2016-2017 University of Texas School of Medicine at San Antonio Application Thread

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Could some current medical students give some of their advice/info regarding their experience so far?
I thought I was certain of where I was going until I started reading the TAMHSC thread lol


Current MS1 here..... I pre-matched at A&M and UTHSCSA and was all set on going to A&M, but had a change of heart in December of last year.

I just read some of the discussion in the A&M thread, and if you are basing your decision solely on something posted in an anonymous internet forum- you are doing yourself a disservice. You have no idea what those posters' intentions are, and really no way to verify any of the narrative on either side.

What I am about to say really only pertains to choosing A&M vs. UTHSCSA. Most importantly, you have to understand this is my one and only experience.... so how would I truly know in the end if I would have been happier elsewhere.

Having said that, the reason I chose UTHSCSA over A&M was housing (we rent a 4 bedroom 2000 sq ft home for 1400 per month), work for my SO, and not having to pack up and move at any point. Also in regards to housing, we could have done anything from a 2500 sq ft home with a pool at around ~1700 per month to a one bedroom luxury for 1100 per. The options where all over the place.

Initially I wanted to go to A&M, and I was completely willing to move- as I thought being able to possibly rotate at BUMC or the med center would be worth the hassle. Now, having finished my first semester I'm very happy I came here. As a disclaimer I am a non-trad, and kind of saw the writing on the wall towards the end of the interview cycle. I begin to realize that I wanted comfort above all else. That means short commute, cheap rent, and a big job market for my SO. Moving would have made all of those things more difficult to attain.

I think the single most important factor in being able to succeed in medical school is to cut the non-sense out, and live as stress free as possible. I am more than likely going to make all A's this semester, and its not because I am gifted, nor is it because we have the best faculty- its because I live in a manner where I can put in 12 hr days when I need to, and it doesn't really even bother me.

I have complained plenty of times about scheduling, or the way a subject is taught etc..... but this is going to happen everywhere. I've actually taught at the undergrad level, and fully understand how hard it is to deliver a medically related curriculum.... now imagine doing that for 200+ students- its just tough to please everyone.

Overall, my experience has been probably 75/25 more positive than negative.

I would say our first block which is Biochem/genetics/histo/cell bio could have been better. We had two guest lecturers that were pretty sub par IMO. But this was also happening at a time when I was just getting my bearings and study methods all worked out. I also don't feel as if they stayed on point with Step material.

We just finished our Micro/immuno/histo block and I was a big fan.... they taught us according to step material and stayed on point through out. I taught Clinical Immuno and can say I was impressed with what they did in that course.

Our anatomy department is great! It's a really tough course, but the resources they provide are extremely helpful. We have MS4's that come back to do a dedicated anatomy elective, and will tutor small groups on Saturdays/Sundays for $5 an hour, and its the best $5 you will ever spend. Also, we get a huge Q-bank that we use to prep for each written test- which are really helpful. Finally, we have a group of MS2s that do lecture reviews on the weekends where they directly address the learning objectives for each lecture (huge help). Also, we have anatomy review periods for 1 hr once per week during lunch that are recorded covering the prior week's material, usually given by the lecturer.

I'm not sure about A&M, but we also have a large anatomy faculty. So when you are doing dissections there are always 3-4 T/As or professors walking around in your dedicated room to help you find structures, or explain concepts.

Clinical skills has been pretty underwhelming, but I have a suspicion its more me than the class itself. Now, that I have been rounding with my preceptor it is starting to come together, and I am confident it will all fall into place before we start clinicals.

As far as other resources, I know that after our first test if you scored like a ~72 or lower they set you up with a tutor, but you really weren't eligible for one otherwise. Even so, we have a dedicated department for addressing your study habits/strategies etc. Cant speak to the value because I have not utilized the department.

All the MS2's have been extremely helpful as well- provided us with endless resources on our class google drive and are always willing to chat about how to study for "x" class. Our class as a whole always shares documents/resources.... has been a huge team effort and pretty proud of everyone in that regard.

Another big positive is that we are directly attached to University hospital. This may be one of the most underrated things about choosing a medical school. Today for instance, because I am on Christmas break, I texted my preceptor and asked if I could come in and round with them. I simply threw on my scrubs and white coat and saw 15 patients this morning, and also got a chance to take a history on a new admit. I'm not sure if that is the norm at other schools, but I know several class mates that have done the same.

So I think I've kind of addressed anything that I can speak on intelligently- will do my best to answer any others. But in the end, you should think about what brings you comfort, and choose a school that will give you the best shot of setting that up. I promise you it wont matter which school you choose- you are going to constantly feel behind and overwhelmed... just the way it goes, so try to address the things you can control.
 
Current MS1 here..... I pre-matched at A&M and UTHSCSA and was all set on going to A&M, but had a change of heart in December of last year.

I just read some of the discussion in the A&M thread, and if you are basing your decision solely on something posted in an anonymous internet forum- you are doing yourself a disservice. You have no idea what those posters' intentions are, and really no way to verify any of the narrative on either side.

What I am about to say really only pertains to choosing A&M vs. UTHSCSA. Most importantly, you have to understand this is my one and only experience.... so how would I truly know in the end if I would have been happier elsewhere.

Having said that, the reason I chose UTHSCSA over A&M was housing (we rent a 4 bedroom 2000 sq ft home for 1400 per month), work for my SO, and not having to pack up and move at any point. Also in regards to housing, we could have done anything from a 2500 sq ft home with a pool at around ~1700 per month to a one bedroom luxury for 1100 per. The options where all over the place.

Initially I wanted to go to A&M, and I was completely willing to move- as I thought being able to possibly rotate at BUMC or the med center would be worth the hassle. Now, having finished my first semester I'm very happy I came here. As a disclaimer I am a non-trad, and kind of saw the writing on the wall towards the end of the interview cycle. I begin to realize that I wanted comfort above all else. That means short commute, cheap rent, and a big job market for my SO. Moving would have made all of those things more difficult to attain.

I think the single most important factor in being able to succeed in medical school is to cut the non-sense out, and live as stress free as possible. I am more than likely going to make all A's this semester, and its not because I am gifted, nor is it because we have the best faculty- its because I live in a manner where I can put in 12 hr days when I need to, and it doesn't really even bother me.

I have complained plenty of times about scheduling, or the way a subject is taught etc..... but this is going to happen everywhere. I've actually taught at the undergrad level, and fully understand how hard it is to deliver a medically related curriculum.... now imagine doing that for 200+ students- its just tough to please everyone.

Overall, my experience has been probably 75/25 more positive than negative.

I would say our first block which is Biochem/genetics/histo/cell bio could have been better. We had two guest lecturers that were pretty sub par IMO. But this was also happening at a time when I was just getting my bearings and study methods all worked out. I also don't feel as if they stayed on point with Step material.

We just finished our Micro/immuno/histo block and I was a big fan.... they taught us according to step material and stayed on point through out. I taught Clinical Immuno and can say I was impressed with what they did in that course.

Our anatomy department is great! It's a really tough course, but the resources they provide are extremely helpful. We have MS4's that come back to do a dedicated anatomy elective, and will tutor small groups on Saturdays/Sundays for $5 an hour, and its the best $5 you will ever spend. Also, we get a huge Q-bank that we use to prep for each written test- which are really helpful. Finally, we have a group of MS2s that do lecture reviews on the weekends where they directly address the learning objectives for each lecture (huge help). Also, we have anatomy review periods for 1 hr once per week during lunch that are recorded covering the prior week's material, usually given by the lecturer.

I'm not sure about A&M, but we also have a large anatomy faculty. So when you are doing dissections there are always 3-4 T/As or professors walking around in your dedicated room to help you find structures, or explain concepts.

Clinical skills has been pretty underwhelming, but I have a suspicion its more me than the class itself. Now, that I have been rounding with my preceptor it is starting to come together, and I am confident it will all fall into place before we start clinicals.

As far as other resources, I know that after our first test if you scored like a ~72 or lower they set you up with a tutor, but you really weren't eligible for one otherwise. Even so, we have a dedicated department for addressing your study habits/strategies etc. Cant speak to the value because I have not utilized the department.

All the MS2's have been extremely helpful as well- provided us with endless resources on our class google drive and are always willing to chat about how to study for "x" class. Our class as a whole always shares documents/resources.... has been a huge team effort and pretty proud of everyone in that regard.

Another big positive is that we are directly attached to University hospital. This may be one of the most underrated things about choosing a medical school. Today for instance, because I am on Christmas break, I texted my preceptor and asked if I could come in and round with them. I simply threw on my scrubs and white coat and saw 15 patients this morning, and also got a chance to take a history on a new admit. I'm not sure if that is the norm at other schools, but I know several class mates that have done the same.

So I think I've kind of addressed anything that I can speak on intelligently- will do my best to answer any others. But in the end, you should think about what brings you comfort, and choose a school that will give you the best shot of setting that up. I promise you it wont matter which school you choose- you are going to constantly feel behind and overwhelmed... just the way it goes, so try to address the things you can control.
Thanks a lot! haha not basing my decision off of it but its definitely pushed me more towards UTHSCSA and I've been asking some of the A&M M3 and M4's about it to confirm. I was mostly concerned with how some A&M students said the teachers missed a lot of STEP stuff. I think we are very similar in that I really care a lot about how easy everything else in my life will be outside of med school. So do you think the gym, traffic, housing, groceries (costco) is better at UTHSCSA than TAMHSC?

also do you mind if i PM you about your study strategies?
 
@jchan10

We have golds on campus so doesn't get much more convenient than that, but we also have another golds about a mile down the road, thats where I lift because they have more squat racks.

As far as grocery shopping, not sure about costco we go to HEB, but we have everything relatively close to the school- Trader Joes, HEB, Target, Sprouts etc.

Traffic is annoying during peak times, but that is going to depend on where you live.... I live 5 miles from the school and it takes me about 20 mins to get to school on avg during peak times.... had a couple 45 min commutes when there was an accident or whatever, but not too bad overall.

And yeah send me a PM whenever.

Also, as far as vs A&M.... the campus is out in the country from what I remember, but Im sure convenience depends on where you live... I cant imagine the traffic situation is better being you have to go down that main drag right in front of the campus to get to the HSC.
 
Current MS1 here..... I pre-matched at A&M and UTHSCSA and was all set on going to A&M, but had a change of heart in December of last year.

I just read some of the discussion in the A&M thread, and if you are basing your decision solely on something posted in an anonymous internet forum- you are doing yourself a disservice. You have no idea what those posters' intentions are, and really no way to verify any of the narrative on either side.

What I am about to say really only pertains to choosing A&M vs. UTHSCSA. Most importantly, you have to understand this is my one and only experience.... so how would I truly know in the end if I would have been happier elsewhere.

Having said that, the reason I chose UTHSCSA over A&M was housing (we rent a 4 bedroom 2000 sq ft home for 1400 per month), work for my SO, and not having to pack up and move at any point. Also in regards to housing, we could have done anything from a 2500 sq ft home with a pool at around ~1700 per month to a one bedroom luxury for 1100 per. The options where all over the place.

Initially I wanted to go to A&M, and I was completely willing to move- as I thought being able to possibly rotate at BUMC or the med center would be worth the hassle. Now, having finished my first semester I'm very happy I came here. As a disclaimer I am a non-trad, and kind of saw the writing on the wall towards the end of the interview cycle. I begin to realize that I wanted comfort above all else. That means short commute, cheap rent, and a big job market for my SO. Moving would have made all of those things more difficult to attain.

I think the single most important factor in being able to succeed in medical school is to cut the non-sense out, and live as stress free as possible. I am more than likely going to make all A's this semester, and its not because I am gifted, nor is it because we have the best faculty- its because I live in a manner where I can put in 12 hr days when I need to, and it doesn't really even bother me.

I have complained plenty of times about scheduling, or the way a subject is taught etc..... but this is going to happen everywhere. I've actually taught at the undergrad level, and fully understand how hard it is to deliver a medically related curriculum.... now imagine doing that for 200+ students- its just tough to please everyone.

Overall, my experience has been probably 75/25 more positive than negative.

I would say our first block which is Biochem/genetics/histo/cell bio could have been better. We had two guest lecturers that were pretty sub par IMO. But this was also happening at a time when I was just getting my bearings and study methods all worked out. I also don't feel as if they stayed on point with Step material.

We just finished our Micro/immuno/histo block and I was a big fan.... they taught us according to step material and stayed on point through out. I taught Clinical Immuno and can say I was impressed with what they did in that course.

Our anatomy department is great! It's a really tough course, but the resources they provide are extremely helpful. We have MS4's that come back to do a dedicated anatomy elective, and will tutor small groups on Saturdays/Sundays for $5 an hour, and its the best $5 you will ever spend. Also, we get a huge Q-bank that we use to prep for each written test- which are really helpful. Finally, we have a group of MS2s that do lecture reviews on the weekends where they directly address the learning objectives for each lecture (huge help). Also, we have anatomy review periods for 1 hr once per week during lunch that are recorded covering the prior week's material, usually given by the lecturer.

I'm not sure about A&M, but we also have a large anatomy faculty. So when you are doing dissections there are always 3-4 T/As or professors walking around in your dedicated room to help you find structures, or explain concepts.

Clinical skills has been pretty underwhelming, but I have a suspicion its more me than the class itself. Now, that I have been rounding with my preceptor it is starting to come together, and I am confident it will all fall into place before we start clinicals.

As far as other resources, I know that after our first test if you scored like a ~72 or lower they set you up with a tutor, but you really weren't eligible for one otherwise. Even so, we have a dedicated department for addressing your study habits/strategies etc. Cant speak to the value because I have not utilized the department.

All the MS2's have been extremely helpful as well- provided us with endless resources on our class google drive and are always willing to chat about how to study for "x" class. Our class as a whole always shares documents/resources.... has been a huge team effort and pretty proud of everyone in that regard.

Another big positive is that we are directly attached to University hospital. This may be one of the most underrated things about choosing a medical school. Today for instance, because I am on Christmas break, I texted my preceptor and asked if I could come in and round with them. I simply threw on my scrubs and white coat and saw 15 patients this morning, and also got a chance to take a history on a new admit. I'm not sure if that is the norm at other schools, but I know several class mates that have done the same.

So I think I've kind of addressed anything that I can speak on intelligently- will do my best to answer any others. But in the end, you should think about what brings you comfort, and choose a school that will give you the best shot of setting that up. I promise you it wont matter which school you choose- you are going to constantly feel behind and overwhelmed... just the way it goes, so try to address the things you can control.

This was a really helpful read! It seems like the academic experience at both schools will be whatever you make it, but there are some significant differences between cstat and San Antonio
 
Just rescinded my offer here and hopefully someone gets my spot! Happy holidays!
 
Congratulations on y'all's acceptances to UT Health San Antonio SOM Class of 2021! We are very excited for you to begin your journey to become future physicians. The current medical students are excited to answer any questions you may have. Please make sure to join the FB Group!

If you are waiting to hear back good news from us, hold on tight! As many of you already know, you'll find out in early February and can be taken off the waitlist during the summer before school starts. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out to me.

- Akshay, MS2
 
I remember the Dean saying that they are SUPER match-heavy. I'm kind of shocked they sent out pre-match offers at all. Most of the students I met there matched, so you're probably doing fine!!

My bad if this is a late reply, but how did the dean say that exactly? Did she just say, "we match more than we prematch?"
 
My bad if this is a late reply, but how did the dean say that exactly? Did she just say, "we match more than we prematch?"

I believe she said they are getting more "match heavy." I heard this from various schools I interviewed at.
 
My bad if this is a late reply, but how did the dean say that exactly? Did she just say, "we match more than we prematch?"
I remember her saying that they "trust the match process a lot" and went on to say that a good majority of those admitted are during the match.
 
The Facebook page linked above has 26 members, now if we could find out if that page was started by an official coordinator we would have a good idea if it's match heavy.
 
I figured they would have another batch of OOS acceptances by now. I'm losing hope. Are all the OOS spots already full?
 
The Facebook page linked above has 26 members, now if we could find out if that page was started by an official coordinator we would have a good idea if it's match heavy.

It's official, however some of the people that are currently in the group are MS2's to help answer any questions that you guys may have.
 
Has anyone gotten a letter of acceptance via mail? I just received a package from them, but never the letter. So just wondering.
 
Has anyone gotten a letter of acceptance via mail? I just received a package from them, but never the letter. So just wondering.

You can't say you received a package and not reveal what it entails.

On another note, any news about scholarships?
 
Current MS1 here. Figured I would throw a couple things out that weren't made very clear to me before I came here.

1. Most schools emphasize how all the lectures are recorded and a lot of students will talk about how they mostly stream from home instead of going to class. I'm one of those people since I get a lot more done streaming than going to class. But what they didn't tell me about this school is how many of the classes have mandatory attendance. In every module you will have to attend some number of lectures so don't plan on staying home most of the time. Anecdotally, I know plenty of other schools have zero attendance requirements allowing students to choose how they use their time.

2. This school is extremely quiz happy. In that first semester, we would have 6+ quizzes in a single week between all the different classes we had going on. The quizzing has slowed down a bit in second semester but we still can plan on at least 3 every week. Seems a lot of students like this since it keeps them caught up. If you're in that boat, then this school will be a great fit. On the other hand, if you'd prefer to have a bit more autonomy, I would consider other schools. The administration here is very paternalistic and basically expect you get through school exactly how they have planned it all out for you.

3. The first semester here is pretty extreme and taking even a single day off in a week was a luxury I didn't get that often. MS4s here are about to graduate and still say that that first semester is the worst of all four years so the upside at least is once you're through it, its all downhill from there.

Generally though, great school and good student body though the location kind of sucks being out in the suburbs. Definitely think about how you learn and study and come to conclusion about whether you would fit in with the administration's idea of how you're supposed to survive in med school.
 
Current MS1 here. Figured I would throw a couple things out that weren't made very clear to me before I came here.

1. Most schools emphasize how all the lectures are recorded and a lot of students will talk about how they mostly stream from home instead of going to class. I'm one of those people since I get a lot more done streaming than going to class. But what they didn't tell me about this school is how many of the classes have mandatory attendance. In every module you will have to attend some number of lectures so don't plan on staying home most of the time. Anecdotally, I know plenty of other schools have zero attendance requirements allowing students to choose how they use their time.

2. This school is extremely quiz happy. In that first semester, we would have 6+ quizzes in a single week between all the different classes we had going on. The quizzing has slowed down a bit in second semester but we still can plan on at least 3 every week. Seems a lot of students like this since it keeps them caught up. If you're in that boat, then this school will be a great fit. On the other hand, if you'd prefer to have a bit more autonomy, I would consider other schools. The administration here is very paternalistic and basically expect you get through school exactly how they have planned it all out for you.

3. The first semester here is pretty extreme and taking even a single day off in a week was a luxury I didn't get that often. MS4s here are about to graduate and still say that that first semester is the worst of all four years so the upside at least is once you're through it, its all downhill from there.

Generally though, great school and good student body though the location kind of sucks being out in the suburbs. Definitely think about how you learn and study and come to conclusion about whether you would fit in with the administration's idea of how you're supposed to survive in med school.

This person might be a troll since they joined 3 hrs ago and have only posted this. This person also posted this after rank lists had to be submitted. Just something to consider if you read this and it makes your worry.


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This person might be a troll since they joined 3 hrs ago and have only posted this. This person also posted this after rank lists had to be submitted. Just something to consider if you read this and it makes your worry.


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Same thing happened in last year's thread :thinking:
 
This person might be a troll since they joined 3 hrs ago and have only posted this. This person also posted this after rank lists had to be submitted. Just something to consider if you read this and it makes your worry.


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Not a troll. I'm a non-traditional student and my older account had enough details in its post history that my classmates would be able to ID me. New account just to maintain anonymity. I don't think I was being overly critical, just sharing some details about the program that weren't shared with me this time last year.

Just trying to help.
 
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This person might be a troll since they joined 3 hrs ago and have only posted this. This person also posted this after rank lists had to be submitted. Just something to consider if you read this and it makes your worry.


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Doesn't seem like something a troll would post. It seems like someone trying to give genuine information.
 
Not a troll. I'm a non-traditional student and my older account had enough details in its post history that my classmates would be able to ID me. New account just to maintain anonymity. I don't think I was being overly critical, just sharing some details about the program that weren't shared with me this time last year.

Just trying to help.

So, are you saying you regret your decision?
 
Doesn't seem like something a troll would post. It seems like someone trying to give genuine information.
And, what do you mean by them being paternalistic? Don't all schools have their own model that they set out for students to follow?
 
And, what do you mean by them being paternalistic? Don't all schools have their own model that they set out for students to follow?


Current MS1 here as well. Not sure what they mean about paternalistic, every school has a curriculum that students must follow, so I'm not sure if I agree with that statement.

As for me I'm proud of my decision to go to UT Health SA. I prematched at 8 schools including UTSW and chose this school because I would be close to family. Yes we do have around 6 quizzes per week in the first semester, however 3 of those quizzes are team quizzes. Pretty much every quiz you have you take on your own first, and then you take with your TBL or synthesis group except for anatomy quizzes.

I don't go to class so I pretty much stream all of the time. There are a few mandatory classes per module, but most are either optional or participatory (meaning you have to attend like 7/9 or 6/10 sessions; the requirements are listed in the syllabus for each module).

San Antonio may be a bit of downgrade if you are coming from a larger more exciting city, however UTHSCSA really is a great school and SA is in it's own little niche (it's actually a really large city, just more spread out) Good research opportunities are very easy to get ahold of, and the student body is pretty awesome. The South Texas Med Center isn't TMC or Parkland, but it's still a pretty big place with some cool new infrastructure taking place. Also because SA is a military city, it's pretty cool to have connections to the San Antonio Military Medical Center which is the largest Army military medical center in the US (if you are in to that sort of thing).

Feel free to PM if you have anymore questions!
 
And, what do you mean by them being paternalistic? Don't all schools have their own model that they set out for students to follow?

Yea of course every school has a curriculum but not every school will quiz you on Thursday and Friday on material given that same week. I called it paternalistic since the quizzing structure all but ensures that you're studying exactly what they want and on their schedule (see the breakdown below). Having mandatory attendance feeds into this as well since they're requiring you to sit through a lecture that is recorded anyways. Plenty of other schools provide their students with more autonomy to manage their time (what little of it there is) as they see fit. Speaking with friends at other schools, it isn't uncommon at all to just have a mid term and a final instead of a bunch of little other benchmarks along the way. And I mentioned in my first post, most people in my class I've asked actually like it since it keeps them caught up and lessens the impact of a bad mid term or final exam grade.

If I was coming right out of undergrad, I don't think I would mind this at all since it's more or less the same thing with a higher time commitment. But if you've spent much time out of school, you'll come here and wish they treated you more like an adult. I just brought it up since I thought prospective students might like to know.

however 3 of those quizzes are team quizzes

I should clarify what I meant when I said 6+ quizzes in a week and breakdown what each was. If I'm picking a week at random early in first semester:
  • Monday morning would have an individual and team quiz on the prior weeks material in biochem and in the afternoon there would be an individual quiz on the prior week's material in Anatomy plus a second pre-anatomy lab quiz (though these were always easy and done ahead of time on Canvas).
  • Tuesday or Wednesday would have an individual and team quiz in Clinical Skills.
  • Thursday would have an individual and team quiz on some % of that week's material in biochem plus an additional pre-lab quiz due for anatomy that afternoon.
  • Friday morning would have an individual and team quiz on some % of that week's material plus some new stuff they'd throw in there.
Count those up however you like. I'll also take this opportunity to address the last piece of all this. How much are all these quizzes worth anyways? When an individual quiz is paired with a team quiz, the team is always worth 2x what the individual quiz is worth and your team will probably get a 100% on it. So that can definitely help your grade! But, using biochem as the example, your individual quiz grades were worth 6% of your total grade in the end so you can't neglect them if you're gunning for that A.

Here's the good news though... As I mentioned in my first post, first semester is the worst by far and now in second semester there is quite a bit less of this since we're done with anatomy and there are no more quizzes in Clinical Skills.

As for me I'm proud of my decision to go to UT Health SA. I prematched at 8 schools including UTSW...
So, are you saying you regret your decision?

I also got into other schools (including SW) and at this point I don't regret my decision at all. Like Cookie04, I also decided to come here because of family (among other reasons) which perfectly highlights the point I really want to make. There are so many factors to consider in this decision and the pre-clinical curriculum and grading structure is only one of them. Frankly, I would never tell someone to base their entire decision on that since it's only 2 years before step 1 and more often than not, grades don't really even matter in med school. But in going through this whole process last year, I definitely felt that the current students really tried to promote certain aspects of the school and completely neglected to mention others. These issues might matter to some people more than others and I just wanted to share that information.

Anyways, I'm way t0o far in the weeds at this point but I just wanted to be clear about everything I was talking about earlier. If anyone has further questions, feel free to post here, or PM me or Cookie04.

Now back to blood cancers for our heme test on Friday.
 
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Yea of course every school has a curriculum but not every school will quiz you on Thursday and Friday on material given that same week. I called it paternalistic since the quizzing structure all but ensures that you're studying exactly what they want and on their schedule (see the breakdown below). Having mandatory attendance feeds into this as well since they're requiring you to sit through a lecture that is recorded anyways. Plenty of other schools provide their students with more autonomy to manage their time (what little of it there is) as they see fit. Speaking with friends at other schools, it isn't uncommon at all to just have a mid term and a final instead of a bunch of little other benchmarks along the way. And I mentioned in my first post, most people in my class I've asked actually like it since it keeps them caught up and lessens the impact of a bad mid term or final exam grade.

If I was coming right out of undergrad, I don't think I would mind this at all since it's more or less the same thing with a higher time commitment. But if you've spent much time out of school, you'll come here and wish they treated you more like an adult. I just brought it up since I thought prospective students might like to know.



I should clarify what I meant when I said 6+ quizzes in a week and breakdown what each was. If I'm picking a week at random early in first semester:
  • Monday morning would have an individual and team quiz on the prior weeks material in biochem and in the afternoon there would be an individual quiz on the prior week's material in Anatomy plus a second pre-anatomy lab quiz (though these were always easy and done ahead of time on Canvas).
  • Tuesday or Wednesday would have an individual and team quiz in Clinical Skills.
  • Thursday would have an individual and team quiz on some % of that week's material in biochem plus an additional pre-lab quiz due for anatomy that afternoon.
  • Friday morning would have an individual and team quiz on some % of that week's material plus some new stuff they'd throw in there.
Count those up however you like. I'll also take this opportunity to address the last piece of all this. How much are all these quizzes worth anyways? When an individual quiz is paired with a team quiz, the team is always worth 2x what the individual quiz is worth and your team will probably get a 100% on it. So that can definitely help your grade! But, using biochem as the example, your individual quiz grades were worth 6% of your total grade in the end so you can't neglect them if you're gunning for that A.

Here's the good news though... As I mentioned in my first post, first semester is the worst by far and now in second semester there is quite a bit less of this since we're done with anatomy and there are no more quizzes in Clinical Skills.




I also got into other schools (including SW) and at this point I don't regret my decision at all. Like Cookie04, I also decided to come here because of family (among other reasons) which perfectly highlights the point I really want to make. There are so many factors to consider in this decision and the pre-clinical curriculum and grading structure is only one of them. Frankly, I would never tell someone to base their entire decision on that since it's only 2 years before step 1 and more often than not, grades don't really even matter in med school. But in going through this whole process last year, I definitely felt that the current students really tried to promote certain aspects of the school and completely neglected to mention others. These issues might matter to some people more than others and I just wanted to share that information.

Anyways, I'm way t0o far in the weeds at this point but I just wanted to be clear about everything I was talking about earlier. If anyone has further questions, feel free to post here, or PM me or Cookie04.

Now back to blood cancers for our heme test on Friday.
thanks for the info. ill be going here next year
 
Anyone else get that OOS email today? Had me nervous, then excited, then let down... Waiting and waiting and waiting.
I'm OOS, interviewed, but didn't get an email. Haven't gotten any correspondence from them since my interview. What did the email say?
 
I'm OOS, interviewed, but didn't get an email. Haven't gotten any correspondence from them since my interview. What did the email say?

I'm not sure if it was the same one, but I got an email that same day just reminding people about the match and FAFSA that got sent to both OOS and IS (I'm OOS, and it mentioned stuff to both IS and OOS people, mainly just about FAFSA). I talked to another person at my school, also OOS, who interviewed there as well, but they didn't receive the email. So maybe there is just a hiccup or maybe its a bad sign. Not enough info to make any determination.
 
So I know they send out enough Matches to fill their class today, but do they send out enough to account for applicants who Matched elsewhere and leave vacant seats? In other words, is the class now full or are there still some empty seats due to the Match process shuffling applicants around.
 
I don't think anyone else would have matched elsewhere, but if someone goes to a non-tmdsas school and vacates their spot then they'd probably move to the waiting list.
 
I don't think anyone else would have matched elsewhere, but if someone goes to a non-tmdsas school and vacates their spot then they'd probably move to the waiting list.
It's kind of hard for me to phrase this question >.< Lol.

Let's say today San Antonio only ranked 220 students. Not all of those 220 students will have put San Antonio as their top choice, meaning there are vacant seats. I'm asking if the Match process requires the school to have ranked more students so they can fill these vacant seats left by students who Matched to higher schools. Am I making sense? 😵
 
It's kind of hard for me to phrase this question >.< Lol.

Let's say today San Antonio only ranked 220 students. Not all of those 220 students will have put San Antonio as their top choice, meaning there are vacant seats. I'm asking if the Match process requires the school to have ranked more students so they can fill these vacant seats left by students who Matched to higher schools. Am I making sense? 😵

yeah that makes sense. I'm under the impression that they would have ranked more to make sure it filled. I would be surprised if I was one of the top 220 students
 
It's kind of hard for me to phrase this question >.< Lol.

Let's say today San Antonio only ranked 220 students. Not all of those 220 students will have put San Antonio as their top choice, meaning there are vacant seats. I'm asking if the Match process requires the school to have ranked more students so they can fill these vacant seats left by students who Matched to higher schools. Am I making sense? 😵
There's no way to answer this kind of question- obviously if there were some applicants holding several pre-matches, they will now have only one match spot. The next few weeks will be the reshuffling period and if a class is not full, offers will be made little by little from the WL. Schools will offer WL spots soon.
 
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