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Wiisp said:
@Santygrass
as of right now, Im specifically having a hard time finding out who has an agenda, and who in the LHF's feel like wolves, and everytime I read a LHF I've gone through a bunch, my brain automatically leans town
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Lmaooo , I specifically have the opposite read .

Like, I am finding people with agenda's that feel more factional wincon than wolfy, so having to parse through some reads that I think could be affiliation related to wolfy ones for sure is a challenge
 
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@Wiisp If I am not remembering incorrectly, this game may be good for do comparisons too / take int mind. Most specifically a Village Nate game to maybe see what I refer as in irt the effort part being a pitfall to take into account to nate.

It also has an AM/me wolfpack if you're interested too . I have archived it mostly for later if I have to reread AM . But also lolmeta tbhtbh
 
Santygrass said:
Nate / Fluff are like, the biggest examples of people who I feel is having an agenda, but are doing so with a factional agenda rather than a wolfy one in my mental brain
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I don’t understand why you don’t see them as Wolfy. I find them both Wolfy for different reasons.

I feel like you’re simultaneously saying they’re pushing in a weird way, but then refusing to acknowledge they could be wolves. I don’t understand your reasoning.
 
Zenge142 said:
I don’t understand why you don’t see them as Wolfy. I find them both Wolfy for different reasons.

I feel like you’re simultaneously saying they’re pushing in a weird way, but then refusing to acknowledge they could be wolves. I don’t understand your reasoning.
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Fluff explicitly said that they know who their allies are. So yes, they obviously have an agenda . They have been vouched by SAR and said stuff that its just unlikely to out for a wolf . Thats the basis on clearing fluff for me rn . Like.. dubz? Said, I think its fully possible they are from a exclusive wincon faction too so maybe a problem, but its not something I want to worry rn since fluff is more 'naked' so to speak. Maybe outed was a better term, but Im going to leave it that way.

What reasons do you see wolfy for nate?
I thought their perspective and angles were just factional indicative and he was just looking for people in the same vibe/looking for allies. Zuri is one of them, the handling of zuri adds up to that perspective.
 
holdthemayo said:
Do you find that being shy impacts your playstyle?
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Kay I lied there. I am shy IRL and if impacts me on something is that maybe a bit OMGussy because of that.

But here I just go a little crazy and try to have fun tbh. If I had to define myself with three words it would be : Skill Issue .

You have played games before right? Do you consider yourself to be good at reading some of the players here?
 
Santygrass said:
What reasons do you see wolfy for nate?
I thought their perspective and angles were just factional indicative and he was just looking for people in the same vibe/looking for allies. Zuri is one of them, the handling of zuri adds up to that perspective.
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I didn’t like his D1 April vote. It felt manufactured, and I had/have April as a village read. It was also very off wagon, and it pings me when there are a few big wagons and someone slinks off to vote elsewhere without actually making a big push there and trying to drum up support.
 
Zenge142 said:
I don’t like the pushes Fluff has been making or the logic of some of her arguments.

The quick vote and unvote of veggie stands out as a wolf just sort of looking to see what sticks, and not a villager with conviction in their vote.

Yeet Fluff
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Interested because zenge feels wrong but I felt the same way about this vote as he did
justafluff said:
Yeah I thought it will seem that way. I was the first to bring attention to veg last night and didn’t wanna vote for her due to being a noob. The moment I decide to place a vote, there’s uproar. So I was like “fine I’ll give veg a chance”. I don’t think I’ve pushed anyone else other than being annoyed at midwife, so please, do tell who else I’m pushing so that I can decide who to vote.
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An uproar? One person said they hated it and one person asked you why. That’s not an uproar at all.
NateTheLesser said:
(I've got some rough buckets of "people who seem to be operating based on similar information as me", which includes zuri, Clem, Zenge, fluff. And "people who don't seem to have the same information", which includes AM, Dubz, April, genny.

That's not exactly a POE because we don't know how things map to alignment yet, but I'd rather yeet from the second list than the first list. If that makes sense.

Again, still only about half caught up so those could change)
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I didn’t like this post. I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion of zenge on the same level as same info with fluff and zuri who’ve said so much. Feels like a perspective slip imo.
justafluff said:
The majority being AM and DubZ? I unyeeted veg cause I decided I didn’t wanna vote a noob wolf on D1. I still think she’s wolfy, and btw so feel miranda and Nemo. I won’t vote for them today though.
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What had Nemo done that was wolfy?
Guess im coming in it from a different perspective subbing into the slot but I think I’ve seen them post like … 5x max?
zuriburi said:
I feel like fluff is always trying to avoid upsetting the majority??
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I agree with this. And don’t like it. But it felt like it was a defense?
potentialsheltervet said:
Because assumptions about mechanics with no evidence to back that up is dangerous, and it doesn't really matter what the wolf faction is called imo.
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I went on the wiki this morning and those who slither in the dark is a whole ass enemy of the church and I’d put money on that being the wolf pack and not just some cryptic wording
miranda920 said:
I guess that’s what makes it difficult if you aren’t familiar with the game and lore.
I don’t know what all the roles are, but my role is associated with the location I signed up for. So I imagine the roles (which house or allegiance) are based on your location that you signed up for.
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fox tv GIF by Bob's Burgers

I’m gonna pull out maps aren’t I
zuriburi said:
Alright I’ll deliver my pack lists for Amw’s deadline…

I’m not sure if this makes sense as an approach but I’m sorting these into general rationales for my thinking behind each, not necessarily that they would be 100%compatible with each other…

My Faction Theory pack: AMW, April, Chic, potentialsheltervet

My quiet noob pack: captnemo, wondalfy, hw, veg

My Helpful Pocketing Veteran pack: wisp, santygrass, Nate, visc,

All these are ranked most to least suss for me within their individual packs. Feeling generally pretty good about fluff, wildzoo, genny, and most of the people toward the bottom of my second 2 pack theories though including them in case my first theory blows up in my face.
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I don’t even know what to do about this and it’s the weirdest way to word POE ever I think but now I realize he’ll never respond to me so maybe I should just stop pulling his quotes and just stare at AM to tell me whether this slot is actually wolfy or not now that Lawpers is in.
 
NateTheLesser said:
(Here's my usual spreadsheet nonsense. I'll keep it updated as long as I'm alive.

Day 1 Votes​

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Waterfall​

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EOD Wagons​

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I can explain more for the newbies tomorrow, gn)
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Nate was actually the thir vote on April there ,

With 6-4-3-2-2 wagons . Idk if I consider it totally off wagon
 
@Zenge142
I would like you to answer Santy's 1615
and I also dont agree with "I dont understand your reasoning", I can vibe with Santy's thoughts on why Nate can be socially town here, like its not always easy for a wolf to focus on subtle things like bringing up a 2 POEs of one being aligned with their reads, and another of not

my problem is i think its mostly meh in terms of execution, because i think including Dubz in the bottom PoE feels a bit lazy given their content, solely because they dont align. That style of reading is good for finding town, there is nothing wrong with liking people that align with you, but I think its a bit simplistic in their approach, especially in terms of Nanook who just kind randomly voted, but again people not being aligned with u on some stuff doesn't always make you a wolf

tldr: I think its good for finding town, but not always great for finding wolves
 
I feel good about Santy, and that's coming from someone who was a wolf with them in champs, as well as seeing several of their town games
 
Wiisp said:
I would like you to answer Santy's 1615
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I did answer it…
Zenge142 said:
I didn’t like his D1 April vote. It felt manufactured, and I had/have April as a village read. It was also very off wagon, and it pings me when there are a few big wagons and someone slinks off to vote elsewhere without actually making a big push there and trying to drum up support.
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Until I see something that makes me lean otherwise, I'm feeling off about Nate. It seems weird he threw in a spreadsheet and peaced out. Maybe that's just Vanilla Ice's style, but from what others are saying, is weird for him.

yeet Nate
 
PlumPoppy said:
Until I see something that makes me lean otherwise, I'm feeling off about Nate. It seems weird he threw in a spreadsheet and peaced out. Maybe that's just Vanilla Ice's style, but from what others are saying, is weird for him.

yeet Nate
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Going to think about this a bit
 
genny said:
i forget, does this mean he is a wolf? or no?
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Zenges is very acutely aware of possible tells. Just for anyone in the future.
Viscernable said:
I’m not sure I believe there are villagers without a faction. So if you’re claiming no faction, that makes me think you’re a wolf who didn’t realize just how factional this game would be and defaulted to the usual “am just normal villager” claim (I doubt that now since people have pointed out wolves have probably been given cover factions/otherwise gotten a heads-up to avoid villager code-y stuff) or that you’re in an exclusive faction, you didn’t realize other factions were much more benign and everyone (my assumption, but I strongly believe at least the great majority are), and so your approach was to deny faction membership
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I love this post and on retrospect Visc being a N1 kill and this post existing makes me raise an eyebrow at april.
chicandtoughness said:
God I'm exhausted.

Have no good read, you haven't posted enough:
HW, Clem, moth, Nate, Nemo

Have no good read, I'm not familiar with your playstyle to know if you're being sus or you're being you:
PSV, alley, Vis, Zenge, Startingover, SAR, April

You have some important role but it's not wolf:
AM, Dubz, Santy

Villagey:
Veggie, Wiisp

Sus because you've been uncharacteristically quiet:
miranda, Poppy, Wonda

Sus because of what you've posted:
genny, fluff, zuri

I'm most sus of fluff.

You've also tagged a few people as wolfy who I don't believe feel wolfy at all (miranda, Nemo). You mentioned that you felt they were wolfy, but aren't going to vote for them? What's your plan, are you waiting to see what the majority votes so you can hop on? If you feel someone is wolfy then vote for them.

This feels sketch to me. We already know it's a multi-faction game. It seems strange that you would naturally assume the other named faction in your role PM is automatically the wolves, especially since our intro flavor text specifically mentions a non-house "darkness" that others have brought up could possibly be the wolves. You've mentioned this second faction multiple times as if it is somehow important to the gameplay, but at this stage most of the seniors have agreed we shouldn't be discussing faction/house mechanics and just focus on traditional wolf hunting.

This was my thought as well. Why does it matter if we don't like your vote if you have a justification for it? Do you need us to like you and your ability to go with the majority somehow?



You literally nonchalantly voted to yeet veggie because of some unjustified wolfy pings (that later you revealed was just because "veggie... briefly mentioned zuri... without giving any more reads"), but then you get on others' cases for similar reasons...?!


Are you implying that every faction knows exactly who is in their faction/house/what-have-you? I find this highly unlikely, because the game would literally be over if everyone just revealed their house/faction allies.

The one faction that WOULD know all their allies is wolf though...

I'm going to
yeet fluff


How is this an odd case? I didn't say that factions definitely = flavor or definitely =/= flavor, I'm just cautioning against us making assumptions about the mechanics of the game and getting stuck in the weeds of trying to figure out who is which house/faction/affiliation (which could all be different things).
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Ya know what I hate? Their 2 POE groups are perfectly in 3s.
Animal Midwife said:
I have never seen a nested readslist like this before. Quite interesting.
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Hum?
justafluff said:
The reasons I mentioned Nemo and miranda is cause they hopped on the zuri train without any explanation and then disappeared. Im not gonna vote for any of the noob class members today (I made up my mind when I unyeeted veg). I was engaging with PSV cause her vote and questioning felt wolfy and eventually voted for her.

I ve literally mentioned it 3 times in response to others inquiring what my thoughts were. Id love to drop it but ppl keep asking me about it.

It wasn't about ppl liking my vote. I didn;t wanna vote veg to begin with, then realized I won't have time to catch up so I voted her as she was my wolfiest lead. Then immediately regretted it.

I've given plenty of reasons for both my votes (veggie and PSV). They are not summed up in one post but if you follow the discussion, I'm actively engaging with whom I'm yeeting unlike what veggie, miranda and Nemo did.

No. And please don't take that as proof that I won't shut up about my wincon/ mechanics, cause you just asked me.
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Can I ask is there something in particular other than dubz saying she was going to leave the noobs alone that lead you to decide to follow suit?
zuriburi said:
alright so to I’m sure the huge annoyance of some folks, but this is the one way of advancing my theory without needing anyone to out themselves. I want to raise that the write up outlines the Adrestrian Emperor (associated with the Black Eagles) the Central Church of Seiros (indeoendent Of the 3 houses/runs the school where all 3 houses attend, and the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus (associated with the blue lions). The empire church and kingdom are at war with each other. The golden deer/Leicester Alliance are not mentioned. This could be the uninformed faction or just not in the game.

The war reaching its conclusion safely or the darkness on the outskirts consuming everyone before they can unite implies to me that the factions at war are able to have compatible wincons while the darkness is the traditional Wolfpack. The way this Game works, none of the people at war are traditional villains so I don’t think any of the houses are the wolves. Also totally beside the point, but nowhere does it say the darkness slithers.

sorry to be so obsessed over this stuff, but the main appeal to me in joining this game was the mechanics and the theme, and I’m currently playing the video game along with the thread, so this is where most of my focus naturally goes. I’m sincerely sorry that so many people find it counterproductive or tinfoil. It’s really just the most valuable thing I feel I have to contribute.
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Ya know what.
I liked this post and it felt genuine. And with this post and Miranda’s post I think I’m going to dive into some maps.
England Samac riseeeeeee
 
Zenge142 said:
Is there a reason you’re defending Fluff this hard?
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Zenge142 said:
You see why it feel like a bit of a defense though, right?
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Zenge142 said:
I feel like you’re simultaneously saying they’re pushing in a weird way, but then refusing to acknowledge they could be wolves. I don’t understand your reasoning.
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I am having a hard time parsing wolf hunting from faction hunting, and Zenge is giving me the biggest issue here. Maybe everyone else is just being more subtle about factions, or maybe I just always think Zenge is wolfy. Or maybe there’s no seating in the next lecture I’m trying to go to, so I’m just staring at my phone waiting until I can close enough to scan the QR code and find a corner to introvert in
 
I'll reread April at some point today, and possibly come to turns with my horse tell means nothing if I think their iso is wolfy
 
PlumPoppy said:
Until I see something that makes me lean otherwise, I'm feeling off about Nate. It seems weird he threw in a spreadsheet and peaced out. Maybe that's just Vanilla Ice's style, but from what others are saying, is weird for him.

yeet Nate
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Do you have thoughts on PSV? :bucktooth:
 
Wiisp said:
Vis died during the night, the execution during the day on Genny failed for some reason
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Yeah I saw that one lol

Who did you vote for again? I asked earlier but you never replied 🙁
 
Wiisp said:
@Santygrass
skimming early game for 3 of the notable people, you/midwife/Nate

you and midwife I dont think are wolves this game, Nate feels tonally different
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I can agree with this. Village!Nates has, at least to me, a characteristic analytical approach that is missing here.
 
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