Class of 2021 . . . how ya doin?

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battie said:
What are yalls schools doing for graduation?
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The vet school was gonna do their own thing and try to make it as normal as possible, but instead main campus strongarmed them into a combined commencement with the college of law and other graduate schools...for reasons unknown. It's going to be in the stadium for social distancing purposes I assume, and each person is allowed 4 guests.
 
battie said:
What are yalls schools doing for graduation?
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From what I can tell there's some sort of outdoor ceremony in a parking lot with no hooding and we can each have up to 2 guests.

I'm kind of hoping they'll live stream it but they haven't said anything of the sort so hopes not high on that front.
 
We are having a ceremony with the rest of campus. this one is at the stadium and 2 tickets allowed. then we are having a private ceremony with the vet school only and it is outside with 4 tickets each.
 
We are not allowed to have an in-person graduation unless 100% of our class is vaccinated (per random mandate of UC Davis and not the vet school) and we are not, so we are 100% virtual. We apparently can't opt out of graduation if we are not vaccinated because it violates HIPA and yes, our class is extremely bitter about it.
 
Our school cancelled graduation but somehow our in person practical exam is okay. It is such a sad way to end vet school just all leaving after our practical. They are telling us maybe next year we can have a ceremony... I’m not holding my breath.
 
I called a client just now (10:20 pm) to give an evening update because that's how today's going and apologized for calling so late.

The owner was like "oh did you have to turn around and come back this evening just to call [from the hospital phone]?" "oh no ma'am, we come back at 9 pm to walk them again and make sure they're all set for the evening" "oh wow! so you DO live at the hospital then"

"... I mean, you said it, not me."

Gotta love 7 am, 2, 5, and 9 pm walks on all our in-patients. :laugh:
 
battie said:
What are yalls schools doing for graduation?
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They're having in person graduation with just the college of vet med! Guests are invited. And they're doing it in the outdoor stadium, so lots of room to spread out.


Except that they also invited the class of 2020 to graduate at the exact same time as us (without telling 2021 at all about the shared graduation) despite the fact that vet med graduates at 1 pm and the next graduation isn't until 7 pm.


I am 100% down with 2020 getting a graduation... just really wish they would've separated them. Because now, they're bringing back up to 90 graduates plus their families from all across the nation... and (up to) 90 more bodies is really the last thing anyone needs in the middle of a pterodactyl.
 
Guys. Our equine medicine service had 7 foals in house today. 7. We have 6 staying through the weekend pending any positive or negative changes in health status.

7. Foals. Just 3 days until my last vacay block.
 
battie said:
Guys. Our equine medicine service had 7 foals in house today. 7. We have 6 staying through the weekend pending any positive or negative changes in health status.

7. Foals. Just 3 days until my last vacay block.
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I hope for your sake there are a lot of students on that rotation....

Otherwise I weep for the sleep you aren't going to get with all that nursing care that needs to happen.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
I hope for your sake there are a lot of students on that rotation....

Otherwise I weep for the sleep you aren't going to get with all that nursing care that needs to happen.
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There are 8 students. Came in and my foal literally died as I walked up to his stall. Then 15 minutes later, we had an emergency c section where foal lived and mom was euthed on the table.
twelvetigers said:
ITT: why pay caretakers or techs to care for animals in the teaching hospital when we have students to do it for free? They don’t have anything more important to do, like study or sleep or live.
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We are salty
 
I just love some rotations where I have to have all of my inpatients walked and SOAPed, with complete ICU sheets by 7:15. (Takes at least 10 minutes to walk each patient due to slow elevators and the very long walk from ICU/ dog wards to the walking area.

So as you can assume, it takes a while to sling walk my 50 kg Dane... so most days I’m at the hospital by 6:15 am... Don’t get done until closer to 6pm. Then you have to go get your patients settled and other miscellaneous BS meaning you don’t leave until 7. Then back at the hospital at 9 to feed and to walk. They throw in a TPR there so we think we’re doing dr work. Walking 1-4 in patients, not out until 10-10:30... then sx paperwork, SOAPS, future requests, discharges, collecting rDVM records, etc. and wake up and do it again. 🙂

Plus I live 15 minutes from the school, which isn’t a problem except I’m driving over an hour a day.
 
The way it was explained to me once was that by being the caretaker, you get to observe the animal and can start to assess possible pain levels, mentation changes, breathing changes, etc. Helps you to establish when they might be declining vs improving.
 
I had a HBC dog that we spent like 6 hours in surgery fusing the tarsus. Did great for a couple days, then started breathing "weird" and was vomiting occasionally after eating. Turned out she also had a diaphragmatic hernia that we had missed on first pass.
 
Lupin21 said:
I had a HBC dog that we spent like 6 hours in surgery fusing the tarsus. Did great for a couple days, then started breathing "weird" and was vomiting occasionally after eating. Turned out she also had a diaphragmatic hernia that we had missed on first pass.
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Oh I have one of these. Thankfully not my case, but everyone was involved by the end...

Seen by the ER after being HBC, significant pelvic fractures, did well with pain management and u cath. Sent home and scheduled for sx with one of the other practices closer to his home two days later.

In surgery, they kept having fluid invade into the surgical field and discovered... surprise! Uroabdomen! Oh with a side of hemothorax.

Stayed in our ICU with a u cath for like a week, contrast study, still leaking. Stayed with the surgeon (dog was owned by a friend of his) for another week with u cath in and that fixed it.

Presented two weeks later for ADR. Dog has dropped almost twenty pounds and is breathing funny. Liver enzyme elevations annnddd small diaphragmatic hernia (like, it's super subtle on rads) with part of liver and gallbladder entrapped. To surgery, hospitalized for a couple days, back home.

Couple weeks later, "yeah he hasn't been eating well and his belly looks big?" Welp. Bile peritonitis, several liters of bile in abdomen and an >1cm hole of necrosis in the gallbladder, likely from where it was entrapped.

Went to surgery and removed the gallbladder, flushed flushed flushed, ICU for a day or two then recovered at the surgeon's house because they didn't trust the owner to tell them before the dog looked like trash if there were any more complications.

He did great and killed their favourite chicken the day before going home. Big dumb bloodhound.

We were all very sick of seeing him and I am infinitely more paranoid about long term problems from HBCs than previously. :laugh:
 
cdo96 said:
🙄🙄🙄🙄

They're having in person graduation with just the college of vet med! Guests are invited. And they're doing it in the outdoor stadium, so lots of room to spread out.


Except that they also invited the class of 2020 to graduate at the exact same time as us (without telling 2021 at all about the shared graduation) despite the fact that vet med graduates at 1 pm and the next graduation isn't until 7 pm.


I am 100% down with 2020 getting a graduation... just really wish they would've separated them. Because now, they're bringing back up to 90 graduates plus their families from all across the nation... and (up to) 90 more bodies is really the last thing anyone needs in the middle of a pterodactyl.
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I somehow did not know this. I wonder how many 2020ers will take them up on it (I personally would not want to go back after a year but that’s just me).
 
Emily Faith said:
I somehow did not know this. I wonder how many 2020ers will take them up on it (I personally would not want to go back after a year but that’s just me).
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I didn't want to go to the one we had, let alone come all the way back for it. I feel bad though that they made me go when just a year later people didn't get to at all. All of it should be optional in my opinion. haha
 
I would go back if my school was able to do something for us. Though I'm still in town so not much effort involved :laugh: Depends on how much the whole thing matters to you I guess. For me, graduation was something I had been looking forward to so so much, for a lot of reasons, it was a big emotional blow to have it reduced to a zoom call.

Lupin21 said:
All of it should be optional in my opinion.
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I can agree with that lol
 
WildZoo said:
I would go back if my school was able to do something for us. Though I'm still in town so not much effort involved :laugh: Depends on how much the whole thing matters to you I guess. For me, graduation was something I had been looking forward to so so much, for a lot of reasons, it was a big emotional blow to have it reduced to a zoom call.
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Yeah I was really bummed and would also go back if my school was willing to do anything for us. I didn't care at all about undergrad graduation, but was really excited for vet school graduaton. They majorly dropped the ball with still getting us our hoods and caps (what we get to keep from our regalia) and kept passing the blame around with who didn't verify we still wanted them/our full regalia rentals. Then stopped responding to emails last summer about it. We had a bit of hope of maybe getting them when SAVMA messaged us a few weeks ago... back to crickets now. So like, I doubt they'll ever do anything for us at all :laugh:
 
finnickthedog said:
Maybe this is fleeting and the impostor syndrome will return. I honestly didn't think this would happen but I feel... ready.

Like, not just "ready to be done" which has been the case for months now but actually capable and confident that I can be a doctor.
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Real world is a huge shock. So much faster. Techs expecting you to tell them what to do instead of the other way around. Spending 2k of a clients money and telling them I have no idea what is wrong with their dog. The stress is unreal, but I love it.

Exotic medicine tip of the week.
If you are the tallest guy in the room, the birds will always perch on your head.
 
ResoluteMike said:
Exotic medicine tip of the week.
If you are the tallest guy in the room, the birds will always perch on your head.
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This also happens if you are short, as long as you have curly hair :heckyeah:
 
finnickthedog said:
Maybe this is fleeting and the impostor syndrome will return. I honestly didn't think this would happen but I feel... ready.

Like, not just "ready to be done" which has been the case for months now but actually capable and confident that I can be a doctor.
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I have moments like this...and then I read an externship review lol. She wrote that I was "not prepared to see clients or patients" and would need "close oversight" as a new doctor because...well, I don't know. I'm actually pretty confident in my client communication skills (in which this externship had zero opportunities for client interaction due to strict curbside - the doctors never set eyes on a client). I had an answer for most of the doctors' questions and when I didn't she would tell me she wouldn't have known either as a new graduate and "probably would have cried". She was an intense woman who thought she could fix me and all my apparent deficits from being educated (or in her view, my lack of education) during COVID times. She told me multiple times in so many ways that I was set up to fail (this started day 1, before a word had barely come out of my mouth). She rated me poorly in technical skills when she only saw me attempt a jugular draw twice in either a fractious animal or a severely dehydrated one (and missed every single other successful draw) and complained in my review of me appearing to only be expecting to observe when she had made it clear I would be limited on what I could do because I was from out of state and was not allowed to participate in surgeries or even "act as a tech". She gave me my first taste of the uphill battle we're all about to climb at least. People who don't know us will doubt us. Doesn't mean they're all right. :shrug:
 
Emily Faith said:
I have moments like this...and then I read an externship review lol. She wrote that I was "not prepared to see clients or patients" and would need "close oversight" as a new doctor because...well, I don't know. I'm actually pretty confident in my client communication skills (in which this externship had zero opportunities for client interaction due to strict curbside - the doctors never set eyes on a client). I had an answer for most of the doctors' questions and when I didn't she would tell me she wouldn't have known either as a new graduate and "probably would have cried". She was an intense woman who thought she could fix me and all my apparent deficits from being educated (or in her view, my lack of education) during COVID times. She told me multiple times in so many ways that I was set up to fail (this started day 1, before a word had barely come out of my mouth). She rated me poorly in technical skills when she only saw me attempt a jugular draw twice in either a fractious animal or a severely dehydrated one (and missed every single other successful draw) and complained in my review of me appearing to only be expecting to observe when she had made it clear I would be limited on what I could do because I was from out of state and was not allowed to participate in surgeries or even "act as a tech". She gave me my first taste of the uphill battle we're all about to climb at least. People who don't know us will doubt us. Doesn't mean they're all right. :shrug:
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I have a lot of words for this that SDN wouldn’t find unacceptable. So I’ll go with just WOW. What a delightful human being. I’m so sorry you had that experience.
 
Emily Faith said:
I have moments like this...and then I read an externship review lol. She wrote that I was "not prepared to see clients or patients" and would need "close oversight" as a new doctor because...well, I don't know. I'm actually pretty confident in my client communication skills (in which this externship had zero opportunities for client interaction due to strict curbside - the doctors never set eyes on a client). I had an answer for most of the doctors' questions and when I didn't she would tell me she wouldn't have known either as a new graduate and "probably would have cried". She was an intense woman who thought she could fix me and all my apparent deficits from being educated (or in her view, my lack of education) during COVID times. She told me multiple times in so many ways that I was set up to fail (this started day 1, before a word had barely come out of my mouth). She rated me poorly in technical skills when she only saw me attempt a jugular draw twice in either a fractious animal or a severely dehydrated one (and missed every single other successful draw) and complained in my review of me appearing to only be expecting to observe when she had made it clear I would be limited on what I could do because I was from out of state and was not allowed to participate in surgeries or even "act as a tech". She gave me my first taste of the uphill battle we're all about to climb at least. People who don't know us will doubt us. Doesn't mean they're all right. :shrug:
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That is why I quit reading any of my rotation reviews. The folks I am working with now, know my worth.
 
Coopah said:
Hey guys, hope everyone is doing well! We appealed FIVE TIMES (I think) and admin was fighting with us and we got in person graduation! Yay! Such a small victory but it feels good 🥰
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Yay! Ours is officially in person but with no guests, which is a huge bummer. The school heard that some people's families were thinking about tailgating outside of the building we're graduating in and threatened to cancel the ceremony
 
vetmedhead said:
Yay! Ours is officially in person but with no guests, which is a huge bummer. The school heard that some people's families were thinking about tailgating outside of the building we're graduating in and threatened to cancel the ceremony
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Yeah we don't have any guests allowed either but it's better than a zoom presentation!
 
Supposed to start a special in-house elective today with two other students...have heard nothing from the faculty clinician...no response to my email about where/when to show up...other student called the hospital this morning to ask if that doctor was on the schedule, and they said "nope, no sign of Dr. X"...

😬
 
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