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samac said:
Hello, I don’t think you know me very well yet.
But why specifically me vs Lupin and not the other 2 self voters on the board?
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This is a little odd, especially since I don't think dy had said anything about her reads being particularly related to self voting or not
 
Aprilthearab said:
No, I read Samac fairly well. When I said trust issues I was talking about trust issues with having her as mayor
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More specifically referencing the time that we were PM partners, she was mayor, she thought I was village but then broke a tie in favor of yeeting me just so she could prove a mechanics theory. It's the reason I openly opposed to voting her as mayor in RvB too
 
TelemarketingEnigma said:
this samac vs. April tension is making me uncomfyyyy. In large part because the last game I played with both of them they were so buddy buddy (until we converted samac lol) that this loud claiming of distrust feels really weird. I don't know yet what to make of it, and my interpretation of that previous game was definitely colored by panicking wolf lenses lol
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Agreed
 
samac said:
I had to open a Pm with her and earn it last time too
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Confused. So samac is backing up April's point about distrusting her, when later April clarifies she can read samac and just doesn't trust her as mayor. So which is it? Weird contradictions happening here.
 
Aprilthearab said:
More specifically referencing the time that we were PM partners, she was mayor, she thought I was village but then broke a tie in favor of yeeting me just so she could prove a mechanics theory. It's the reason I openly opposed to voting her as mayor in RvB too
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Edit: accident quote.
 
Aprilthearab said:
Bread and Sporty are usually hard to read because of inactivity, I'm just straight up bad at reading TE, Chaos, and Genny, I have trust issues with AM and Cray, and I've never played with dyachei and played minimally with Cubs
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Can you explain more about your trust issues with me? Is that like just this game or from prior games?
 
Crayola227 said:
Confused. So samac is backing up April's point about distrusting her, when later April clarifies she can read samac and just doesn't trust her as mayor. So which is it? Weird contradictions happening here.
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Being good at reading someone doesn't mean I have a crystal ball D1
 
Crayola227 said:
Also there is no Tenya Ida on the roster, so I gathered without googling this is a flavor reference.

That would be fine, but the homework comment was taking it too far imo.

But sure, pull a Pippy, April. Happy to have wolves come at me and "read" me wolfy for BS reasons. I invite it. I live for it.
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Tryinto figure out why this got an angry react from Sporty and what that means.
 
Aprilthearab said:
No, I read Samac fairly well. When I said trust issues I was talking about trust issues with having her as mayor
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Yeah and that’s reasonable lol
Crayola227 said:
This is a little odd, especially since I don't think dy had said anything about her reads being particularly related to self voting or not
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She just mentioned me vs Lupin in relation to the self votes no?
Crayola227 said:
Confused. So samac is backing up April's point about distrusting her, when later April clarifies she can read samac and just doesn't trust her as mayor. So which is it? Weird contradictions happening here.
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She wouldn’t open a Pm with me because of my betrayal in England when I voted her in a tie. I had to earn her trust back by opening a Pm with her in RvB
 
Crayola227 said:
Can you explain more about your trust issues with me? Is that like just this game or from prior games?
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I've never really gotten a super good hold on reading you in previous games. There are little things that I pick up that sometimes make me think I've got it figured out, but then I don't, and I've defended you when you were a wolf and tunneled you when you were a villager. The times I've been right about you have mostly been because of pack dynamics/compatibility assessments after I've figured out other people
 
dyachei said:
you were talking about dumb reasons to wolf read people, cray? pot meet kettle
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This is overly defensive. In doing PbPa, one looks at each post and questions what it might indicate. That's all. I question motives behind individual posts. It usually doesn't amount to a full read. Until I say "I'm leaning so and so wolfy" or "My POE is..." or "I could vote..." then it isn't a wolf read, yet.

The defensiveness has told me more than your stated leans. I need more from you than just saying who you think is village or wolf, because faking reads isn't that hard as a wolf (doing it well and not giving breadcrumbs to the pack is harder and admittedly I haven't mastered that, but I find it easy as a wolf to manufacture them to begin with).
 
Crayola227 said:
OK, I'd like to hear to @Animal Midwife if she feels her NK choices are influenced more by carefully considered strategy, or are "arbitrary." Because it feels counter to many, many talks I've had with her over the years about strat.
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I consider them to be strategy. It just so happens my partners end up on a similar wavelength me. Things ultimately run as smoothly as possible (all things considered with me trying to die).
 
Crayola227 said:
AM, how did you feel about April's take on Chaos there? How do you feel about April?
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It ended up being the right take, I suppose. I have her in my village leans right now, but I will admit that's heavily influenced by Dina since she seems to be good at reading her.
 
Animal Midwife said:
It ended up being the right take, I suppose. I have her in my village leans right now, but I will admit that's heavily influenced by Dina since she seems to be good at reading her.
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How are you feeling about dy? I think you know dy from MU, yeah? Is this what you expect to see out of village!dy?
 
Zenge142 said:
How are you feeling about dy? I think you know dy from MU, yeah? Is this what you expect to see out of village!dy?
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dy's village play is very tonally similar to her wolf play. I will say a point in her favor is near immediately announcing her ability to read me. Only possibly dubz would know about this. So she could have said nothing until I was in real danger for whiteknighting optics. My reading ability of her is fairly average so a tentative village lean but need more time to see how the gamestate goes.
 
samac said:
Everyone is feeling good about zenge. But something feels off. @Zenge142 wheres those reads friend?
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Dinashadow said:
Agreed, he's been quieter than usual and was very lurky yesterday

But I've seen him do this before in the early game before. I mostly have him in my village reads for now because his push for mayor doesn't seem like something wolf!zenge would do
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Zenge142 said:
Okay, here's my reads. I generally like to base my thoughts on who people are pushing to get rid of and if the logic of their argument makes sense, so this is a lot more "feels" based than I generally like to do, but election days are different from normal play so it's what we've got for now.

Village:
Dinashadow - I don’t think she would make her first run for mayor as a wolf, so I'm thinking village. She's also just feeling village in tone and the way she engages the thread.
samac - I was a bit unsure yesterday, but her opening posts today are either a brilliant wolf ploy or genuine villager spilling their night results, and I'm inclined to think it's the latter, and this is village Samac.
Animal Midwife - Noticeably more quiet this game but I haven’t seen any red flags yet that have me concerned. Overall feels like Village!Wife.

Neutral:
Aprilthearab - She has said a lot of stuff that pings me, but it's pretty common for village April to ping me in the early game, more so than wolf April, so neutral but with a village lean for now.
Crayola227 - I can never read Cray this early. Especially on a D0 cycle where she’s not pushing to get anyone yeeted. Firm neutral for now.
genny - I don't know. I've never been able to read genny well. Cray made a good point that her comment about samac revealing felt like fishing. I can see the genny's side of the argument too, but I want to keep this in mind.
WildZoo - So far nothing is setting off alarm bells. Not really seeing anything to make me lean one way or the other. Neutral for now.
Lupin21 - From a general feels standpoint, she seems fine and nothing strikes me as wolfy, but I don’t know Lupin’s play well enough to say anything definitive, and the word on the street is she's dangerous, so I'm leaving her in neutrals.
dyachei - Same issue as with Lupin. Nothing stands out as particularly wolfy, and feels fine overall but I don't know dy well enough to trust more definitive read based on feels alone.
SportPonies - It felt kind of like she was trying to shade for asking a pretty basic question about chaos’s thinking, and it was kind of weird. Sporty always tends to find me sketchy though, and I might be looking at it in a biased way, so I’m trying not to read too much into it. Neutral for now.

Wolfy:
TelemarketingEnigma - There's something about TME's posts that make me go "This feels super village and helpful". And it's the exact same feeling I had about her posts in RvB where she turned out to be a wolf. There's something about them that just seem very reminiscent of that, and it's sketching me out.
The_Breadmann - April brought up a good point about the participation seeming “look at me I’m here and participating.” It’s hard to know if it’s Wolf!Bread looking busy or regular bread not being as legitimately engaged as we’d like.
cubsrule4e - There's nothing about Cub's play so far that's given me good feels about him being village. Dina's read is definitely influencing my own here, since last time Dina had bad feelings about Cubs being a wolf, I was spectacularly wrong for doubting her.

Not quite sure where I'll vote yet. I want to see a little more of the day play out and how I feel about the pushes people make.
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I do not like this sequence of events, and Zenge's play since then has not made me feel better. he popped in to give long detailed reads when it seemed like people were getting suspicious of him, and then has been posting multiple times since then, but none of them in ways that felt like he was contributing as much as I'm used to. Like he's trying to be present without doing anything

Dinashadow said:
@TelemarketingEnigma caould you share some reads?
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yes will get there shortly but I think a separate post will be better for that so they don't get lost in all these quotes

Dinashadow said:
Agree with this but also still on the fence about TME. I'm trying to remember what pinged me about her after I was dead in RvB. It was something about her reads I think.



Don't stake a cubs read on me yet. He's done some things to make me feel uneasy, but not ready to put a vote there yet. Would want to flip bread first I think. If bread is a wolf less likely cubs is based on what cubs said last night about bread.
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samac said:
TE knows her biggest mistake in RvB so I wouldn’t rely entirely on that.
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yes, i am well aware of how our weak reads got us found out in RvB (at least I think so, maybe we had another secret flaw I'm not aware of)

Aprilthearab said:
I'm wondering if there was a noted difference between TME's RvB play (which I played in) and Olympics play (which I didn't play in) and if her play here matches one better than the other. Because it sounds like she was moderately sketchy in Olympics with her D2 yeet as opposed to how village-sounding she was in the beginning of RvB. It took a while for people to catch on in RvB and she lived quite a bit longer
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In olympics everyone decided I was sketchy right off the bat for joking about time zones in my intro posts and it all went downhill from there. Also it went straight into a yeet vote on a day I was super busy with no mayor vote/NK/other real flavor to give us much to talk about - wolf or villager, I hate D1 and like discussing mod writeups and mechanics a lot (this is not news to anyone who has played with me). Is it always helpful? probably not, but it's fun for me. Didn't really get a chance to do that in olympics until I was already on the defensive

samac said:
I just know bread tends to be sketchy all the time but being absent for a full day isn’t like him.
unsure of what the motivation would be though.
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I'm pretty sure I recall a similar AWOL bread situation in a previous game but cannot remember which one and maybe i'm misremembering
 
Reads post (possibly to be updated in the morning when I'm more awake)


village lean
AM - feels more reserved than the wolf AM outing in Goats. I don't think i saw her most recent wolf outing though so not sure if that was similar.
April - nothing overtly wolfy from her so far. feels like she's genuinely wolfhunting

neutral, slight village lean
Dinashadow - feels like she's trying to direct the game a lot more than I'm used to. I think it's due to level of interest in the theme + winning the election, so I want to give it village cred but I have to hold back slightly just in case.
samac - I felt like her initial posts this morning were village!samac, but her posts since then have been more neutral. it would not be impossible for her to imitate her village tone as a wolf but I haven't felt any overtly wolfy vibes yet. Resolved tension with cray felt genuine but NAI.

true neutral
genny - honestly has not left an impression on me this game at all, so I need to go back and look at her. I have no idea what the "Genny Way" is people keep mentioning
WZ - mostly not much impression, a little less chaotic vibes than I think I often get from her? will revisit
Lupin - no idea on meta. the losing push for election felt a little odd, and the chaotic tie vote was weird, but feels a little too open for early wolfing.

neutral, lean uncomfy
SportPonies - this is a very mild uncomfy lean and mostly just feels. should review further.
cubs - i didn't love him jumping to follow zenge after he threw my name in the ring. maybe just hurt my feels lol. I probably deserve it though after RvB. i do think a rapid wolf sequence of such posts would be unlikely, so I would feel worse about cubs if zenge found his way back to my village reads. otherwise low impression.
cray - just feels really different from previous cray. might be the timing, might be what she mentioned about trying to be more positive/village-bloc-building early game. resolved tension with samac felt genuine but NAI. we're agreeing far too much and that scares me.
Bread - entirely too AWOL. I've usually felt that yeeting an AWOL player tends to result in yeeting villagers more often than not, but Chaos did miss an entire D1 as a wolf so now idk... at the very least, I'd like him to make an appearance.


wolfy feels
dy - it may just be a playstyle thing to some extent, similar to why I clash with AM often. But they were
quick to get defensive after people went after one post. Mildly reminiscent of how pippy sometimes overreacts when she feels threatened early as scum
Zenge142 - I do not like the inactivity. jumping in with a long reads post then going back to the background feels icky. I think the "wolves wouldn't run for mayor for the first time!" argument is weak (similar to the "I would NEVER bus" argument from anyone but AM). I also felt mildly icky about him happily sharing openly that there's a class rep ability after Dina declined to say anything - I think we all assumed there was, but it felt a little bit like fishing for Dina's new ability.
 
okay anyway it's way past my bedtime now, I have some poorly formed thoughts floating around in my head but we'll see if they still make any sense to me in the morning
 
Crayola227 said:
@Lupin21 is your rule about first 5 posters, would it be amongst these ones?

Ironic since if 20% of roster is wolves, statistically alone one of the first 5 posters is likely to be wolf anyway, unless that's skewed that wolves or villagers are more or less likely to early post.
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Yes, hence my WZ vote noting that. 🙂
 
Day 2: Rage, You Damn Nerds Vote Tally

Bread (4) - AM, April, Sporty, Dina
Cray (2) - DubZ, samac
DubZ (1) - Lupin
TME (1) - dyachei

8/14

Leading: n/a
Missing: @The_Breadmann @cubsrule4e @Crayola227 @Zenge142 @TelemarketingEnigma @genny

Vote ends at 10pm EDT, TODAY, Sunday, Sept. 12 (~14.5 hours)
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Time is doing what we call omgus

No hint of me being a wolf read for them until I wolf read them. Interesting

Being defensive about being browbeaten for my reads early doesn't make me a wolf. It just makes several people here paranoid about reads to the point it annoyed me

I've done more to try and solve this game than half the people in the thread but I get that doesn't matter on sdn
 
samac said:
My flavor text. I was grabbed, fought valiantly and then my quirk was gone.
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Just dawned on me, are we talking gone as in suppressed or gone like yesterday is gone. If more a feeling of suppressed then it could be Aizawa sensei
 
The_Breadmann said:
Just dawned on me, are we talking gone as in suppressed or gone like yesterday is gone. If more a feeling of suppressed then it could be Aizawa sensei
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didnt we go over this already? I thought that samac made it seem permanent which would be wolfy, not aizawa
 
Lupin21 said:
Also curious now that it seems people are putting zenge in suspect mode when a good number of you voted him for class rep...
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I voted for him because I feel comfortable reading him. And something just feels off. I wouldn’t throw down he’s 100% wolfy yet, but his lack of posts, me calling him out on that and him saying “oh I’ll post a reads list”, he waited until a few other people posted a reads list and mostly echoed those. Felt weird.
 
The_Breadmann said:
Just dawned on me, are we talking gone as in suppressed or gone like yesterday is gone. If more a feeling of suppressed then it could be Aizawa sensei
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dyachei said:
didnt we go over this already? I thought that samac made it seem permanent which would be wolfy, not aizawa
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It says permanent in the result. I also doubt Aizawa would attack someone in an alley lol
 
TelemarketingEnigma said:
I do not like this sequence of events, and Zenge's play since then has not made me feel better. he popped in to give long detailed reads when it seemed like people were getting suspicious of him, and then has been posting multiple times since then, but none of them in ways that felt like he was contributing as much as I'm used to. Like he's trying to be present without doing anything
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This...reads a bit hypocritical to me, yeah? Look at the timing of your reads list.

I think overall people getting on Zenge's case about reads list timing is a little odd considering I don't think I've ever seen him post one on D1 or be the first to post one, and would expect it even less on a mayor vote day. Reminding me of CYO I think when shorty got on my case for not having reads yet early on and then when I did catch up and post people tried to say it was because of the pressure.
 
WildZoo said:
I'm feeling better about both April and Zenge after reading their reads, April a little moreso because I'm more confident in my ability to detect when she's faking it.
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talk to me about your read on TME. looking for more input there because a lot of people seem suspicious but no one else seems to be willing to vote there
 
dyachei said:
Time is doing what we call omgus

No hint of me being a wolf read for them until I wolf read them. Interesting

Being defensive about being browbeaten for my reads early doesn't make me a wolf. It just makes several people here paranoid about reads to the point it annoyed me

I've done more to try and solve this game than half the people in the thread but I get that doesn't matter on sdn
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I hadn’t really offered solid reads on anyone before this but I wouldn’t say my interactions with you before this expressed any sort of glowing village opinion?
I was suspicious before but giving a chance since I don’t know you, but obviously I’m gonna be increasingly suspicious of people trying to misyeet me because I know they are wrong
WildZoo said:
Hey now
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feeling defensive are we? *WZ is bussing cray, noted*
 
TelemarketingEnigma said:
I hadn’t really offered solid reads on anyone before this but I wouldn’t say my interactions with you before this expressed any sort of glowing village opinion?
I was suspicious before but giving a chance since I don’t know you, but obviously I’m gonna be increasingly suspicious of people trying to misyeet me because I know they are wrong

feeling defensive are we? *WZ is bussing cray, noted*
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you're not actually giving me a chance though. you're reading me off things that are NAI

I just find it interesting you expressed a wolf read on like 2 people and one of them is someone literally voting for you right now. it's awfully convenient
 
WildZoo said:
This...reads a bit hypocritical to me, yeah? Look at the timing of your reads list.

I think overall people getting on Zenge's case about reads list timing is a little odd considering I don't think I've ever seen him post one on D1 or be the first to post one, and would expect it even less on a mayor vote day. Reminding me of CYO I think when shorty got on my case for not having reads yet early on and then when I did catch up and post people tried to say it was because of the pressure.
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My concern is not so much that he posted a reads list, because yeah I just did that too, but that he did so and then didn’t contribute much else even though he seemed at least a little bit present on thread
 
TelemarketingEnigma said:
My concern is not so much that he posted a reads list, because yeah I just did that too, but that he did so and then didn’t contribute much else even though he seemed at least a little bit present on thread
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To follow up, I feel like by this point in the game I’m used to village!Zenge having bolder opinions (often so bold I start wolf reading him) so the fact that of his four posts after the reads list, spread throughout the evening, 3 of them were just questions feels odd

edit: the numbers here are not quite right cause I can’t count on mobile but I stand by the vibe
 
dyachei said:
talk to me about your read on TME. looking for more input there because a lot of people seem suspicious but no one else seems to be willing to vote there
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I had her in a :shrug: category originally but she got a tick in wolf column for both of her wolf reads being on people who are sus of her. Don't care much for the reasoning either.

I'm still working out my feelings on cray with her more recent posts. Not sure if they've changed things for me yet.
 
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