GGoats ThWWee: Here It GGoats Again - GAME THREAD

[Zenge142]

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i never used my tabloid from N0 so i lost it the next day cycle

I’ve had some items disappear, like the fire extinguisher. There are a couple I’ve been able to hold on to.

Unsure of the mechanism

 

[vampyrica]

I’ve had some items disappear, like the fire extinguisher. There are a couple I’ve been able to hold on to.

Unsure of the mechanism

weird, but then again, i havent asked if i can hoard my items, but also then again, i had neutral items up until today

 

[Zenge142]

weird, but then again, i havent asked if i can hoard my items, but also then again, i had neutral items up until today

Maybe it depends on the item too? Not sure.

 

[WildZoo]

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Manual Tallying Tickles My Autism
Lissa (1) - Greedy
PSV (1) - fruit
fruit (2) - dubz, mkg
Greedy (1) - Lissa
mads (3) - samac, Zenge, beans
beans (1) - Sakuraaa
dubz () -
Zenge () -
samac () -

9/15
yeet close in ~2.5 hours
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D1: An Officialish Tally or Something
Damn shorty usually makes these pretty or something doesn't she

Lissa (0) -
PSV (3) - fruit, Greedy, KJQ
fruit (3) - dubz, mkg, genny
Greedy (1) - Lissa
mads (3) - samac, Zenge, beans
beans (1) - Sakuraaa
dubz () -
Zenge () -
samac () - PSV
clem (1) - vampy

13/15
yeet close in ~1.25 hours

A tie?!?!

(ETA: to be fair, greedy and KJQ did move to samac between this tally and the post below, but since Zenge mentioned counterwagons plural it still seems to indicate soft disapproval for the PSV wagon)

I do find it really interesting that it was only after Samac and I made Mads a legitimate wagon, that other counter wagons started developing.

Villagers should take note...

The wagonomics reeks to high heaven

 

[beans2020]

Lie detector

Not sure if this question will make sense, but is the item actually called a lie detector? Or does it have a fun/flavor name and functions as a lie detector? Like how the opera glasses let you watch a player and the mp3 makes you unconvertable.

 

[Zenge142]

Or does it have a fun/flavor name and functions as a lie detector?

Fun flavor! “No Kid-ing”

 

[Zenge142]

Fun flavor! “No Kid-ing”

Made in the Baahamas

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah I agree with this. I’m liking PSV so far.

Friday (Day 1) at 10:04am, Zenge says he likes PSV so far


Later, around 8:30pm

The fact that y'all are doing this while she's gone from the thread is telling...

I'm going to guess the pack is PSV, genny, and Mads

But crickets when people voted me while I absent? I see how it is smh

You. Are. A. Sussy. Bakka!

Zenge can you talk about what changed your mind on PSV in that time? So I can try to follow the thought process.

Probably actually going to sleep now so don't feel like you have to respond immediately. i just couldn't get the brain to sleep when I said I was going to.

 

[WildZoo]

Which was probably a good thing, just realized I forgot to set my alarm for daytime life 😱

 

[WildZoo]

Hmmm okay but he did tell people to get off the samac wagon when the same people at the time had just been on PSV and could have gone right back to her (Greedy actually did briefly). Would be weird to be that insistent that a group of people that was just voting your packmate should not vote the villager they've chosen to vote for instead.

Maybe I'm calming down.

 

[WildZoo]

@Zenge142 what other items have you held onto? Since you said there were a couple

 

[genny]

Storm knocked out power to my house last night so I lose internet access too since cell service is terrible where I live. Power is not supposed to be back on until tomorrow night so I don’t know how much I will be able to continue playing. Killing me now would be merciful wolfies

 

[genny]

This sucks because I would have voted Zenge over greedy

 

[Zenge142]

Would be weird to be that insistent that a group of people that was just voting your packmate should not vote the villager they've chosen to vote for instead.

BuT wE dOn'T kNoW wHeN sHe wAs CoNvErTeD

 

[beans2020]

I think greedy was onto something before he died. My gut is telling me that the wolves are in zenge, dubz, and maybe vampy. Some of the interactions between zenge and dubz remind me of things I've seen in in person mafia when one wolf is trying to deflect attention off of the other/is trying to seem like an investigative towny.
I feel ok with genny, mkg, and lissa - especially given genny and mkg's village reads of greedy.

 

[beans2020]

I guess you can consider this my gun to head

 

[WildZoo]

BuT wE dOn'T kNoW wHeN sHe wAs CoNvErTeD

Zenge pls. Being so stuck on that point when I'm evaluating from a N0 conversion perspective isn't helping.

 

[Zenge142]

I'm going to use my lie detector on Vamp's statement, I think.

Both Beans and genny have recently expressed suspicion of vampy. Samac had a lot of building suspicion of vampy.

I think I'll start re-reading there, but it'll definitely be where I use my lie detector.

 

[WildZoo]

I think greedy was onto something before he died. My gut is telling me that the wolves are in zenge, dubz, and maybe vampy. Some of the interactions between zenge and dubz remind me of things I've seen in in person mafia when one wolf is trying to deflect attention off of the other/is trying to seem like an investigative towny.
I feel ok with genny, mkg, and lissa - especially given genny and mkg's village reads of greedy.

I am incapable of the level of theater it would require to fake my interactions with Zenge over the last few days. I am trying my best here.

 

[Lissarae06]

Has anyone else held items for multiple nights?

 

[beans2020]

Has anyone else held items for multiple nights?

No. Honestly I haven't had a useful item since the ice cream coupon so I haven't had any reason to hold them anyways.

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah idk. I don't believe the item stuff. Like why would you even holster after saying you were gonna use it in the first place?

 

[Zenge142]

Like why would you even holster after saying you were gonna use it in the first place?

Greedy's response was so incredibly wolfy, I just felt like I'd rather holster and try and get 2 for 1 instead of wasting it.

This is the only item I've gotten that specifies a 1x use so maybe that's why it didn't disappear like the fire extinguisher did? idk

 

[vampyrica]

who do we feel is the most in danger here? there is a reason i ask this question

 

[Lissarae06]

I tried to use an item from an earlier night that did not specify it was a one night only item and was told I no longer had it.

 

[beans2020]

who do we feel is the most in danger here? there is a reason i ask this question

If what zenge said yesterday was true about wolves liking to keep new players until the end, my guess would be genny. They may have reason to keep Lissa and me around and there's enough suspicion being thrown around about you/mkg/zenge/dubz that there may be benefit to keep non wolf players in that group around for future misyeets.

 

[vampyrica]

If what zenge said yesterday was true about wolves liking to keep new players until the end, my guess would be genny. They may have reason to keep Lissa and me around and there's enough suspicion being thrown around about you/mkg/zenge/dubz that there may be benefit to keep non wolf players in that group around for future misyeets.

i mean, idk about genny. i know she said she wouldnt be here (which is totally fine), and i truly believe its not a reverse psychology thing (like i said yesterday with greedy's comments), why would wolves kill genny tonight? i mentioned yesterday that a good reason to yeet greedy would be for his unwillingness to provide effort moving forward should he stay alive, if i was wolf and he wasnt yeeted, i would have kept him to the very end bc he was not willing to cooperate. it's neutral in terms of who it hurts vs helps.

same could be said for genny. wolves could choose to keep her alive tonight despite her asking to be killed because there will be an unstable town (unstable in the sense of being able to come help problem solve due to circumstances).

i like that you say they may keep you and lissa, and that me, mkg, zenge and dubz are in the hot spot right now. that only leaves genny as an outsider. if there is a wolf amongst mkg, zenge and dubz (i excluded me because im not wolf), then wouldnt it they be most likely to kill one of the people in the hot seat right now??

 

[vampyrica]

I'm going to use my lie detector on Vamp's statement, I think.

Both Beans and genny have recently expressed suspicion of vampy. Samac had a lot of building suspicion of vampy.

I think I'll start re-reading there, but it'll definitely be where I use my lie detector.

beans and genny sure, i will accept but samac?...

Quick legacy because I’m playing DnD

Genny
Zenges
Dubz
Mkg
Beans
Sakura
Lissa
Clem
Vamp
Greedy

unfortunately, she is wrong about all three of her most recent bottom three POE so to use samac as an example isn't entirely justifyable.

but other than that, yes. go for it! i want to be cleared once and for all here so we can move on

 

[WildZoo]

i mean, idk about genny. i know she said she wouldnt be here (which is totally fine), and i truly believe its not a reverse psychology thing (like i said yesterday with greedy's comments), why would wolves kill genny tonight? i mentioned yesterday that a good reason to yeet greedy would be for his unwillingness to provide effort moving forward should he stay alive, if i was wolf and he wasnt yeeted, i would have kept him to the very end bc he was not willing to cooperate. it's neutral in terms of who it hurts vs helps.

same could be said for genny. wolves could choose to keep her alive tonight despite her asking to be killed because there will be an unstable town (unstable in the sense of being able to come help problem solve due to circumstances).

i like that you say they may keep you and lissa, and that me, mkg, zenge and dubz are in the hot spot right now. that only leaves genny as an outsider. if there is a wolf amongst mkg, zenge and dubz (i excluded me because im not wolf), then wouldnt it they be most likely to kill one of the people in the hot seat right now??

Because genny has been cleared by outting PSV, barring additional conversions

If there's a wolf among the three of us it would make no sense for them to kill within that group of three, because that just narrows their options for misyeets. You can only really do the fun thing of killing into the POE when you're not in there yourself, unless you only need like one more death to win the game.

All of that is very unfortunate because I would very much like to die.

 

[WildZoo]

Villagers, do not read the spoiler

Spoiler: ATE for wolf eyes only

Please, for the love of goat, please kill me. I have completely lost my mind at this point, I am holding legitimate back and forth conversations with myself in my role PM. One dubz speaks in a calm, measured tone, while the other screams in all caps and will not be consoled. I suspect a third dubz may arise, should I survive this night, and one can only imagine the horrors she will inflict upon the other two. I am begging you to release me from this suffering, lest the insanity bubble over and flood the thread. Thank you for your consideration.

 

[Zenge142]

I feel like both Dubz and I have literally said that it doesn’t seem impossible with what little we do know about the items and set up of this game.

see @WildZoo

Your spitballing about what could be possible is being taken as gospel in an attempt to try and use any wackadoodle excuse to tie me to PSV, instead of just admitting that logically it makes no sense we would be partners.

The idea that you were just "spitballing what if ideas for fun" is completely lost on the thread.

 

[vampyrica]

Because genny has been cleared by outting PSV, barring additional conversions

If there's a wolf among the three of us it would make no sense for them to kill within that group of three, because that just narrows their options for misyeets. You can only really do the fun thing of killing into the POE when you're not in there yourself, unless you only need like one more death to win the game.

All of that is very unfortunate because I would very much like to die.

just because genny is cleared doesn't mean she's immune from being spared tonight. idk, maybe when my time comes to play as a wolf it will be a quick game because i cant understand why her being cleared means a wolf wont choose to spare her if she says she might be inactive? is it a dick move to keep her alive if she says she wont be here? sure. but it's not impossible.

 

[WildZoo]

see @WildZoo

Your spitballing about what could be possible is being taken as gospel in an attempt to try and use any wackadoodle excuse to tie me to PSV, instead of just admitting that logically it makes no sense we would be partners.

The idea that you were just "spitballing what if ideas for fun" is completely lost on the thread.

It's being used by the same person who was already saying it. It's not spreading like some kind of wildfire. No one else has even brought it up.

If you think mkg is a wolf then why does her opinion even matter to you?

 

[WildZoo]

just because genny is cleared doesn't mean she's immune from being spared tonight. idk, maybe when my time comes to play as a wolf it will be a quick game because i cant understand why her being cleared means a wolf wont choose to spare her if she says she might be inactive? is it a dick move to keep her alive if she says she wont be here? sure. but it's not impossible.

No I'm not saying it's impossible im just saying if they're in the hot seat and looking to keep the POE broad, then she might still be the top choice. If they're not in too much danger of being yoten then keeping her alive would be more reasonable. You can do a lot of fun things when you're not too worried about dying lol

 

[WildZoo]

see @WildZoo

Your spitballing about what could be possible is being taken as gospel in an attempt to try and use any wackadoodle excuse to tie me to PSV, instead of just admitting that logically it makes no sense we would be partners.

The idea that you were just "spitballing what if ideas for fun" is completely lost on the thread.

Also I would appreciate it if you would stop throwing this in my face. I already apologized.

 

[Zenge142]

Also I would appreciate it if you would stop throwing this in my face. I already apologized.

I'm just frustrated.

No one else has even brought it up.

No one else has brought it up but it's what everyone on this thread believes and will consider the absolute truth when I'm misyeeted tomorrow.

 

[WildZoo]

No one else has brought it up but it's what everyone on this thread believes and will consider the absolute truth when I'm misyeeted tomorrow.

I don't think that's accurate. I spent a lot of time last night analyzing your posts based on an N0 conversion world. You haven't been under pressure because of a tinfoil. Greedy and AM both thought the conversion was N0 and still pushed you.

 

[Zenge142]

I don't think that's accurate. I spent a lot of time last night analyzing your posts based on an N0 conversion world. You haven't been under pressure because of a tinfoil. Greedy and AM both thought the conversion was N0 and still pushed you.

I guess it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. I'm fairly confident this game is currently a village loss, and it's unwinnable. I recognize that that is entirely 100% my fault. I played badly.

 

[WildZoo]

I guess it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. I'm fairly confident this game is currently a village loss, and it's unwinnable. I recognize that that is entirely 100% my fault. I played badly.

If this is a village loss and you are village it is not your fault

It takes...a village as they say

 

[WildZoo]

And anyway, game isn't over yet. I haven't even finished rereading.

 

[WildZoo]

I mean look at me, I've been under suspicion since D1 and my ONLY claim to being good at this game when I'm village is being able to clear myself. Not like I'm ever actually good at solving. So uh.

 

[WildZoo]

I don't think that's accurate. I spent a lot of time last night analyzing your posts based on an N0 conversion world. You haven't been under pressure because of a tinfoil. Greedy and AM both thought the conversion was N0 and still pushed you.

@Zenge142 I wasn't saying this to be like "You're being pushed because you're playing bad" I was saying it to emphasize that a lot of your focus has been on a scenario that most of us don't even think is true and is certainly not why I started having doubts, so if you could refocus on the N0 conversion world that most of us are operating in and address some of the things I talked about last night then it would be helpful in my attempt to solve (or resolve...re-solve) you

For example this post

Friday (Day 1) at 10:04am, Zenge says he likes PSV so far


Later, around 8:30pm









Zenge can you talk about what changed your mind on PSV in that time? So I can try to follow the thought process.

Probably actually going to sleep now so don't feel like you have to respond immediately. i just couldn't get the brain to sleep when I said I was going to.

 

[Zenge142]

It doesn't matter. Wolves have the votes to misyeet me tomorrow. Not a single person will re-evaluate. That's the end of the game. It's my fault. I really botched this one.

 

[WildZoo]

It doesn't matter. Wolves have the votes to misyeet me tomorrow. Not a single person will re-evaluate. That's the end of the game. It's my fault. I really botched this one.

Hello! I am trying to evaluate right now! No one has declared that we're all voting you tomorrow!

 

[Zenge142]

Hello! I am trying to evaluate right now! No one has declared that we're all voting you tomorrow!

Genny has, Beans has, MKG has, Vampy has. Lissa probably will.


And that's a wolf win. And it's my fault

 

[supershorty]

I will not be around for close tonight because I will be euthanizing a patient.

So behave yourselves when the thread is supposed to be closed and listen to SAR when she says it is closed.

 

[WildZoo]

Genny has, Beans has, MKG has, Vampy has. Lissa probably will.


And that's a wolf win. And it's my fault

I am trying to make sure I was being objective in evaluating you and not being pocketed and I would love if you could engage with that so I can feel better about things, instead of pre-flipping yourself 🫠 Because if I'm going to fight against village consensus I'd like to be like, fairly certain I'm not being an idiot (I'm okay actually being an idiot but I'd like to at least do my due diligence). But I will fight for it if I believe it so could you please just answer my questions, please.

 

[WildZoo]

I will not be around for close tonight because I will be euthanizing a patient.

So behave yourselves when the thread is supposed to be closed and listen to SAR when she says it is closed.

Do you want me to lock it though?

I can also pop, lock, and drop it

 

[supershorty]

Do you want me to lock it though?

I can also pop, lock, and drop it

If you and SAR want to coordinate, sure

 

[WildZoo]

If you and SAR want to coordinate, sure

@SARdoghandler just let me know if you would like to take advantage of Dubzbolt Lock Services