. Umich has had the best environment of all the schools I've interviewed at. I just wish they had really nice recreation area like Harvard or Hopkins. The added "bump" in rankings, just solidified my high view of Umich.

I too wish I got some merit aid, but I'm not that worried about it :/. Also kinda bummed I didn't get a revisit spot but that was my fault for trying to sign up four days after the email was sent.

Finally, where do you guys think is the best place to live. I like that Phi Chi place. Pretty reasonable price, but the location isn't prime.

 

[masturhu]

Also, I am wondering if the $63 million cancer grant was included in this years rankings. If it was, then that would explain some of the uptrend in rankings. If it's not, then Umich will probably be up there again next year.

 

[JasonE]

I keep checking this thread since I'm enjoying the debate

Just my two cents. Umich has had the best environment of all the schools I've interviewed at. I just wish they had really nice recreation area like Harvard or Hopkins. The added "bump" in rankings, just solidified my high view of Umich.

I too wish I got some merit aid, but I'm not that worried about it :/. Also kinda bummed I didn't get a revisit spot but that was my fault for trying to sign up four days after the email was sent.

Finally, where do you guys think is the best place to live. I like that Phi Chi place. Pretty reasonable price, but the location isn't prime.

hopkins recreation area?

 

[medat101]

I keep checking this thread since I'm enjoying the debate

Just my two cents. Umich has had the best environment of all the schools I've interviewed at. I just wish they had really nice recreation area like Harvard or Hopkins. The added "bump" in rankings, just solidified my high view of Umich.

I too wish I got some merit aid, but I'm not that worried about it :/. Also kinda bummed I didn't get a revisit spot but that was my fault for trying to sign up four days after the email was sent.

Finally, where do you guys is the best place to live. I like that Phi Chi place. Pretty reasonable price, but the location isn't prime.

I looked into a bunch of places, but my priority is location over cost ("expensive" at ann arbor is still really cheap compared to what I currently pay). So, I'm planning on living at the Tower Plaza condominiums primarily because of its central location (easy walk to school, downtown, kerrytown, etc.). http://www.towerplaza.net/

 

[masturhu]

hopkins recreation area?

Yea that really nice building that just built. It has all the four houses located in it. I don't remember what it's called though. Lol JasonE, you are the ultimate Hopkins hater.

I'm just curious, do you like umich???

 

[BubbaChuck3]

I looked into a bunch of places, but my priority is location over cost ("expensive" at ann arbor is still really cheap compared to what I currently pay). So, I'm planning on living at the Tower Plaza condominiums primarily because of its central location (easy walk to school, downtown, kerrytown, etc.). http://www.towerplaza.net/

So you are buying instead of renting?

 

[BubbaChuck3]

Total admissions data 5134 applied, 695 interviewed, 430 were accepted, 170 enrolled
In-state admissions data 1009 applied, 179 interviewed, 110 were accepted, 81 enrolled
Out-of-state admissions data 4125 applied, 516 interviewed, 320 were accepted, 89 enrolled
Women's admissions data 2331 applied, 318 interviewed, 222 were accepted, 80 enrolled


That is for everyone on the waitlist. This is information for the Class of 2013. It looks as though there should be some waitlist movement this year if these data hold up. They accepted 350 people so far.