2017-2018 Carle-Illinois College of Medicine

[gyngyn]

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A description of the nontraditional Secondary application now has a link from the website to a You Tube video at: Secondary Application – Carle Illinois College of Medicine

A) Minute 1.02: You will submit artifacts to your portfolio featuring your greatest accomplishments to date, to reflect your:

1) Compassion
2) Creativity
3) Curiosity
4) Competence

[Examples in each category are provided.]

B) Minute 2.47: Questions posed to you through the application platform will need a camera enabled phone, tablet, or laptop for response. A question will come up on the screen. You'll have a few seconds to reflect on the answer and after the camera turns on, may have two attempts to respond.

No interviews, but a series of regularly scheduled showcases and open houses to meet faculty and see the campus will be offered.

Good luck to everyone applying!

 

[btuck]

Does anyone know what the deal is with this school? I am an IL resident and hear we get an automatic full ride for being the inaugural class??? How is this school different from UIUC? Very confused.

 

[Pleides]

Any idea what IS/OOS preference would be like?

 

[btuck]

I would expect it to be IS only but no idea.

 

[7331poas]

I dunno how try plan on filling 32 seats of engineer-premeds IS only.

 

[Sixsuit]

Super excited about this school. Anyone have insight into when they'll show up on amcas?

 

[jjj4]

According to their site, the secondary is not essay based. Also, no secondary fee.

"After initial screening, secondary applications will be sent to eligible students at no cost. Our innovative, non-traditional secondary application process will consist of a portfolio and video response to questions related to the ethics and values of medicine."

 

[WolfofWallSt]

Does anyone know what the deal is with this school? I am an IL resident and hear we get an automatic full ride for being the inaugural class??? How is this school different from UIUC? Very confused.

This school use to be affiliated with UIC in the past, but someone from the UIC board informed me that the Urbana campus petitioned to split off into their own medical school, which was obviously approved. I'm sure a lot of the facilities and internal structure are still in place, so they don't need to start from scratch. Like others have said, the tuition is covered for the first class because of donations.

 

[Hasniii]

If not IS only, I will apply. Would love to use my passion for Medicine + passion of engineering.

 

[Pleides]

According to their site, the secondary is not essay based. Also, no secondary fee.

"After initial screening, secondary applications will be sent to eligible students at no cost. Our innovative, non-traditional secondary application process will consist of a portfolio and video response to questions related to the ethics and values of medicine."

My desire to apply to this school is suddenly gone

 

[FinesseLife833]

My desire to apply to this school is suddenly gone

ok i legitimately laughed out loud when I saw your response lolol

 

[7331poas]

My desire to apply to this school is suddenly gone

ill suck it up for 250k

 

[btuck]

I dunno how try plan on filling 32 seats of engineer-premeds IS only.

University of Illinois has one of the best engineering programs in the country so they should have no problem. Also keep in mind about 2000 students apply from IL each year - more than most other states.

 

[7331poas]

University of Illinois has one of the best engineering programs in the country so they should have no problem. Also keep in mind about 2000 students apply from IL each year - more than most other states.

Ok. But having a good engineering program doesn't mean those guys are premed. In fact it probably points opposite. Those grads want to move into industry

How many grads total is irrelevant. They have to be engineers.

 

[tiramisucheese]

I emailed admissions today. You don't need to be an engineering major to be accepted. The idea is to bring the analytical and technical aspects of engineering and incorporate them into a medical curriculum. They're not trying to make a bunch of doctors that will go out and be engineers too.

If you look at their required/suggested courses, they're pretty much the same as most other schools except for the addition of differential equations and linear algebra.

Except they also recommend having experience with computer programming/coding.

 

[Sixsuit]

Except they also recommend having experience with computer programming/coding.

Thank god for my current career!

 

[Pleides]

I emailed admissions today. You don't need to be an engineering major to be accepted. The idea is to bring the analytical and technical aspects of engineering and incorporate them into a medical curriculum. They're not trying to make a bunch of doctors that will go out and be engineers too.

If you look at their required/suggested courses, they're pretty much the same as most other schools except for the addition of differential equations and linear algebra.

Don't forget that multivariable calculus. I'll finally have a use for that course

 

[djtallahassee]

Anyone wanna use their engineering skills to guess how many applicants? I think data could be used from the MSAR/Matriculate questionnaire to get +/-30%. One would have to think mainly engineers are applying which can't be that many.

My rough numbers of 32 class means ~80 (maybe they dont need a 2.5x factor since it is free tuition?) offers and about 130 IIs with ~ 60% acceptance rate.

Also, anyone going for any of the open houses?

 

[7331poas]

Anyone wanna use their engineering skills to guess how many applicants? I think data could be used from the MSAR/Matriculate questionnaire to get +/-30%. One would have to think mainly engineers are applying which can't be that many.

My rough numbers of 32 class means ~80 (maybe they dont need a 2.5x factor since it is free tuition?) offers and about 130 IIs with ~ 60% acceptance rate.

Also, anyone going for any of the open houses?

I wont go to the top house but I will be applying.

As for the first question, I think the applicant pool definitely will be reduced by several factors:

1) Acceptances have already gone out, so early interviewees will likely be out of the pool
2) Its a new program, so any applicant will have to have known about this place solely from their advertising efforts/SDN
3) Of course, you have to meet their requirements.

So id say less than 1000 for sure.

 

[WolfofWallSt]

Anyone wanna use their engineering skills to guess how many applicants? I think data could be used from the MSAR/Matriculate questionnaire to get +/-30%. One would have to think mainly engineers are applying which can't be that many.

My rough numbers of 32 class means ~80 (maybe they dont need a 2.5x factor since it is free tuition?) offers and about 130 IIs with ~ 60% acceptance rate.

Also, anyone going for any of the open houses?

I doubt mainly engineers would apply (if you mean this to be majority), as this is a medical school after all and has the free tuition. This is incentive for anyone really, even if they don't have the recommended courses, as they are not required courses. A lot of non-engineers also have a high interest in technology, which is completely warranted as the health profession relies on it/utilizes it more and more for better or for worse. This is not to say that this is not directed towards premedical engineers because it clearly is. I just don't think that those are the majority of the applicants that the school will receive. The article about Carle SOM online said that more than 600 people already signed up to be notified with more information. I think we should expect a lot of applications though not as much as an established school. Probably more than what you would expect though. Free is quite enticing.

 

[djtallahassee]

As for the first question, I think the applicant pool definitely will be reduced by several factors:

1) Acceptances have already gone out, so early interviewees will likely be out of the pool
2) Its a new program, so any applicant will have to have known about this place solely from their advertising efforts/SDN
3) Of course, you have to meet their requirements.

So id say less than 1000 for sure.

I agree the acceptance will weed people out. A lot of premeds simply don't have money to apply and fly around everywhere. If they do, they may not care ea ton about tuition. My original thoguht on my numbers were between 1-2K since a lot of schools interview about 10% of applicants.

I doubt mainly engineers would apply (if you mean this to be majority), as this is a medical school after all and has the free tuition. This is incentive for anyone really, even if they don't have the recommended courses, as they are not required courses. A lot of non-engineers also have a high interest in technology, which is completely warranted as the health profession relies on it/utilizes it more and more for better or for worse. This is not to say that this is not directed towards premedical engineers because it clearly is. I just don't think that those are the majority of the applicants that the school will receive. The article about Carle SOM online said that more than 600 people already signed up to be notified with more information. I think we should expect a lot of applications though not as much as an established school. Probably more than what you would expect though. Free is quite enticing.

If I remember right, someone on the UIC forums a year or two ago claimed they had a fairly complex algorithm that actually weighted your undergrad and maybe some classes. I would expect UIUC would retain a similar formula and may reduce the amount of secondaries they send out. This COULD be where they weed out non engineers that don't have courses to back up their interests. They will have to have some kind of control if the secondary is free.

 

[Sixsuit]

Schools have a lot riding on their charter classes, much more than an average school has riding on their incoming class. They want the best students they can get, so I highly doubt they're going to significantly filter or screen before secondaries. They're going to want to cast as wide a net as possible.

 

[DSM_302.0]

Has anyone been able to apply yet? I'm a software engineer born and raised in Illinois and this seems dope.

 

[djtallahassee]

For those of you wondering what the secondary entails, here you go. It seems like the video response is much better than any essay I've written, as it's more about what your gut response is rather than how well you can write.

I heard in there that there is no interview?! Weird. Also that secondary sounds long

 

[7331poas]

This secondary sounds like hell. mannnn

 

[Pleides]

Soooo basically there's no point in visiting the campus unless you get an acceptance.

 

[milestoMD]

Ok. But having a good engineering program doesn't mean those guys are premed. In fact it probably points opposite. Those grads want to move into industry

How many grads total is irrelevant. They have to be engineers.

Ok. But having a good engineering program doesn't mean those guys are premed. In fact it probably points opposite. Those grads want to move into industry

How many grads total is irrelevant. They have to be engineers.

I just graduated from U of I in Bioengineering, and we were about 20% pre-med. Almost all my professors are involved in the new med school - from what I've heard over the past 2 years they're trying really hard to make it an amazing program combining medicine and engineering, aiming at bringing in students who have had some exposure to engineering coursework but not necessarily majored in it. I don't think they'll have any problems filling 32 spots

 

[djtallahassee]

Anyone down there tomorrow?

 

[Dr Toboggan]

Schools have a lot riding on their charter classes, much more than an average school has riding on their incoming class. They want the best students they can get, so I highly doubt they're going to significantly filter or screen before secondaries. They're going to want to cast as wide a net as possible.

Am I missing something? In order to get the best possible applicants, they would want to screen heavily. You're absolutely right with your first point: there's no way they'd roll the dice on students with mediocre stats. They want people they know are going to succeed and further the rep of the school.

 

[DSM_302.0]

How can I apply? Are they going through AMCAS?

 

[Sixsuit]

Am I missing something? In order to get the best possible applicants, they would want to screen heavily. You're absolutely right with your first point: there's no way they'd roll the dice on students with mediocre stats. They want people they know are going to succeed and further the rep of the school.

What I mean is that I doubt they'll screen out otherwise fantastic applicants who are missing one or two of the suggested courses as one of the above posters suggested. There are plenty of students who would thrive in an environment such as this who haven't taken things like multivariable calculus or diff eq. I guess time will tell!

 

[Dr Toboggan]

What I mean is that I doubt they'll screen out otherwise fantastic applicants who are missing one or two of the suggested courses as one of the above posters suggested. There are plenty of students who would thrive in an environment such as this who haven't taken things like multivariable calculus or diff eq. I guess time will tell!

Ah ok I completely agree. November 1st can't come any sooner! I was told that's when CICOM would be available on AMCAS.

 

[DougStamper]

Anyone planning on going to one of the showcases?

 

[Pleides]

Anyone planning on going to one of the showcases?

I doubt anyone would bother going unless they're already local

 

[Sixsuit]

I doubt anyone would bother going unless they're already local

I was considering going to the November one.

 

[Pleides]

I was considering going to the November one.

Of course you're free to go if you want but there really is no point in visiting unless you've been accepted, seeing as they are not doing on-site interviews. The cost of going to the open house (flights + hotel) makes it absolutely not worth unless you're already in the area and can just easily drive there.

 

[Catalystik]

Super excited about this school. Anyone have insight into when they'll show up on amcas?

Website says sometime in November.

Carle Illinois College of Medicine is now available as an AMCAS selection under "Add Medical School."

Program *
Regular M.D. (Currently only U.S. citizens or permanent residents may be considered for admission) (Restricted)

Program Deadline
January 18, 2018

Transcript Deadline
February 1, 2018

 

[DBC03]

Does anyone know what the LOR requirements are? I have a committee packet and would love to assign it here, but I don’t want to jump the gun.


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[Sixsuit]

Primary submitted! Super excited about this opportunity 🙂

 

[DBC03]

I submitted earlier this morning! Super excited as well!


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[jazzmetal]

Submitted primary! It felt good to be early *somewhere*! lol

 

[dastri]

Just submitted the primary as well - also very excited about Carle - wish I had some idea of my chances though. They literally built my dream medical school!

 

[DSM_302.0]

Software engineer, Illinois born and raised. Threw in my hat this weekend.

 

[DBC03]

Is anyone thinking of visiting in November? I feel like meeting faculty in person would help my chances. But I don’t feel like paying for a flight and missing my husbands birthday...


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[tiramisucheese]

Is anyone thinking of visiting in November? I feel like meeting faculty in person would help my chances. But I don’t feel like paying for a flight and missing my husbands birthday...


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They're also having one of those sessions in Chicago in December. Easier to get to, but you obviously own't be able to see the facilities/campus.

 

[DBC03]

They're also having one of those sessions in Chicago in December. Easier to get to, but you obviously own't be able to see the facilities/campus.

When in December? I’m in NYC for an interview mid-Dec so I feel like that might not work. I’ll be flying from Florida - I’ll check all the weird flight options to see if something works!


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[Sixsuit]

Is anyone thinking of visiting in November? I feel like meeting faculty in person would help my chances. But I don’t feel like paying for a flight and missing my husbands birthday...


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I was considering it... but I've been holding off on buying tickets

 

[DBC03]

I was considering it... but I've been holding off on buying tickets

If I could find something super cheap (hahahahahahahahaha), then I would spring for it. The one thing holding me back is that I'm not big on programming, so I wonder if that would make me a poor choice for this school. On the other hand, I have over 10 years of engineering experience, and most of that was computer modeling. I'm also doing computational biology research now. I have programming experience, but I would need to do some kind of bootcamp before school starts to get back up to date. If I felt I have a really good chance, I would try to get my face in there as I'm better at interacting at the personal level than writing about myself.

 

[Sixsuit]

If I could find something super cheap (hahahahahahahahaha), then I would spring for it. The one thing holding me back is that I'm not big on programming, so I wonder if that would make me a poor choice for this school. On the other hand, I have over 10 years of engineering experience, and most of that was computer modeling. I'm also doing computational biology research now. I have programming experience, but I would need to do some kind of bootcamp before school starts to get back up to date. If I felt I have a really good chance, I would try to get my face in there as I'm better at interacting at the personal level than writing about myself.

People tend to worry about the syntax of programming, but that's the easy part. With your background in critical thinking, you'll be in a great spot 🙂 Shoot your shot!

 

[FinesseLife833]

If I could find something super cheap (hahahahahahahahaha), then I would spring for it. The one thing holding me back is that I'm not big on programming, so I wonder if that would make me a poor choice for this school. On the other hand, I have over 10 years of engineering experience, and most of that was computer modeling. I'm also doing computational biology research now. I have programming experience, but I would need to do some kind of bootcamp before school starts to get back up to date. If I felt I have a really good chance, I would try to get my face in there as I'm better at interacting at the personal level than writing about myself.

People tend to worry about the syntax of programming, but that's the easy part. With your background in critical thinking, you'll be in a great spot 🙂 Shoot your shot!

agreed! syntax of programming is honestly very trivial. If you have the critical reasoning required to create programs then you're gucci. Most software engineer interviews are usually in pseudocode from what I've heard b/c they know you can easily learn the syntax of a language in ~2 weeks