Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[HRH Queeb SAR]

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Dubz why have some of your posts made me sad.

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz why have some of your posts made me sad.

I don't know SAR, did you forget to read them with my usual jovial tone?

 

[Animal Midwife]

What was reason to vote for chic before anyone posted anything?

You're trying to make me burn my posts on things you already know, aren't you?

You're played with me at least once (depends on if you disregard our other games together). You've claimed to watch me so often through fluff's phone that you think my playstyle is sus (so you would have had to see me do this at least a half dozen times before if you're being truthful about your familiarity with me) and I already told you why, in this thread, on this page, why I voted her.

And I feel like this should be clear but I’m not making this argument about factions with the intent of convincing clever tone that they should care more about factions than wolves. I think everyone who’s not a wolf has the biggest common goal in catching wolves.

I’m saying that your claim that we don’t know about non-wolf factions is wolf-indicative based on my theory of how factions work in this game. I have spelled out that theory to support that case. You still haven’t refuted that point and instead are accusing me of prioritizing faction-hunting over wolf-hunting and that’s not what I’m dying.

How can I refute something you haven't even provided evidence for? Everything you said has been a massive tinfoil based on incomplete or nonexistent information. You compared exclusive 3p (where? name one faction that's specifically exclusive that you know for a fact is in this game and I'll shut up) to April responding to me on thread (which she did? how is that a tinfoil? it's right on the thread???)

When you take out the tinfoil, the only other reason you've said you're voting for me is because "I'm probably village." Do you see the problem?

 

[zuriburi]

Your assumption was that all villagers have a wincon that mentions at least one specific other faction, yes?

yes

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

After a probably not overly thorough catch up, my eye was caught most by Zuri, then (reluctantly) April and somewhat Dubz who I've been vacillating on.

Interesting to me since all 3 have interacted a lot and I don't really see as being scummy with each other so not loving that as an initial flip group.

Yeet Zuri

Since it's my strongest scum read so far. Defenses and arguments feel more from a wolfy lean than village and some of the tone is coming off as potentially tmi from a scum perspective and not enough information from a village perspective

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

I don't know SAR, did you forget to read them with my usual jovial tone?

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

I don't know SAR, did you forget to read them with my usual jovial tone?

I keep getting hung up on the fact you didn't post for the entirety of page two. Which I also simultaneously find hilarious because what a stupid reason to get a ping but also what a commentary on your play 😆

 

[WildZoo]

SAR pls, it's there

 

[kaydubs]

Day 1: What Even Is A Vote Tally?

Santy ()
AM (1) - zuri
chic (1) - AM
Nate ()
Clem ()
PSV (1) - SOV
SOV (1) - genny
Wiisp (2) - alleycat, Nate
genny (2) - DubZ, Santy
zuri (1) - mothy

9/24

missing: @Wondalfy @HW_88 @Clem J @VeggieTrex @potentialsheltervet @Viscernable @SARdoghandler @Zenge142 @miranda920 @justafluff @CaptNemo @Aprilthearab @PlumPoppy @chicandtoughness @Wiisp

Vote closes at 9pm CST (~26 hours)

 

[WildZoo]

I keep getting hung up on the fact you didn't post for the entirety of page two. Which I also simultaneously find hilarious because what a stupid reason to get a ping but also what a commentary on your play 😆

for the entirety of page 2 I was being a good egg and working on reading histo slides and submitting a manuscript

 

[WildZoo]

yes

Okay
If there is at least one wincon that is non-exclusive, why would you assume that wincon would have anything to do with any other faction?

I don't necessarily want others to back me up because I don't want to out my whole faction, that's probably a bad idea. But you are stubbornly continuing down this road when I am telling you there is at least one wincon that does not mention any other faction by name, and we have mod-given reason to believe that would be the case. Versus you just assuming that all villagers are part of factions whose wincons name other factions.

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

for the entirety of page 2 I was being a good egg and working on reading histo slides and submitting a manuscript

Which is why my feels are ridiculous

...but what if wolf?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Everyone please read your god damn role PMs and the rules, especially the bolded parts

For real. I'm catching up and a lot of the posts don't need to exist lol

 

[WildZoo]

Which is why my feels are ridiculous

...but what if wolf?

Not wolf pls, just a village Dubz in the last few months of her PhD pls

 

[zuriburi]

You're trying to make me burn my posts on things you already know, aren't you?

You're played with me at least once (depends on if you disregard our other games together). You've claimed to watch me so often through fluff's phone that you think my playstyle is sus (so you would have had to see me do this at least a half dozen times before if you're being truthful about your familiarity with me) and I already told you why, in this thread, on this page, why I voted her.

How can I refute something you haven't even provided evidence for? Everything you said has been a massive tinfoil based on incomplete or nonexistent information. You compared exclusive 3p (where? name one faction that's specifically exclusive that you know for a fact is in this game and I'll shut up) to April responding to me on thread (which she did? how is that a tinfoil? it's right on the thread???)

When you take out the tinfoil, the only other reason you've said you're voting for me is because "I'm probably village." Do you see the problem?

I only mentioned the chic thing bc you said you don’t vote randomly and it appeared random. If you explained somewhere, I missed it it seems primarily as a way to engage with them but it seems like it could have been a way to engage with anyone. I think it’s a valid approach! I wasn’t trying to denigrate it!

And then I feel like you’re ignoring my whole argument here? I said at one point you’re probably village before I put together this theory I’ve been pushing that non wolves know about different factions and you claimed up too that we don’t so my initial random vote started feeling more likely. Your only engagement with this theory is calling it tinfoil and asking me to name factions (which feels like the fishing that others are accusing me of doing here.) and if you want to call this whole thing that implicates you tinfoil that’s fine, I still find the way you responded to my joke fake claim to be sus. Like it very well could have been a sincere attempt to steer a noob question for the mods to the appropriate place! I just read it how I did.

I also just honestly don’t know what everyone means by exclusive or not. If anyone could care to spell that out I’d really appreciate it because I feel like people are furious with me for talking about exclusive wincons/factions and I have no idea what that means.

 

[WildZoo]

I also just honestly don’t know what everyone means by exclusive or not. If anyone could care to spell that out I’d really appreciate it because I feel like people are furious with me for talking about exclusive wincons/factions and I have no idea what that means.

Exclusive means that a particular faction's wincon prevents another faction (or factions) from winning.

Factions that can only win if other factions are dead are exclusive.

Factions that can win with other factions are inclusive.

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Not wolf pls, just a village Dubz in the last few months of her PhD pls

Yes I'm trying to reconcile because like I always wanna do the

But idk you've just felt so... Helpful to the nooby children without jumping into the fray. I til the whole thing with Zuri where your tone has felt much better


I just didn't immediately kitten into your pocket and it made me 🤔

 

[Wiisp]

When did nate vote me?

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Yes I'm trying to reconcile because like I always wanna do the

But idk you've just felt so... Helpful to the nooby children without jumping into the fray. I til the whole thing with Zuri where your tone has felt much better


I just didn't immediately kitten into your pocket and it made me 🤔

Yeah y'all are just going to have to quote this to see the gif because I refuse to find a different one

 

[WildZoo]

Yes I'm trying to reconcile because like I always wanna do the

But idk you've just felt so... Helpful to the nooby children without jumping into the fray. I til the whole thing with Zuri where your tone has felt much better


I just didn't immediately kitten into your pocket and it made me 🤔

I don't know what to tell you lol I don't even remember being helpful

 

[Animal Midwife]

I only mentioned the chic thing bc you said you don’t vote randomly and it appeared random. If you explained somewhere, I missed it it seems primarily as a way to engage with them but it seems like it could have been a way to engage with anyone. I think it’s a valid approach! I wasn’t trying to denigrate it!

Then why are you using it as a mark against me?

And then I feel like you’re ignoring my whole argument here? I said at one point you’re probably village before I put together this theory I’ve been pushing that non wolves know about different factions and you claimed up too that we don’t so my initial random vote started feeling more likely. Your only engagement with this theory is calling it tinfoil and asking me to name factions (which feels like the fishing that others are accusing me of doing here.) and if you want to call this whole thing that implicates you tinfoil that’s fine, I still find the way you responded to my joke fake claim to be sus. Like it very well could have been a sincere attempt to steer a noob question for the mods to the appropriate place! I just read it how I did.

If you can't name the harmful factions that you apparently have knowledge of, then I have to question your true intentions. Or, maybe, you don't know because it's a tinfoil rather than actual evidence. Like I've been saying from the start.

I also just honestly don’t know what everyone means by exclusive or not. If anyone could care to spell that out I’d really appreciate it because I feel like people are furious with me for talking about exclusive wincons/factions and I have no idea what that means.

Exclusive means they win alone. Village loses if they win. Often, wolves lose too.

That's literally the only type of faction that'd be problematic and worth diverging from wolfhunting for.

 

[Wiisp]

Me and Zoo are officially loverized masons, if u kill them I die too 🤗

 

[WildZoo]

When did nate vote me?

37 minutes ago

Spoiler

Yeet Wisp, yo

(Just FYI I'll be putting out-of-character stuff in parentheses so it's easier to parse out the roleplay stuff from the Nate Thoughts™.

Heading out for a bit, but I'll be around to do a full catch-up later tonight. The vote is a mild ping on Wisp based on his reaction to Clem's early claim of being aligned with Zenge)

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

I don't know what to tell you lol I don't even remember being helpful

Brb

 

[WildZoo]

Me and Zoo are officially loverized masons, if u kill them I die too 🤗

Spoiler

 

[zuriburi]

Okay
If there is at least one wincon that is non-exclusive, why would you assume that wincon would have anything to do with any other faction?

I don't necessarily want others to back me up because I don't want to out my whole faction, that's probably a bad idea. But you are stubbornly continuing down this road when I am telling you there is at least one wincon that does not mention any other faction by name, and we have mod-given reason to believe that would be the case. Versus you just assuming that all villagers are part of factions whose wincons name other factions.

I mean as far as I can tell exclusive or non-exclusive wouldn’t affect whether or not other factions would be named, but I do believe it’s possible that other non-wolf factions could not name other factions as I said in one of these theorizing posts.

 

[Wiisp]

Wouldn't be a Wisp town or Wisp mafia game if I didn't at least have 2 votes in the first 24 hours

 

[WildZoo]

I mean as far as I can tell exclusive or non-exclusive wouldn’t affect whether or not other factions would be named, but I do believe it’s possible that other non-wolf factions could not name other factions as I said in one of these theorizing posts.

Then I still don't know why you're assuming AM is a wolf just because she doesn't know the identities of the other factions

 

[Clem J]

Can anyone on the genny train explain why they‘re sus?

They're mafia and you're their partner #gottem

 

[Clem J]

vote genny

 

[zuriburi]

Then I still don't know why you're assuming AM is a wolf just because she doesn't know the identities of the other factions

I mean for the 1000th time this is just my best guess! And yeah it’s based on a bunch of assumptions! And apparently it doesn’t add up to lots of people! Like if you don’t like it feel free to disagree and move on with your own hunts! At this point there are way more votes on me than Amw

 

[Clem J]

Okay
If there is at least one wincon that is non-exclusive, why would you assume that wincon would have anything to do with any other faction?

I don't necessarily want others to back me up because I don't want to out my whole faction, that's probably a bad idea. But you are stubbornly continuing down this road when I am telling you there is at least one wincon that does not mention any other faction by name, and we have mod-given reason to believe that would be the case. Versus you just assuming that all villagers are part of factions whose wincons name other factions.

They're probably just mafia yeah

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean for the 1000th time this is just my best guess! And yeah it’s based on a bunch of assumptions! And apparently it doesn’t add up to lots of people! Like if you don’t like it feel free to disagree and move on with your own hunts! At this point there are way more votes on me than Amw

You only have two votes. Clam down.

 

[justafluff]

Why do you assume this is the wolf wincon?

Isn't that the definition of a "traditional wolfpack?"

EDit: Ignore, I should have read what was coming

 

[WildZoo]

I mean for the 1000th time this is just my best guess! And yeah it’s based on a bunch of assumptions! And apparently it doesn’t add up to lots of people! Like if you don’t like it feel free to disagree and move on with your own hunts! At this point there are way more votes on me than Amw

Just trying to understand why you would continue to do it when you have other people telling you the assumption is wrong, if you're actually hunting in good faith. That's my point. I don't know AM's affiliation, I'm looking at how you're approaching the case, and it doesn't add up to me to be like "I'm going to continue to assume this even though I'm being told it's an incorrect assumption."

Examining that and trying to figure out your motivations is, in fact, part of my own hunt.

 

[WildZoo]

Isn't that the definition of a "traditional wolfpack?"

Don't know, mods didn't define it

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

@WildZoo , helpfulness, a small study that may be nai:

We do. Is it better than rand? Idk, statistics is villains. The important thing is to put in effort and treat day 1 like it matters because that is useful for analysis on later days, not hand wave it as useless because we don't have much info yet.

Villagers should be wolfhunting as best as they can, even on d1, otherwise you're just giving wolves a place to hide.

#helpful

I'm certainly never confident in my votes d1. It's not like AM has a solid wolf read on the first person she votes every game, it's so she can work towards reading them. You don't have to have a read to vote and question people, it's part of the process.

If you place a vote, and the reason is "I'm interested in how they respond" or "I got a slight ping from x post" then that's the answer. Also recognize being questioned is the whole game, other people are just trying to read your thought process (or they're wolves trying to look like that's what they're doing).

#muchhelp

They're are 3 houses in the video game, Golden Deer, Blue Lions, and Black Eagles

#notsohelpfulbutomgwrongtheremustbeawolf

The OG tags worked (or at least mine did), it's just that the thread didn't open until later so I think people may have cleared the tag notifications and not realized thread had opened

Well...sort of. It's not great. But if you go to search, leave the search box empty, change the dropdown to "This thread" and put the relevant person's username in the Member box, it'll show you their posts. They get clipped though and you can't quote them directly from the search.

#helpyhelp

The first two in particular pinged me but like I said, unsure if AI or if spillover from recent noob crop still needing guidance

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo , helpfulness, a small study that may be nai:


#helpful

#muchhelp

#notsohelpfulbutomgwrongtheremustbeawolf


#helpyhelp

The first two in particular pinged me but like I said, unsure if AI or if spillover from recent noob crop still needing guidance

Oh. Yeah I mean...I feel like that's pretty NAI given this is the first game post-noob game and the kind of stuff I answer all the time. That's all just...me? And I don't feel like it's been in the absence of content either.

#notsohelpfulbutomgwrongtheremustbeawolf

Wait what did I get wrong

 

[zuriburi]

Just trying to understand why you would continue to do it when you have other people telling you the assumption is wrong, if you're actually hunting in good faith. That's my point. I don't know AM's affiliation, I'm looking at how you're approaching the case, and it doesn't add up to me to be like "I'm going to continue to assume this even though I'm being told it's an incorrect assumption."

Examining that and trying to figure out your motivations is, in fact, part of my own hunt.

I mean fair enough. I just have 2 people very loudly telling me my assumption is wrong which feels very possibly like a Wolfpack doubling down on me to refute the argument I’m making that would out them. I am inclined to believe that if you and AM are wolfing together that you’re experienced enough that you wouldn’t be so obvious about it but idk

 

[Wiisp]

I'm still standing with my Zuri is probably town read

 

[WildZoo]

I mean fair enough. I just have 2 people very loudly telling me my assumption is wrong which feels very possibly like a Wolfpack doubling down on me to refute the argument I’m making that would out them. I am inclined to believe that if you and AM are wolfing together that you’re experienced enough that you wouldn’t be so obvious about it but idk

AM can take care of herself, she hasn't been voted out as a wolf in like...idk, years probably. There would be no reason for me to bother arguing with you about it in that case, it's not like anyone else was concerned about it. The only reasons I'm arguing with you are 1) because incorrect assumptions hurt village and 2) to try to get a read on you. It's not about AM.

 

[Wiisp]

@WildZoo
What's Sar's experience with you, basically how common is it for them to analyze ur early game?

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Wait what did I get wrong

"They are are" 😛

And yes, like I said, I'm working on reconciling it given the larger context of the time period this game is being run in. I think the helpfulness to **** posting ratio just felt a bit skewy

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

@WildZoo
What's Sar's experience with you, basically how common is it for them to analyze ur early game?

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo
What's Sar's experience with you, basically how common is it for them to analyze ur early game?

Lots of experience and very common. We used to be able to soul read each other pretty quickly, though it's not as consistent now since she doesn't play as often anymore. Trying to remember the last time we actually played together and were both village...I'll have to think on it.

I'm more concerned when she's not paying enough attention to me tbh.

 

[WildZoo]

"They are are" 😛

Oh god. See this is how broken I am right now, I didn't even notice after staring at that post for minutes.

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

I'm more concerned when she's not paying enough attention to me tbh.

Basically me on any given ww day

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Oh god. See this is how broken I am right now, I didn't even notice after staring at that post for minutes.

Must be woof

 

[WildZoo]

Must be woof

It's true, just put me out of my misery

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

If SDN eats another of their own gifs to censor my hilarity I am rage quitting for today