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Can you please post the link to the facebook group? I did not realize it was up already.
Ta da!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/662506340526568/
Can you please post the link to the facebook group? I did not realize it was up already.
my telephone interview was early december and i got II in late december
Wow, I am surprised (and a little jealous) you were able to interview so fast! I got my II in early December and the first date to interview was January 30th. I will be flying out in a couple of days if the great northeast's snowmaggedon lets me. I foolishly made one wish that there be no major storm in Kalamazoo when I needed to interview. I neglected to wish that no storm hit my home airport as well . . .
Good luck to all who interviewed here. And thank you to @Captain Toad and @tellme_areyoufree for giving all of their insights and advice from a student perspective. Hearing from you has made me very excited about the medical school and the possibility that I might be able to attend.
Whats an average day like at WMU? Would you say team based learning is enjoyable/the best way to get the material?
Thanks for taking the time to write this. It was extremely helpful. Would you say you have a lot of support when it comes to creating a research or community service project? How did you end up in that local non-profit? Is that protected time specifically for that kind of work?I would say there isn't an average day!
To give you an idea though, here's this week:
Monday morning I have a clinical experience, Monday afternoon 2 lectures (we're in our immunology block right now).
Tuesday morning I have a TBL and a clinical lecture. This means we'll be presented a case (the TBL), work through it step by step, and then afterwards we'll receive a lectue from a clinician who wrote the TBL (these are frequently based on real patients they've seen - or perhaps even "almost always"). Tuesday afternoon I'll have two "Clinical skills" sessions. One on delivering difficult news to patients (we practice with paid actors), and one on doing neurological exams.
Wednesday morning I have 4 hours of protected time to go out and do work with a local non-profit I chose to work with. I'll be helping them build up a public health service and designing a research project based around patient access to medications for preventive care. Wednesday afternoon, lectures.
Thursday morning, 2 lectures. Thursday afternoon, Anatomy lab.
Friday morning, another TBL and clinical lecture, followed by an exam that covers the week. This week is unique because we have also been invited to attend a summit on lung cancer, so many of us will be doing that in the afternoon as well. Typically we go out and celebrate the end of the week after finishing the exam... but that can wait until 5 this week (I'm excited about the lung cancer thing).
Throughout the week we also have "independent learning" events due (I have 2 tonight) which cover some aspect of the week's topics (this week is virology) in greater detail. So tonight I'm reading up on antiretroviral medications and such. (I'm really lucky because I used to work in an HIV clinic, so I will barely spend any time at all on tonight's independent learning... way better than sitting through a lecture on something I already have a strong grasp of).
... so no two days are really alike. It's really a big mix of hands-on stuff, lecture, and independent learning. Does that make sense?
Thanks for taking the time to write this. It was extremely helpful. Would you say you have a lot of support when it comes to creating a research or community service project? How did you end up in that local non-profit? Is that protected time specifically for that kind of work?
weather's fine right now, if it keeps this up then this will be a pretty good michigan winterHow's the weather for next month? Not recommended to get a rental car?
Questions for current students:
I have an interview coming up at Western Michigan. I love everything I have read about the school and I really like that it is smaller. My only reservation is the mandatory attendance - at the start of classes I would have two very young children and having a lot of required activities makes me nervous because my time will already be more limited outside of class and I really want to have time to study independently, as I think I often learn most effectively that way.
So more specific questions relating to that:
1. What is your weekly schedule like? Someone in an earlier post mentioned 8-2 four days a week (not sure about the fifth day...) but then another current student gave an example schedule that sounded like most every morning/afternoon is occupied... Also, do you get breaks to study within the day?
2. How much studying do you feel you need to do outside of class? I don't know if the mandatory classes do a really good job covering material or if its expected (as it was in my undergrad school) that for every hour of class you study 2-3 hours outside of class or something like that....
3. Are there any current students with families? Do they seem happy with the set-up and able to balance family and school...?
Anyway, sorry for all the questions. I know I will be able to ask these questions at my interview but am trying to get a feel for how this might work as I just realized attendance is mandatory and had a bit of a freak out...
1) No two days are alike, and things change from week to week. However, the schedule is pretty packed. Some days have breaks in the middle, some don't (ignoring an hour for lunch, which is a minimum for every day).
2) This also really depends. Most days I close my laptop around 9pm. If it's right before an exam, obviously that's different. If there's something I don't understand, obviously that means I have to spend more time with it. I have never spent 2-3 hours on an hour of material in my life, and definitely don't with med school. For 3 lectures + 2 independent learnings, that would mean 15 hours of study outside of a full day at the school. At least you'll still get 1 hour of sleep!
🙂 Of course that's not how it is 🙂
You will learn to study more efficiently. And if you struggle with that, the upperclassmen (and women) will help you. The challenge in medical school is not the difficulty of (most) of the material, but the volume and speed with which you need to learn it. The curriculum at WMed is designed to stretch some of that material out a little, reinforce it in clinical experience, and build upon it through multiple passes (e.g. learning about polycystic kidney disease in our genetics block, and then seeing patients with kidney dysfunction, and then *really* learning about the kidneys in our renal block and revisiting what you've learned before).
3) I'm married and am lucky to have a spouse who is very understanding. We have a few students with small children (they're adorable, they're kind of like our unofficial mascots... probably wouldn't be happy if I said that to their parents though). About 20% of the class is married (which is high for a med school). Every medical school is time-intensive, and presents new challenges for relationships. Here's a really funny video (made by buzzfeed) which REALLY hits the nail on the head (I think).
My interview yesterday was absolutely amazing. Top choice for sure. Best of everything! I'll be counting down the days until I hear back!
out of curiosity, what was some of yoru favorite parts?
I was there on Friday as well and I was very interested in the team based learning style and the curriculum. I liked the idea of taking the Step 1 at the end of third year and was also surprisingly interested in the relative lack of a summer break between years one and two. The idea of having more breaks throughout the year to make sure you aren't falling behind seems very student friendly.
The facilities were also AMAZING (*cough cough* fire pit). There is no other way to say it. They have an incredible simulation set up and the classrooms were state of the art. I think, though, that the curriculum and class set up are more important to me and a much bigger selling point. I also appreciate their relatively fast turnaround of 3-4 weeks instead of 6-8; that doesn't sell me on the medical school, but it keeps me a little calmer while waiting.
out of curiosity, what was some of yoru favorite parts?
Take a look at the highlighted portions. I think he/she portrays WMed very accurately.Sorry for the late reply, I drove back to Chicago and flew out Saturday night and then the Superbowl, so, finally replying to this 🙂
I actually really liked the curriculum, and having such a focus on TBL mandatory attendance makes complete sense. The facilities were the best I've ever seen including other schools I've been to that are just as new. The sim center is huge and unbeatable in both size and the amount of time students get there. The faculty I met were so warm and welcoming, and the students were so happy and they were like one big family.
Because of TBL it seems like you have to get to know everyone and participate in groups and come out of your shell, which I like but maybe some people won't? The fact that they are connected to two hospital systems and have been a clinical site for MSU since the 60s makes it seem like no one is worried about quality of clinical rotations. The dean was a really cool guy and it seems like they have made a real effort to implement all the best parts of many different schools curricula which I think makes them unique. The focus on implementing new technologies makes the school seem really progressive and on top of things, and I like technology so that is a plus for me.
Also the interview was so low stress it was almost off putting, haha. It was great though, I really enjoyed the whole day.
That's basically it. If anyone has any questions I can answer about interviewing there please let me know!
I personally would be concerned about going to a school with no established hospital affiliations. That introduces a lot of uncertainty that, for me at least, would be disconcerting. At the end of the day, it's the clinical training - not the pre-clinical training - that's going to matter when you graduate in 4 years. I would do everything in my power to make sure that I go to a school that has quality facilities available to its students. That's really where the bulk of your "important" learning is going to happen.
Unless you have very compelling reasons to end up in the Chicago area, I would forgo the interview given that you've already got an acceptance at another institution.
For current students:
I was curious about the schedule... Barring the occasional guest speaker, special event, etc, how similar is the class schedule from week to week and unit to unit? How does WMed inform you of this schedule?
Additionally, WMed's site regarding the curriculum states that "Medical students will participate in an average of 26 hours of structured learning activities per week..." Given your experiences thus far, does that sound accurate?
Week to week there is a good amount of variability in the content, but not necessarily in the way time is used. For example, 1 week you might spend your monday morning in a pediatric clinic, afternoon in lecture. Tuesday morning lecture, tuesday afternoon in dissection. Wednesday morning, autopsy. Wednesday afternoon lecture. Thursday morning lecture, thursday afternoon standardized patients. Friday, TBL / exams. Once in a while a tuesday or thursday morning of lectures may be replaced by a TBL.
That general structure will stay true. What changes would be the details. So in the week above, it's clinic + autopsy. Week 2 might be monday morning geriatric clinic, wednesday morning rotation at the VA. Or whatever. An afternoon slot might get replaced with histology, or instead of seeing standardized patients you might do a skills practice (placing IV lines, or an intraosseous cannulation). Etc etc. So it changes from week to week.
There will be variations, but that's the general way it tends to flow.
No two weeks are really all that much alike.
re: 26 hours per week. I looked at my schedule for last week and it was 27, 28 if you count our exam on Friday, 29 if you count the (non-mandatory) post-exam review session. 2 weeks ago was 26, 27 if you count the exam on Friday (28 if you count non-mandatory review session). So that sounds about right.
re: our schedule, we have an online schedule (which also provides us relevant documents for the session/day/rotation/etc).
gosh! is it customary to be sent a thank you postcard for attending interview day? I've never heard of schools doing that before! Super surprised when I saw it in my mail. I'm so amazed at how thoughtful WMED is!
When I visited, I loved the WMED values, facilities, faculty, and students. I would really love to be a part of such an amazing school, nervous for decision day 🙁
i heard some people got key chains! it was either this year or last year
Can confirm keychain last year. It was a nice, thoughtful touch that I loved. It may sound like a small thing, but I actually put a lot of value in how my interactions with people went in each interview day. I got into multiple schools, but part of the reason I chose WMed was because I had incredibly positive interactions with everyone there. It was (is!) a place I want to be part of. I still have the keychain they sent me! 🙂
re: our schedule, we have an online schedule (which also provides us relevant documents for the session/day/rotation/etc).
NoNot to jinx myself, just want to be prepared in case there is good news coming soon. Is there a deposit to hold your seat?
There are a handful of people who got accepted into med schools in the top 50/60. People in my class got into top 20s too. If you have that luxury, good job.the more an more I've thought about this school and read the posts from currents students...the more I think I would like to go here.
To current students: Did a lot of you guys have a lot of acceptances from top 50 schools and chose Western over them?
Out of curiosity is it an iCal since everything else is in the Apple ecosystem?
the more an more I've thought about this school and read the posts from currents students...the more I think I would like to go here.
To current students: Did a lot of you guys have a lot of acceptances from top 50 schools and chose Western over them?
Once I got into WMed, I knew I had my choice made. I was excited about the school. Not just to attend med school, but to attend med school here. I was excited about the faculty I would work with, the positivity in the staff/community, the innovative curriculum, etc. All the reasons I've given in previous posts. It just felt like the right choice.
My phone interview was late October -haven't heard a thing since - assuming rejection? Any thoughts?
Note - the curriculum seems awesome because of its emphasis on clinical exposure
i wonder if we will get to see what the online interview and phone interview says about us. I wanna know what kind of attribute i have based on those questions haha
The first class got this info back. It was very interesting. They gave it to us during our second course, it was a nice pick-me-up during a rough course. I hope they do it for future classes, too.
i wonder if we will get to see what the online interview and phone interview says about us. I wanna know what kind of attribute i have based on those questions haha
No acceptances yet and you're even thinking about not going to this interview??? Are you insane? They invited you for a reason - they like you. Absolutely go, all it takes is one...Hi, WMU sounds like a wonderful brand-new school with enthusiastic faculty and strong clinical training. I know people have said some are admitted in every interview date, and I was phone interviewed in Sept, but then the on-site interview invitation came in Jan. GPA 3.6, MCAT 32. I feel the adcom thinks I'm a marginal applicant so then invited me very late. I'm interviewing at the end of Feb, and I feel I don't have a very good shot, plus the travel cost is $450+. This application season hasn't been going very well with rejections and no acceptance. Should I interview or not? What do you guys think? thanks.