2021-2022 William Carey University College of Osteopathic Medicine (WCUCOM)

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I was deferred and I thought that was the same thing as waitlisted but when I called to ask the lady said that waitlist and deferred are two separate lists and she didnt really explain what the difference was.
 
maybe one list has priority over the other? now which list I have no clue
 
mmistry said:
I was deferred and I thought that was the same thing as waitlisted but when I called to ask the lady said that waitlist and deferred are two separate lists and she didnt really explain what the difference was.
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I feel you on that one. I got the same vague answer as well.
 
YungRic said:
I feel you on that one. I got the same vague answer as well.
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I asked if she could tell me my position on that list and she kept saying that I haven't actually been accepted yet (which I know because the status letter says "you haven't been accepted or rejected") and that they would go back and review sometime after the seat deposit deadline. I asked if they would review the waitlist or deferred list first and she didn't really give me an answer. But on the II powerpoint and on the website it says students will either be accepted, rejected, or deferred. There's no clarification from anyone about what the waitlist vs. deferred list is. I'm so confused loll.
 
mmistry said:
I asked if she could tell me my position on that list and she kept saying that I haven't actually been accepted yet (which I know because the status letter says "you haven't been accepted or rejected") and that they would go back and review sometime after the seat deposit deadline. I asked if they would review the waitlist or deferred list first and she didn't really give me an answer. But on the II powerpoint and on the website it says students will either be accepted, rejected, or deferred. There's no clarification from anyone about what the waitlist vs. deferred list is. I'm so confused loll.
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i feel for ya! i'd be curious if the folks above who said they were waitlisted this week actually received the "deferred" letter with a note that they were on the waitlist. i know the earliest folks waitlisted actually received a deferred letter, but then had their waitlist position written on the letter. but i imagine once that list gets long they probably quit writing positions. would someone who was waitlisted this week be willing to share what their waitlisted letter said? i will say if you have detailed questions about where you specifically stand, i would reach out to Dr. Weir (the Dean) directly, or or send him a personal email. i know because of confidentiality front office admissions doesn't always have a clear picture of what the admissions committee is doing with waitlists and who stands where. as frustrating as it is, the front office person is probably giving you vague information because they were given vague information by the admissions committee, in order to protect applicants confidentiality. hang in there and remember from last years thread, like 80-90% of the people who interviewed were eventually admitted!
 
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ellaevie said:
i feel for ya! i'd be curious if the folks above who said they were waitlisted this week actually received the "deferred" letter with a note that they were on the waitlist. i know the earliest folks waitlisted actually received a deferred letter, but then had their waitlist position written on the letter. but i imagine once that list gets long they probably quit writing positions. would someone who was waitlisted this week be willing to share what their waitlisted letter said? i will say if you have detailed questions about where you specifically stand, i would reach out to Dr. Weir (the Dean) directly, or or send him a personal email. i know because of confidentiality front office admissions doesn't always have a clear picture of what the admissions committee is doing with waitlists and who stands where. as frustrating as it is, the front office person is probably giving you vague information because they were given vague information by the admissions committee, in order to protect applicants confidentiality. hang in there and remember from last years thread, like 80-90% of the people who interviewed were eventually admitted!
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So, my email said I was put on the alternate list. I called about an hour ago and asked if the alternate list was essentially a waitlist, to which she said yes. She also said that they are planning on sending updated letters on 12/17 to those on this list depending on how many seats open up after the deposit deadline. Idk if this helps but I hope it helps for those who are wondering... still a bit vague oof
 
Moooo98 said:
I asked if she could tell me my position on that list and she kept saying that I haven't actually been accepted yet (which I know because the status letter says "you haven't been accepted or rejected") and that they would go back and review sometime after the seat deposit deadline. I asked if they would review the waitlist or deferred list first and she didn't really give me an answer. But on the II powerpoint and on the website it says students will either be accepted, rejected, or deferred. There's no clarification from anyone about what the waitlist vs. deferred list is. I'm so confused loll.
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So I called the office today and they said to just email Dr. Weir. If I hear from him back I’ll update y’all about the difference between the two. I wasn’t even told that we were getting viewed after the deposit deadline so that is news to me! Thank you for that.
 
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ellaevie said:
i feel for ya! i'd be curious if the folks above who said they were waitlisted this week actually received the "deferred" letter with a note that they were on the waitlist. i know the earliest folks waitlisted actually received a deferred letter, but then had their waitlist position written on the letter. but i imagine once that list gets long they probably quit writing positions. would someone who was waitlisted this week be willing to share what their waitlisted letter said? i will say if you have detailed questions about where you specifically stand, i would reach out to Dr. Weir (the Dean) directly, or or send him a personal email. i know because of confidentiality front office admissions doesn't always have a clear picture of what the admissions committee is doing with waitlists and who stands where. as frustrating as it is, the front office person is probably giving you vague information because they were given vague information by the admissions committee, in order to protect applicants confidentiality. hang in there and remember from last years thread, like 80-90% of the people who interviewed were eventually admitted!
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My email this week also said that I was on the "alternate list"
 
chickpea122 said:
That is a quick turn around time. Do you mind sharing your stats ?
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I agree! I was not at all expecting an II so soon. I don't mind at all! 503, 3.5 GPA, 4.0 SMP, lots of DO shadowing and worked at a PCP clinic with many DO's. Happy to answer more questions if you have them!
 
secondary completed at the end of august and its been radio silence since. Should i write this school off? 🙁
 
rosief said:
secondary completed at the end of august and its been radio silence since. Should i write this school off? 🙁
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From reading past years threads it seems like they are super open to giving feedback. You could absolutely reach out and I'm sure they will let you know where you stand!
 
cakesniffer said:
I emailed them about two months ago asking for a status update and they responded that my app is "awaiting an internal review" and will be considered "until the class is full"

unfortunately to my knowledge the class has been full for a while now
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So I actually interviewed today and they said while the class technically is full they expect a lot of seats to open with the 12/14 deposit deadline. Also, from looking at past threads they sent IIs all the way up until June! Don't lose hope. It's not over until it's over!!
 
I submitted my primary a month ago, and I still have no secondary, should I call?
 
I submitted a secondary little over a month ago and haven't heard anything back. Should I be worried? First-time applicant, so I don't know how long it typically takes for them to send out II.
 
NYC2016! said:
I submitted a secondary little over a month ago and haven't heard anything back. Should I be worried? First-time applicant, so I don't know how long it typically takes for them to send out II.
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Definitely call Dr. Jim Weir. He's super friendly and will let you know where you stand!
 
B51 said:
Withdrew my acceptance. Hope it goes to one of y'all. Good luck!
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Much appreciated!

From,

Someone who submitted late and is really hoping for some spots to open up since their class is technically full
 
cakesniffer said:
If you do call this person could you let us know what they respond?
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I think you're asking NYC2016 but since you quoted my response I won't leave you hanging! I actually interviewed here on Monday and called today. He said he expects seats to open up and at that point they will be able to extend more acceptances to their alternative list. Unsure what their status on IIs are tho so sorry I'm not any help with that. However, you should absolutely call/email Dr. Weir and he will provide you with valuable feedback on your app!
 
Has anyone called to ask about updates to their position on the waitlist? Can one even do that? lol
 
any secondaries left for me lol? Sent in my primary over a month ago
 
Any current students mind answering how many hours/week y’all have OMM for? Also are classes mandatory and letter grades or P/F?
 
lab2488 said:
Any current students mind answering how many hours/week y’all have OMM for? Also are classes mandatory and letter grades or P/F?
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We have OMM lab once a week for 2 hours. Every week we have lecture video's to watch beforehand as well as a quiz that is due the night before. Classes are P/F so no need to worry about letter grades showing up on your transcript. In terms of mandatory attendance, it depends on the class. For some classes (genetics, histology, physiology) attendance is optional, whereas for others (anatomy, biochemistry) it is required. The current lecture hall can only seat 1/2 the class, so some of us have to live stream the lectures from home. A new lecture hall that can seat 200+ is set to open next semester, so the school may look to make an adjustment to the attendance policy.
 
brockhamptonfanacct said:
Not yet. I'm waiting to hear back from another school but I'm trying to narrow down my current As and I have no idea where WCUCOM ranks on that list yet lol. I feel like I know a lot less about this school than my other As so I'm going to try to reach out to some current students!
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I second that I also know little about the school, except that the admins are all really kind.
 
Chuckles4lyfe said:
We have OMM lab once a week for 2 hours. Every week we have lecture video's to watch beforehand as well as a quiz that is due the night before. Classes are P/F so no need to worry about letter grades showing up on your transcript. In terms of mandatory attendance, it depends on the class. For some classes (genetics, histology, physiology) attendance is optional, whereas for others (anatomy, biochemistry) it is required. The current lecture hall can only seat 1/2 the class, so some of us have to live stream the lectures from home. A new lecture hall that can seat 200+ is set to open next semester, so the school may look to make an adjustment to the attendance policy.
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How do you feel about the school and Hattiesburg in general? Do you feel supported? and do you have enough time and resource for board prep? On the COCA, along with many other schools, WCUCOM's accreditation status is 'Accredited with heightened monitoring". I know that for MSUCOM they were given this status because of their lack of interprofessional course in the curriculum. Why would WCUCOM be under heightened monitoring?
 
Chuckles4lyfe said:
We have OMM lab once a week for 2 hours. Every week we have lecture video's to watch beforehand as well as a quiz that is due the night before. Classes are P/F so no need to worry about letter grades showing up on your transcript. In terms of mandatory attendance, it depends on the class. For some classes (genetics, histology, physiology) attendance is optional, whereas for others (anatomy, biochemistry) it is required. The current lecture hall can only seat 1/2 the class, so some of us have to live stream the lectures from home. A new lecture hall that can seat 200+ is set to open next semester, so the school may look to make an adjustment to the attendance policy.
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Would you be able to tell us which years are P/F? The last time I checked I saw that only years 3 and 4 had that system, but the first two years were graded on a latter scale (A-F).
 
leopard377a said:
Would you be able to tell us which years are P/F? The last time I checked I saw that only years 3 and 4 had that system, but the first two years were graded on a latter scale (A-F).
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If you're referring to the student handbook that is posted on the website, it is a bit outdated. We are graded P/F in years 1 and 2, but still have letter grades solely for the purpose of class rank. To my knowledge WCUCOM used to administer letter grades, but they have started to move towards P/F since the onset of the pandemic. In my opinion, it makes for a more collaborative learning environment.
 
Chuckles4lyfe said:
If you're referring to the student handbook that is posted on the website, it is a bit outdated. We are graded P/F in years 1 and 2, but still have letter grades solely for the purpose of class rank. To my knowledge WCUCOM used to administer letter grades, but they have started to move towards P/F since the onset of the pandemic. In my opinion, it makes for a more collaborative learning environment.
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I asked the associate dean and he said post covid it might go back to letter grades and stay in tune
 
aml868 said:
I asked the associate dean and he said post covid it might go back to letter grades and stay in tune
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Hi, as a current student that works closely with academic services and the academic deans, we are P/F and will continue to be P/F. It makes some people grumpy but it’s how it is and it alligns with level 1/step 1
 
Chuckles4lyfe said:
We have OMM lab once a week for 2 hours. Every week we have lecture video's to watch beforehand as well as a quiz that is due the night before. Classes are P/F so no need to worry about letter grades showing up on your transcript. In terms of mandatory attendance, it depends on the class. For some classes (genetics, histology, physiology) attendance is optional, whereas for others (anatomy, biochemistry) it is required. The current lecture hall can only seat 1/2 the class, so some of us have to live stream the lectures from home. A new lecture hall that can seat 200+ is set to open next semester, so the school may look to make an adjustment to the attendance policy.
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Thanks so much for your response! That helps a lot!
 
Lis207 said:
Hi, as a current student that works closely with academic services and the academic deans, we are P/F and will continue to be P/F. It makes some people grumpy but it’s how it is and it alligns with level 1/step 1
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thanks for your insight! curious why people are people grumpy about it?
 
So if I am interviewing let's say this coming week is that an auto waitlist at this point because the class is full and have to wait till december 14th so see what happens??
 
ellaevie said:
thanks for your insight! curious why people are people grumpy about it?
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Some faculty feel like it fails to help exceptional students stand out. Residency PD also don't like it because they can't screen for GPA. I've also heard an argument that us students "give up" on certain classes to work on harder ones. Personally, it feels to me like a classic case of people, especially doctors, not liking change.
 
FutureDoctor5000 said:
Lol y'all are delusional if you think residency PD's(in any specialty) screen applicants based on pre clinical gpa's. The people who match at competitive programs and specialties do well on boards but they also do well in clinical years and have great LOR's and research (case reports at at bare minimum) NO one cares about pre clinical grades and no one will even after step 1 goes P/F. Getting this info from alumni at Carey who matched at competitive places and specialties btw
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really appreciate this perspective! if you have a spare moment, do you feel like Carey resources you well with info on matching into competitive or at least non-family med/internal med specialities? or were those that did really left on their own to make it happen? i ask because relative to their class sizes and it being a relatively rural DO program, i’ve actually been pretty surprised how many have matched into ortho/general surgery/anesthesiology/i believe even a couple derm over the last few years?… someone from Carey matched to a program in my home state that i would LOVE to match in and i’m like how did you do that… was it just that persons connections or were they resourced well by the school?
 
I am interviewing this morning. I understand I’m interviewing for the waitlist but is it plausible that I could be on the waitlist for a day or 2 and then be accepted after the 14th??
 
FutureDoctor5000 said:
Lol y'all are delusional if you think residency PD's(in any specialty) screen applicants based on pre clinical gpa's. The people who match at competitive programs and specialties do well on boards but they also do well in clinical years and have great LOR's and research (case reports at at bare minimum) NO one cares about pre clinical grades and no one will even after step 1 goes P/F. Getting this info from alumni at Carey who matched at competitive places and specialties btw
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Oh, I 100% don't believe it, that's just what the faculty who hate P/F think. DO students match off of board scores and auditions, I think that's common knowledge. The secret to being a good medical student is to work hard, be prepared, and be friendly. There's no "secret" to success.
 
Is there an accepted student Facebook group for the class of 2026 yet? If so does anyone have the link to it
 
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