Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[SportPonies]

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The funniest part to me about the post max is that there have been ~550 posts. So if Dubz has hit her max already then she is single handedly responsible for 1/5 posts in a post restricted game

#onbrand

Dubz: 95 posts

AM will be pleased she has 69 posts

 

[WildZoo]

Oh wow guess I counted wrong

@Santygrass re: April, I realized that something I was mulling about attributing to wolfiness could be explained otherwise. I am not saying she's lock village, but for today at least I am okay with her.

@alleycat03 no, Wisp and I are not actually lover masons lol just symbolic of him village reading me (and I feel inclined to return the favor, though with wariness since I am easily pocketed by such things).

Also, I think you're making me nervous, but I need to read your posts again.

@StartingoverVet I was agreeing with you up until you said AM didn't push back in mechanics enough. I feel like that's the bulk of what she did yesterday lol

@SARdoghandler hi

@Animal Midwife @zuriburi can you both talk about who you are looking at besides each other? I don't think your argument is productive at this point, you're not going to change each other's minds.

@potentialsheltervet @Viscernable where you at?

@Zenge142 1000 words is a lot for you, can we get a tl;dr?

I think that's all I wanted to talk about at the moment. genny still wolfy, and she hasn't done anything to make me change my mind on that.

 

[Wiisp]

@StartingoverVet
Im not willing to go AM yet either, but at this point, this pressure on Zuri feels a bit deaf
honestly this is my first time seeing AM play like this, because I dont have much experience with this AM, and from what y'all are saying, their wolf game got better as well

usually im the one who tunnels AM

 

[Wiisp]

@WildZoo
I think u have presented urself in a very townie way, and I think with your experience, you have a very good handling of the game and these players, and with this being a new environment for me, and even if that wasn't the case, I like bouncing off players, my ability to concentrate has gotten worse over the years, + with the lack of good way to keep track of player's post counts, no automated VC, and no full iso capabilities, it only increases my problems

I think Zuri and Midwife focusing on each other is bad for day 1 progression

 

[SportPonies]

Dubz: 96
AM: 69
Wiisp: 60
zuri: 50
fluff: 32
April: 31
Santy: 29
SAR: 27
chic: 21
alley: 21
genny: 17
Zenge: 13
Clem: 9
Veggie: 9
Poppy: 8
Wonda: 7
PSV: 7
SOV: 7
mothy: 4, including the one a few posts down from here
Vanilla Ice: 3
Vissy: solely the 2 posts following this
Miranda: 1
Nemo: 1
HW: 0

 

[Viscernable]

I don’t wanna read twelve pages 😢

 

[Viscernable]

Shockingly my strategy of avoiding reading and hoping it goes away has not worked

 

[motheatenlysis]

Morning. Here's you Mothy ThoughtsTM for the morning:

I think the wolves are part of "Those who slither in the Dark" based on the intro write up. I never played the game, but mention of darkness

Major Villagey vibes: AM (tone), Dubz (tone, not yeeting n00blets D1), Fluff (although I had a dream that you're 3p, so watch out lil' bunny...I may flip flop)

Major Wolfy vibes: Veg (piling on Zuri, general confrontational feels), Zenge, Nate (sorry dad...it's what my spreadsheet is telling me rn)

Maybe Wolf: Chic, Genny (Dubz feel free to change my mind), Capt Nemo

3P: Zuri, maybe Fluff cuz dreams. I think Zuri unintentionally outed their house as Flame Emperor by accident. My best guess is this is a 3P/chaos role.

Prolly Village: anyone else I didn't mention yet. And of course Mothy.

Mothy has a date this afternoon! So will be OOP/AFK until 5/6-ish.

Also totally thought the 100 posts was EVERYONE PER DAY, not PER PLAYER PER DAY. lol. I was wondering why Dubz and AM were posting so much....

Unyeet Zuri
Yeet Veg

 

[Animal Midwife]

What was the last factional game @Animal Midwife ?

Last open one was CYO III. Last closed one was Omitted.

Anyone who has played games I created or played with me knows I love mechanics. I am the anti-midwife. To me, the most fun is finding wolves through mechanics. Having said that, the discussion yesterday is off the rails and mostly a waste of space so early. If I were a wolf, I would just sit back and watch the village burn. No need to stick your neck out when everyone is distracted from the job at hand.
So to me, those who added little to the mechanics discussion are actually more suspect than those involved. Just as a presumption between 2 people equally suspicious or not.
so, let’s cut that out and focus on finding the bad guys.

having said that, I find it extremely weird that AM didn’t go off on her usual mechanics rant to the degree I recall her doing. Now, maybe she has mellowed in the past year, but that does put her on the more rather than less wolfy side, but I tend to be suspicious of her every game I play so not ready to go there yet.

im gonna stick with my PSV vote cause she has said little of value, and her reply to my yeet, was a joke.

I'm post capped. To prevent all my posts from being used up on something that isn't helping village, I'm trying to limit myself. If this is still going at 8pm though, things will look a lot different.

@Animal Midwife @zuriburi can you both talk about who you are looking at besides each other? I don't think your argument is productive at this point, you're not going to change each other's minds.

I'm also interested in PSV, fluff, genny +/- April.

@StartingoverVet
Im not willing to go AM yet either, but at this point, this pressure on Zuri feels a bit deaf
honestly this is my first time seeing AM play like this, because I dont have much experience with this AM, and from what y'all are saying, their wolf game got better as well

usually im the one who tunnels AM

Not letting it go because "being too out there" is a large part of why he won it for wolves last game. I expect to see wolf hunting of other people and not just intentional disregard of experience that doesn't fit his narrative.

 

[SportPonies]

Morning. Here's you Mothy ThoughtsTM for the morning:

I think the wolves are part of "Those who slither in the Dark" based on the intro write up. I never played the game, but mention of darkness

Major Villagey vibes: AM (tone), Dubz (tone, not yeeting n00blets D1), Fluff (although I had a dream that you're 3p, so watch out lil' bunny...I may flip flop)

Major Wolfy vibes: Veg (piling on Zuri, general confrontational feels), Zenge, Nate (sorry dad...it's what my spreadsheet is telling me rn)

Maybe Wolf: Chic, Genny (Dubz feel free to change my mind), Capt Nemo

3P: Zuri, maybe Fluff cuz dreams. I think Zuri unintentionally outed their house as Flame Emperor by accident. My best guess is this is a 3P/chaos role.

Prolly Village: anyone else I didn't mention yet. And of course Mothy.

Mothy has a date this afternoon! So will be OOP/AFK until 5/6-ish.

Also totally thought the 100 posts was EVERYONE PER DAY, not PER PLAYER PER DAY. lol. I was wondering why Dubz and AM were posting so much....

Unyeet Zuri
Yeet Veg

You post like stoat (tonally)

 

[motheatenlysis]

You post like stoat (tonally)

*mothy panics*
STOAT ISN'T PLAYING?!?!

 

[Wiisp]

focus on 3p is interesting, but lorewise, and routewise, it depends
There are two main antagonists of three houses, depending on your choices

either the church, or the Adestrian Empire

 

[SportPonies]

Mod note: I truly cannot express how excited I am to have so many players who have played 3H. It gives me excited trembles.

 

[Viscernable]

As of page three fluff vs AM and zuri vs AM are both reading v/v to me

 

[Wiisp]

Mod note: I truly cannot express how excited I am to have so many players who have played 3H. It gives me excited trembles.

ive played every western released FE except for Shadow Dragons with Marth, only my brother has played that one

Spoiler

cant wait to use lyn in Engage brings back memories

p.s: spoilered the img because it was huge

 

[Viscernable]

The only info I have is the ppl I’m allied with, but no info on their aff.

You know who you’re allied with?

 

[SportPonies]

Shadow Dragons with Marth

Lol this was the first one I played

*the DS one, not the rerelease in 2020

 

[Viscernable]

This isn’t the response I expected from you.

I feel like you do associate AM being stiff and missing jokes with Wolf!AM. Am I misremembering that?

Wait wasn’t april wolfing when she said that? Genuine question I don’t actually remember

 

[CaptNemo]

My child has appeared!!

My ex-manatee! (⁠ﾉ⁠*⁠0⁠*⁠)⁠ﾉ

 

[Wondalfy]

I'm not sure I feel good about voting for genny personally. I feel like a wolf wouldn't just come in and say we shouldn't hunt wolves because 1) they know wolves exist 2) If a wolf, I feel like they would've carefully read the rules to see if wolves are already mentioned.

I don't like that veggie and moth piled on voting for zuri, but also I think this may be some bias from the last game..... not sure the logic behind moth voting for veggie since they basically did the same thing. I do agree with moth though that "Those Who Slither in the Dark" from the character list/description at the beginning about darkness overcoming all is likely the wolf faction. I mean I'm not 100% sure, but there seem to be hints.

There's been quietness from lots of players like my fellow noobs @CaptNemo @HW_88 @miranda920

So far, I think the most fluffy to me is potentialsheltervet so...

 

[Wondalfy]

yeet potentialsheltervet

 

[zuriburi]

****
What is JRPG
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Japanese Role Playing Games. Final Fantasy, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade Chronicles, Dragon Quest, Persona, Pokémon… they typically have epic stories that by the end encounter god and/or the apocalypse, huge ensemble anime casts, turn-based stat-oriented combat systems, and a mostly silent protagonist who the player can name after themselves, but with a main story that’s pretty much the same with some branching paths. Contrasted with Western RPGs like Skyrim, Fallout, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, where combat is typically real-time, the story is often set in a big open world where the player’s story might include spending time with any number of side quests/sections of the world, and the player-character is more likely to be very customizable and have a lot more to say in cutscenes.

JRPGs include some of the greatest games ever made but they can be a real slow burn, often including at least 10 hours where almost nothing’s happening and you’re just learning new system after system.

 

[HW_88]

I'm not sure I feel good about voting for genny personally. I feel like a wolf wouldn't just come in and say we shouldn't hunt wolves because 1) they know wolves exist 2) If a wolf, I feel like they would've carefully read the rules to see if wolves are already mentioned.

I don't like that veggie and moth piled on voting for zuri, but also I think this may be some bias from the last game..... not sure the logic behind moth voting for veggie since they basically did the same thing. I do agree with moth though that "Those Who Slither in the Dark" from the character list/description at the beginning about darkness overcoming all is likely the wolf faction. I mean I'm not 100% sure, but there seem to be hints.

There's been quietness from lots of players like my fellow noobs @CaptNemo @HW_88 @miranda920

So far, I think the most fluffy to me is potentialsheltervet so...

I'm soo behind reading these, I'm trying to catch up 😅

 

[Viscernable]

Do you think Wisp, Santy, and I are wolves too?

I think assuming that anyone who is focusing on wolf hunting is a wolf is looking at things entirely backwards, sorry. Wolves would be more likely to take advantage of the faction setup to direct attention elsewhere. No reason for them to ignore it when they can use it to their advantage, or may even assume that everyone is focused on the other parts of their wincon. It's not like they don't know it's a faction game.

I don’t think (?) the point was “if wolfhunting, wolf” but “if acting as though there are no factions among villagers, as a wolf likely wouldn’t have that knowledge, that’s wolfy”. But that’s how I feel so I may just be projecting.

Anyways, for that reason,

Yeet April

 

[Viscernable]

genny I'm concerned is a wolf

Fluff I'm more concerned is an exclusive-type faction

April unsure

Somewhat agreed on fluff though I’m not ruling out that as a possible additional-wincon-for-inclusive-faction-opposing-wolves

 

[Viscernable]

If my theory is right, based on how you’re challenging Fluff, you’re probably a wolf

Hm

 

[PlumPoppy]

I don't like that veggie and moth piled on voting for zuri, but also I think this may be some bias from the last game.....

I think zuri's aggressive interrogating seems to stick out like a sore wolfy thumb. But I wouldn't be shocked by past game bias. Which also makes it really hard to tell the difference between village!zuri and wolf!zuri. I've never seen how zuri plays village, but considering he seemed to really fool fluff our last game, I'm assuming it's very similar. For now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I'm scared to be wrong again.

There's been quietness from lots of players like my fellow noobs @CaptNemo @HW_88 @miranda920

I've only played one game, but they tended to be pretty quiet, so I'm trying not to let that influence me. Considering we misyeeted noob village for being noob...

So far, I think the most fluffy to me is potentialsheltervet so...

What's making you think PSV. Is it because they've made minimal posts which being a (I'm assuming?) a more experienced player. Conversely, a noob I'm more hesitant to question being quiet. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Viscernable]

wat

Sporty also said this

I thought the factions were just referring to the five things that we added ourselves to on the roster

I'm not entirely sure I believe this lol

I don't have any real reason to believe it, it's just where my brain went lol but I'm also not sure if the factions (whatever they actually are) are strictly alignment-oriented or just... flavor or something, given that Sporty said there's a traditional wolf pack

We can agree that factions exist AND also aim to just wolf hunt given the writeup info we have, those aren't mutually exclusive villager things. Do you think it would make more sense for people to come out on thread and say "I'm not wolf hunting, I'm faction hunting because it's my wincon"?

I see where you're coming from and why you'd reason that but I think this is the exact type of mechanics assumptions that get villagers yeeted

At what point between these posts did you go from believing factions were locations to understanding they were given in role PMs?

 

[Wiisp]

I guess the part referring to me. She calls me wolfy but backtracks saying she thought I was wolfy throughout the noob game, which is irrelevant to this game.

i mean if u were town last game, and people thought u were wolfy then I think it could be relevant in regards to that thought process

 

[Wiisp]

Not letting it go because "being too out there" is a large part of why he won it for wolves last game. I expect to see wolf hunting of other people and not just intentional disregard of experience that doesn't fit his narrative.

i'll keep this in mind, I mean if they keep going on these tangents of bad reasons in regards why people can be wolves, it will be less TWTBAW and probably just wolfy

but as I've said, I've like their posts around their thoughts, I think it tracks, but also, if they are a wolf, Veggies vote, could easily be a partner voting them cause they dont know where else to go

its very common statistically for a wolf to end up with their vote on a partner day 1 at some point, be it RVS, or when they are getting pressure

personally im not a fan of how Veggie ended up there, but again IDK who in this playerbase, is considered to be LHF's yet

 

[Animal Midwife]

i'll keep this in mind, I mean if they keep going on these tangents of bad reasons in regards why people can be wolves, it will be less TWTBAW and probably just wolfy

but as I've said, I've like their posts around their thoughts, I think it tracks, but also, if they are a wolf, Veggies vote, could easily be a partner voting them cause they dont know where else to go

its very common statistically for a wolf to end up with their vote on a partner day 1 at some point, be it RVS, or when they are getting pressure

personally im not a fan of how Veggie ended up there, but again IDK who in this playerbase, is considered to be LHF's yet

Eh, this is veggie's second game so I'm not really bothered by her contributions.

 

[Viscernable]

Again, I think you're looking at it a bit backwards. Villagers know their main goal is still wolfhunting, or at least some of them do. We don't know what wolves were told or how complex or simple their wincon is (another assumption you're making with...no reason unless you have access to wolf chat). Wolves do know it's a factional game, and may assume that everyone else is going to be focused on their factional wincons, since a lot of factional games are structured that way. genny making a statement about the game being about those wincons rather than wolfhunting is quite simply a perspective slip as someone who doesn't know that wolfhunting is still the goal for others

But with this logic shouldn’t genny also know the village-aligned-factions can see there is a traditional wolfpack in the OP?

 

[Viscernable]

🤔

Hey what was that game where wolves didn’t have to reach parity, they just had to give drugs to enough players to make addicts?

Why would that setup make wolfhunting a poor strategy?

 

[Viscernable]

Spoiler

Yeet Wisp, yo

(Just FYI I'll be putting out-of-character stuff in parentheses so it's easier to parse out the roleplay stuff from the Nate Thoughts™.

Heading out for a bit, but I'll be around to do a full catch-up later tonight. The vote is a mild ping on Wisp based on his reaction to Clem's early claim of being aligned with Zenge)

Please elaborate when you have time

 

[Wiisp]

ohh knowing this is veggie's second game kinda hurts my thought process there I think

 

[Viscernable]

I do think it's likely wolves know more about the other factions than it being simply wolves vs village, whether it is part of their wincon or not. Otherwise, again, the game would be breakable by mass claim, and Sporty doesn't design her games that way.

Oh fair

 

[genny]

Why would that setup make wolfhunting a poor strategy?

I never said it did?

 

[genny]

But with this logic shouldn’t genny also know the village-aligned-factions can see there is a traditional wolfpack in the OP?

genny is only good at getting yeeted and choking. The rest of her ww skills have been greatly exaggerated. She doesn’t even know what day it is, let alone what anyone’s wincon is.

 

[genny]

I missed the shuttle bus 🙁

 

[Wiisp]

genny is only good at getting yeeted and choking.

#skillissue

 

[Viscernable]

Yeah to be clear I don’t think you’re wolfing together, I am trying to clarify why a couple people loudly and immediately challenging my theory didn’t lead to me throwing it away immediately, because I’m going to start with the assumption that someone could be shutting it down as a wolf. It still doesn’t really make sense to me for the other 2 houses to have wincons that are fully unrelated to any other faction based on what I’m looking at, but if I were right I would expect more people to be agreeing with me or at least not finding this argument so sus, so my confidence in my theory is waning.

I mean fair enough. I just have 2 people very loudly telling me my assumption is wrong which feels very possibly like a Wolfpack doubling down on me to refute the argument I’m making that would out them. I am inclined to believe that if you and AM are wolfing together that you’re experienced enough that you wouldn’t be so obvious about it but idk

So if you’re not saying they are in a wolfpack together, why is it you don’t believe what they’re both saying about not every faction having other factions referenced?

 

[Viscernable]

I see that you’re saying your faith in it is waning, but why only waning slowly rather than gone if you’re not reading them as wolves?

 

[Viscernable]

Why would other players with secret wincons agree with you that there are secret wincons? Sounds like a recipe for getting yeeted.

I am no longer sure that I follow this argument at all

 

[Viscernable]

I missed the shuttle bus 🙁

Nooo we love a good bus

 

[Viscernable]

Yeet Zuri

I just don't trust what's going on here. Just a bit too confrontational and fishing for my tastes.

Since you played with wolf zuri last game, what was your impression of his gameplay then?

 

[Viscernable]

The mistake is assuming that houses = factions, which I think is a leap that you might be getting stuck in, zuri.

That is by definition a faction…

 

[Viscernable]

But I also think the mods are chaotic enough they would purposefully lead us on with that in an attempt to get us to assume 3 factions + wolf

Oh do you mean the assumption that there are exactly three non-wolf factions of the original three houses?

 

[Wiisp]

I think zuri's aggressive interrogating seems to stick out like a sore wolfy thumb. But I wouldn't be shocked by past game bias. Which also makes it really hard to tell the difference between village!zuri and wolf!zuri. I've never seen how zuri plays village, but considering he seemed to really fool fluff our last game, I'm assuming it's very similar. For now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I'm scared to be wrong again.

so u've seen their wolf game, and its pretty close to this, but u are gunna assume it might be NAI?
kinda weird given u've not seen their town game, I guess

 

[Viscernable]

You could very well have house-mates that are in a different faction or are wolf or are completely 3p.

Nope I’m back to not following you. This makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[miranda920]

I'm not sure I feel good about voting for genny personally. I feel like a wolf wouldn't just come in and say we shouldn't hunt wolves because 1) they know wolves exist 2) If a wolf, I feel like they would've carefully read the rules to see if wolves are already mentioned.

I don't like that veggie and moth piled on voting for zuri, but also I think this may be some bias from the last game..... not sure the logic behind moth voting for veggie since they basically did the same thing. I do agree with moth though that "Those Who Slither in the Dark" from the character list/description at the beginning about darkness overcoming all is likely the wolf faction. I mean I'm not 100% sure, but there seem to be hints.

There's been quietness from lots of players like my fellow noobs @CaptNemo @HW_88 @miranda920

So far, I think the most fluffy to me is potentialsheltervet so...

I had a very busy day yesterday and I’m traveling today! I am reading and trying to keep up while formulating my opinion.

Right now it just seems that people are yeeting randomly on no basis. There really isn’t anything to go off of yet, so I’m not sure how I feel.