2014-2015 Western Michigan University Application Thread

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Recently completed my on-site interview and, WOW, this school is amazing. From the start, WMed was in my top 3. Now it's tied for #1.

Can't wait to hear back! I'm seriously in love with this school!

Some minor details about interview day for anyone else who's wondering: the group was relatively small (<2 dozen), interviews were all comfortable and relaxed, MMIs were fun, tours with current students were informative, lunch is legit, and it's a jam-packed day that flew by.
 
Also, why do you guys think this will be a good med school? I'm just looking for some reasons. I'm interested in this school because it's close to home and I love Kalamazoo but am very skeptical on whether it will provide me with a good opportunity to become a competent doctor.

Off the top of my head...

Small class sizes
Tons of competent, experienced, and passionate faculty invested in your success
Lots of available resources for help
Well thought-out and designed curriculum
Learning atmosphere mimics practicing atmosphere (we are all team, from techs to docs!)
Well-established residency program with an open atmosphere for helping younger colleagues (med students directly commented on the helpfulness of residents)
The entire community is excited for this medical school. I was pulling out of the parking garage and the attendant and I chatted about how great of an addition this school is to the community.
Bronson and Borgess are two excellent hospitals with longstanding reputations of providing top-notch care
 
Off the top of my head...

Small class sizes
Tons of competent, experienced, and passionate faculty invested in your success
Lots of available resources for help
Well thought-out and designed curriculum
Learning atmosphere mimics practicing atmosphere (we are all team, from techs to docs!)
Well-established residency program with an open atmosphere for helping younger colleagues (med students directly commented on the helpfulness of residents)
The entire community is excited for this medical school. I was pulling out of the parking garage and the attendant and I chatted about how great of an addition this school is to the community.
Bronson and Borgess are two excellent hospitals with longstanding reputations of providing top-notch care
That's nice....those are some good reasons. I didn't realize how good their PA school is, so that is comforting. No research in the curriculum isn't a concern for you? I don't want to go into research but thought having a semester to do research would be very beneficial.
 
That's nice....those are some good reasons. I didn't realize how good their PA school is, so that is comforting. No research in the curriculum isn't a concern for you? I don't want to go into research but thought having a semester to do research would be very beneficial.

To be honest, I didn't probe too much about research. I recall the dean saying something, but I wasn't particularly interested at that point.

Overall, the structure the first few years looks great. At the end of each block, there's at least a 1 week break. There's a lot of flexible vacation/elective time built in, which means students can take advantage of a multitude of programs (including international medicine trips).

Additionally, the daily structure seemed to be 8-2, lunch from 12-1, 4 days a week. Coming from a full time job, that seems quite a bit of spare time to study and pursue other opportunities (such as research). If you're passionate about research, I'm sure it can be worked out. But, it's not a requirement that's built in.
 
That's nice....those are some good reasons. I didn't realize how good their PA school is, so that is comforting. No research in the curriculum isn't a concern for you? I don't want to go into research but thought having a semester to do research would be very beneficial.

The only downside I saw with my day was when someone asked about medical student research opportunities, the Dean and the admissions director shared a brief look, assured that many research opportunities exist, and then promptly changed the subject. It sounds like they will definitely have a significant basic science research program in the future, but I am not so sure about the present. However, it did sound like students have the opportunity to pursue clinical research during their time at WMED.
 
The only downside I saw with my day was when someone asked about medical student research opportunities, the Dean and the admissions director shared a brief look, assured that many research opportunities exist, and then promptly changed the subject. It sounds like they will definitely have a significant basic science research program in the future, but I am not so sure about the present. However, it did sound like students have the opportunity to pursue clinical research during their time at WMED.
I feel like you were at my interview day haha
 
Getting ready for my onsite soon! Just wanted to check...for those of you who were offered interviews, did you get an itinerary or anything sent beforehand? I scheduled the onsite over a month ago but I've only received confirmation of my date and time, but not the location of where to check in.
 
Getting ready for my onsite soon! Just wanted to check...for those of you who were offered interviews, did you get an itinerary or anything sent beforehand? I scheduled the onsite over a month ago but I've only received confirmation of my date and time, but not the location of where to check in.

You should get an email with more details about a week before your interview date.
 
The only downside I saw with my day was when someone asked about medical student research opportunities, the Dean and the admissions director shared a brief look, assured that many research opportunities exist, and then promptly changed the subject. It sounds like they will definitely have a significant basic science research program in the future, but I am not so sure about the present. However, it did sound like students have the opportunity to pursue clinical research during their time at WMED.

re: research, we do have opportunities. Clinical research and community-based research are built into the curriculum. However, we are in process of hiring faculty whose primary work is to do bench research. So if you're coming in hoping for bench research in your first year, you won't find as many opportunities here (not none, but fewer) until your 2nd or 3rd year. That said.... trust me when I say (as a first year student) that you won't have time for bench research anyway in your first year! 😛

So in other words, your assessment is precisely correct.
 
Getting ready for my onsite soon! Just wanted to check...for those of you who were offered interviews, did you get an itinerary or anything sent beforehand? I scheduled the onsite over a month ago but I've only received confirmation of my date and time, but not the location of where to check in.

I think you'll receive an email shortly beforehand - but for check in, I believe you just come straight to the school (interviews are on-site) at 300 Portage in Kalamazoo. There are always signs posted in the building, telling you where to go. Good luck!
 
does anyone know for a fact how many students they plan on accepting in total?
 
does anyone know for a fact how many students they plan on accepting in total?

They plan to have 60 students in the next class, so there will be more than 60 acceptances. No word on how many, but 1.5-2x class size seems appropriate.
 
I think you'll receive an email shortly beforehand - but for check in, I believe you just come straight to the school (interviews are on-site) at 300 Portage in Kalamazoo. There are always signs posted in the building, telling you where to go. Good luck!
Thank you! I actually just got my confirmation email this morning (whew).
 
Does anyone actually get rejected post-interview at WMed? Seems like they waitlist just about everyone that they do not accept.
 
Does anyone actually get rejected post-interview at WMed? Seems like they waitlist just about everyone that they do not accept.
I was actually thinking thesame thing. No one has posted about being rejected so far. I guess they accept the ones they want and then let the rest of us just kinda float around until they fill the class and then everyone else gets a rejection.
 
They do actually reject some. I've seen a couple of folks post on here already. I'm imagining a lot fewer people post their rejections.
 
How do you send thank you notes to MMI interviewers? I don't even remember their names since it was so faced-past.. Do I write a general one and send it to the admission director and tell her to pass it on?
 
How do you send thank you notes to MMI interviewers? I don't even remember their names since it was so faced-past.. Do I write a general one and send it to the admission director and tell her to pass it on?
Yes, I wrote a general thank you and sent it to Jean, the admissions director. That's what they expect for the thank you
 
Yes, I wrote a general thank you and sent it to Jean, the admissions director. That's what they expect for the thank you

It's certainly probably a lot more manageable! 🙂

I would think sending 8 thank you notes would put you in the "annoying" category! (I don't know, I'm not on the admissions committee... just a current student).
 
Interviewing tomorrow - super excited! Is there any chance for hearing back before Christmas?
 
Interviewing tomorrow - super excited! Is there any chance for hearing back before Christmas?

I don't know when the adcom meets, but remember:

At every adcom meeting, they evaluate EVERYBODY who has interviewed and hasn't been rejected. This means everybody who just interviewed, plus those waitlisted.

If if you get in - awesome! If you get waitlisted - still awesome! It means they want you! (They just accept in small batches so they don't overfill the class)

So while a waitlist doesn't guarentee admission, it does mean that you've got a really, really good shot at getting a seat.
 
I don't know when the adcom meets, but remember:

At every adcom meeting, they evaluate EVERYBODY who has interviewed and hasn't been rejected. This means everybody who just interviewed, plus those waitlisted.

If if you get in - awesome! If you get waitlisted - still awesome! It means they want you! (They just accept in small batches so they don't overfill the class)

So while a waitlist doesn't guarentee admission, it does mean that you've got a really, really good shot at getting a seat.
Gosh I hope so. Wait listed in November and I loved it. Will be sending in an update with (hopefully outstanding) fall semester grades, so maybe that will nudge the adcom in the right direction!
 
Recently received an acceptance from Western Michigan. I'm so happy and grateful!
I have received a few other acceptances and am currently trying to decide which program would be the best fit for me. The letter to secure a seat at W. Michigan is non-binding. Is that correct?
Congrats to everyone received acceptances!
 
Recently received an acceptance from Western Michigan. I'm so happy and grateful!
I have received a few other acceptances and am currently trying to decide which program would be the best fit for me. The letter to secure a seat at W. Michigan is non-binding. Is that correct?
Congrats to everyone received acceptances!

Congrats! When did you interview?
 
Recently received an acceptance from Western Michigan. I'm so happy and grateful!
I have received a few other acceptances and am currently trying to decide which program would be the best fit for me. The letter to secure a seat at W. Michigan is non-binding. Is that correct?
Congrats to everyone received acceptances!

I believe it is non-binding until May. In May, the AAMC requires that you hold only one acceptance.

If you have any questions you think a current student might be able to answer, feel free to ask (either here or in a one-on-one message).

Congrats!
 
Waitlisted a week ago, accepted today! (I sent in an update after the wait list)
My letter also said I qualified for a merit-based scholarship...does anyone know/have more info about those?

I feel like I remember those going out last year around the deadline to commit to a school. I don't know if that's how it will happen this year though. I'd say if you really want more info, call and ask if you can chat with the director of financial aid (her name is Deirdre). She would probably have some perspective / better info than anybody on here.
 
Waitlisted a week ago, accepted today! (I sent in an update after the wait list)
My letter also said I qualified for a merit-based scholarship...does anyone know/have more info about those?

Three days after I received my acceptance e-mail and returned the enrollment commitment form, I received the scholarship award letter. You have to accept or decline the award.
 
Waitlisted a week ago, accepted today! (I sent in an update after the wait list)
My letter also said I qualified for a merit-based scholarship...does anyone know/have more info about those?
Congrats! are you OOS or IS? Just curious. Also with the waitlist, does it commonly have a lot of movement? I interview in january and WMich is one of my top choices!

Congrats on the Merit scholarship as well!
 
Accepted. Interviewed 11/17. Really excited!
Do you remember if the phone interviewer had any information about you? The email says its "an independent contractor who has no access to the rest of your application" so I am assuming they know nothing about you other than your name/contact info. Also, any kinds of heads up on the type of questions asked during the phone interview would be greatly appreciated!!!
 
Congrats! are you OOS or IS? Just curious. Also with the waitlist, does it commonly have a lot of movement? I interview in january and WMich is one of my top choices!

Congrats on the Merit scholarship as well!

"Waitlist" is a little bit of a misnomer.

At each Adcom meeting, there is some # of applicants that get accepted.

Following your interview, your file is added to the pool of applicants considered by the adcom. One of 3 things can happen. You can either be rejected (unfortunately, this does happen), you can be accepted, or you can be waitlisted.

Unlike most schools, "wailist" does not mean they are no longer looking at your file. At WMed, the adcom will review every file not rejected at every meeting. So let's say you interview in January. You get waitlisted because the adcom extended an offer of acceptance to these other 10 (or however many) people. In February your file is still in the mix. Let's say the adcom accepts 9 people that interviewed in February, and then they see your file sitting on the top of the list from people who have already interviewed and decide that you're the strongest candidate to accept this month. You'll be acceptance number 10. (arbitrary numbers here)

So all of that to say - the waitlist is constantly moving because it is not a "waitlist" in the sense that you're used to thinking of it. We're not writing you off until we run out of other interviewees. "Waitlist" at WMed means they want you, they reconsider you at every single adcom meeting and weigh you against every single applicant not rejected. At every meeting, they pick some number of people to accept. So really, in a way, everybody is on the "waitlist" (in that you're all equally considered by the adcom) until the adcom accepts you (hopefully!)

It might be better to think of it not as a "waitlist" but as a "qualified for acceptance" list. If you're not rejected, they want you and you're qualified for acceptance. It just may be that each month, someone is more qualified. That said, a number of people accepted for 2014-2015 spent some time "on the waitlist." SO if last year is any indication, being "on the waitlist" is generally a good thing.

Does that make sense?
 
Do you remember if the phone interviewer had any information about you? The email says its "an independent contractor who has no access to the rest of your application" so I am assuming they know nothing about you other than your name/contact info. Also, any kinds of heads up on the type of questions asked during the phone interview would be greatly appreciated!!!

Take a quick read through the previous replies, there's been a lot said about the phone interviews. You'll get more perspectives by checking those out!
 
"Waitlist" is a little bit of a misnomer.

At each Adcom meeting, there is some # of applicants that get accepted.

Following your interview, your file is added to the pool of applicants considered by the adcom. One of 3 things can happen. You can either be rejected (unfortunately, this does happen), you can be accepted, or you can be waitlisted.

Unlike most schools, "wailist" does not mean they are no longer looking at your file. At WMed, the adcom will review every file not rejected at every meeting. So let's say you interview in January. You get waitlisted because the adcom extended an offer of acceptance to these other 10 (or however many) people. In February your file is still in the mix. Let's say the adcom accepts 9 people that interviewed in February, and then they see your file sitting on the top of the list from people who have already interviewed and decide that you're the strongest candidate to accept this month. You'll be acceptance number 10. (arbitrary numbers here)

So all of that to say - the waitlist is constantly moving because it is not a "waitlist" in the sense that you're used to thinking of it. We're not writing you off until we run out of other interviewees. "Waitlist" at WMed means they want you, they reconsider you at every single adcom meeting and weigh you against every single applicant not rejected. At every meeting, they pick some number of people to accept. So really, in a way, everybody is on the "waitlist" (in that you're all equally considered by the adcom) until the adcom accepts you (hopefully!)

It might be better to think of it not as a "waitlist" but as a "qualified for acceptance" list. If you're not rejected, they want you and you're qualified for acceptance. It just may be that each month, someone is more qualified. That said, a number of people accepted for 2014-2015 spent some time "on the waitlist." SO if last year is any indication, being "on the waitlist" is generally a good thing.

Does that make sense?
That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the explanation! That makes me feel much better about my interview next month!
 
Congrats! are you OOS or IS? Just curious. Also with the waitlist, does it commonly have a lot of movement? I interview in january and WMich is one of my top choices!

Congrats on the Merit scholarship as well!
OOS, I'm from a big state so I applied broadly haha. I think there's a lot of wait list movement! Good luck next month!! 😀
 
Three days after I received my acceptance e-mail and returned the enrollment commitment form, I received the scholarship award letter. You have to accept or decline the award.
Thanks! My letter said I would receive info about it in the coming week. Accepting the offer is not binding right?
 
Waitlisted a week ago, accepted today! (I sent in an update after the wait list)
My letter also said I qualified for a merit-based scholarship...does anyone know/have more info about those?

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of update did you send? Letter or email? I got waitlisted about a week ago, and I'm thinking of sending this semester's grades along with a few other update things.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of update did you send? Letter or email? I got waitlisted about a week ago, and I'm thinking of sending this semester's grades along with a few other update things.
Sure, I sent an email with just an update/loi since interviewing. I had started a volunteer position in May which I never talked about in my app since it was too early as well as intensive shadowing over the summer! 🙂 I think grades would be great too!
 
Sure, I sent an email with just an update/loi since interviewing. I had started a volunteer position in May which I never talked about in my app since it was too early as well as intensive shadowing over the summer! 🙂 I think grades would be great too!
Letter of interest btw not intent. Just correlated the stuff WMed offers with my experience in the above 🙂
 
Where does it show up on the portal that you are accepted, waitlisted, or rejected? Is it a new line item in the chart, or does it display at the top of the screen?
 
i wonder how big are the scholarships? i just got an II but i have already accepted by other schools. the amount of the award would be a significant factor to consider
 
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