FTF's Worst Idea Yet (Game Over)

[Animal Midwife]

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Are you just gonna have us talk to ourselves

Yes. You're the ones I'm evaluating. Unless you have something you like to say to me that can't be gleaned from talking to each other.

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM do you remember her claim being discussed previously? I'm still rereading

No, everyone has been forced to claim by the threat of death. Can't discuss a claim if it's not physically on thread.

 

[JustPaws]

Yes. You're the ones I'm evaluating. Unless you have something you like to say to me that can't be gleaned from talking to each other.

I mean game wise it's not very enjoyable to just talk to myself and have you never respond but if that's what you need to do then I will keep going and try to think through cray alone

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean game wise it's not very enjoyable to just talk to myself and have you never respond but if that's what you need to do then I will keep going and try to think through cray alone

I'm not exactly what you want me to respond to outside of what I already did.

 

[JustPaws]

No, everyone has been forced to claim by the threat of death. Can't discuss a claim if it's not physically on thread.

Forced to claim? Neither you or I have claimed yet but yours is irrelevant and better left protected just in case

 

[WildZoo]

My response was that I thought Zenge was scummy and his votes were crap. Turns out I was right.

When? I don't see any posts to that effect.

 

[JustPaws]

I'm not exactly what you want me to respond to outside of what I already did.

Dude we used to have conversations that helped me work through things. I cant tell you what I need from you if I dont realize I'm missing something

 

[Crayola227]

No, everyone has been forced to claim by the threat of death. Can't discuss a claim if it's not physically on thread.

My claim wasn't discussed but I thought virgin princess came up that it was in the list twice

 

[JustPaws]

When? I don't see any posts to that effect.

She takes credit for anything she thinks regardless if she has proof she thought it on thread

 

[Animal Midwife]

Forced to claim? Neither you or I have claimed yet but yours is irrelevant and better left protected just in case

I was never dying so that was different. Everyone else has claimed now.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm ignoring the birthday boy to even do anything now. So sorry I'm not gonna be able to go dig anything up.

 

[JustPaws]

My claim wasn't discussed but I thought virgin princess came up that it was in the list twice

Show us where. Yes sunny and I extensively discussed HER discarded role in relation to what she may have selected otherwise

 

[Crayola227]

She takes credit for anything she thinks regardless if she has proof she thought it on thread

Forget you

You're continually twisting and misrepresenting me

#### vote paws ####

Dinner literally has arrived so peace

 

[Animal Midwife]

Dude we used to have conversations that helped me work through things. I cant tell you what I need from you if I dont realize I'm missing something

I'm still confused. How am I supposed to discuss a topic that isn't being discussed?

 

[JustPaws]

Welp at least she actually voted.

 

[JustPaws]

I'm still confused. How am I supposed to discuss a topic that isn't being discussed?

If I say something, and you have a thought about it, sometimes you comment. You aren't doing that but I get what you're saying. It's fine it's just lonely

 

[JustPaws]

I don’t care for this. She’s saying Bob voting for Chaos is opportunistic but it’s literally the first vote on Chaos.

I also don’t like that she’s attacking Bob for voting for Chaos when Chaos is voting for her. It feels like she’s trying to curry favor with the person voting to yeet her.

Yeet Cray

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None of this really matches up with the way I think or play.

The opportunism was jumping on the vote for what you called out. Chaos' claim didn't have a wolfy feel to me.

This is the kinda thing you do that feels stretchy to me.

I don't have issue with Chaos' vote because he kept calling me out for being wolfy in Bioshock, but then also said I did a pretty good job. So I'm not surprised he wants pressure there. Makes sense to me.

I dunno. I don't feel like my wolf style is that buddy buddy or suck up or kiss ass. That feels more like village Cray with DocE in England.

I wasn't, and generally don't, think that many steps as far as votes like you describe. I don't like that it feels like Bob is sheeping your logic, when the claim didn't feel wolfy, your appeal to authority did, and Bob feels sheepy of what I find is wolfy (your post on Chaos). Sheeping wolfy sounding logic or logic I don't agree with isn't a good look for that player being village.

Here is zenge cray vote and her response which doesn't really ping me

 

[Crayola227]

She takes credit for anything she thinks regardless if she has proof she thought it on thread

Needlessly rude as well

 

[JustPaws]

Needlessly rude as well

So your vote was cuz i was analyzing your play, and then I pissed you off not cuz you think I'm scum. Got it

 

[Crayola227]

When? I don't see any posts to that effect.

I pointed out that I didn't like Zenge's vote on Chaos, and a second post he posted throwing sus on me I said was that stretchy thing he does that makes me think he's scum.

I didn't get into it with him when he voted me because I didn't want to risk a repeat of England with him if I was wrong, but I'm sorry everyone, was I supposed to think his logic was less scummy when he voted me for no good reason?

 

[WildZoo]

Here is zenge cray vote and her response which doesn't really ping me

Oh there it is. Always hard finding longer posts like that on ISO.

 

[JustPaws]

Oh there it is. Always hard finding longer posts like that on ISO.

What do you think about it

 

[WildZoo]

YOU HAVE 1.37 HOURS

 

[Crayola227]

So your vote was cuz i was analyzing your play, and then I pissed you off not cuz you think I'm scum. Got it

No you're acting very scummy. I've been actually trying not to get into it with you, but it literally feels like you're determined to pick a fight with me on purpose. And scum loves to do that because I'm reactive.

I barely threw any sus on you earlier and you way overreated and I pointed that out at the time.

I've learned when it's villager vs scum, when you're the villager in that scenario it makes very little sense to give the scum the fight they want.

You're the one driving conflict, for once in my game life I'm not and I'm not going to further because it's someone's birthday.

I wanted to fulfill my obligation to the game host and that's about it.

 

[WildZoo]

Oh man that matches my avatar so well

 

[Crayola227]

I can exactly feel the manip and twisting coming from Paws. It's either paws or somehow Visc or AM is scum and they know it's better not to provoke me if they're trying to lay low.

I've had the vague sense Paws, Visc, and Zenge have been trying to push my misyeet from the start. Visc less so they backed off. Zenge is dead. That leaves Paws to do the dirty. She needs the misyeet so she's going after it.

 

[WildZoo]

What do you think about it

I dunno. Kind of think she's overstating her reaction to his vote. Like yes, she refuted the reasoning in the post, but she didn't say it was crap or that he was particularly scummy. But I'm not sure that kind of revisionism is AI for cray.

 

[JustPaws]

No you're acting very scummy. I've been actually trying not to get into it with you, but it literally feels like you're determined to pick a fight with me on purpose. And scum loves to do that because I'm reactive.

I barely threw any sus on you earlier and you way overreated and I pointed that out at the time.

I've learned when it's villager vs scum, when you're the villager in that scenario it makes very little sense to give the scum the fight they want.

You're the one driving conflict, for once in my game life I'm not and I'm not going to further because it's someone's birthday.

I wanted to fulfill my obligation to the game host and that's about it.

That doesn't make any sense. If I was scum trying to avoid an end game vote for me then I would have ignored you and gone for vis because I KNOW you vote for people who question you even a little. I am literally just re reading you and making sure I didnt miss anything from you vs vis. No one else had even voted yet cuz everyone else was taking time to analyze the game

 

[WildZoo]

Remember that time when wolf!paws brought you (and me) to endgame @Animal Midwife? I'm trying to determine if this feels like that time. It's a little muddied by the sunny redirect.

 

[JustPaws]

I can exactly feel the manip and twisting coming from Paws. It's either paws or somehow Visc or AM is scum and they know it's better not to provoke me if they're trying to lay low.

I've had the vague sense Paws, Visc, and Zenge have been trying to push my misyeet from the start. Visc less so they backed off. Zenge is dead. That leaves Paws to do the dirty. She needs the misyeet so she's going after it.

It literally cant be AM. And all day yesterday you twisted my entire convoy with someone else cuz you couldn't be bothered to recheck the pronouns and tried to push that as scummy so I'm gonna call it projection

 

[JustPaws]

Remember that time when wolf!paws brought you (and me) to endgame @Animal Midwife? I'm trying to determine if this feels like that time. It's a little muddied by the sunny redirect.

Those were the lulz

 

[Animal Midwife]

Remember that time when wolf!paws brought you (and me) to endgame @Animal Midwife? I'm trying to determine if this feels like that time. It's a little muddied by the sunny redirect.

It was terrifying because she killed her only viable scapegoat for the ultimate wifom.

 

[JustPaws]

Spoiler: Day 1

sunshine (1) - AM
Cray (1) - chaos
MsP (1) - alissa
alissa (1) - Paws
chaos (1) - Bob
alissa (2) - Paws, Cray
Paws (1) - Pippy
alissa (3) - Paws, Cray, MsP
Pippy (1) - dubz
Cray (1) - Zenge
Paws (2) - Pippy, April
Paws (1) - April
dubz (1) - Pippy
Paws (2) - April, sunshine
alissa (2) - Cray, MsP
Vis (1) - Paws
Bob (1) - chaos
Bob (2) - chaos, Vis
MsP () -
sunshine (2) - AM, genny
Paws (3) - April, sunshine, alissa
Bob (1) - Vis
alissa (3) - Cray, MsP, chaos
Bob () -
MsP (1) - Vis
alissa (4) - Cray, MsP, chaos, Paws

13/14
Missing: dubz

Spoiler: Day 2

dubz (1) - Pippy
Vis (1) - AM
Vis (2) - AM, Zenge
dubz () -
Zenge (1) - Pippy
Zenge (2) - Pippy, Paws
Zenge (1) - Paws
Paws (1) - Pippy
Cray (1) - Vis
Paws () -
AM (1) - Pippy
AM () -
Paws (1) - Pippy
AM (1) - sunshine
Cray () -
Zenge (2) - Paws, Vis
Paws () -
AM (2) - sunshine, Pippy
Vis (1) - Zenge
Zenge (3) - Paws, Vis, AM
Zenge (2) - Paws, Vis
sunshine (1) - AM
Zenge (1) - Paws
Cray (1) - Vis
Zenge () -
Pippy (1) - Paws
Vis () -
Pippy (2) - Paws, Zenge
AM (1) - Pippy
Pippy (3) - Paws, Zenge, sunshine
Cray () -
sunshine (2) - AM, Vis
AM () -
Paws (1) - Pippy

6/8
Missing: Cray, dubz

I pointed out that I didn't like Zenge's vote on Chaos, and a second post he posted throwing sus on me I said was that stretchy thing he does that makes me think he's scum.

I didn't get into it with him when he voted me because I didn't want to risk a repeat of England with him if I was wrong, but I'm sorry everyone, was I supposed to think his logic was less scummy when he voted me for no good reason?

AM is there any chance your trackers are wrong cuz it seems like cray is lying/"forgetting"

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM is there any chance your trackers are wrong cuz it seems like cray is lying/"forgetting"

My trackers are right. The only person that ever voted chaos was Bob.

 

[Crayola227]

My trackers are right. The only person that ever voted chaos was Bob.

Oh, I thought Zenge did. I felt like he instigated that and it felt bad.

 

[JustPaws]

Like I have no reference to an England game, no idea if that part is a lie either. So one game she is trying to make it up to zenge by not voting them? Is that real? AM have they played a lot together? Cray rarely gives a **** how noobs feel. It just seems so fake rn

 

[JustPaws]

Oh, I thought Zenge did. I felt like he instigated that and it felt bad.

The thing is scum doesn't check they just throw lies at the wall and hope no one looks to see if it's right. That's why your play is scummy

 

[Crayola227]

I don't get to PbPa the same way with the night lock, so it makes it a lot harder for me to not only formulate and express my thoughts, but also to follow events day by day.

The only way I could get through med school was to hand write every.single.thing.

That's how I process information for any sort of retention, I have to interact by reading and then doing some writing.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Like I have no reference to an England game, no idea if that part is a lie either. So one game she is trying to make it up to zenge by not voting them? Is that real? AM have they played a lot together? Cray rarely gives a **** how noobs feel. It just seems so fake rn

I don't know if this is something in her village meta or not. But last her two interactions with Zenge (v/v and w/v, respectively) involved lot about him needing to learn his lesson.

 

[Crayola227]

Like I have no reference to an England game, no idea if that part is a lie either. So one game she is trying to make it up to zenge by not voting them? Is that real? AM have they played a lot together? Cray rarely gives a **** how noobs feel. It just seems so fake rn

This is also kinda crap. I don't care at the time I get pissed or annoyed and run my mouth. I feel awful later and apologize profusely.

I am Zenge's wolf mother and I probably said some of the things I said to him last game more than anything I've ever said in WW, and I think that's saying something. I said before I fear I have ruined that relationship if he holds a grudge. And I wouldn't blame him if he did.

In any case, that didn't make me less inclined to vote there (but I backburned it a bit because he started making better points) but it did make me less inclined to go after him and be very vocal and negative about his play.

Sunny pocketed me in England and I didn't vig her because I wanted to be nicer to her.

Don't sit here and try to paint me as hard hearted.

 

[JustPaws]

I don't know if this is something in her village meta or not. But last her two interactions with Zenge (v/v and w/v, respectively) involved lot about him needing to learn his lesson.

No that's actually in her wolf (scum) meta in my experience but that is admittedly >1yr ago

 

[Crayola227]

This is also kinda crap. I don't care at the time I get pissed or annoyed and run my mouth. I feel awful later and apologize profusely.

I am Zenge's wolf mother and I probably said some of the things I said to him last game more than anything I've ever said in WW, and I think that's saying something. I said before I fear I have ruined that relationship if he holds a grudge. And I wouldn't blame him if he did.

In any case, that didn't make me less inclined to vote there (but I backburned it a bit because he started making better points) but it did make me less inclined to go after him and be very vocal and negative about his play.

Sunny pocketed me in England and I didn't vig her because I wanted to be nicer to her.

Don't sit here and try to paint me as hard hearted.

*some of thr worst things

 

[Crayola227]

This is also kinda crap. I don't care at the time I get pissed or annoyed and run my mouth. I feel awful later and apologize profusely.

I am Zenge's wolf mother and I probably said some of the things I said to him last game more than anything I've ever said in WW, and I think that's saying something. I said before I fear I have ruined that relationship if he holds a grudge. And I wouldn't blame him if he did.

In any case, that didn't make me less inclined to vote there (but I backburned it a bit because he started making better points) but it did make me less inclined to go after him and be very vocal and negative about his play.

Sunny pocketed me in England and I didn't vig her because I wanted to be nicer to her.

Don't sit here and try to paint me as hard hearted.

Or hard hearted to noobs. That isn't true I'm just not always super nice either.

 

[JustPaws]

Don't sit here and try to paint me as hard hearted.

You did that yourself after the **** you continue to say regarding one game that you didnt like and reaming out the newb mode who btw is a super nice person so yeah you are pretty hard hearted imo

 

[Crayola227]

I don't know if this is something in her village meta or not. But last her two interactions with Zenge (v/v and w/v, respectively) involved lot about him needing to learn his lesson.

What games are you referring to exactly here?

 

[Crayola227]

You did that yourself after the **** you continue to say regarding one game that you didnt like and reaming out the newb mode who btw is a super nice person so yeah you are pretty hard hearted imo

She was totally arrogant and saying so doesn't mean I'm hard hearted because you like her.

 

[Animal Midwife]

What games are you referring to exactly here?

England and the Red speed.

 

[JustPaws]

She was totally arrogant and saying so doesn't mean I'm hard hearted because you like her.

That game was a lot of fun, you were the only person who threw a **** fit and continues to bring it up. I saw you mention it just like 3 or 4 days ago in ANOTHER sign up thread

 

[Crayola227]

I just love how Paws is trying to act like I've been somehow trying to victimize her this game. That's how I know for a fact she's lying out her ass. I know who is really trying to twist things and it isn't me. She's been doing it all game with me.

 

[Crayola227]

England and the Red speed.

Zenge did have a lesson to learn, and going by this game and what I've called him out on I would say he's getting better at it.