APPIC Internship Match 2019-20-- Phase II

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I am wondering what was left after Phase II last year. I'm trying to expand my geographic area with my family and it is hard to figure out what locations are tolerable for everyone by March 18th. Does anyone have the post-match vacancy list from last year?
 
Does anyone know if NV Consortium (NV-PIC) or VA Columbus, OH have invited anyone for interviews? Thank you very much for taking a sec to help, it means a great deal, and your kindness shall be repaid.
 
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Does anyone know if NV Consortium (NV-PIC) or VA Columbus, OH have invited anyone for interviews? Thank you very much for taking a sec to help, it means a great deal, and your kindness shall be repaid.

I had an interview with the NV Consortium today and their final open house was also today, but as others are saying with other sites, it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t still send out more invites! Not sure about VA Columbus.
 
Guys...I'm having mixed feelings about this phase now. I've had a few interviews at this point and it is SO hard to get a feel for the program. Also, it may just be me being reserved, but I also feel like it's been hard during 30 minute (or so) interviews to let the sites get to know me. These interviews have been interesting. Anyone else feeling the same?
I feel exactly the same. I have no idea why I thought ranking sites in this phase would be easier but it is not and I’m struggling. I really can’t tell much from phone or zoom interviews with only 1-3 staff members and with the shortened interview times. I’m also trying to make sense of why some places didn’t fill positions and if it is something I’m unaware of that I should be (a site I interviewed with today disclosed something pretty bizarre that made me think twice about the site) or if I just need to trust my gut in the interviews about if I would feel comfortable with the staff I meet and based my decisions on that and what I’ve read about the site in brochures etc. I don’t really know how I’m going to rank everyone.
 
I feel exactly the same. I have no idea why I thought ranking sites in this phase would be easier but it is not and I’m struggling. I really can’t tell much from phone or zoom interviews with only 1-3 staff members and with the shortened interview times. I’m also trying to make sense of why some places didn’t fill positions and if it is something I’m unaware of that I should be (a site I interviewed with today disclosed something pretty bizarre that made me think twice about the site) or if I just need to trust my gut in the interviews about if I would feel comfortable with the staff I meet and based my decisions on that and what I’ve read about the site in brochures etc. I don’t really know how I’m going to rank everyone.
Yes, this is a struggle! This is a very compressed timeline and we are all basically speed dating with sites and they are with us as well. I am trying to keep some things in mind: 1) limiting to APA-accredited sites (a constraint of my academic program) that have enough quality to get through accreditation, 2) remembering that this is a one-year experience not a lifetime or even 4-5 year commitment, 3) considering "perfect" site vs. "good enough", and 4) weighing the pros and cons of taking a gamble on sites vs. waiting a year. Finally, yes I am absolutely letting my "gut" weigh heavily on decision-making about rankings.

As far as getting to know the site, one thing I have found helpful is to contact past interns. One of the TDs at a site volunteered this idea to me by providing me with a former interns email and we arranged a phone call. This is extremely helpful because former interns are not currently being evaluated and also you get to see their trajectory after completing that internship. The former intern gave me a balanced view of the internship experience rather than "selling".

I wish you the very best as you make this difficult decision.
 
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I feel exactly the same. I have no idea why I thought ranking sites in this phase would be easier but it is not and I’m struggling. I really can’t tell much from phone or zoom interviews with only 1-3 staff members and with the shortened interview times. I’m also trying to make sense of why some places didn’t fill positions and if it is something I’m unaware of that I should be (a site I interviewed with today disclosed something pretty bizarre that made me think twice about the site) or if I just need to trust my gut in the interviews about if I would feel comfortable with the staff I meet and based my decisions on that and what I’ve read about the site in brochures etc. I don’t really know how I’m going to rank everyone.

I also share the same concern on why some sites have most or all of their openings left. However, I think a part of that may be the location of the site. As far as rankings, this is a lot harder than Phase I for me as well since I think a lot more sites this time around are better fits. However, I am feeling a mix of fear, relief, and excitement as 3/18 and 3/25 approaches.

Also, heard nothing from University of Idaho and it seems no one on here has; I am counting that one out. LOL
 
I also share the same concern on why some sites have most or all of their openings left. However, I think a part of that may be the location of the site. As far as rankings, this is a lot harder than Phase I for me as well since I think a lot more sites this time around are better fits. However, I am feeling a mix of fear, relief, and excitement as 3/18 and 3/25 approaches.

Also, heard nothing from University of Idaho and it seems no one on here has; I am counting that one out. LOL
Same on U of Idaho - silence.
 
Question about the Ohio Psychology Internship program—there is a correctional facility track/option. I know the program is accredited, but they’ve never had interns before for that track? Does the accreditation still stand?
 
Question about the Ohio Psychology Internship program—there is a correctional facility track/option. I know the program is accredited, but they’ve never had interns before for that track? Does the accreditation still stand?

From my understanding the APA only requires re-accreditation when significant changes occur in the program. One consortium site I interviewed at said they expanded pretty significantly and APA insisted on conducting another site visit, but from what I've seen/heard minor changes like this are fine. Some APA sites changed their tracks from Phase I to Phase II and this doesn't seem to be an issue.
 
Anyone (or know of anyone) who has heard back from:
Massachusetts Mental Health Center
Chestnut Hill College
Denver Children's Home
Village for Families and Children
VA Illiana Healthcare System
Cali Consortium Sutter Center Sacramento

Down to the wire now and just checking the rest off my list!
 
Is there anyone here who took chances and applied to sites that require more hours than you had through Nov 1st?
 
Anyone (or know of anyone) who has heard back from:
Massachusetts Mental Health Center
Chestnut Hill College
Denver Children's Home
Village for Families and Children
VA Illiana Healthcare System
Cali Consortium Sutter Center Sacramento

Down to the wire now and just checking the rest off my list!
Also havent heard from Denver Children's Home. Or Derner, Astor, or the Village in Hartford.
 
Anyone (or know of anyone) who has heard back from:
Massachusetts Mental Health Center
Chestnut Hill College
Denver Children's Home
Village for Families and Children
VA Illiana Healthcare System
Cali Consortium Sutter Center Sacramento

Down to the wire now and just checking the rest off my list!
I have heard back from University of Denver and CPIP but different tracks
 
Yes for assessment hours and I was surprised that I heard back from many of those sites
That gives me some hope! A site responded to my follow-up email explaining that my application will not be reviewed due to my hours-I was short of 10 hours. I guess that's fair and nerve-racking 🙁
 
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From my understanding the APA only requires re-accreditation when significant changes occur in the program. One consortium site I interviewed at said they expanded pretty significantly and APA insisted on conducting another site visit, but from what I've seen/heard minor changes like this are fine. Some APA sites changed their tracks from Phase I to Phase II and this doesn't seem to be an issue.
That makes sense. Thank you!!
 
I feel exactly the same. I have no idea why I thought ranking sites in this phase would be easier but it is not and I’m struggling. I really can’t tell much from phone or zoom interviews with only 1-3 staff members and with the shortened interview times. I’m also trying to make sense of why some places didn’t fill positions and if it is something I’m unaware of that I should be (a site I interviewed with today disclosed something pretty bizarre that made me think twice about the site) or if I just need to trust my gut in the interviews about if I would feel comfortable with the staff I meet and based my decisions on that and what I’ve read about the site in brochures etc. I don’t really know how I’m going to rank everyone.

Folks, don’t get too hung up on fit. At the end of the day, this is a hoop that you all have to jump through to move on. It’s a year, and it’s required. The reality is, getting an internship site is actually more about survival and matching to an APA-accredited site at all than what you want. Not to be cynical, but I applied back when we were having the big internship imbalance, and fit wasn’t the goal—matching to an APA-site at all was. I don’t think that that’s really changed much just because there are more spots open. It is hard to get a read on sites in short interviews, so just do your best and don’t overthink it. It’s just a year. I thought a site seemed great from the interview and was surprised when I got there and the expectations were unrealistically high for interns, so you can’t always tell; they portrayed themselves as laid back and kind, and joked with me during the interview. Different story once I was there, but I got through it and graduated. So in the end, just rank and move on; you’ll survive!
 
Folks, don’t get too hung up on fit. At the end of the day, this is a hoop that you all have to jump through to move on. It’s a year, and it’s required. The reality is, getting an internship site is actually more about survival and matching to an APA-accredited site at all than what you want. Not to be cynical, but I applied back when we were having the big internship imbalance, and fit wasn’t the goal—matching to an APA-site at all was. I don’t think that that’s really changed much just because there are more spots open. It is hard to get a read on sites in short interviews, so just do your best and don’t overthink it. It’s just a year. I thought a site seemed great from the interview and was surprised when I got there and the expectations were unrealistically high for interns, so you can’t always tell; they portrayed themselves as laid back and kind, and joked with me during the interview. Different story once I was there, but I got through it and graduated. So in the end, just rank and move on; you’ll survive!

I think people are just here trying to commiserate and express their (totally valid) feelings regarding being in this position in the first place. We can all appreciate that the system has improved and has been much worse, but if we don't have to, why would we want to "settle" for an experience that doesn't meet our training goals (at least in some capacity)? I think that this is all OP was getting at - it's hard to tell if we are going to get the experience we are signing up for over the phone or videoconferencing and interacting with 1-3 people in a limited way. I'm sorry you had that experience with your internship!
 
I had an interview with the NV Consortium today and their final open house was also today, but as others are saying with other sites, it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t still send out more invites! Not sure about VA Columbus.
Thank you all very much for your help!
 
I think people are just here trying to commiserate and express their (totally valid) feelings regarding being in this position in the first place. We can all appreciate that the system has improved and has been much worse, but if we don't have to, why would we want to "settle" for an experience that doesn't meet our training goals (at least in some capacity)? I think that this is all OP was getting at - it's hard to tell if we are going to get the experience we are signing up for over the phone or videoconferencing and interacting with 1-3 people in a limited way. I'm sorry you had that experience with your internship!

The sites I applied to met my training goals, from what I could see. You’re choosing amongst comparable sites with certain training standards as accredited by APA; you just can’t always tell what their training environment is like, which was my point. I’m not talking about “settling” here; all the sites I interviewed at were comparable, which is what makes ranking difficult and why I’m suggesting not thinking about it too much. Intern applicants are still in a less-power situation professionally. So if you don’t rank an APA-accredited training site (already meets training standards) because you think it’s “settling,” you increase risk of not matching and repeating the process in a year (yikes)!

My intention isn’t to invalidate folks; my goal is to help people be practical and down-to-earth about the process itself and not agonize over the ranking process, which people can get hung up on at times. I wasn’t directly speaking to the poster, but to everyone. Determining fit is simply hard to do in this situation, so I thought a reminder for folks would be helpful because the process is already stressful enough and what you see isn’t always what you get, anyway, from my example.
 
Anyone (or know of anyone) who has heard back from:
Massachusetts Mental Health Center
Chestnut Hill College
Denver Children's Home
Village for Families and Children
VA Illiana Healthcare System
Cali Consortium Sutter Center Sacramento

Down to the wire now and just checking the rest off my list!

I’m also still waiting on Chestnut Hill and Denver Children’s Home
 
Guys...I'm having mixed feelings about this phase now. I've had a few interviews at this point and it is SO hard to get a feel for the program. Also, it may just be me being reserved, but I also feel like it's been hard during 30 minute (or so) interviews to let the sites get to know me. These interviews have been interesting. Anyone else feeling the same?
Completely. It's hard to get a feel for the connection over the phone!! I am considering back-up options just in case. Not sure if I want to go through post-vacancy or not.
 
Yes, this is a struggle! This is a very compressed timeline and we are all basically speed dating with sites and they are with us as well. I am trying to keep some things in mind: 1) limiting to APA-accredited sites (a constraint of my academic program) that have enough quality to get through accreditation, 2) remembering that this is a one-year experience not a lifetime or even 4-5 year commitment, 3) considering "perfect" site vs. "good enough", and 4) weighing the pros and cons of taking a gamble on sites vs. waiting a year. Finally, yes I am absolutely letting my "gut" weigh heavily on decision-making about rankings.

As far as getting to know the site, one thing I have found helpful is to contact past interns. One of the TDs at a site volunteered this idea to me by providing me with a former interns email and we arranged a phone call. This is extremely helpful because former interns are not currently being evaluated and also you get to see their trajectory after completing that internship. The former intern gave me a balanced view of the internship experience rather than "selling".

I wish you the very best as you make this difficult decision.
Yes, yes, yes, and yes. I'm letting my gut weigh in too... then second-guessing myself cause I like to re-assess my thoughts thousands of times. This is gonna be tough
 
I also haven't heard from them. I haven't heard from like 5 sites.

Part of me thinks that I should maybe count them out and the other part of me is like IT AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER.
Exactly!! There was a site I counted out because I hadn’t heard from them but others here had (a week or so ago, too). But then they called last night to set up an interview for this morning. You never know!
 
Exactly!! There was a site I counted out because I hadn’t heard from them but others here had (a week or so ago, too). But then they called last night to set up an interview for this morning. You never know!

That's the crazy part about this phase, it seems. It's not really multiple waves as much as just sporadic invites. I have multiple on my list for which I do not recall seeing invites on this thread yet, one being MMHC. I'm tempted to count them out but, at the same time, it appears that they are consistently last-minute in Phase I each year and that may be the case with Phase II as well. This thread also isn't a representative sample of applicants so one truly doesn't know until the ranking deadline, unless the site sends a notification.
 
I think people are just here trying to commiserate and express their (totally valid) feelings regarding being in this position in the first place. We can all appreciate that the system has improved and has been much worse, but if we don't have to, why would we want to "settle" for an experience that doesn't meet our training goals (at least in some capacity)? I think that this is all OP was getting at - it's hard to tell if we are going to get the experience we are signing up for over the phone or videoconferencing and interacting with 1-3 people in a limited way. I'm sorry you had that experience with your internship!
Thank you jerray, this is exactly my thinking. I know it’s a year but there are basics I want to make sure I’m getting on internship and sometimes, it’s been hard to even decipher what basics sites have or don’t have and the details on those. It’s hard to get all the info clarified in a brief chat or from interns in the short amount of time we have. I also think this is an important training year that I want to meet some of my training goals to help me moving forward. So while it sounded like you just wanted to get through it (I think we all do), I would like to make sure I’m also meeting my needs, which may look different than what your needs looked like on internship.
 
Thank you jerray, this is exactly my thinking. I know it’s a year but there are basics I want to make sure I’m getting on internship and sometimes, it’s been hard to even decipher what basics sites have or don’t have and the details on those. It’s hard to get all the info clarified in a brief chat or from interns in the short amount of time we have. I also think this is an important training year that I want to meet some of my training goals to help me moving forward. So while it sounded like you just wanted to get through it (I think we all do), I would like to make sure I’m also meeting my needs, which may look different than what your needs looked like on internship.
And when I referenced “you” I was actually meaning to reply to the poster you were replying to jerray. Sorry!
 
That's the crazy part about this phase, it seems. It's not really multiple waves as much as just sporadic invites. I have multiple on my list for which I do not recall seeing invites on this thread yet, one being MMHC. I'm tempted to count them out but, at the same time, it appears that they are consistently last-minute in Phase I each year and that may be the case with Phase II as well. This thread also isn't a representative sample of applicants so one truly doesn't know until the ranking deadline, unless the site sends a notification.

Agreed. It's like all sites are working on a rolling basis. Plus, some sites may not have had the chance to go through applications until late! This phase feels crazier. I have about 8 sites I haven't heard from still...
 
Since there are some sites that seemingly no one here has heard from, I'm starting to wonder if some sites intentionally wait for the post-match vacancy? Of course we are a small subset of the 400+ in Phase II. Thoughts?
 
Since there are some sites that seemingly no one here has heard from, I'm starting to wonder if some sites intentionally wait for the post-match vacancy? Of course we are a small subset of the 400+ in Phase II. Thoughts?
One site responses to my follow-up email and said they were still reviewing apps. -3/12
 
Since there are some sites that seemingly no one here has heard from, I'm starting to wonder if some sites intentionally wait for the post-match vacancy? Of course we are a small subset of the 400+ in Phase II. Thoughts?

I don't think I have ever considered this possibility. Based on the procedures of the PMVS, it seems like potentially more work due to Training Directors receiving emails with attachments, contrasted with the standard AAPI materials. I would expect fewer applications to be submitted to each site in this stage but it still seems risky to me. My overall assumption thus far for sites that have not shown up has been 1) sites are running late; or, 2) I simply will not receive a rejection and others (even if not represented on here) have received invitations. But who knows - everything seems up for interpretation in this process as a whole.
 
I also think this is an important training year that I want to meet some of my training goals to help me moving forward. So while it sounded like you just wanted to get through it (I think we all do), I would like to make sure I’m also meeting my needs, which may look different than what your needs looked like on internship.

I didn’t only care about matching; I initially picked sites to apply to in the track I wanted and with training experiences/values I sought out in the first place, so that was pretty much covered by the interview/ranking stage, which was then about survival.

Being on the other side and seeing more of the process, sites should be pretty comparable if they’re in the same track, so I’m not saying you shouldn’t think about the specialized training at this stage, but to be attuned to the reality that it isn’t always going to look exactly like you think it will, so no need to overthink it. I understand where you’re coming from; it just looks a little different when you’re on the other side and get to see how interns are chosen, what training actually looks like, etc.

Hence my advice. It’s a stressful process, for sure, and some folks have a fear of ranking the “wrong” site near the top, but even my “wrong” site provided solid training in certain areas that I use today, despite the difficult interpersonal dynamics there.
 
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I had a rather strange telephone interview with Centerstone consortium (in Florida) this morning .... I was wondering if anyone else has interview with them and what they interview was like? Does anyone know past interns from there or can anyone talk to the experience at the site?
 
I had a rather strange telephone interview with Centerstone consortium (in Florida) this morning .... I was wondering if anyone else has interview with them and what they interview was like? Does anyone know past interns from there or can anyone talk to the experience at the site?

I interviewed with the JFCS track, is that the same one you did?
 
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