Einstein vs Dartmouth

[ItsLupus]

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Which one would you pick? I am definitely one of those few people who would be equally happy in a city vs some place like hanover. Location aside, I wanna hear your opinions. 👍

 

[mdeast]

Which one would you pick? I am definitely one of those few people who would be equally happy in a city vs some place like hanover. Location aside, I wanna hear your opinions. 👍

What are your interests? Are you interested in academic medicine/research? Einstein might be better for this, as I don't think there's a whole lot of research going on at Dartmouth. I think the cool thing about that school is the clinical clerkships. I have friends there, now in M3...and they have well developed linkages with hospitals in SF. So they're spending a good 6 months of their M3 year living in San Francisco....which is a far better place to be than the Bronx (IMO). Interesting too to get a varied clinical experience in a sort of sleepy New England town and a bustling city. Also adds a little diversity to where you live.

Otherwise, it's a toss up. I think the main differentiator between the two schools is that Einstein is probably slightly better in research and in an urban area (although, not really a fun area). Dartmouth is pretty isolated, but if you like going skiing and the small town feel, then that seems like a plus.

 

[jleelee]

Hi there! I just recently posted a similar question and many people provided their input. You might find some useful information there. I can't speak to Dartmouth, but I rambled on about Einstein a bunch in the thread:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=729919

Good luck choosing!!

 

[ItsLupus]

I'm a California resident. Coming back here to do rotations in SF would be a HUGE plus for me. Dartmouth's financial aid office is giving me tons of money while i'm still waiting on einstein to get back to me on that service/scholarship.

Wouldn't you all say Dartmouth is more "prestigious"? Come residency time, won't the dartmouth name go further?

This is such a dilemma, a few months ago, I was worried I wont' be accepted anywhere. Now i'm doing this, gotta be thankful 🙂

 

[jbz24]

I'm a California resident. Coming back here to do rotations in SF would be a HUGE plus for me. Dartmouth's financial aid office is giving me tons of money while i'm still waiting on einstein to get back to me on that service/scholarship.

Wouldn't you all say Dartmouth is more "prestigious"? Come residency time, won't the dartmouth name go further?

This is such a dilemma, a few months ago, I was worried I wont' be accepted anywhere. Now i'm doing this, gotta be thankful 🙂

No not at all. Dartmouth's prestige comes from its undergrad. I would say Einstein is more prestigious but not significantly enough to matter for residency.

 

[bonsaitree1]

No not at all. Dartmouth's prestige comes from its undergrad. I would say Einstein is more prestigious but not significantly enough to matter for residency.

I think Dartmouth has a better match list than Einstein.

In regards to the research question..it depends what you're interested in I guess. Dartmouth has some great health policy research, with their Dartmouth Atlas and all.

If it means anything to you, USNews puts Dartmouth at 34 and Einstein at 38, but remember that Dartmouth is MUCH MUCH smaller in terms of class size/faculty (so dollars/faculty member is greater - I believe).

Also, AECOM class size is 183 vs Dartmouth at 83. Up to you if you like big or small.

 

[jbz24]

I think Dartmouth has a better match list than Einstein.

In regards to the research question..it depends what you're interested in I guess. Dartmouth has some great health policy research, with their Dartmouth Atlas and all.

If it means anything to you, USNews puts Dartmouth at 34 and Einstein at 38, but remember that Dartmouth is MUCH MUCH smaller in terms of class size/faculty (so dollars/faculty member is greater - I believe).

Also, AECOM class size is 183 vs Dartmouth at 83. Up to you if you like big or small.

I didn't realize they were so similarly ranked. It's hard to compare match lists due to differences in size of classes, but Einstein historically matches well in spite of their rank. I think there are too many other differences to worry about than rank/prestige, which are very similar between the two schools.

 

[LRAccord624]

I can't speak for einstein, but I LOVED dartmouth. As long as you are okay with the location- for me it was a little cold and isolated (a little different from Houston, no? 🙂)- it was awesome. There actually seemed to be a lot of research going on and they seemed very interested in helping entering students get involved quickly. It also seemed really individualized since the class size was so small. I bet dartmouth's ranking would be much higher if the ranking took their size into account. I do admit that all the away rotations kind of made me uneasy- you never know how accepting the multitude of available institutions are to new students.

Good luck with your decision!

 

[mmmcdowe]

What are your interests? Are you interested in academic medicine/research? Einstein might be better for this, as I don't think there's a whole lot of research going on at Dartmouth. I think the cool thing about that school is the clinical clerkships. I have friends there, now in M3...and they have well developed linkages with hospitals in SF. So they're spending a good 6 months of their M3 year living in San Francisco....which is a far better place to be than the Bronx (IMO). Interesting too to get a varied clinical experience in a sort of sleepy New England town and a bustling city. Also adds a little diversity to where you live.

Otherwise, it's a toss up. I think the main differentiator between the two schools is that Einstein is probably slightly better in research and in an urban area (although, not really a fun area). Dartmouth is pretty isolated, but if you like going skiing and the small town feel, then that seems like a plus.

I actually would have assumed the opposite. There is quite a bit of research going on at Dartmouth and it does have the pedigree of academia attached to it. You don't have to do your MD research under just an MD after all, lots of great Phudders at Dartmouth as well. Now Dartmouth research vs NYC research is another thing entirely. I think though that great points have been made. Big versus small, out doors versus urban. I would have gone to Dartmouth personally, though I don't know how I would have lived without a 24 hour coffee shop.

 

[SpaceDementia]

From what I know about both schools (I interviewed at Dartmouth and really enjoyed it, but did not apply to Einstein), I would definitely choose Dartmouth.

Per my interview day, the research at Dartmouth is of high quality but it's just on a smaller scale. That's why it's ranked in the 30s, but it's a well-regarded medical school and also one of the oldest. They also match nicely from what I remember. Really neat hospital as well... and for what it's worth it's the main school in that area (caring for patients from within a huge radius), whereas there are a ton of schools in NYC.

Hanover is beautiful, as is the Dartmouth campus (and that also entails the opportunities that come with an undergrad campus). Dartmouth is a great institution and the bigger name. I would've loved the tranquility there, the gorgeous setting, the tight-knit student body, and definitely the abundance of outdoors activities. Things I didn't like were the need for a car and the potential to be bored with the location.

 

[green247]

I was on a similar boat then decided to go with the wrong choice.

If you want a place with things to do, classmates that wake up and look forward to school, a place where minorities and cultures are celebrated, a place whose grading system is collaborative instead of cut-throat, and a place where profs grade you based on criteria and not how much they like you, and a place where you can openly express how you feel and have any kind of privacy, and if you like decent facilities, choose Einstein.

 

[physicsnerd42]

I was on a similar boat then decided to go with the wrong choice.

If you want a place with things to do, classmates that wake up and look forward to school, a place where minorities and cultures are celebrated, a place whose grading system is collaborative instead of cut-throat, and a place where profs grade you based on criteria and not how much they like you, and a place where you can openly express how you feel and have any kind of privacy, and if you like decent facilities, choose Einstein.

The OP has probably already made his or her choice. I'd just like to say, however, for anyone who does a forum search with a similar question in the future: I've definitely loved my time at Dartmouth over the last four years (only four more to go!) and I've had the opposite experience you've had. My classmates have always helped me out and I've never felt excluded or had anything but good relations with my profs. I can't complain about the facilities (other than they should finally move the first two years from Hanover to DHMC). I'm not really sure what you mean about the opinions/privacy thing. You're definitely entitled to your opinion, but I thought I'd give mine: I have no regrets about coming here.

 

[amine2086]

I was on a similar boat then decided to go with the wrong choice.

If you want a place with things to do, classmates that wake up and look forward to school, a place where minorities and cultures are celebrated, a place whose grading system is collaborative instead of cut-throat, and a place where profs grade you based on criteria and not how much they like you, and a place where you can openly express how you feel and have any kind of privacy, and if you like decent facilities, choose Einstein.

Although I did not apply to Dartmouth and know, from personal experience, that Einstein is a great school, I would take the opinion of anyone with grand total of 2 posts with a big bag of salt.

 

[searun]

I was accepted to Dartmouth in the 2006-2007 admissions cycle. I loved the school and would have gone there if I had not been accepted to my top choice. I know that I would have thrived in the rural setting of Dartmouth and would have been very happy (although, ironically, I attend med school in a large urban location). I love outdoor activities, snowboarding, fishing, backpacking, hiking. I just think that New Hampshire is gorgeous and the student body and faculty at Dartmouth seemed very supportive and chill.

I did not apply to Einstein so I can not offer an opinion. But unless you are a hardcore urban person, Dartmouth has alot to offer. It was very tough for me to turn down my acceptance to Dartmouth.