Class of 2022...how you doin'?

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Forewarn minor & very petty rant incoming. I know end of semester is still a little over a whole 2 months away and there are a bunch of tests I have to pass between now and then, but we have to change buildings come year 3 and it makes me sad. It's probably less than 50 yards away from the main building where our mailboxes and the lounge are but it seems so isolating because we are the only class over there. It also has this ugly orange color in it. I just want to stay in the main building. 🙁
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
It also has this ugly orange color
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I love the color orange. I was seriously obsessed with finding a side chair in orange for my living room for a couple of years until I found the perfect one. I painted the basement at my old house a wonderfully hideous shade of orange from the 70's. I am currently wearing an orange and turquoise shirt that I made for myself and would never ever wear in public but I LOVE IT. Orange. 🙂
 
genny said:
I love the color orange. I was seriously obsessed with finding a side chair in orange for my living room for a couple of years until I found the perfect one. I painted the basement at my old house a wonderfully hideous shade of orange from the 70's. I am currently wearing an orange and turquoise shirt that I made for myself and would never ever wear in public but I LOVE IT. Orange. 🙂
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I like orange in moderation. Like I would probably love your orange and turquoise shirt. You would probably love the room. The white boards are surrounded by this very rich orange. It's just too much at once for me. They decided to panel the ceiling in it as well-which I don't really understand. All our other classrooms are bland though so I guess they figured to finally give us something to brighten up the room.
 
genny said:
I love the color orange. I was seriously obsessed with finding a side chair in orange for my living room for a couple of years until I found the perfect one. I painted the basement at my old house a wonderfully hideous shade of orange from the 70's. I am currently wearing an orange and turquoise shirt that I made for myself and would never ever wear in public but I LOVE IT. Orange. 🙂
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Shoulda gone to Oregon State 😉
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
I like orange in moderation. Like I would probably love your orange and turquoise shirt. You would probably love the room. The white boards are surrounded by this very rich orange. It's just too much at once for me. They decided to panel the ceiling in it as well-which I don't really understand. All our other classrooms are bland though so I guess they figured to finally give us something to brighten up the room.
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... has this room always been orange?! This just goes to show how over being in the classroom I was by 3rd year cause I do not remember it being orange. I clearly paid so much attention to my surroundings last year :laugh:
 
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genny said:
I love the color orange. I was seriously obsessed with finding a side chair in orange for my living room for a couple of years until I found the perfect one. I painted the basement at my old house a wonderfully hideous shade of orange from the 70's. I am currently wearing an orange and turquoise shirt that I made for myself and would never ever wear in public but I LOVE IT. Orange. 🙂
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ziggyandjazzy said:
Shoulda gone to Oregon State 😉
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Or University of Illinois 😉
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Seriously though. Vet Med is turning orange one wall at a time.
 
WildZoo said:
Tennessee is also orange...and I strongly dislike orange unless it's an accent color
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My fiance also hates orange. As in, we cannot have any orange involved in the wedding.
 
Caiter92 said:
... has this room always been orange?! This just goes to show how over being in the classroom I was by 3rd year cause I do not remember it being orange. I clearly paid so much attention to my surroundings last year :laugh:
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I haven't been in it a lot, but I also hate the color orange and it doesn't stick out in my memory as having been orange, either. Now next time I go there I won't be able to focus on anything else :laugh:
 
@genny omg, one of THOSE people :laugh: I remember when we were buying a house and you’d see people’s pictures online and it was like HOW do people live with a dark forest green dining room?! Or orange basement, or other equally bold color choices! I don’t mind a well-done richer color choice (we have a medium blue bathroom which is about as daring as I will go) but everything else is much softer/more muted.
 
Original Color of my room
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After painting 🙂
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(I left that 1 wall yellow as an accent wall! Plus most of it is covered with a big bookshelf!)

And the blue really makes the yellow look lighter (more sunny!)
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Miranda Senft said:
Original Color of my room
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After painting 🙂
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(I left that 1 wall yellow as an accent wall! Plus most of it is covered with a big bookshelf!)

And the blue really makes the yellow look lighter (more sunny!)
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My friend painted her baby’s nursery a similar yellow...:lame: ours is a pale mint. I really didn’t want to end up with mint chocolate chip green :laugh:
 
that redhead said:
@genny omg, one of THOSE people :laugh: I remember when we were buying a house and you’d see people’s pictures online and it was like HOW do people live with a dark forest green dining room?! Or orange basement, or other equally bold color choices! I don’t mind a well-done richer color choice (we have a medium blue bathroom which is about as daring as I will go) but everything else is much softer/more muted.
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My husband balances me out, as he is a black and white kind of person. Most of our walls are white, and I just add crazy colors wherever he lets me. Usually my kitchen is bright yellow, but I haven't done that in this house yet. I like deep red for the master bedroom. And some sort of bright blue somewhere. I like warm colors like oranges and browns for the basement so it doesn't feel so cold in winter.
 
genny said:
My husband balances me out, as he is a black and white kind of person. Most of our walls are white, and I just add crazy colors wherever he lets me. Usually my kitchen is bright yellow, but I haven't done that in this house yet. I like deep red for the master bedroom. And some sort of bright blue somewhere. I like warm colors like oranges and browns for the basement so it doesn't feel so cold in winter.
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I’m definitely a cool colors person 🙂
 
Did my first ever surgery today!!!! :smuggrin: (Or at least part of it lol)

Our school hosts a low-cost spay/neuter clinic several times a year, and takes lots of volunteers. There were some extra “scrub in assistant” spots left that they opened up to 2nd years and I got one. The intern I was with was awesome and after opening and demoing one side, let me do the other side and the uterine body, and then also half of the body wall sutures and intradermals.

I feel a little bad because talking with most of my classmates, very few of them were able to do much besides suturing or observing. I just got really lucky with a cool clinician, plus I’ve learned in our teaching hospital to be extremely forward about stating when you want to do something.
 
Idk if any of you guys feel the same way as I'm feeling right now, but I don't feel ready to start third year(in like 6 months). I just feel like sometimes I learn/study to survive from exam to exam but end up not retaining much of the information that I'll be needing later on in clinics...:nailbiting: I don't understand how some of the clinicians (esp the internists) retain all this immense pool of information and apply them to clinical situations right on the spot.
 
Nalra095 said:
Idk if any of you guys feel the same way as I'm feeling right now, but I don't feel ready to start third year(in like 6 months). I just feel like sometimes I learn/study to survive from exam to exam but end up not retaining much of the information that I'll be needing later on in clinics...:nailbiting: I don't understand how some of the clinicians (esp the internists) retain all this immense pool of information and apply them to clinical situations right on the spot.
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I feel this so much
 
Nalra095 said:
Idk if any of you guys feel the same way as I'm feeling right now, but I don't feel ready to start third year(in like 6 months). I just feel like sometimes I learn/study to survive from exam to exam but end up not retaining much of the information that I'll be needing later on in clinics...:nailbiting: I don't understand how some of the clinicians (esp the internists) retain all this immense pool of information and apply them to clinical situations right on the spot.
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Years of practice and experience! They've been doing this stuff for a while, they've seen similar cases before. Learning things in class is also far different from learning them in a clinical setting and getting to actually apply them to cases.

Everybody feels pretty much this way as they go through school. And on and on throughout their careers to some extent too. It's normal, just remember you don't have to know everything.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
Did my first ever surgery today!!!! :smuggrin: (Or at least part of it lol)

Our school hosts a low-cost spay/neuter clinic several times a year, and takes lots of volunteers. There were some extra “scrub in assistant” spots left that they opened up to 2nd years and I got one. The intern I was with was awesome and after opening and demoing one side, let me do the other side and the uterine body, and then also half of the body wall sutures and intradermals.

I feel a little bad because talking with most of my classmates, very few of them were able to do much besides suturing or observing. I just got really lucky with a cool clinician, plus I’ve learned in our teaching hospital to be extremely forward about stating when you want to do something.
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Ayyyy! V nice. Just did the same thing last week and yesterday as well -- cat spay, cat neuter, and even a dog neuter that was pre-scrots cause of some dermatights. Just take it and run!

Nalra095 said:
Idk if any of you guys feel the same way as I'm feeling right now, but I don't feel ready to start third year(in like 6 months). I just feel like sometimes I learn/study to survive from exam to exam but end up not retaining much of the information that I'll be needing later on in clinics...:nailbiting: I don't understand how some of the clinicians (esp the internists) retain all this immense pool of information and apply them to clinical situations right on the spot.
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We need that google glass tech to just pull that info up 😆
 
Is anyone going to the AASV Conference in Atlanta this weekend?
 
Does anyone have resources about infectious disease prevalence (for dogs) by region/state in the US? I have an assignment that’s sort of driving me mad lol. I’ve used a ton of resources including small animal differential diagnoses, my path book, and a variety of online resources. I haven’t been able to find anything that includes prevalence within populations by regions. For instance, in a dog with respiratory signs and certain neuro signs in a certain state, I have no idea how to find if distemper is more likely than an endemic fungal infection vs something else. Thanks for any help!! I’m getting frustrated 🙁
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Does anyone have resources about infectious disease prevalence (for dogs) by region/state in the US? I have an assignment that’s sort of driving me mad lol. I’ve used a ton of resources including small animal differential diagnoses, my path book, and a variety of online resources. I haven’t been able to find anything that includes prevalence within populations by regions. For instance, in a dog with respiratory signs and certain neuro signs in a certain state, I have no idea how to find if distemper is more likely than an endemic fungal infection vs something else. Thanks for any help!! I’m getting frustrated 🙁
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I know for a fact that the New York State government (like, where the veterinarians work) does NOT compile this type of data. I'm not sure about other organizations/other states. Kind of useless but makes me feel as though other states are likely the same.

You might be able to find things by specific disease- like the American Heartworm Society publishes this about HW specifically.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Does anyone have resources about infectious disease prevalence (for dogs) by region/state in the US? I have an assignment that’s sort of driving me mad lol. I’ve used a ton of resources including small animal differential diagnoses, my path book, and a variety of online resources. I haven’t been able to find anything that includes prevalence within populations by regions. For instance, in a dog with respiratory signs and certain neuro signs in a certain state, I have no idea how to find if distemper is more likely than an endemic fungal infection vs something else. Thanks for any help!! I’m getting frustrated 🙁
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I feel like this is a bit difficult as even then it depends. For example here a top differential would be VF, but depending on signalment, previous history (travel, vaccines, etc.) then sure distemper could be more or less likely.
 
sheltermed said:
I know for a fact that the New York State government (like, where the veterinarians work) does NOT compile this type of data. I'm not sure about other organizations/other states. Kind of useless but makes me feel as though other states are likely the same.

You might be able to find things by specific disease- like the American Heartworm Society publishes this about HW specifically.
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Yeah I have definitely looked at some of the incidence maps for common parasites, but can’t find basically any info on less common parasites, viruses or bacteria
FrostySparrow said:
I feel like this is a bit difficult as even then it depends. For example here a top differential would be VF, but depending on signalment, previous history (travel, vaccines, etc.) then sure distemper could be more or less likely.
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Arizona is one of the ones being asked! and I’m definitely answering with VF. But there’s other regions she is asking about that are less straight forward... like central CA. and it’s pretty hard to find/ impossible to find incidence rates for any mycosis or viruses which is driving me a bit insane lol. I feel like I’m going in circles at this point 🙁

Just in general I’m finding very little data on the “common-ness” of different vet diseases which I’m finding annoying and also surprising.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Yeah I have definitely looked at some of the incidence maps for common parasites, but can’t find basically any info on less common parasites, viruses or bacteria

Arizona is one of the ones being asked! and I’m definitely answering with VF. But there’s other regions she is asking about that are less straight forward... like central CA. and it’s pretty hard to find/ impossible to find incidence rates for any mycosis or viruses which is driving me a bit insane lol. I feel like I’m going in circles at this point 🙁

Just in general I’m finding very little data on the “common-ness” of different vet diseases which I’m finding annoying and also surprising.
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If it’s CA Central Valley/Coast, VF is pretty big there as well from what I’ve been taught and the research I’ve read.
 
Fungal stuff in Tennessee for sure, but distemper isn't super uncommon either
But yeah I can't think of anywhere that would compile that kind of data...actually students from schools in different regions would probably be a good resource since we're sometimes taught to our region :laugh:
 
Nalra095 said:
Idk if any of you guys feel the same way as I'm feeling right now, but I don't feel ready to start third year(in like 6 months). I just feel like sometimes I learn/study to survive from exam to exam but end up not retaining much of the information that I'll be needing later on in clinics...:nailbiting: I don't understand how some of the clinicians (esp the internists) retain all this immense pool of information and apply them to clinical situations right on the spot.
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It comes with time and practice. You'd be surprised by how little you have to know off-hand if you're competent at knowing what you need to look up and roughly the priority of what things you should look up when. The things clinicians know off hand are usually things they do all day or the things that got beaten into them during residency. Ask your professors things outside of their main field of specialty sometime, you'll see that they've also deleted a lot of information from their memory banks because they either don't need it all the time or can get on-the-fly consults from other clinicians about it.

The best thing I ever told a clinician was "I have no idea but I'll find out".
I think it's unrealistic to expect anyone to know everything all the time, but being able to:
1) Look for problems
2) Troubleshoot
3) Identify problems
4) Troubleshoot
5) Be suspicious that something might be a problem and go to your resources to confirm whether it is
6) Troubleshoot
7) Look up ideas when you have no idea how tf to make a coherent story from the clinical picture of your patient (can this go on a problem list???)
8) Troubleshoot
9) Take note of and look up topics or issues you didn't understand during the rotation
10) Troubleshoot
are really some of the most important skills you can bring to the table during clinics. Remember that you're there to learn, not to know everything. Be forgiving of yourself, ask questions, work your best to improve your skills, and focus on your patients to guide your learning and progress.
 
WildZoo said:
Fungal stuff in Tennessee for sure, but distemper isn't super uncommon either
But yeah I can't think of anywhere that would compile that kind of data...actually students from schools in different regions would probably be a good resource since we're sometimes taught to our region :laugh:
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Lol we weren't asked about Tennessee but good to know 😛
Anecdotally I saw a lot more issues with viral diseases in SA (like FIV, FeLV, distemper) when living in Indiana than in Oregon. I think a lot of it is economic status and culture. But I feel like it's pretty strange there is no way to actually compare the rates seen in these states! It seems like something that is very important

And for Oregon, I'm coming up with salmon poisoning and cryptococcus if anyone wants to know about region species things here haha
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Does anyone have resources about infectious disease prevalence (for dogs) by region/state in the US? I have an assignment that’s sort of driving me mad lol. I’ve used a ton of resources including small animal differential diagnoses, my path book, and a variety of online resources. I haven’t been able to find anything that includes prevalence within populations by regions. For instance, in a dog with respiratory signs and certain neuro signs in a certain state, I have no idea how to find if distemper is more likely than an endemic fungal infection vs something else. Thanks for any help!! I’m getting frustrated 🙁
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This gets difficult as I feel like a lot of it is a feel for the area. Frankly a lot of infectious diseases have WAY similar signs too, so sometimes I feel like it's not that important to have them ranked in a specific order on a DDx list so long as the most similar/likely agents are in your top 3.

There are available maps of countrywide distribution of various fungal agents, but that's because they are generally relevant to human health since the maps are made by the CDC, so distemper/parvo/etc maps aren't really generated to that level from my understanding.

I will say that clinical history is often most helpful to rank ordering differentials, though knowing what's prevalent in an area is obviously helpful in certain cases. Young animals from areas with generally poor vaccination rates (like southern TX, reservations, low income areas) vs adult hunting dogs just finishing a back country trip hunting hogs will have very different rank lists.

I know this isn't helpful, but sort of how I think about it.

Oh, unless they're talking about a coughing indoor/outdoor cat in CO. Then it's got plague.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Lol we weren't asked about Tennessee but good to know 😛
Anecdotally I saw a lot more issues with viral diseases in SA (like FIV, FeLV, distemper) when living in Indiana than in Oregon. I think a lot of it is economic status and culture. But I feel like it's pretty strange there is no way to actually compare the rates seen in these states! It seems like something that is very important

And for Oregon, I'm coming up with salmon poisoning and cryptococcus if anyone wants to know about region species things here haha
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in TX, it's infectious something or other until proven otherwise. Toss on basically every tick-borne and flea-borne illness you can think of, plus pretty much anything viral (especially if it's a weird one they say will only show up on boards)

I legit saw a dog that had adenovirus-1 a couple years back. Plus I've seen canine herpesvirus, about a million parvo outbreaks, a couple of distemper outbreaks, babesia, ehrlichia, anaplasmosis, Chagas. wtf is that about.

TX is basically the Mecca of Infectious Disease.
 
vetmedhead said:
This gets difficult as I feel like a lot of it is a feel for the area. Frankly a lot of infectious diseases have WAY similar signs too, so sometimes I feel like it's not that important to have them ranked in a specific order on a DDx list so long as the most similar/likely agents are in your top 3.

There are available maps of countrywide distribution of various fungal agents, but that's because they are generally relevant to human health since the maps are made by the CDC, so distemper/parvo/etc maps aren't really generated to that level from my understanding.

I will say that clinical history is often most helpful to rank ordering differentials, though knowing what's prevalent in an area is obviously helpful in certain cases. Young animals from areas with generally poor vaccination rates (like southern TX, reservations, low income areas) vs adult hunting dogs just finishing a back country trip hunting hogs will have very different rank lists.

I know this isn't helpful, but sort of how I think about it.

Oh, unless they're talking about a coughing indoor/outdoor cat in CO. Then it's got plague.
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Oh no we get literally basically no history on this it’s literally like “dog from x with these 3 non specific signs what’s your one differential diagnosis?” And I’ve talked to the prof and apparently she thinks there she be a clear correct answer for these. It’s a bit astounding lol

and this reminds me! Of when they were thinking of canceling MLS games due to the plague in CO haha
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Oh no we get literally basically no history on this it’s literally like “dog from x with these 3 non specific signs what’s your one differential diagnosis?” And I’ve talked to the prof and apparently she thinks there she be a clear correct answer for these. It’s a bit astounding lol

and this reminds me! Of when they were thinking of canceling MLS games due to the plague in CO haha
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That's pretty silly. We used to get a lot of "here's a signalment and chief complaint" questions, but they usually asked for top 3-5 differentials depending on what it was
 
vetmedhead said:
in TX, it's infectious something or other until proven otherwise. Toss on basically every tick-borne and flea-borne illness you can think of, plus pretty much anything viral (especially if it's a weird one they say will only show up on boards)

I legit saw a dog that had adenovirus-1 a couple years back. Plus I've seen canine herpesvirus, about a million parvo outbreaks, a couple of distemper outbreaks, babesia, ehrlichia, anaplasmosis, Chagas. wtf is that about.

TX is basically the Mecca of Infectious Disease.
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I had a dog from TX that I was fostering in NH that had valley fever. First confirmed case of it. God damn Texas, god damn.
 
Coopah said:
I had a dog from TX that I was fostering in NH that had valley fever. First confirmed case of it. God damn Texas, god damn.
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If you like hogs, I believe we are also the only state (or one of the only) that still has pseudorabies and swine brucellosis thanks to our feral swine population

(The commercial populations are all free, to be clear. But it's out there)
 
vetmedhead said:
If you like hogs, I believe we are also the only state (or one of the only) that still has pseudorabies and swine brucellosis thanks to our feral swine population

(The commercial populations are all free, to be clear. But it's out there)
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Yup, I remember learning that about Texas. Good stuff lol
 
vetmedhead said:
If you like hogs, I believe we are also the only state (or one of the only) that still has pseudorabies and swine brucellosis thanks to our feral swine population

(The commercial populations are all free, to be clear. But it's out there)
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What the hell, Texas
 
kaydubs said:
Yup, I remember learning that about Texas. Good stuff lol
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My friends used to make fun of me in our -ology classes by playing a game of how many pathogens/parasites we learned about could be found in TX

As a bonus I was pretty good at most of those classes because of extensive personal experience with the pathogens lol
 
WildZoo said:
What the hell, Texas
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We're also the only state that's allowed to have cattle babesiosis! Because the USDA said eff it to trying to completely eradicate it and set up the tick quarantine line instead

We've also been the center of the last few equine piroplasmosis outbreaks in the US (actually the county over from where I live).

Like I said, Infectious Disease Mecca
 
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