Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[chicandtoughness]

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Can church and black eagles stop trying to kill each other and focus on wolves. The church is not the enemy. I am not in church myself and that is quite obvious.

There is a bigger problem and that is the wolves. Shooting fluff and/or sars just gets the wolves closer to victory.

Y’all can kill each other after we have wiped the wolves off the map. Every villager of another faction you kill is counterproductive. You can’t win if we are all dead!

My god, I wish I could like a post more than once. We've established fluff/Nate 1.0/SAR are church and that's that. If you wanna achieve your factional wincons there is a time for that later, but most of us will probably not win if wolves overpower us, no matter which factions you've eliminated.

Yeah. If SAR’s allied with me, how does Zenge so firmly believe SAR’s village and I’m wolf?

Zenge, the only configuration in which your sus on fluff makes sense is if the head of the church (fluff) is a wolf. It is a possibility, of course, but with more of the faction flips it seems more likely that TWSID are their own group and not infiltrated.

You've been focusing a LOT on how to decouple fluff and SAR. Here's the thing - no one's really sussing on fluff except you (and a bit from AM) right now, so she's not really in danger of being lynched. She could be the target of an NK though, and you've given very clear instructions to wolves on how to pewpew SAR first and clear the way to pewpew fluff next, so... that doesn't feel great. Idk if there's any way to decouple them really - you mentioned a tinkerer's item but I feel like giving that power to a role feels counterproductive to gameplay. Otherwise we'd be decoupling Masons and Lovers left and right every game.

Winning/Losing: @miranda920

I found this way more funny than I should have, I'm sorry miranda 😅

 

[Clem J]

Day 3 Tally: Cut A Bloody Path

Nate ()
VeggieTrex ()
alleycat ()
miranda920 (12) - zuri>Lawpy, Wisp, VeggieT, Wondalfy, AM, SOV, April, HW>mayo, Santy, alley, chicandtough, fluff
mothy (1) - genny
Zenge ()

13/20

Winning/Losing: @miranda920
Missing: @SARdoghandler @Clem J @Viscernable @NateTheLesser @Zenge142 @motheatenlysis @miranda920

Vote ends 10pm EST/9pm CST/etc TODAY, 1/18/23 (~12.5 hours)

Vote wisp

I understand miranda is outed but my vote isn't necessary so im gonna chill on my vanity wagon

 

[holdthemayo]

I low key want to remove Midwife from the game

Why pls?

 

[Clem J]

Try?

Also just realized I didn't vote, yeet Miranda
@kaydubs

You think im gonna convince you that you're mafia?

Lol

 

[holdthemayo]

Seriously are you even reading the thread?

Thank you.

Yes but like half a day behind and I tend to comment as I read so sometimes it’s outdated or about someone no longer in the game.

I call it the Cray method

 

[motheatenlysis]

@motheatenlysis how are you reading veggies?

No read on Veg today. They've been quiet, which doesn't rub me one way or the other. They also voted miranda, so if they are wolf, that seems like a bus maybe, but also the wolves might know Mir was going to be yeeted today anyway.

You think im gonna convince you that you're mafia?

Lol

I don't think you're going to give me the option to defend myself. I'm not about to role reveal to appease just you, either.

 

[StartingoverVet]

@Clem J , just curious if you have read your role PM and know who is in your faction.
Your play is hard to analyze and I wonder if you know or care. Again, Just curious.

 

[Aprilthearab]

No read on Veg today. They've been quiet, which doesn't rub me one way or the other. They also voted miranda, so if they are wolf, that seems like a bus maybe, but also the wolves might know Mir was going to be yeeted today anyway.

Given the nature of the Miranda outing, the wagon will largely be unreliable for judging votes

 

[alleycat03]

Cause their posts are exhausting

I thought you were joking but apparently not…

Not cool bro. AM is one of the most respected and strongest WW players on SDN. Her 20Qs might make you frustrated, but I promise there’s a “method to her madness” so to speak. She gets results

 

[alleycat03]

I don’t read Clem as wolf. I mean mostly he seems drunk or something (and I say that with love and affection, no judgement).
That would be hard way to wolf.

Lol I have wolfed several times while hydrated…

 

[alleycat03]

I
i would think the wolf rez has to skew wolf even if, as you said, there are exceptions more often than not wolves would Rez wolves.

I have only played a few games with rezzes, and never been in a Wolfpack where we had that ability.

Why would wolves choose to use a resurrection if the person they resurrected wasn’t guaranteed to be a wolf? That would be directly against the wolf wincon and be one more person they would have to misyeet or kill. I guess some wolves are willing to take the risk?

 

[alleycat03]

Actually, it's historically 50/50. What's rare is wolf rezzing 3p.

How does that benefit the wolves at all

 

[alleycat03]

Yes but like half a day behind and I tend to comment as I read so sometimes it’s outdated or about someone no longer in the game.

I call it the Cray method

PbPA

 

[Animal Midwife]

How does that benefit the wolves at all

The same reason abstaining from killing does. Sometimes it's just for the mind games.

 

[alleycat03]

Vote wisp

I understand miranda is outed but my vote isn't necessary so im gonna chill on my vanity wagon

You know Wisp a lot better than most of us here.

Can you point me to your post explaining why he’s wolfing or give a tldr?

 

[Wiisp]

I don’t read Clem as wolf. I mean mostly he seems drunk or something (and I say that with love and affection, no judgement).
That would be hard way to wolf.

Lmao I don't really feel an agenda coming from Clem, Clem caught my wolf in Syn. And I just think thay he thinks he's done it again

Still not much I can refute since he's only said he doesn't like how I talked about Genny

 

[Aprilthearab]

genny    5    (Dubz, Clem, alley, Poppy, Santy)
zuri    5    (SAR, Veggie, AM, genny, CaptNemo)
fluff    5    (Zenge, PSV, April, chic, miranda)
PSV        4    (SOV, Wondalfy, fluff, zuri)
April    2    (Vis, Nate)
Nate    1    (mothy)
mothy    1    (Wisp)

@Zenge142 how do you feel about Miranda parking her vote on fluff?

 

[Wiisp]

Its very likely that each faction might have a revive, that's my assumption, outside maybe the ashen wolves from what ive noticed

 

[Wiisp]

If anyone wants town or wolf games from, I'll be glad to grab some once I get out of work

 

[Aprilthearab]

Its very likely that each faction might have a revive, that's my assumption, outside maybe the ashen wolves from what ive noticed

How many factions are likely to be in the game again? Like five or something? Seems like a lot of rezzes to have in one game, esp one that starts out with 24 players

 

[Wiisp]

If Poppy did revive a town, there is probably more to thay revive, but it also could be thay they knew they were gunna get shot and wanted to create Wixom, but it still seems pretty crazy to make the game harder for their alignment, unless it's some kind of conversion

 

[Wiisp]

How many factions are likely to be in the game again? Like five or something? Seems like a lot of rezzes to have in one game, esp one that starts out with 24 players

Black Eagles
Golden deers
Whatever the blue one is

The church
Ashen wolves

And those that slither in the dark

So 6
And probably people that are unaffiliated with anything

 

[Wiisp]

The problem I have with Midwife is I think they are informed and are feigning ignorance, and idk what that means yet

In particular there are some reads that im not sure how they got to

 

[Aprilthearab]

Black Eagles
Golden deers
Whatever the blue one is

The church
Ashen wolves

And those that slither in the dark

So 6
And probably people that are unaffiliated with anything

Yeah I highly highly doubt that there are six rezzes in the game

 

[Wiisp]

Yeah I highly highly doubt that there are six rezzes in the game

When u put it that way, probably not lol

 

[genny]

Yeah I highly highly doubt that there are six rezzes in the game

There are other ways to cheat death.

 

[StartingoverVet]

*********
This has nothing to do with the particular game, but I was reminiscing, and when I started WW-info, wolves usually gave players a choice of conversion or death, but then most of us as mods took away the option (in my case it was mainly because it was just difficult to get an answer from a player overnight and it interrupted moving the game forward).

Anyway, my question to the WW hive is, are there games like this anymore where players are given that option?

A lot of old timers hated conversion. (And I have hardly ever been converted🙁. I am rarely trusted to begin with. Why would wolves add to their woes).

 

[genny]

So I’d like to yeet Miranda. I’d like to yeet whichever rez came from poppy. And then I want to see how I feel about Zenge vs fluff. I feel like there’s a lot on my to do list

 

[genny]

he's only said he doesn't like how I talked about Genny

I don’t like how you talk about genny either. Such big G’s 😱

 

[Aprilthearab]

Anyway, my question to the WW hive is, are there games like this anymore where players are given that option?

I'm not the most experienced player here by any means but I have never seen, played in, or heard of a game like this

 

[Lawpy]

*********
This has nothing to do with the particular game, but I was reminiscing, and when I started WW-info, wolves usually gave players a choice of conversion or death, but then most of us as mods took away the option (in my case it was mainly because it was just difficult to get an answer from a player overnight and it interrupted moving the game forward).

Anyway, my question to the WW hive is, are there games like this anymore where players are given that option?

A lot of old timers hated conversion. (And I have hardly ever been converted🙁. I am rarely trusted to begin with. Why would wolves add to their woes).

I don’t know but I hate conversions and would rather die instead.

 

[Aprilthearab]

So I’d like to yeet Miranda. I’d like to yeet whichever rez came from poppy. And then I want to see how I feel about Zenge vs fluff. I feel like there’s a lot on my to do list

I think Vis was rezzed by poppy. Fluff claimed the Nate rez so unless there's a third rezzer floating around, I'm assuming Vis was poppy's doing

 

[genny]

Anyway, my question to the WW hive is, are there games like this anymore where players are given that option?

Probably not within the past year. Not sure how long ago the last one was

 

[genny]

Fluff claimed the Nate rez

Oh yeah, this is why my math was weird for that earlier post about shooting fluff. What if Nate is like a backup SAR? I meant to write things about that but it was late and I forgot to complete my homework

 

[StartingoverVet]

Probably not within the past year. Not sure how long ago the last one was

A decade?

 

[genny]

A decade?

I haven’t been playing that long yet!

 

[Lawpy]

Oh yeah, this is why my math was weird for that earlier post about shooting fluff. What if Nate is like a backup SAR? I meant to write things about that but it was late and I forgot to complete my homework

Wouldn’t that means Nates would die in fluffy’s place assuming SAR died by then?

 

[genny]

I get my 10yr badge this summer

 

[genny]

Wouldn’t that means Nates would die in fluffy’s place assuming SAR died by then?

Yes that is my incompletely expressed worry

 

[Lawpy]

Yes that is my incompletely expressed worry

Oh i got it now

I think i’m a little more terrified of fluffy now

 

[Animal Midwife]

*********
This has nothing to do with the particular game, but I was reminiscing, and when I started WW-info, wolves usually gave players a choice of conversion or death, but then most of us as mods took away the option (in my case it was mainly because it was just difficult to get an answer from a player overnight and it interrupted moving the game forward).

Anyway, my question to the WW hive is, are there games like this anymore where players are given that option?

A lot of old timers hated conversion. (And I have hardly ever been converted🙁. I am rarely trusted to begin with. Why would wolves add to their woes).

I don't know since people are more careful to choose people who actually enjoy wolfing to convert as of late.

 

[justafluff]

Black Eagles
Golden deers
Whatever the blue one is

The church
Ashen wolves

And those that slither in the dark

So 6
And probably people that are unaffiliated with anything

If we assume 4 ppl in each faction (I know 4 are in the church incl me) that doesn’t leave room for unaffiliated ppl.

 

[justafluff]

*********
This has nothing to do with the particular game, but I was reminiscing, and when I started WW-info, wolves usually gave players a choice of conversion or death, but then most of us as mods took away the option (in my case it was mainly because it was just difficult to get an answer from a player overnight and it interrupted moving the game forward).

Anyway, my question to the WW hive is, are there games like this anymore where players are given that option?

A lot of old timers hated conversion. (And I have hardly ever been converted🙁. I am rarely trusted to begin with. Why would wolves add to their woes).

In the last noob game that run a couple weeks ago, wolves were given that option. But it doesn’t happen in every game.

 

[justafluff]

Oh i got it now

I think i’m a little more terrified of fluffy now

I cant say anything on the matter. I only know SAR’s role cause Zenge claimed that’s what it was. I have no idea of Nate’s role post-rez and neither did I before he role revealed.

 

[NateTheLesser]

(My notifications blew up but it was mostly alley)

 

[NateTheLesser]

(Has miranda been back at all?)

 

[Lawpy]

(Has miranda been back at all?)

No i don’t think so

 

[justafluff]

Actually Nate said he’s not affiliated with me anymore. I don’t think he’s a backup but who knows?

 

[Aprilthearab]

In the last noob game that run a couple weeks ago, wolves were given that option. But it doesn’t happen in every game.

Oh huh I totally missed that

 

[miranda920]

(Has miranda been back at all?)

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