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Has anyone seen/heard of any waitlist movement? For a waitlist of a whopping 350 people, I expect nothing from them to be honest.
 
dubai0521 said:
Has anyone seen/heard of any waitlist movement? For a waitlist of a whopping 350 people, I expect nothing from them to be honest.
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Prob won't hear anything till mid/late April at the earliest, at least for the big movement.
 
I hope I'm not the only one who is skeptical about the waitlist actually being 350 people. I understand they've historically had a high turnover rate of accepted students but having a waitlist nearly twice the size of the matriculating class is nonsense. Have we heard this directly from the admissions board or is it just a rumor flying around?
 
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I hope I'm not the only one who is skeptical about the waitlist actually being 350 people. I understand they've historically had a high turnover rate of accepted students but having a waitlist nearly twice the size of the matriculating class is nonsense. Have we heard this directly from the admissions board or is it just a rumor flying around?
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One of the admissions directors said it during the reapplication workshop
 
GatmonLittel said:
I hope I'm not the only one who is skeptical about the waitlist actually being 350 people. I understand they've historically had a high turnover rate of accepted students but having a waitlist nearly twice the size of the matriculating class is nonsense. Have we heard this directly from the admissions board or is it just a rumor flying around?
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Yes I am VERY skeptical about that.

I would NOT put any hope into the waitlist at all to be honest. During the reapplicant workshop, they mentioned admitting 20 more people than the 202-person class size this year—meaning they’ll consider those individuals first before addressing the waitlist.
 
This is 100% for me and self serving venting, but OSU has treated me so well in the application cycle (not overpromising with timelines and getting info back in a timely manner, incredible in-person interview with multiple people (even fed us lunch!), and just general transparency) that I am so turned off by OU. I understand the whole MD vs DO concern and opportunity cost depending on specialty interest, but goodness has this cycle left a sour taste in my mouth. I am so sorry to everyone that also bet on in state bias at our ONE in state MD school. Best of luck to you all—we will all be doctors soon enough. <3
 
Hi all,

I'm currently deciding between Oklahoma and one other school. I don't really know too much about OU, and I was wondering what anyone who goes there or has experience with them knows about it. Do you enjoy it there? How is the staff? Does OU have a good rep nationally?

Thanks!
 
shenandoah2003 said:
Hi all,

I'm currently deciding between Oklahoma and one other school. I don't really know too much about OU, and I was wondering what anyone who goes there or has experience with them knows about it. Do you enjoy it there? How is the staff? Does OU have a good rep nationally?

Thanks!
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Congrats on a successful cycle. OU announced a whole new program, incl handling of admissions, part way into this cycle. You can read the prior posts on here as the cycle unfolded for more info. The curriculum approach will be completely different than before. FWIW, I went with another choice.
 
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Out of curiosity, did anyone else receive an email from OUHSC about their FAFSA being received on March 17th despite being on the WL? Didn't say anything about an actual award amount just that there was no other action needed to be taken at this time. Could very much be an automated email though not meaning anything...
 
Jenniferismydog said:
This is 100% for me and self serving venting, but OSU has treated me so well in the application cycle (not overpromising with timelines and getting info back in a timely manner, incredible in-person interview with multiple people (even fed us lunch!), and just general transparency) that I am so turned off by OU. I understand the whole MD vs DO concern and opportunity cost depending on specialty interest, but goodness has this cycle left a sour taste in my mouth. I am so sorry to everyone that also bet on in state bias at our ONE in state MD school. Best of luck to you all—we will all be doctors soon enough. <3
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Honestly have had the exact same experience and feelings this cycle. Totally understand where you’re coming from
 
greenfuzzypeople said:
Out of curiosity, did anyone else receive an email from OUHSC about their FAFSA being received on March 17th despite being on the WL? Didn't say anything about an actual award amount just that there was no other action needed to be taken at this time. Could very much be an automated email though not meaning anything...
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I also did, yes.
 
dubai0521 said:
Yes I am VERY skeptical about that.

I would NOT put any hope into the waitlist at all to be honest. During the reapplicant workshop, they mentioned admitting 20 more people than the 202-person class size this year—meaning they’ll consider those individuals first before addressing the waitlist.
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My sister is a current M2 at OU-Tulsa and she got confirmation that there were currently 200 people on the WL
 
I've seen a lot of negativity on this page and just wanted to give an experience from the opposite POV. I had nothing but positive interactions with the people on admissions, my interviewers, and the people that gave me a tour. They have been very lenient with me in planning a visit there. They have been very straightforward in their expectations for me and what the next steps are. I'm sorry so many others have had a bad experience with OU, but thought I'd give a different opinion
 
dubai0521 said:
oh ok thanks! first admissions said 350 people are on the waitlist in the reapp workshop, now they're saying 200 idk anymore honestly...
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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people dropped off after getting other acceptances, considering that first figure would've been back in like February.
 
Okay so I'm confused. Are the waitlists for Tulsa and OKC actually the same list???

Are these 200-350 people waitlisted for OKC? or Tulsa? or Both?

I know for a fact that they interviewed less people for Tulsa than OKC so how does that even work?
 
Pumpkinatoric said:
Okay so I'm confused. Are the waitlists for Tulsa and OKC actually the same list???

Are these 200-350 people waitlisted for OKC? or Tulsa? or Both?

I know for a fact that they interviewed less people for Tulsa than OKC so how does that even work?
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1. I don't think so because my waitlist only says OKC and that's all I interviewed for.
2. I would probably say closer to 200 as that 300 number was from over a month ago, so a lot could have changed, as someone mentioned earlier.
 
Yes, but I have not received any sort of extra communication with regards to a Tulsa waitlist even though I interviewed with them and chose to be waitlisted for them too.

So I am just unsure about how many people are on the Tulsa waitlist vs OKC waitlist.
 
Pumpkinatoric said:
Yes, but I have not received any sort of extra communication with regards to a Tulsa waitlist even though I interviewed with them and chose to be waitlisted for them too.

So I am just unsure about how many people are on the Tulsa waitlist vs OKC waitlist.
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I’d assume it’s likely only going to be for OKC. If there is a Tulsa specific waitlist, offers would probably be given to applicants that have been admitted to OKC but not Tulsa before they’d be given to students not admitted at all. Just considering that admission to Tulsa only follows admission to OKC
 
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I’d assume it’s likely only going to be for OKC. If there is a Tulsa specific waitlist, offers would probably be given to applicants that have been admitted to OKC but not Tulsa before they’d be given to students not admitted at all. Just considering that admission to Tulsa only follows admission to OKC
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That's a really good point.

It's just all very confusing because that means Tulsa basically has 2 waitlists: 1. for people already accepted into OKC and 2. for people waitlisted for OKC (like me) and they're not tapping into waitlist #2 until they've exhausted waitlist #1

I emailed the admissions office a couple days earlier about this whole thing but they gave me the generic "unfortunately we cannot share any details about the waitlist" runaround.
 
Pumpkinatoric said:
That's a really good point.

It's just all very confusing because that means Tulsa basically has 2 waitlists: 1. for people already accepted into OKC and 2. for people waitlisted for OKC (like me) and they're not tapping into waitlist #2 until they've exhausted waitlist #1

I emailed the admissions office a couple days earlier about this whole thing but they gave me the generic "unfortunately we cannot share any details about the waitlist" runaround.
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Admissions are not being helpful at all with this and were actually condescending to me when I asked a few days ago (my email was very respectfully written btw), which makes me think if i should actually even consider this place given my other A from another school. I emailed them a few days ago and they basically told me to never contact them again on this matter. In their own words, they said “these messages from our waitlisted applicants have become excessively burdensome” and hinted that any further emails from me would be “summarily deleted, without response.” Seriously?! That’s not just rude, it’s insulting and completely unprofessional. Seems to me that they treat their waitlisted applications terribly when I literally just asked a simple question. Makes me wonder how they will treat you as a student paying tons of tuition.
 
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Admissions are not being helpful at all with this and were actually condescending to me when I asked a few days ago in a respectful way too, which makes me think if i should actually even consider this place given my other A from another school. I emailed them a few days ago and they basically told me to not contact them again on this matter. VERY RUDE!
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Yes, they were very rude to me too except I called them a week ago and the person who picked up treated me like I was committing some unspeakable crime by asking about my waitlist status. They basically barked at me to never call them again. I’ve never been spoken to so rudely by any professional institution, let alone a medical school that supposedly prides itself on training compassionate doctors. VERY CONCERNING!

My sister is an MS3 in the OKC track and she's been warning me about even bigger problems behind the scenes. She told me that key professors and administrators, who med students have relied on for years, have recently left and a lot of new people are taking over next year. She also told me that since there will be a brand new curriculum rolling over next year, that the MODs (small support groups) OU prides itself in will not be useful since it will be completely different, making the work even tougher than previous years. She told me that she overheard administrators saying this whole curriculum thing is an "experiment" for next year's students. Seriously, who wants to pay med school tuition to be someone’s guinea pig? She’s also hearing a lot of worry among her classmates about how the new curriculum aligns with board content. Some critical topics are reportedly going to be crammed into shorter blocks with this new plan, leaving students scrambling to fill in the gaps on their own.

In fact, my own interaction with OU’s admissions office was discouraging, but my sister says it doesn’t stop there like that students sometimes feel their concerns aren’t taken seriously and are frequently dismissed, which causes a lot of frustration. It’s really alarming to think about spending four years, and a ton of tuition, at a place that seems this chaotic.

I’m just putting this out there so people can make an informed decision. Between the rude admissions staff, the mass leave of important professors, the ‘experimental’ curriculum, and the administration’s dismissive attitude, it seems like it will be an absolute nightmare for next year students. After all these red flags, I think OU Med is a huge risk for the incoming class and even my sister agrees too and strongly advises me to go somewhere else.
 
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Oh wow, this is downright terrifying! What your sister said really opened my eyes, especially. But I can confirm this since a lot of my upper classmates on the OKC track said the exact same thing is happening and will only get worse next year. One of them even mentioned that key faculty just vanished in the middle of a semester without warning, leaving students scrambling. I’m not sure it’s worth the stress or thousands of dollars in tuition when other schools seem far more organized and supportive and kinder to their matriculants.

In fact, someone I knew was laughed at when asking about scholarships which the admissions rep said "If you’re worried about money, maybe medicine isn’t for you" and another friend who was waitlisted called them in late Feb for any updates and they said this verbatim "Don’t call again, we have better things to do than cater to waitlisted applicants." I honestly do not know who they think they are to treat students like this.

MAJOR RED FLAGS!!!
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Yeah like even my own sister, who’s currently an MS3 at OU, has practically begged me not to enroll there. She was originally thrilled at the idea of having me join her, but after seeing the incoming changes for next year and how much of a mess it is, she’s telling me it’s just not worth the misery. If even someone on the inside, who always wants me by her side, says this place is going to be a nightmare for next year’s first-year students, that alone should be a massive red flag for anyone considering matriculating to OU.
 
I was thinking that haha. I have had nothing but positive feedback experiences after being accepted in Feb. I spoke with financial aid a couple weeks back because I was really concerned with how loans work. She took about 20 minutes on the phone and thoroughly explained how financial aid works for graduate school and exactly how much I’ll be able to take out in fafsa and graduate plus loans. I was extremely relieved after that phone call. I also have heard positive feedback from current medical students saying that OU would never jeopardize their high reputation over a curriculum change. How students perform on step 1 and 2 directly impact OU’s reputation and funding. I do not think they will leave us out to dry completely. I will know more soon after the preview day for admitted students April5th when they should be discussing our curriculum and academic schedule. Also they are changing the laws on how medical schools report “match” data ..basically making it more clear about who matched top choice and who has to SOAP. This is a good change and will make it easier for pre-med students to pick a school. My point though is with that change, OU will not be making changes that will make their students bomb their board exams and thus not match to their preferred residency programs. I do listen to the concerns and take it into consideration, but I do think there is some hearsay going on as well. The admissions board have reached out to me and said if I have ANY questions at all regarding curriculum changes I can ask away. That came from the director of admissions too.. anyways that’s my two cents on the matter.
 
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I was thinking that haha. I have had nothing but positive feedback experiences after being accepted in Feb. I spoke with financial aid a couple weeks back because I was really concerned with how loans work. She took [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]] minutes on the phone and thoroughly explained how financial aid works for graduate school and exactly how much I’ll be able to take out in fafsa and graduate plus loans. I was extremely relieved after that phone call. I also have heard positive feedback from current medical students saying that OU would never jeopardize their high reputation over a curriculum change. How students perform on step [emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]] and step [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]] directly impact OU’s reputation and funding. I do not think they will leave us out to dry completely. I will know more soon after the preview day for admitted students April [emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]th when they should be discussing our curriculum and academic schedule. Also in [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]]] they are changing the laws on how medical schools report “match” data ..basically making it more clear about who matched top choice and who has to SOAP. This is a good change and will make it easier for pre-med students to pick a school. My point though is with that change, OU will not be making changes that will make their students bomb their board exams and thus not match to their preferred residency programs. I do listen to the concerns and take it into consideration, but I do think there is some hearsay going on as well. The admissions board have reached out to me and said if I have ANY questions at all regarding curriculum changes I can ask away. That came from the director of admissions too.. anyways that’s my two cents on the matter.
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What are the dynamic trio and their bosses doing that is so important the place can't communicate something clear and solid about all this to all applicants in an email blast ...and actually do their jobs and be civil and professional. "Chosen liaison to SDN" stuff ain't gonna cut it with most I suspect. Most aren't even on here at all. (fwiw - using the phone isn't ideal for the site, as ya probably know now).
 
MythicalSims said:
I was thinking that haha. I have had nothing but positive feedback experiences after being accepted in Feb. I spoke with financial aid a couple weeks back because I was really concerned with how loans work. She took about 20 minutes on the phone and thoroughly explained how financial aid works for graduate school and exactly how much I’ll be able to take out in fafsa and graduate plus loans. I was extremely relieved after that phone call. I also have heard positive feedback from current medical students saying that OU would never jeopardize their high reputation over a curriculum change. How students perform on step 1 and 2 directly impact OU’s reputation and funding. I do not think they will leave us out to dry completely. I will know more soon after the preview day for admitted students April5th when they should be discussing our curriculum and academic schedule. Also they are changing the laws on how medical schools report “match” data ..basically making it more clear about who matched top choice and who has to SOAP. This is a good change and will make it easier for pre-med students to pick a school. My point though is with that change, OU will not be making changes that will make their students bomb their board exams and thus not match to their preferred residency programs. I do listen to the concerns and take it into consideration, but I do think there is some hearsay going on as well. The admissions board have reached out to me and said if I have ANY questions at all regarding curriculum changes I can ask away. That came from the director of admissions too.. anyways that’s my two cents on the matter.
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I suspect accepted students are indeed having a better experience than those waitlisted. But how a school treats waitlisted students also matters and may reveal more about the school, especially here where they’ve placed so many on it. And I’ve also seen students on here say that the information that conflicts with what admissions says is “hearsay” (I don’t think that means what you think it means) - for example, admissions flatly denied that any students at their tours received their OU admissions score, while I can specifically say that they did bc I was one of them. So, I don’t place a lot of faith in what admissions says now. It’s great that you’re accepted. I was waitlisted but have acceptances from two other schools and will be choosing one of those. But prior to minimizing the experience of not only those waitlisted but also, applicants in general this year, considering context might be important.
 
I want to offer a different point of view. I have only heard positive comments from current students, past students, and professors. OUCOM is an incredible school for SO many reasons. The faculty truly care about you and want you to succeed. When I originally heard about the new curriculum, I was very nervous to be the first class with this new curriculum. I have also spoken with current professors and physicians who are very involved with OUCOM, and they are all so excited for this new curriculum. Numerous close friends who are current students have told me how much better it will be for this new class, and they wish they had it this curriculum. Physicians (some involved with OU, some not) have informed me that this new curriculum will help immensely with matching into competitive residencies, and this is why so many schools are switching to this type of curriculum. I hate seeing all of the negativity, so I just wanted to let people know what I have heard about this school and new curriculum.
 
wrldtrvlr said:
I want to offer a different point of view. I have only heard positive comments from current students, past students, and professors. OUCOM is an incredible school for SO many reasons. The faculty truly care about you and want you to succeed. When I originally heard about the new curriculum, I was very nervous to be the first class with this new curriculum. I have also spoken with current professors and physicians who are very involved with OUCOM, and they are all so excited for this new curriculum. Numerous close friends who are current students have told me how much better it will be for this new class, and they wish they had it this curriculum. Physicians (some involved with OU, some not) have informed me that this new curriculum will help immensely with matching into competitive residencies, and this is why so many schools are switching to this type of curriculum. I hate seeing all of the negativity, so I just wanted to let people know what I have heard about this school and new curriculum.
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All well and good but when you treat applicants, and those on your WL, like hot garbage ... it speaks volumes.
 
901shelby said:
Is this 4D chess to get people to leave the waitlist? 🤔
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Uh seriously, I was writing this on here to help you guys about what is going on from my sister's perspective who goes to OU behind the doors. I was just trying to be real and genuine and helpful. That is rude of you to say after typing all this out to inform others.
 
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Is this 4D chess to get people to leave the waitlist? 🤔
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No...they are not. My friends that go there to OU on the OKC track have been saying the exact same thing as what @apart_fun3833 is saying. I honestly do not think it's fair or nice to accuse someone, just because you were accepted, who is kind enough to be offering and typing out this much information about what is going on behind the doors at OU for us waitlisted applicants.
 
I think both sides have weight to them. Of course those who plan to attend OU in the fall want to have faith in the program; and those waitlisted will rightfully be frustrated. There may be issues with OU, but it is unlikely next years class will be completely screwed over. As with any change, there are growing pains and controversy. We can only hope that the preview day will give us peace of mind and clarity as to what the future of OU Med entails.
 
I think it is also important to note that the changes they are making to clinical years is also going into effect for class of 2028. My friend who is an MS1 currently did say he will be seeing these changes to his clinical years. Soo yes we will be guinea pigs for the pre-clinical education changes but not for the rotation changes..which seems very comforting. That being said, I have 1 other acceptance I am holding until after I hear what they have to say at preview day, so I understand the worry and have spent a lot of time thinking about it all. I do wish they would be more transparent with the waitlist from what I’ve read on here. There should be a large movement after April 30th when people commit to schools they have acceptances at on AMCAS.
 
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Is this 4D chess to get people to leave the waitlist? 🤔
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Also, I have already fully committed to my dream MD school in Texas and have withdrawn from all my waitlists including OU. No secret agenda here, just being transparent according to what my sister said was happening. If what you are accusing me for is the case, just because you were accepted, I wouldn’t waste my time posting in this group chat--I'm just sharing what I know since I feel that everyone deserves to know what is going on and thought that it would be helpful to keep in mind for all of you guys! I wish everyone best of luck!
 
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Also, I have already fully committed to my dream MD school in Texas and have withdrawn from all my waitlists including OU. No secret agenda here, just being transparent according to what my sister said was happening. If what you are accusing me for is the case, I wouldn’t waste my time posting in this group chat--I'm just sharing what I know that would be helpful to all of you guys. I wish everyone best of luck!
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Good for you! Best of luck future doctor 🙂
 
apart_fun3833 said:
Also, I have already fully committed to my dream MD school in Texas and have withdrawn from all my waitlists including OU. No secret agenda here, just being transparent according to what my sister said was happening. If what you are accusing me for is the case, just because you were accepted, I wouldn’t waste my time posting in this group chat--I'm just sharing what I know since I feel that everyone deserves to know what is going on and thought that it would be helpful to keep in mind for all of you guys! I wish everyone best of luck!
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All good info helps. Transparency is way preferable to the confusion and occlusion of this cycle at OU for sure. Like you, I am not interested in OU anymore and elsewhere-bound. I have several friends stuck on that WL though, who definitely deserve better treatment. Best to ya!
 
I’m still caught up on being a ‘burden’ to the admissions office and that future emails will be ‘summarily deleted’. That’s a crazy response, and incredibly disrespectful. If I emailed in my work realm with that attitude it would be seriously frowned upon. Crazy work you’re doing OU…
 
Hey everyone,

Current MS1 here but thought I would hop on and share what I learned last Friday to give you guys some more info. Apparently about 170 spots of the matriculating class size (total this year is about 200) have been filled up already. I found out that for the OKC track about 140/167 have already been taken. And they apparently have NOT even touched the waitlist yet, since they sent out a total of 220 acceptances since they thought these extra 20 accepted students would not commit. Doesn’t seem like there will be much waitlist movement at all unfortunately like the past years.

P.S. I heard the waitlist was around 200 people currently which is absurd given that that’s the same number as the matriculating class size! Feel free to ask any more questions

EDIT: As of 4/7, I heard that about 185 spots/201 total spots of the matriculating class have been taken
 
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I said something similar earlier, but will say again after seeing this past month's posts. The negativity is surprising to me. I have had nothing but amazing interactions with every aspect of the OU COM staff and students. With the concern of the new curriculum, I would encourage everyone to do their own research. Everything they are implementing has been done at other schools and has worked, allowing students to perform better on STEP 2. Many schools have used the reverse lecture scholar rx modules, multiple schools have their curriculum where you take STEP 1 & 2 within 6 months of each other. It is scary because it is new, but it is clear what their purpose is with this new curriculum and admitted student makeup: they are trying to make the school more prestigious by following the footsteps of some of the cutting edge, top 50 schools.
 
Chasing “prestige” (esp when done so abruptly and by the sole MD school in the state and a public school as well) is not a mission worth pursuing when it involves the going’s on of this cycle. It is also no excuse for treating so many applicants so poorly. The “negativity” is well earned. The facts speak for themselves.
 
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