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Two options: zig is firmly village or zig is the more important wolf.
or there were wolves on the Dina lynch that they were hoping to get some credit for.

Does not clear genny in the slightest imo, because as I said when I originally posted night result stuff, genny likes to use things like blocking on other members of the pack in early game.
Dangit. Now I can’t do that for a while. :yeahright:
 
While I'm sitting here waiting to be killed*...

@mizchiefmanaged wanna talk to me about these posts?
I’m really uncomfortable right now
I really hate possible endgame ties because I tend to choke and pick the wrong person.
If only, amiright?!
I LIKE being a villager. I like the mystery and the problem solving. But I HATEHATEHATE this part of it with a flaming passion. Subterfuge exhausts me.
I’m pissed.
Specifically, why the comment about subterfuge (I didn't see any deceit from my side of things...) and why the immediate pissed reaction to a wolf lynch.

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*2 for 1 special @ pippy's tonight! 🙂
 
@Animal Midwife forgive comments from the lazy peanut gallery here but I think you have some gaps/errors in your D2 lynch tracker around the time the Sporty lynch drops back down to 3. At least, I am confused about how some votes appear to jump.
Yes, I'm starting to drift in and out of consciousness, so it's unlikely to be finished tonight, I think. Hopefully corrected that though.
 
Also, I think it would be defeat the purpose of making a wolf untrackable if the words were changed to allow the tracker to find the untrackable wolf.
I can only imagine wolf chat right now

But anyway I'm perusing a Dina iso and it's giving me weird feelings about SOV

hmmm

lynch SOV
This vote in particular stood out to me because there wasn't a ton of posts or game activity that was discussing SOV preceding it, the only other person on the lynch at the time was pips, and Dina had made several questioning comments about SOV before and after this day. Made me wonder if the wolves anticipated he would likely get lynched early eventually due to suspicion about the low participation/vote sheeping +/- being seered early as a veteran player that's hard to read and wanted to lay down some cred early by pointing at occasional one-off correct votes on him early in the game. It's obviously a tinfoil but combined with the weird role claim that we have yet to corroborate (I believe) it makes me more suspicious overall.

What part of that was clear? If it was so clear then why did Mel vote for mayo instead?

I don't have many thoughts on mayo because they haven't been super active. I thought they did some sketchy things in the first few days that I pointed out but wrote it off as them being a new player. Then they sort of fell off my radar.

I'd probably pick mutts today. She hasn't struck me as village all game so I was leaning towards 3P until yesterday.

I also want to know why @AccidentFromFlorida switched off of Mutts to Mel last minute yesterday.
This direct tag of afflac also made me feel weird. I think it's the first time she tagged a player to question them all game, as she normally replied to posts from them instead. Afflac's lurky voting behavior and popping up at the very end of lynches to try to offload ties already makes me feel weird about him, though. I feel like everyone reading him village just keeps bringing up that his reaction to mpm's initial death felt genuine but that was days ago and also not super affiliation indicative to me. I dunno, I'm probably overthinking it, but I'll probably iso him too tomorrow.

I want to see more of the vote tracker from AM tomorrow and mull it over but my vote is likely going to SOV
 
By this I mean you claimed you had a 3x ability seering ability and you claimed that you just so happened to only start using it like 5+ days into the game which is BS because who does that
Now you’re claiming you have a number of one off abilities and just so happened not to start using them until last night?
And if your reads were fuzzy, why didn’t you use the seering ability you claim to have to help with this?
Yeah this has BS written all over it

###lynch kras###
I would just like to point out that this remains an atrociously wolfy post upon re-read.

Last line is 100% certified lupine.
 
Contingency Lynch Ziggy

Quick re-read basically just cemented for me that 2 wolves were up today, they tried a ghosting strategy, it bombed, and she flipped it at the buzzer so they both didn't die in a tie.
 
I can only imagine wolf chat right now

But anyway I'm perusing a Dina iso and it's giving me weird feelings about SOV


This vote in particular stood out to me because there wasn't a ton of posts or game activity that was discussing SOV preceding it, the only other person on the lynch at the time was pips, and Dina had made several questioning comments about SOV before and after this day. Made me wonder if the wolves anticipated he would likely get lynched early eventually due to suspicion about the low participation/vote sheeping +/- being seered early as a veteran player that's hard to read and wanted to lay down some cred early by pointing at occasional one-off correct votes on him early in the game. It's obviously a tinfoil but combined with the weird role claim that we have yet to corroborate (I believe) it makes me more suspicious overall.


This direct tag of afflac also made me feel weird. I think it's the first time she tagged a player to question them all game, as she normally replied to posts from them instead. Afflac's lurky voting behavior and popping up at the very end of lynches to try to offload ties already makes me feel weird about him, though. I feel like everyone reading him village just keeps bringing up that his reaction to mpm's initial death felt genuine but that was days ago and also not super affiliation indicative to me. I dunno, I'm probably overthinking it, but I'll probably iso him too tomorrow.

I want to see more of the vote tracker from AM tomorrow and mull it over but my vote is likely going to SOV
Meats I think it's cute that you think I'm going to read your posts like they are real lol
 
(which section is it, so I know where to carefully re-scan in the morning?)
Oh I went to go look for this earlier and then forgot & now am on phone. It was right after sporty dropped down to 3 votes from 4 -- you have Dina and SOV on sporty and then both of them on Meats like one line down, and then it goes back to them being on Sporty
 
Read through last night’s posts, and that seemed bizarre. And ziggy who is a posting machine was strangely absent. Seems pretty blatant, but I will reserve judgement until I finish going through her 100 posts or so .....
 
Finished Ziggy iso....mainly fluff, annoying to have to wade through that (although irrelevant) Not a lot of hard accusations or reads IMO.

This stuff stuck out though:
Even if I was a blocker, why would I out my role? Again, what’s with the fishing?
Even if I was blocked, why would I tell you?
You honestly think 3 people might have been blocked last night? (If whatever the slime thing is is considered blocking)
What’s your strong reason to believe the blocking is wolfy again
Aren’t you the one who is always saying there can be multiples of the same/similar role as villager or wolf and not to use that to find alignment?? Like I’ve literally heard you say that multiple times lol.
This is pretty unconvincing tbh. Blockers can be villagers or wolves.
Are you claiming vig? Idk why you keep talking about shooting people
Sounds to me like Ziggy is our blocker. Otherwise why try so hard to defend the role?
 
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Day 7 Gaming Abounds Lynch Tally
ziggy (1) - Pippy

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Lynch deadline at 9e/6p (~10.5 hours)

please feel free to post beloved music or games in appropriate spoilers.

Mario Kart break? Brother and I nearly killed each other in anger numerous times. Mostly me with steam while he laughed. 😡

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While I'm sitting here waiting to be killed*...

@mizchiefmanaged wanna talk to me about these posts?





Specifically, why the comment about subterfuge (I didn't see any deceit from my side of things...) and why the immediate pissed reaction to a wolf lynch.

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*2 for 1 special @ pippy's tonight! 🙂
When zig posted literally right at deadline with a vote for Dina after not being around for hours I naturally assumed that she was a wolf that got a villager lynched and that game was over.

I meant I hate the subterfuge of being a wolf.

**this is green my phone sucks**
 
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Night 6

January 3, 1999
1:45 PM


After Rick's car failed, he stayed back to recruit a friend to help him jump it. He told Amy that there wouldn't still be enough time to make the drive up today. She told him that she'd find another way.
Amy was, if nothing else, exceptionally stubborn and liked to do things as soon as the inspiration hit. A damning trait, this would lead her to attempt to hitchhike rather than return empty handed to her friends.
She took a thick coat from Rick's closet and left to walk to the on-ramp of I-5. Perhaps not knowing exactly where she was going, she knew at least she had to go north and this was the way to do it. She stood with her thumb out as she believed was the norm and waited. A few minutes later, a car stopped, and the middle-aged male driver asked if she was okay. She told him that she was fine and where she was going. He wished her well but said he wasn't heading that way. Two more similar interactions: once with a married couple, and then again with another older man, neither ultimately stopping to help. After about half an hour of waiting, another car stopped. This one she wished had not; it was the cops.
The officer told her that hitchhiking was illegal on the freeways. He asked her for identification, which she was not able to present.
"Where do you live?"
"My home is in Pullman. That's eastern Washington."
"I know where Pullman is. Were you planning to hitchhike all the way back?"
"No, I don't have a car and I'm trying to get to Stanwood."
"Stanwood? That's a bit far from here. Your friends or family in Stanwood can't give you a ride?"
She felt as if she would be walking in to a trap if she told him why she was going up there.
"I... Lost my phone. Can't call them."
"Alright. Well, we have a phone at the station. You can come with me and make the call there."
"No, really, Officer, that's---"
"Ma'am, I'm going to insist."
He stepped out of the vehicle and asked for her hands. He cuffed her and escorted her to the back of his squad car.
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At the station, she was allowed to make one phone call. Of course, since her bluff was completely false and she had no friends or family up in Stanwood to call, she resorted to her only option: Rick. As embarrassing as it was for her, she asked to make her call and dialed his home number.
After a few rings he picked up.
"Hello?"
"Rick? It's Amy."
"Amy? What's up?"
"I accidentally got in to some trouble. Sorry, I know you have to leave soon but is there any chance you could come get me at the police station?"
There was a long pause.
"The police station? Yeah, okay, I'll be there soon."
There was another pause. "You're something else, Amy."
"Thanks, Rick."
She heard a click and handed the phone back to the attending officer. They escorted her to a cell where she waited with several other women. Based solely on look, she thought druggies or prostitutes.
Rick showed up about an hour later and she was released.
They didn't speak a word until they got out to a truck.
Once inside, Rick explained.
"The Aerostar is busted. A friend loaned me this for this special occasion. To what do I owe the pleasure of this ride for?"
"I tried hitchhiking." Amy told him, trying to maintain her composure.
Rick lowered his chin and gaze down to his chest and rubbed his temples, though she heard a quiet chuckle escape.
"Dammit, Amy."
They drove away and sat in silence the rest of the way back.
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4:19 PM

They got back and went inside. The TV was playing in the background.
Amy noticed what was playing and groaned. "Oh, this show..."
"What? You don't like All That? I know it can be a little crude at times, but it has its moments, don't you think?."
"Yeah, well, I find it to be pretty unsophisticated."
"Really? Okay, how about the Goodburger movie? Did you watch that one?"
Amy tried not to give away that she didn't remember its plot. "Rick, Goodburger is so juvenile. That's my opinion."
Dead is
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@Animal Midwife Staff at Goodburger, vanilla

"Kenan's sense of humor matured a lot on Saturday Night Live, but even on there I think the laughs are forced."
"What are you talking about? I've never seen Kenan on SNL."
Amy was frozen, realizing her mistake. She tried backtracking. "Huh? Kenan isn't on SNL."
"Amy, you just said his humor matured on Saturday Night Live. Who were you referring to?"
"Oh... uhm... Actually, I don't know what I was saying.
Rick pretended to shrug it off, but Amy could tell he was suspicious of her now.
"Well, you change it to whatever you want. Or turn it off. I have to get going now."
She sat on the couch and Rick promptly walked right back out.

It is now Day 7. Lynch will close at 6 PM PST (9 PM EST)


11 Players Remain

1. @ziggyandjazzy
5. @genny
9. @holdthemayo
11. @mypetmoose in for Navilly
12. @muttmanager
15. @cubsrule4e
16. @AccidentFromFlorida
17. @vetmedhead
20. @mizchiefmanaged
22. @PippyPony
23. @StartingoverVet

Lost in Time Forever:
2. acanthuroidei, face, pic sender
10. mypetmoose #1, microsoft maze, jailer
3. msprocrastinator, clippy, vanilla
8. wildzoo, 90s Journalist, writeup editor
21. alissa, sony walkman, vanilla
14. sportponies, baby sinclair, vanilla
7. kraskadava, pink power ranger, joat
13. barkley, neverhood, lynch controller
19. melchizedek, ford aerostar, tracker
6. jboose, fotomat employee, psychic
4. dinashadow, sid's creepy toys, untrackable
18. Animal midwife, staff at goodburger, vanilla
 
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When zig posted literally right at deadline with a vote for Dina after not being around for hours I naturally assumed that she was a wolf that got a villager lynched and that game was over.

I meant I hate the subterfuge of being a wolf.

**this is green my phone sucks**
When I left my house I had two votes... I came back and realized I was up for lynch and feverishly tried to scroll through to actually find a tally. There were loads of posts after this that weren’t even about the topic (now I know how annoying it is lmao) so I didn’t even know what the tally was when I voted. I did the best I could given the scenario :shrug:
FWIW ...ziggy came back as dojo hound.
What the **** is that even supposed to mean lol
 
FWIW ...ziggy came back as dojo hound.
She is at least not the blocker unless @vetmedhead is lying about the sliming (green text or slime gifs) being a vanillizer, because I was blocked again last night.

@muttmanager was also slimed so may be able to confirm but she was largely MIA yesterday when not under fire.
 
She is at least not the blocker unless @vetmedhead is lying about the sliming (green text or slime gifs) being a vanillizer, because I was blocked again last night.

@muttmanager was also slimed so may be able to confirm but she was largely MIA yesterday when not under fire.
Weird, because if Ziggy is village, holding off on the block on you for the night while she was slimed would have been a solid wolf move to frame her/move the suspicion of her way up

Of course there's still a million ways to interpret you being blocked anyway depending on how deep your tinfoil goes
 
FWIW I am almost at the point of moving SOV village regardless of role oddities. I do not believe he would sit in wolf chat and continue to allow blocks on a single player night after night after night.

Find it hard to believe that any of the veterans would be ok with that, tbh.

And I can say for sure that the blocking is wolfy. Zero chance a villager is behind that.
 
She is at least not the blocker unless @vetmedhead is lying about the sliming (green text or slime gifs) being a vanillizer, because I was blocked again last night.

@muttmanager was also slimed so may be able to confirm but she was largely MIA yesterday when not under fire.

Yes, I was vanilla for a night, no one got their overdue notice n5. Um rood, everyone was pretty quiet yesterday

Tinfoil- It probably didnt make chaos (vmh) vanilla
 
Yes, I was vanilla for a night, no one got their overdue notice n5. Um rood, everyone was pretty quiet yesterday

Tinfoil- It probably didnt make chaos (vmh) vanilla
Why do you believe that a role would function differently on a third party when she has been handing her items out to villagers and there was no item claimed

Again -- the description of the item I got does align with something that just needs to be in possession at end game
 
Weird, because if Ziggy is village, holding off on the block on you for the night while she was slimed would have been a solid wolf move to frame her/move the suspicion of her way up
And yes, well.

We've established that these wolves are a pack of cowards, so don't hold your breath for any actual nuance in the strategy here.
 
FWIW wolfies, I balance my items like a respectable player and the one last night had a chance of winning you the game when AM used it because it allowed for % chance rez-as-wolf

The item I made for Kras would have given you a double pack kill

So don't blame me for shading your choices when you miss out on opportunities by being boring-sauce
 
Ziggy and Dina were posting back to back at multiple stages throughout the game, which is suggestive of pack.

Not a slam dunk wolf tell, but certainly did not make me move her any lower in the list last night upon re-read of Dina's content.
 
@cubsrule4e should remember watching me get after the wolves in French quarter for that.

Other posting/like patterns I have seen have been mayo-Afflac, afflac-mpm (makes sense if they are in the same house) and Miz-ziggy-cubs, although they were not as prominent as the Dina-ziggy one in my mind. But perhaps something to look at later.
 
SOV's posts stand alone

VMH's posts stand (relatively) alone - she posts in bursts as any affiliation though

genny is all over the map; so is Mutts (mutts seems more tied to direct mentions, genny appears to be on a work schedule, although her early game absence still bothers be quite a bit)

I exclude AM from any analysis of that sort of thing
 
She is at least not the blocker unless @vetmedhead is lying about the sliming (green text or slime gifs) being a vanillizer, because I was blocked again last night.

@muttmanager was also slimed so may be able to confirm but she was largely MIA yesterday when not under fire.

Speaking of mutts, she has dropped off the radar the last few days, but did we ever get a consensus on her action? Last I saw it had no real utility? Cause I got some late movie return thing sent to me last night from her.
 
Not interpreting the blocking itself, interpreting the fact that you were still blocked despite Ziggy being vanilla-ized
I still see one single interpretation of that lol

It does not really influence my affiliation read on mayo or any of the players who have so far been slimed. Could have been a pack attempt to make Ziggy look more village that is now kinda backfiring, could align with Mayo being village and targeting people he thinks are wolfy.
 
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