2012-2013 University of Michigan Application Thread

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Is anyone else waiting in silence for forever now? I've been complete since late July and my status page hasn't changed from "file complete-under review" since then. 🙁

36, cGPA 3.94, sGPA 3.92, clinical research & volunteering, IS, UM undergrad
 
0129 said:
Is anyone else waiting in silence for forever now? I've been complete since late July and my status page hasn't changed from "file complete-under review" since then. 🙁

36, cGPA 3.94, sGPA 3.92, clinical research & volunteering, IS, UM undergrad
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same feeling/situation here, lost hope quite a while ago🙁
 
Look at the bright side, Michigan has seemed to stop sending emails about chat invites.

(another Lost Hope Applicant)
 
Just got the acceptance email a little while ago! So shocked and still can't believe this!
 
Does anyone have any recommendation/s as to where to stay around the area? I found that there are only 2 hotels, walking distance from the school, but they're quite pricey. Those that are miles away do not offer shuttle service except for the ones near the airport.

Thanks
 
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Izzyi said:
Does anyone have any recommendation/s as to where to stay around the area? I found that there are only 2 hotels, walking distance from the school, but they're quite pricey. Those that are miles away do not offer shuttle service except for the ones near the airport.

Thanks
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Stay at a hotel on an AATA bus route. Around Briarwood Mall is a good bet. As for getting to Ann Arbor from DTW, you should probably try the Michigan Flyer, which will take you to Briarwood. If you prefer to stay somewhere other than Briarwood, just take the flyer to central campus and utilize UM buses/AATA to get to your hotel of choice. Hope that helps.
 
The more I look at the #s coming out from this school, the more I think it would have been better to interview later. They have accepted as many, if not more, students from interview groups later than mine, and waitlisted fewer. I can't help thinking I would have had a better shot competing against people to whom they offered interviews at a later date.
 
wanderedtoolong said:
The more I look at the #s coming out from this school, the more I think it would have been better to interview later. They have accepted as many, if not more, students from interview groups later than mine, and waitlisted fewer. I can't help thinking I would have had a better shot competing against people to whom they offered interviews at a later date.
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Really? I haven't been tracking it very closely, but the accept rate from my interview date in late Sept was nearly 70 percent. Post-interview odds don't get much better than that.
 
wanderedtoolong said:
The more I look at the #s coming out from this school, the more I think it would have been better to interview later. They have accepted as many, if not more, students from interview groups later than mine, and waitlisted fewer. I can't help thinking I would have had a better shot competing against people to whom they offered interviews at a later date.
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Interesting idea. I just made a graph of the data. (I got the numbers from the Twitter.)

Looks like there are no real trends from October to January. So I'd say it's a valid point that it's better to interview later, and be compared against people who didn't get interview offers until later.
 
somethingdeep said:
Interesting idea. I just made a graph of the data. (I got the numbers from the Twitter.)

Looks like there are no real trends from October to January. So I'd say it's a valid point that it's better to interview later, and be compared against people who didn't get interview offers until later.
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Thanks for doing that! I feel like I was in the worst decision group (11/4) - so many waitlists compared to accepted/deferred- also, if we graphed the accepted applicant avg and lowest gpa, I think we'd see a downward trend over time.
 
wanderedtoolong said:
Thanks for doing that! I feel like I was in the worst decision group (11/4) - so many waitlists compared to accepted/deferred- also, if we graphed the accepted applicant avg and lowest gpa, I think we'd see a downward trend over time.
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No problem, I love statistics haha.

And I would predict the same thing with the GPA/MCAT of admitted students.
 
wanderedtoolong said:
Thanks for doing that! I feel like I was in the worst decision group (11/4) - so many waitlists compared to accepted/deferred- also, if we graphed the accepted applicant avg and lowest gpa, I think we'd see a downward trend over time.
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Wouldn't a GPA/MCAT vs Time graph have a downward trend for most every medical school? They're going to try to interview the most qualified first. Also, don't forget about applicants who submit late but still have really strong stats.

It would be interesting to compare probability of acceptance based on GPA/MCAT vs Time. Maybe an applicant with a lower GPA/MCAT who interviewed at the first date had only a 5% chance of being accepted but a 20% chance in the most recent interviews. If that's the case, I can definitely see why you would feel it would have been advantageous to interview later.
 
pachewisc said:
Wouldn't a GPA/MCAT vs Time graph have a downward trend for most every medical school? They're going to try to interview the most qualified first.
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Yes, but here it is interesting because Michigan apparently accepts the same fraction from each interview group. If the candidates are less strong as the season progresses, you'd expect the acceptance rates per interview group to decline.
 
somethingdeep said:
Yes, but here it is interesting because Michigan apparently accepts the same fraction from each interview group. If the candidates are less strong as the season progresses, you'd expect the acceptance rates per interview group to decline.
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that's somethingdeep!
 
somethingdeep said:
Yes, but here it is interesting because Michigan apparently accepts the same fraction from each interview group. If the candidates are less strong as the season progresses, you'd expect the acceptance rates per interview group to decline.
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Yep, that't what I was getting at with the second half of my post. Since acceptance rates don't decline yet, presumably, "quality" of applicants does, then you're statistically advantaged to interview later.

Assuming applicants get less strong over time. An "average" interviewee from the first session would look "great" at the last session. If an "average" interviewee at each interview session always has a 50% chance of being accepted, and a "great" interviewee at each session has a 85% chance, it'd be better to go later to make yourself look more desirable within the current interview pool (since all interview pools have similar acceptance percentages).
 
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are they still handing out interviews? the stats online haven't been updated since 12/14??
 
pachewisc said:
Yep, that't what I was getting at with the second half of my post. Since acceptance rates don't decline yet, presumably, "quality" of applicants does, then you're statistically advantaged to interview later.

Assuming applicants get less strong over time. An "average" interviewee from the first session would look "great" at the last session. If an "average" interviewee at each interview session always has a 50% chance of being accepted, and a "great" interviewee at each session has a 85% chance, it'd be better to go later to make yourself look more desirable within the current interview pool (since all interview pools have similar acceptance percentages).
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A baseless assumption, especially for this school that clearly goes through applications as they are received/complete according to the applicant tracker and that sets aside a certain number of interviews/acceptances for instate applicants.
 
tr6 said:
a baseless assumption, especially for this school that clearly goes through applications as they are received/complete according to the applicant tracker and that sets aside a certain number of interviews/acceptances for instate applicants.
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+1
 
TR6 said:
A baseless assumption, especially for this school that clearly goes through applications as they are received/complete according to the applicant tracker and that sets aside a certain number of interviews/acceptances for instate applicants.
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Not baseless at all. People that were complete in July/August have been receiving IIs throughout the entire cycle. If two people are complete at the same time but one person receives an II 3 months later, that means the committee didn't feel they were a strong enough applicant in July, but in November, based on the current pool, they are strong enough. Yeah, obviously someone who completes in October with 3.9/40 can't get an early interview, but it's baseless to claim that the later interviews are ONLY going to late applicants. The tracker, if you've been following it, has been showing increases in all dates over time, not just the last months, proving that July/August submissions are also getting later interviews after not initially receiving one.
 
1-2-3 tuesday.. does anybody know what interview dates they were offering in the last batch of IIs.. or did anybody get one today??
 
II invite today! Only date given was 2/15
 
Thanks! And sure - I'm OOS, 3.4 (lower I know, but in tough double major at top school), 33T, pretty strong research/volunteering/clinical experiences, complete early Oct.
 
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Not baseless at all. People that were complete in July/August have been receiving IIs throughout the entire cycle. If two people are complete at the same time but one person receives an II 3 months later, that means the committee didn't feel they were a strong enough applicant in July, but in November, based on the current pool, they are strong enough. Yeah, obviously someone who completes in October with 3.9/40 can't get an early interview, but it's baseless to claim that the later interviews are ONLY going to late applicants. The tracker, if you've been following it, has been showing increases in all dates over time, not just the last months, proving that July/August submissions are also getting later interviews after not initially receiving one.
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Current M1 here. I doubt that this true. I know someone who waited a few months for an interview invitation, interviewed on the very last day, and ended up with one of the first-round full-tuition merit scholarships. There's simply no way that he went from being "barely acceptable" to a top pick based on the interview alone. His overall application had to have been very strong, and even so, he waited quite awhile for an interview.

Bottom line - if you get an interview, it means the committee is excited about your application, and I doubt there's much difference between the "competition" for acceptance across the interview days. The admissions office here is a well-oiled machine and they know how to pace the process.
 
Can a Michigan student comment on the grading system? I know it is pass/fail but I was wondering if it still had a ranking system? My state school has a pass/fail but it also ranks you according to quartile.
 
Michigan does not rank during the first two years. Pass/Fail means exactly that.

Also, Fawn Leibowitz's remark above is legit.
 
On the path to UM graphic they provide, 'under review' seems to mean that they haven't even looked at your file yet. Is this true? Does your status change to indicate if you've been screened prior to receiving an interview invite?
 
sk15731 said:
On the path to UM graphic they provide, 'under review' seems to mean that they haven't even looked at your file yet. Is this true? Does your status change to indicate if you've been screened prior to receiving an interview invite?
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can you link this graphic please?
 
LOL. SDN just got called out for overthinking by the director of admissions on twitter:

"SDN: Plotting acceptance rates by date is (perhaps) interesting but entirely useless in making any assumptions re😳ur process. #overthinking"

https://twitter.com/UMichMedAdmiss
 
Last interview is next Friday Feb 15th.
All interview slots have been filled (per Sandra)
 
From UMMS Twitter:

"AEC Meeting: Noticed many "inconsistencies" in a candidates activity listing-we'll call all of candidates contacts to verify accuracy"

wow. sad to see this happening in this day and age 😱
 
wangers5270 said:
From UMMS Twitter:

"AEC Meeting: Noticed many "inconsistencies" in a candidates activity listing-we'll call all of candidates contacts to verify accuracy"

wow. sad to see this happening in this day and age 😱
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Yeah, that was interesting. Makes you wonder about the rate at which people are able to get away with this stuff. With 40k+ people per year I'm sure some manage it.

So what happens in cases like this? Michigan contacts AMCAS which contacts all schools to which that applicant applied?
 
mcloaf said:
Yeah, that was interesting. Makes you wonder about the rate at which people are able to get away with this stuff. With 40k+ people per year I'm sure some manage it.

So what happens in cases like this? Michigan contacts AMCAS which contacts all schools to which that applicant applied?
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One would assume that would be the necessary course of action to take. They also tweeted about looking up publications on PubMed to verify them. Maybe said applicant made up a publication he/she didn't actually have, which would be a pretty naive move since everything is online... :smack:
 
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