CHOOSE YOUR OWWN II - Game Thread

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I dont remember you actually giving any kind of full answer to my question to you about why is it not reasonable for me having never played with chaos, and also only playing my 2nd CYO game, to legitimately have slight misunderstandings about what was going on, especially with the backwards-than-usual verbage that was being used in regards to roles, affiliations, and abilities.

I mean this is my first CYO game and I think the second time I've played with chaos, so I'm not really an expert either.

It's one thing to be confused and misunderstand, but with you and stagg it started to feel manufactured and drawn out, with some shade thrown in, hence why I feel like it was an attempt to try to hide something.
 
This is the kind of post that felt like actual contribution. I feel like there's a slight difference between this and the quotes above it in terms of the content and whether it's going to help with solving or not.
They were all coming from the same mindset that people were overemphasizing the usefulness of the discards so :shrug: not seeing the difference you're seeing. As I said, there was little discussion of anything else (while I was around) so not much else to comment on.

Again I will say, scum dubz has no issue giving fake reads. I don't have strong ones yet because I'm village and not gonna make **** up. I have no problem doing that as any variety of scum. I gave you what I have right now.
 
They were all coming from the same mindset that people were overemphasizing the usefulness of the discards so :shrug: not seeing the difference you're seeing. As I said, there was little discussion of anything else (while I was around) so not much else to comment on.

Again I will say, scum dubz has no issue giving fake reads. I don't have strong ones yet because I'm village and not gonna make **** up. I have no problem doing that as any variety of scum. I gave you what I have right now.

Aren't you the one who always says you shouldn't trust a person's own meta reads of what they think they do as a wolf vs village?
 
Still feel like this felt weird, even though I get what you were saying as a fellow person with iffy D1 reads. But it felt a little like you were trying to absolve yourself if she flipped and flipped village.
I was telling people to stop sheeping me d1. That's it. No need to absolve myself of anything as any affiliation, seeing as voting for villagers is in my village meta lol
 
Aren't you the one who always says you shouldn't trust a person's own meta reads of what they think they do as a wolf vs village?
You can very well go look at any of my scum games and see my pretty color coded reads lists, dina
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Coop (1) - Zenge
dubz (1) - shorty
Vis (1) - sunshine

3/11
yeet close in ~32 hours
 
You can very well go look at any of my scum games and see my pretty color coded reads lists, dina

That's not really the point. You're obviously aware of your meta and therefore can change how you act as scum
 
Can you explain the feeling at all?
Her posts mainly include: jumping on Stagg which is the easy thing to do, and random things that look like she's saying something but its not really... like about making AM angry, roles that no one has, fighting with chaos about math, etc.
I mean this is my first CYO game and I think the second time I've played with chaos, so I'm not really an expert either.

It's one thing to be confused and misunderstand, but with you and stagg it started to feel manufactured and drawn out, with some shade thrown in, hence why I feel like it was an attempt to try to hide something.
I honestly just thought cubs was like the old man that couldn't figure out that newfangled thing the kids are doing.
 
That's not really the point. You're obviously aware of your meta and therefore can change how you act as scum
This is a silly argument and you know it. The WIFOM there is not more valuable than being able to get myself village read and direct the thread.
 
There are ways to game solve other than with posting reads lists, so I'm not really sure why that's a sticking point here.
It's what you were pointing to :shrug: you very specifically mentioned me giving reads. I gave you what I have right now and it was still in your reasoning for scum reading me. So.
 
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It's what you were pointing to :shrug: you very specifically mentioned me giving reads. I gave you what I have right now and it was still in your reasoning for scum reading me. So.
Yeah, but it wasn't the ONLY thing that contributed to my read or my saying you weren't actively game solving.

Idk. We'll see what happens the rest of this cycle. There's a lot of time left.
 
Something about the way Dina is interacting with me and the wording of the comments in her reads list is giving me bad feels. I need to go back and read over cray's posts too but I'll get to that later.

yeet dina
 
This is a silly argument and you know it. The WIFOM there is not more valuable than being able to get myself village read and direct the thread.

I feel like you're twisting my words around

I'm trying to point out that you're relying heavily on a defense of what your meta-analysis is, when you have in the past have said that you never trust someone's meta-analysis of themselves. So therefore you should know that it's a flimsy defense

Something about the way Dina is interacting with me and the wording of the comments in her reads list is giving me bad feels. I need to go back and read over cray's posts too but I'll get to that later.

yeet dina

Well I guess it's my fault that my vote on you is going to look retaliatory because I waited

yeet dubz

(also btw scum!dina would never try to push dubz as a wolf 😉)
 
I feel like you're twisting my words around

I'm trying to point out that you're relying heavily on a defense of what your meta-analysis is, when you have in the past have said that you never trust someone's meta-analysis of themselves. So therefore you should know that it's a flimsy defense
Usually when I'm talking about that it's much more abstract meta things ("I wouldn't make this type of argument" or "I wouldn't go after this player" or "I wouldn't behave in this particular way."). This is something verifiable, and that you can ask anyone who has played with me as scum, and does not change based on gamestate because there is no benefit to not providing a reads list if I can easily make one up. So yes, if someone says "dubz hasn't given reads and that's wolfy" I'm going to say that's silly, because that's not how wolf!dubz plays, and you can say "Well that's WIFOM" and I leave it to others to decide whether that makes any sense for me to do just so I can make this argument, or if it makes more sense that I just. Don't. Have. Strong. Reads. Yet.
 
Closest you have is Judas and Saulus
Yeah I was thinking on it and pretty much the only roles I’m at all concerned about them wanting to be yeeted are judas and supersaint. Saulus and oneshot prince are beneficial for town to yeet (I mean. Better if prince gets nked by another faction. But can’t bet on that esp with how sketchy Coop is). Judas I could see deciding to bail on town, since they’re more powerful as mafia than town (can essentially be either [ability] town or [ability] plus 1x prince mafia), and at least if they get converted early then they can fully play for mafia instead of trying to play for town with the fear that it’ll eventually be counter to their wincon. Still, not something we can bank on and just never yeet a super scummy-looking player :shrug:

It could be nice if, if it looks like she’s going to be yeeted and it looks like that’s her goal, she got dayvig’d so town doesn’t potentially have to use two yeets on her if she’s Judas or 1x prince.
 
Retaliatory shade? I'm not shading shorty. I think she's village. I just know her read is wrong and reasoning for it is misguided.
Oh, I initially read the last sentence as accusing her of faking of the read to try and get someone who’s too busy to defend misyeeted
 
Oh, I initially read the last sentence as accusing her of faking of the read to try and get someone who’s too busy to defend misyeeted
Nah that's not what I was saying, I was just trying to clarify the reasoning.
 
Vote coops

tense-sounding entrance and editing of fluff, fishing, performance playing up not understanding, and extensive trolling avoiding working with town
 
also btw scum!dina would never try to push dubz as a wolf 😉
Scum!dina might if she legitimately thought I might be a different flavor of scum though :heckyeah:
 
Nah but for real I forgot why I stopped playing WW. I just don't have as much fun as I used to. It's so much effort and I have very little free time. This isn't what I want to spend my free time on. Not your guys fault. So I made it fun.

Not much to lose so if you wanna go for me feel free. I probably won't do much game solving because right now I'm a blob. But that's ok
 
So far since it’s getting late...


Lmao


I don’t know but maybe it could benefit different scum factions to know about others vs being town? I don’t know how those win conditions work with mafia, aliens, and wolves. But also no one is going to scum alignment claim so I kinda don’t think it’s really useful.

They could pick softer abilities simply for the fact that they think it “clears” them. Like right here in your post. Now I’m kinda side eyeing you for not seeing that.

Chaos brings in a whole different play style from other forums. He often says weird stuff lol

Yeah I didn’t think it was great because
1. I would get seered as alien myself
2. I didn’t know if we would even end up with an alien in the game, and if we did, what were the chances I happened to pick that person to seer?
Going back to this,

I dislike the cubs logic

This also reads as trying to dissuade village info gathering which had been extensively discussed by this point to the point I understood it.

Don't understand the logic behind the zenge side eye, maybe she could explain.
 
The highlighted part of this defense is making me a bit uncomfortable

It looks like she is trying to say , if she were scum she would provide convincing reads?
That is WIFOM and it doesnt even seem right. Surely town!dubz would have an easier time giving reads than scum!dubz?
I didn't see this post. My simple answer is no. Town dubz actually cares about her reads being correct. Scum dubz makes up the reads that fit her purpose and twists things to fit the narrative.

...is that not how everyone plays scum?
 
I didn't see this post. My simple answer is no. Town dubz actually cares about her reads being correct. Scum dubz makes up the reads that fit her purpose and twists things to fit the narrative.

...is that not how everyone plays scum?
No I'm pretty sure most people play scum as hide from the village and give reads only when necessary
 
Going back to this,

I dislike the cubs logic
What Cubs logic?
This also reads as trying to dissuade village info gathering which had been extensively discussed by this point to the point I understood it.
...what?
Don't understand the logic behind the zenge side eye, maybe she could explain.
I explained it in the very quote you posted. He’s handing out town cred I don’t agree with and don’t think he would if he was town.
 
Yup! Just don't understand the point she was making
She saying it’s suspicious of me to ignore the possibility that scum would intentionally discard a powerful role in place of choosing a weaker one, just for the sake of trying to get town cred from it.

I legitimately think it’s an insane strategy, so I’m not bothering to consider that people would do it.

The specific roles in question are Ninja and Strongman. Intentionally giving those up as scum, and choosing weaker roles in the hopes that it might buy you village cred is something I’m not seriously considering that anyone did. The possibility of maybe getting some village cred isn’t worth as much as those roles.
 
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She saying it’s suspicious of me to ignore the possibility that scum would intentionally discard a powerful role in place of choosing a weaker one, just for the sake of trying to get town cred from it.

I legitimately think it’s an insane strategy, so I’m not bothering to consider that people would do it.

The specific roles in question are Ninja and Strongman. Intentionally giving those up as scum, and choosing weaker roles in the hopes that it might buy you village cred is something I’m not seriously considering that anyone did. The possibility of maybe getting some village cred isn’t worth as much as those roles.
Ah this helps thank you
 
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