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detailgranola_ said:
Are they still accepting students off the waitlist?
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Idk, it’s getting late. I was told by admissions WL movement is still possible after May 15 CTE date all the way up until school starts but the SDN silence recently makes me think the bulk of movement is done. And Maybe they evaluated class size after the may 15 deadline they realized they are full so I’m starting to really lose hope.
 
Yah I think they’re done as well ☹️. In past threads movement was done by about this time… expecting an R soon. Sucks cuz I could’ve seen myself going here
 
Hitman964 said:
Yah I think they’re done as well ☹️. In past threads movement was done by about this time… expecting an R soon. Sucks cuz I could’ve seen myself going here
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I would think twice before going to any program such as Miami that has pre-clinical grading. Hopefully you got in somewhere which has pre-clinical P/F.
 
Agape_ornis said:
I read the handbook. Our grades are reported as pass/fail. In phase 1 which is preclinical only contributes 20% to quartile. I already talked to students and they said quartiles are not something to be concerned too much.
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Do you know what is a MSPE? If not, please read about it.

If you want to pursue a less competitive residency, it’s not a big deal. But if you are hoping to pursue a competitive specialty in a top academic medical center, every little thing matters and you have to be in the first quartile in the pre-clinical phase to maximize your odds.

As you can guess, the quartile ranking is a double edged sword. It offers an advantage to those that finish in the top quartile compared to students from purely P/F pre-clinical medical school. Those that don’t make it to the top quartile are at a disadvantage.
 
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ophthoaspirant said:
Do you know what is a MSPE? If not, please read about it.

If you want to pursue a less competitive residency, it’s not a big deal. But if you are hoping to pursue a competitive specialty in a top academic medical center, every little thing matters and you have to be in the first quartile in the pre-clinical phase to maximize your odds.

As you can guess, the quartile ranking is a double edged sword. It offers an advantage to those that finish in the top quartile compared to students from purely P/F pre-clinical medical school. Those that don’t make it to the top quartile are at a disadvantage.
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As an actual UMiami student I'm going to pop in to offer my 2 cents. Yes, there are quartiles, that's true, but here's some important grains of salt:

1. The biggest determinant of quartile rankings at Miami is not pre-clinical. Yes, it's 20%, which is something, but the vast majority lies in clinical (70%). So there's that. And at least in preclinical, since exams are relatively chill and straight forward it's challenging to score that much higher than the median consistently. I would not make yourself that stressed about getting a 100% on every exam, just do your best towards prepping for rotations and STEP, because that's what matters.
2. In the grand scheme of things, quartiles don't matter all that much. From talking with M4's who matched, quartiles are more or less one of those "nice to have" things, not a "must have." Frankly speaking, nobody will care about the difference between first and second quartile, it's negligible. The more important things are, and always will be, clinical rotations (our are grades H/HP/P/F), away rotations/networking/letters, STEP 2 and research. Frankly, I'd put quartiles on the importance list down there with AMA and GHSS — again, something nice to have, but I would not give up on your derm/ophtho/whatever dreams because you're not 1st quartile after M1.
3. We match well in everything. I don't know the specific breakdowns but at least in DR and IR (my top choice specialties) we had people match in from all 4 quartiles.
 
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AJS59 said:
As an actual UMiami student I'm going to pop in to offer my 2 cents. Yes, there are quartiles, that's true, but here's some important grains of salt:

1. The biggest determinant of quartile rankings at Miami is not pre-clinical. Yes, it's 20%, which is something, but the vast majority lies in clinical (70%). So there's that. And at least in preclinical, since exams are relatively chill and straight forward it's challenging to score that much higher than the median consistently. I would not make yourself that stressed about getting a 100% on every exam, just do your best towards prepping for rotations and STEP, because that's what matters.
2. In the grand scheme of things, quartiles don't matter all that much. From talking with M4's who matched, quartiles are more or less one of those "nice to have" things, not a "must have." Frankly speaking, nobody will care about the difference between first and second quartile, it's negligible. The more important things are, and always will be, clinical rotations (our are grades H/HP/P/F), away rotations/networking/letters, STEP 2 and research. Frankly, I'd put quartiles on the importance list down there with AMA and GHSS — again, something nice to have, but I would not give up on your derm/ophtho/whatever dreams because you're not 1st quartile after M1.
3. We match well in everything. I don't know the specific breakdowns but at least in DR and IR (my top choice specialties) we had people match in from all 4 quartiles.
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When you are trying to match derm/ophtho, everything matters including preclinical. Even if the exam scores range is narrow as you say, they will still divide that range into quartiles. It might not matter a whole lot, but I would much rather go to a true pre-clinical P/F medical school unless its ranking is far below another school that has pre-clinical quartiles/other student ranking.
 
ophthoaspirant said:
When you are trying to match derm/ophtho, everything matters including preclinical. Even if the exam scores range is narrow as you say, they will still divide that range into quartiles. It might not matter a whole lot, but I would much rather go to a true pre-clinical P/F medical school unless its ranking is far below another school that has pre-clinical quartiles/other student ranking.
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Sure, but the vast majority of people aren't trying to go for derm/ophtho. Even for other "more competitive" specialties (anesthesia, rads, gen surg, etc.) I'd say quartiles don't really matter at all.
 
ophthoaspirant said:
When you are trying to match derm/ophtho, everything matters including preclinical. Even if the exam scores range is narrow as you say, they will still divide that range into quartiles. It might not matter a whole lot, but I would much rather go to a true pre-clinical P/F medical school unless its ranking is far below another school that has pre-clinical quartiles/other student ranking.
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Most of the separation in the quartile rankings occurs during the clinical year, as it is the case for many other schools
 
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