CHOOSE YOUR OWWN II - Game Thread

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So , as many of you may not have played greatest idea before,

It is customary to claim alignments at the start of the game , helps us with some easy early town leanings and possible scum-slips.
On that note , I hard claim vigilante - aligned.

(Claim your alignment and NOT YOUR ROLE. DEFINETELY NOT THE ROLE )
 
Chaostrodon said:
So , as many of you may not have played greatest idea before,

It is customary to claim alignments at the start of the game , helps us with some easy early town leanings and possible scum-slips.
On that note , I hard claim vigilante - aligned.

(Claim your alignment and NOT YOUR ROLE. DEFINETELY NOT THE ROLE )
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The way this works is , you can see that there is only one Vigilante in the rolelist here : Greater Idea Mafia/RolePMs - MafiaWiki
(You can see the range next to the role , there are 12 VTs , 2 Cops , 2 Trackers and 1 Roleblocker , for instance.

So now that Ive claimed Vigilante aligned , If any of you had either discarded Vigilante or picked Vigilante as role or alignment , that would mean I have been a dirty liar and must be punished immediately (Since there is only one Vig possible)
 
Chaostrodon said:
So , as many of you may not have played greatest idea before,

It is customary to claim alignments at the start of the game , helps us with some easy early town leanings and possible scum-slips.
On that note , I hard claim vigilante - aligned.

(Claim your alignment and NOT YOUR ROLE. DEFINETELY NOT THE ROLE )
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Uh, vigilante is a role, not an alignment...
 
Viscernable said:
I’m not really sure how to interpret these discards considering the recombining affiliation + role choice mechanic. Usually I’d be kinda sketched by useful and fun town role discards but not sure how applicable that is here. I will look at discards of roles that would be useful as scum but not so much as village as a good sign and vice versa. So feeling a bit better about chaos and edit: pleasey (thought it was alley at first) for discarding ninja and strongman and a bit worse about Dubz for discarding prober (ww seer and roleblocker)
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I will ofc be voting the first person to attempt a discard meta read.

This is at best , a poor understanding of probability and at worst , scum going after the low - hanging fruit.
Vote Viscernable
 
Chaostrodon said:
The way this works is , you can see that there is only one Vigilante in the rolelist here : Greater Idea Mafia/RolePMs - MafiaWiki
(You can see the range next to the role , there are 12 VTs , 2 Cops , 2 Trackers and 1 Roleblocker , for instance.

So now that Ive claimed Vigilante aligned , If any of you had either discarded Vigilante or picked Vigilante as role or alignment , that would mean I have been a dirty liar and must be punished immediately (Since there is only one Vig possible)
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Wdym? I assumed by alignment you meant “what kind of role but not the exact role” because of how you used it (I’d usually consider it to mean aff but clearly that’s not how you’re using it). There are at least 3 vig-like roles with 4 rolls between them (since one has 2 rolls)
 
Chaostrodon said:
You pick a role for your abilities and another role for your alignment.

I am talking about the role that you pick for your alignment.

Btw , my alignment is Town Vigilante. (saying this coz there are multiple kinds of Vigilantes in the rolelist)
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Okay, that makes sense. I’ll take a look at the role list to see if there’s anything it would bad for scum to 100% know is not a role in the game before saying mine
 
Viscernable said:
Wdym? I assumed by alignment you meant “what kind of role but not the exact role” because of how you used it (I’d usually consider it to mean aff but clearly that’s not how you’re using it). There are at least 3 vig-like roles with 4 rolls between them (since one has 2 rolls)
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Um no , alignment is the second option you pick, Your alignment has nothing to do with your actual role.

You were asked to pick two roles out of 3 right?

One of this would be used to determine your abilities (WHICH YOU SHOULD NOT CLAIM)
The other would be used to determine your alignment (Which you can claim)

By alignment , I mean the second role that you pick to determine alignment
 
Chaostrodon said:
Um no , alignment is the second option you pick, Your alignment has nothing to do with your actual role.

You were asked to pick two roles out of 3 right?

One of this would be used to determine your abilities (WHICH YOU SHOULD NOT CLAIM)
The other would be used to determine your alignment (Which you can claim)

By alignment , I mean the second role that you pick to determine alignment
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Yes I understand that alignment is not role, the confusion was because you literally said “my alignment is vig” which is not a role not an alignment. If you want people to know you mean “the role you choose your alignment from” then say that and don’t act surprised when people assume you mean what you say.
 
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Stagg737 said:
Unvote Alley
Vote Cray

Interesting discard given pre-game statements. Also think Shorty, Dubz, Cubs' discards are interesting. Has Chaos played before? Never heard of them.
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Um, what statements? About how bummed I was the roll with vanilla townie didn't stick?

How does discarding vanilla townie make me scum? If anything, you all should realize there's no way I discarded vanilla townie to be scum. So think again.
 
Chaostrodon said:
Fair enough , I will believe you , For now.
But discard meta is still a poor understanding of probability.

Unvote Visc , Vote Sunshine.
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Are you more or less likely to choose strongman or ninja if you choose town? Are you more or less likely to choose them if you choose a killing faction?
 
Chaostrodon said:
So , as many of you may not have played greatest idea before,

It is customary to claim alignments at the start of the game , helps us with some easy early town leanings and possible scum-slips.
On that note , I hard claim vigilante - aligned.

(Claim your alignment and NOT YOUR ROLE. DEFINETELY NOT THE ROLE )
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Totally confused what this means.
 
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Viscernable said:
Are you more or less likely to choose strongman or ninja if you choose town? Are you more or less likely to choose them if you choose a killing faction?
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I think this would be more useful if the options were binary. As it is, we don't know if people passed on strongman , etc. for something even better for scum (I admit I haven't looked at the full role list yet...). I can't logically see how you can draw much from the discards except maybe if people lie about stuff (poorly).
 
In general I'm going to think people who discarded a town role did so because they have another town role to draw alignment from. So I'm eyeballing those who discarded scum roles harder, because while they may have discarded a scum role for town roles, they also may not have had the choice to be town and had all scum to pick from. Main issue with this thinking has to do with in what cases did someone favor scum over town.
 
WildZoo said:
I think this would be more useful if the options were binary. As it is, we don't know if people passed on strongman , etc. for something even better for scum (I admit I haven't looked at the full role list yet...). I can't logically see how you can draw much from the discards except maybe if people lie about stuff (poorly).
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Yeah I don’t think it’s anywhere near a strong point but I do think it is a small thing to consider. My jimmies are just rustled by some boy saying I have a poor understanding of probability bc I’m conceited honestly
 
Viscernable said:
Are you more or less likely to choose strongman or ninja if you choose town? Are you more or less likely to choose them if you choose a killing faction?
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The factor you are missing is that the other option is totally independent of the discarded role. So a persons discard gives you 0 info unless you also know his role.
 
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