Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

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StartingoverVet said:
I am having thoughts on zenge. Not really concrete,
*ISo-Ed him and doesn’t really seemed to have helped the village much,
*mostly pokes at what other people say (could be their style so IDK) without really giving much.
*I don’t understand the Clem-Zenge relationship, but that is neither here nor there, just doesn’t fit well to me. Maybe they are masons.
*i Thought the whole fluff saga was a bit stretched. Most of us saw it for what it was, but zenge seemed hell bent on getting our approval to take out fluff, which wasnt really possible.
*don’t know them at all - never played together I believe - but he seems like a really good player in his interactions but without good results so far and mostly offbase on most of the stuff,
*would zenge be the type of wolf to come out and try to act like a vigilante and get our approval to take out a fellow villager (that we were sketchy on but he knew wasn’t lupine)? It’s a bold play but some wolves would do that. If wolves had a second kill it would muddy the waters a bit there.

it’s not enough for me to push a yeet vote yet, but there is a lot to “not like” there. Anyone else have similar feels?


i still feel like alley is a possibility, but Nate never answers my questions on her, which is strange. And she has so little substance to evaluate IMO. I still think poppy was trying to throw us off the noob course and I know Alley is NOT a noob (well to me yes, but I know not really). I quickly looked through her posts and find nothing helpful but nothing damning. Very milquetoast play which could be her wolf style.


my only other suspicion remains mother mothy. Haven’t RE examined her yet. Will do so later.

tl;dr So other than ”she who will not be named: zenge, mother, and alley are my potential choices to yeet.

thoughts?
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I’m pretty confident it’s not alley.

It could be mothy, but I have a hunch she’s an easy misyeet target. Mayo also is certain she’s not it and is certain about Wiisp so I kinda don’t want to touch them.

Zenge:
I don’t know what to think about Zenge (and by association Clem). His whole outing of SAR’s role so early and insistence on a read when there’s obvious pointers of the opposite is very weird to me. I like his behavior today better, but I’ve known him to be a much more careful and secretive player.
There are 2 games where I wolfed and he was village, in one; I role claimed his role accidentally and he acted like he believed me and engaged in conversation with me (opposite to everyone else who was yeeting me)
In another game he found me wolfy pretty early, but still wasn’t that argumentative; in fact I was pretty reactive and he caught up to it. These are my only 2 experiences so there’s not much to go from there.
I’ve never seen him so frustrated and argumentative about reading me wolfy before; usually it’s the other way around.

AM:
I hear you about AM. I’ve been one of the ppl she always suspects early in the game (just like Zuri). Your points against her are concerning but she’s always like that about mechanics. Plus what Lawpy, or whoever said it: she wouldn’t have made a huge deal about wolves not having a defined faction if she knew Miranda would die and her faction would be revealed. But it could also be a wolfy argument to sow suspicion and doubt in our heads.

Im thinking I might go for one of the rezzed ppl today; probably vis. It would give useful info.
 
Zenge142 said:
Why is SOV so high up your reads list?
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It's not a ranked list sob. I am choosing to believe their faction leader claim at the moment, and by process of elimination it's not hard to figure out where SOV and Wiisp lie.

StartingoverVet said:
tl;dr So other than ”she who will not be named: zenge, mother, and alley are my potential choices to yeet.
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This is my POE list atm as well.

motheatenlysis said:
Mayo can vouch for me, but I don’t want to out their role unless they want to.

But ya’ll are legitimately yeeting a villager.
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Ah yes. The vouches. Seems like a large portion of this game is people outing other people's roles and mechanics on their behalf :')

Are you and mayo death-linked as well?

@holdthemayo what do you have to say about moth's claim that you will vouch for her?

"You guys are yeeting a villager" is the same defense Poppy used.
 
Sorry this is so disorganized, trying to pull from memory instead of ISOing for hours. In order of roster, not sorted by reads. Would appreciate input


Santygrass - Village vibes, vocal about yeeting miranda because of her role, not concerned about him at the moment

HW_88 -> holdthemayo - Probably need to do an ISO to see if he's still eeking me out at all. AM claims he is within his more recent village meta

Clem J - somewhat absent, didn't feel like a wolf when he stumbled in high but... :shrug:

motheatenlysis - Boob clear, have liked her responses to the TMI inquiry and being pushed. Sounding village. Not really interested in yeeting

alleycat03 - Village vibes, early poppy sus name drop. Looks good to me right now

genny - weeeee I don't even remember anymore. I had village points on her on a mental sticky note that got lost in my brain. I need to start writing things down

SARdoghandler - Strong village vibes. I think there were other reasons?

Zenge142 - Still think he's probably village for all the reasons I've said before

Animal Midwife - True to her village meta even if the people who haven't played with her before/haven't played in a long time don't like her reasoning. She just hates mechanics, NAI. I agree with whoever said something about why would wolf!AM be so loud about her argument if she knew her packmate was going to die and disprove her

StartingoverVet - Only been feeling village vibes, arguemts between him and AM feel v/v. Somethingsomething vouch something Wiisp

justafluff - Still think probably village for all the reasons I've said before

zuriburi -> Lawpy (zuri village vibes) - Thought Zuri was village before sub in. Lawpy doesn't bus. The end

chicandtoughness - Strong village vibes, pushed poppy iirc. All good to me

Wiisp - Village vibes, something about vouching for SOV, etc etc. Feels fine to me

Viscernable - rezzed by poppy? concerned

NateTheLesser - rezzed by fluff, can't say I'm concerned about him right now but he's not in the blocc


So the biggest ??? are:
HW_88 -> holdthemayo
Clem J
Viscernable
NateTheLesser
 
justafluff said:
Poppy hasn’t been a wolf before this game though. I don’t disagree Genny might have asked her to bus but still
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That doesn't negate that she told me, in her PM, that she would have no problem with bussing if necessary for the gamestate.
 
Lmao... and what is this gamestate? Who is the wolf in this gamestate?
 
I'm fine with ginny sus, since they just kinda evaporated in nothing after being yeeted the first time

@Aprilthearab
I'm not likely to vote anyone in your bottom cept maybe Vis and that's only vecause I feel like they had a shift and tone after being revived, I want to double check tho. I really doubt fluffs revive is somehow negative utility for town unless they are bad which I don't believe even tho Nate is claiming to not be part of the church anymore, nothing has changed with how they originally played and how they've been playing since they've been revived
 
Wiisp said:
I'm fine with ginny sus, since they just kinda evaporated in nothing after being yeeted the first time
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I'm also fine with it, but if we're concerned about an alpha then we should probably keep looking elsewhere first
Wiisp said:
@Aprilthearab
I'm not likely to vote anyone in your bottom cept maybe Vis and that's only vecause I feel like they had a shift and tone after being revived, I want to double check tho. I really doubt fluffs revive is somehow negative utility for town unless they are bad which I don't believe even tho Nate is claiming to not be part of the church anymore, nothing has changed with how they originally played and how they've been playing since they've been revived
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Yeah, I'm not necessarily convinced any of them have to be wolves, but they ended up there as a result of true POE because everyone else more or less has village points that they don't. Vis is my biggest concern hence the vote

But if Vis flips wolf and we assume the other three are village, then that means there are people with village points who don't actually belong in the village and they need revisiting
 
justafluff said:
I’m even more certain Genny might be a wolf since, she didn’t move to Miranda yesterday and after Wiisp suggested wonda should role seer her, wonda died.
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I think the first half is kinda irrelevant whether u vote there are not after a while isn't good or bad, maybe more bad as it goes on, it would have to depend when they acknowledged everything and where the train was at
 
Wiisp said:
I think the first half is kinda irrelevant whether u vote there are not after a while isn't good or bad, maybe more bad as it goes on, it would have to depend when they acknowledged everything and where the train was at
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If I remember correctly she joked she might waffle when sporty was asking if she should close. So she def had the chance to move over.
 
@Animal Midwife
isoing is a pain on this site
questions

1. Do u know who they voted this game
2. What is town SOVs track record with voting wolves
3. In their wolf games, do they ever push and/or vote town? (how much do this push their buddies over town)
 
Wiisp said:
@Animal Midwife
isoing is a pain on this site
questions

1. Do u know who they voted this game
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Which game in particular? And do you mean the final vote or all votes?
Wiisp said:
2. What is town SOVs track record with voting wolves
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I'm not sure actually. It's definitely not fully polar or to his deepwolfing record or anything though.
Wiisp said:
3. In their wolf games, do they ever push and/or vote town? (how much do this push their buddies over town)
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Yes. But there's heavy priority for pushing/actually voting partners even if he's shading villagers in the same post. I assume this is so he's associated with any wagon that takes off rather than being in the "expected" bussing position.
 
@Animal Midwife this game, I know they voted both poppy and miranda, i know they voted
voted Clem early, then vote PV

their early voting is definitely noticeable and feels different from the early games I've read from all their wolf and town games, I find its hard for wolves to jump around quickly like that, but on note, both votes were extremely weak

I definitely can see what u mean by how they talked about their wolf partners in that game, and how they talked about Poppy here, but again them being my leader makes this weird, Im not sure how flavor could make this work but im gonna look around the wiki and see what I find.

still can't imagine myself voting my leader
especially when my role card has a specific win con? in regards to what the leader of Golden Deers, needs to do or attempt to do
 
Wiisp said:
@Animal Midwife
isoing is a pain on this site
questions

1. Do u know who they voted this game
2. What is town SOVs track record with voting wolves
3. In their wolf games, do they ever push and/or vote town? (how much do this push their buddies over town)
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I wonder if @SummerTheLynx is still around. i think he kept data on old games iirc. I would be curious to see that data too.
pretty sure my playing style keeps on changing though. I wonder how useful the analysis is over so many years.
 
Wiisp said:
@Animal Midwife this game, I know they voted both poppy and miranda, i know they voted
voted Clem early, then vote PV

their early voting is definitely noticeable and feels different from the early games I've read from all their wolf and town games, I find its hard for wolves to jump around quickly like that, but on note, both votes were extremely weak

I definitely can see what u mean by how they talked about their wolf partners in that game, and how they talked about Poppy here, but again them being my leader makes this weird, Im not sure how flavor could make this work but im gonna look around the wiki and see what I find.

still can't imagine myself voting my leader
especially when my role card has a specific win con? in regards to what the leader of Golden Deers, needs to do or attempt to do
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The Clem thing Was a silly vote and unvote right away. if I was a wolf I would have just left it there, and casually moved away later.
I am not big on moving votes around early in the game unless I have a strong reason to. It’s mostly random anyway.
 
I don’t think Zuri/ Lawpy is a wolf. Miranda voted for him early. I really think the death knight was a joke
 
meh there is only like 3ish possible twsitd that are like important
Kronya
Cleo
and the Death knight

I think socially we can find them if they are within the factions, or indepedent
but im not voting SOV, i think that is really silly
 
Wiisp said:
meh there is only like 3ish possible twsitd that are like important
Kronya
Cleo
and the Death knight

I think socially we can find them if they are within the factions, or indepedent
but im not voting SOV, i think that is really silly
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I think there must be 2 wolves or 3 if Vis got resurrected as a wolf…
 
I'll be here later since I have a couple ppsts that I quoted while catching up, but

The Death Knight isnt loyal to TWSID fwiw . But I cam see why Wisp says that is likely there would be a TWSID infiltrated in Black Eagles IF we base ourselves only on things that happened in-game and stuff.
Fmpov I wouldnt lean more into one house than the other and just know that with their replacement schtick they could be infiltrated anywhere and just analyze people and if they claim to be from a faction see if their approach to the game adds up from being of that faction since game start, if it makes any sense
 
Santygrass said:
replacement schtick they could be infiltrated anywhere
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fair point, I just find it hard to believe that its a leader because I have reason to believe from my rolecard, that leaders are just the leaders trying to find each other

so I would need some super crazy reason to think I should vote for my own leader, especially if the counter wagon is AM at some point
 
justafluff said:
I don’t think Zuri/ Lawpy is a wolf. Miranda voted for him early.
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How early? Was it Zuri or Lawpy? Because my understanding of wolfing with Lawpy sounds like he spams wolf chat screaming for his pack mates to bus him.

It’s all “bus me pls” “bus me bus me bus me” etc.
 
(I mean I have no mech info on her, if that's what you're asking. She just seemed purely town at that point)
 
Zenge142 said:
How early? Was it Zuri or Lawpy? Because my understanding of wolfing with Lawpy sounds like he spams wolf chat screaming for his pack mates to bus him.

It’s all “bus me pls” “bus me bus me bus me” etc.
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(It was d1, so zuri. 5th vote for him, which pushed him into the lead. With like 5 hours to go, so plenty of time to switch. But not inconsequential)
 
(Looks like only 3 pages to catch up on from today, so that's cool)
 
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