Infiltrated WW Game Thread

[Ashgirl]

---

Members don't see this ad.

We know for sure the other blocks are for sure coming from gangs and not an individual like a wolf blocker? My hesitations on the MJ lynch have been that no one else has claimed responsibility for the other blocks... And (someone said this yesterday) it could be that they are a wolf who is afraid MJ will die villager and we'll have their head instead. But if the other blocks are gang actions then I am definitely up for the MJ lynch.

Unless I didn't see it, I don't think we've figured out if the blocking was a gang ability or another individual blocker, nor am I sure which one is more likely, though I do think that if there is another individual blocker, they are likely keeping silent because they would be next on the chopping block if MJ comes out villager (and rightly so).

Lynch Aloha for now.

 

[KCgophervet]

We know for sure the other blocks are for sure coming from gangs and not an individual like a wolf blocker? My hesitations on the MJ lynch have been that no one else has claimed responsibility for the other blocks... And (someone said this yesterday) it could be that they are a wolf who is afraid MJ will die villager and we'll have their head instead. But if the other blocks are gang actions then I am definitely up for the MJ lynch.

It was actually me who said it yesterday, and I still think it might be valid. Today I was informed that there is a gang with a group blocking ability though so if that's the case, and it's not the "all night actions cancelled" ability, then I feel like it would be overkill to give both a villager gang and a villager loner the same blocking ability. If that's incorrect information however I will happily change my vote.

 

[Fireman]

Is it out of the realm of possibility that Kam had the ability to shut the night down and used it to protect herself?

 

[Mad Jack]

Is it out of the realm of possibility that Kam had the ability to shut the night down and used it to protect herself?

I'm highly doubting a hobo can shut the city down.

 

[Trilt]

Incredibles game had like six various blockers - they drove me insane... - it wouldn't surprise me to have multiple here. MJ could still totally be sketch, but I wouldn't necessarily use that as justification.

Kam doing it herself isn't supported by write-up?

 

[Fireman]

I'm highly doubting a hobo can shut the city down.

But would play into the thought line that she is more than just a hobo, as myself, docE, and a few others thought after the write up seemed to allude to Hayley knowing her.

 

[Mad Jack]

Incredibles game had like six various blockers - they drove me insane... - it wouldn't surprise me to have multiple here. MJ could still totally be sketch, but I wouldn't necessarily use that as justification.

Kam doing it herself isn't supported by write-up?

By the writeup, it sounds like the leader of the gang that keeps losing people did this. Definitely not Kam's doing, unless she isn't who she says she is.

 

[DocEspana]

But would play into the thought line that she is more than just a hobo, as myself, docE, and a few others thought after the write up seemed to allude to Hayley knowing her.

This.

Even when I'm phoning it in (got called into work) I'm still feeling this lynch.

Lynch Kam

We need the data points. I can't interpret the night if no actions without info on what flavor blood Kam has.

 

[Frozenshades]

lynch kam

 

[Fireman]

By the writeup, it sounds like the leader of the gang that keeps losing people did this. Definitely not Kam's doing, unless she isn't who she says she is.

Which is what a few people(myself included) talked about yesterday.

 

[Teepster87]

Sick kids are going to be the death of me. I'm sorry I haven't been around today.

That being said, I believe that Kam's being truthful about her role. But a night with nothing going on has not allowed me to learn any new information. I will stick with my pick yesterday and
Lynch aloha

 

[JaynaAli]

I'm sticking with my vote from yesterday.

Lynch Kam

 

[Kam325]

But would play into the thought line that she is more than just a hobo, as myself, docE, and a few others thought after the write up seemed to allude to Hayley knowing her.

The only part of death I was somewhat looking forward to was that it would put this asinine nonsense to rest.

 

[Trilt]

By the writeup, it sounds like the leader of the gang that keeps losing people did this. Definitely not Kam's doing, unless she isn't who she says she is.

Tone didn't come across correctly. I was trying to point that out, not question it.

...I don't see how someone can take a subtle bit from the write up yesterday that implies she's more than just a homeless person, while also stating she's not in a gang, and then somehow believe that this write-up today is implying in any way that she's a gang leader who cancelled the lynch to save her ass.

Same as MJ, she could still totally be sketch, but this logic is ehhh at best I think.

 

[Fireman]

The only part of death I was somewhat looking forward to was that it would put this asinine nonsense to rest.

Yes of course 9 posts dedicated to something plausible is just soooooooo annoying. How can you even? Literally?

 

[Kam325]

But would play into the thought line that she is more than just a hobo, as myself, docE, and a few others thought after the write up seemed to allude to Hayley knowing her.

Is it out of the realm of possibility that Kam had the ability to shut the night down and used it to protect herself?

Did our resident write-up detectives completely miss the fact that STL made it crystal clear that the leader of the gang is the one who cancelled night, and also clarified yesterday that the homeless man was unaffiliated?

Seriously, this just doesn't make any sense at all. Either I'm a cop in disguise, or I'm a gang-leader in disguise while somehow every other member of the gang I'm apparently heading has no idea I exist. Can't be both.

Editing to add a @DocEspana tag, because if he's not a wolf, he should feel just as bad about this super contradictory logic 😉

 

[Caiter92]

I'm keeping my vote from yesterday, too.

Lynch kam

Her 2 am ranting semi-defense post and being so defensive yesterday and today are just weird to me if she's a villager. And redacting all her posts with info about her role yesterday after posting. If you want to clear yourself, leave the info that could help.

Idk, I might waffle. But I just agree with SOV's interp of her 2am post.

 

[WildZoo]

The more than she appears bit about the hobo seems to be entirely explained by the ability Kam claimed and i don't see that the writeup today had much to do with her other than maybe the decision was made to save her after what she posted early this morning. Which, by the way, seems totally plausible to me since STL said that action came in very late.

Basically i don't really understand the continued Kam lynch today. I'm not feeling the MJ lynch either but we all know how reliable I am on that front.

 

[Kam325]

I know (think?) MJ and Aloha are the leading alternatives right now, but I honestly find the quiet stragglers who jump on board the completely nebulous logic of some of these bad, bad arguments against me so unrelentingly suspicious.

All of the players I generally think of as sensible and logical seem to follow my arguments and are on the same page. DVMD, Dy, WZ, Trilt, Rojo etc. So when a Jayna or a Caiter jumps in and is totally on board with misleading and misguided "theories" about my identity, it really pings. Why would they buy the bad logic that others reject?

I had slight feels from my role for Caiter, so I'm going to go with

Lynch Caiter

for now.

Not to say I wouldn't love to lynch DocE, but I don't think that will go anywhere.

 

[JaynaAli]

Today, I'm less concerned by the 'hobo more than they seem aspect' than I was yesterday, but I think there's enough confusion regarding her affiliation that it's worth trying again. Especially since we don't really have anything better other than 'meh minor feels'. If someone had something concrete to share, I'd happily waffle. I didn't like Kam's late night reveal and I also don't like the '$h*tty job' comment to those of us who voted for her either. Unfortunately, villagers are lynched in WW (especially ones who just claim to be useful during the day and don't reveal before 2am)...no need to be so aggressive about it.

 

[thedrjojo]

I feel bad for Kam, some of you are crazy people and if I was her I'd be ripping my hair out defending these claims. Oye

 

[Fireman]

I know (think?) MJ and Aloha are the leading alternatives right now, but I honestly find the quiet stragglers who jump on board the completely nebulous logic of some of these bad, bad arguments against me so unrelentingly suspicious.

All of the players I generally think of as sensible and logical seem to follow my arguments and are on the same page. DVMD, Dy, WZ, Trilt, Rojo etc. So when a Jayna or a Caiter jumps in and is totally on board with misleading and misguided "theories" about my identity, it really pings. Why would they buy the bad logic that others reject?

I had slight feels from my role for Caiter, so I'm going to go with

Lynch Caiter

for now.

Not to say I wouldn't love to lynch DocE, but I don't think that will go anywhere.

I'm just trying to look at as many possibilities as possible right now since basically no one has put forth anything worthwhile. Remember that I defended you yesterday and didn't vote for you. And have not voted for you yet. I'm just trying to get some sort of discussion going. Everything else seems to be swag's which I don't like, especially 4 days in. The aloha vote still makes no sense to me. The only "reason" I remember reading was that she was in 2nd place the day before.

 

[thedrjojo]

Today, I'm less concerned by the 'hobo more than they seem aspect' than I was yesterday, but I think there's enough confusion regarding her affiliation that it's worth trying again. Especially since we don't really have anything better other than 'meh minor feels'. If someone had something concrete to share, I'd happily waffle. I didn't like Kam's late night reveal and I also don't like the '$h*tty job' comment to those of us who voted for her either. Unfortunately, villagers are lynched in WW (especially ones who just claim to be useful during the day and don't reveal before 2am)...no need to be so aggressive about it.

But loosing the tracker hurts

And to all of you offended by kam's aggressive and insulting post need to grow a pair, cause I saw nothing wrong with her message and have been known, along with everyone here that's been playing as long as I have been, to get even more antagonistic in our defense posts, and some are more defensive as a villager than a wolf...

 

[Caiter92]

Today, I'm less concerned by the 'hobo more than they seem aspect' than I was yesterday, but I think there's enough confusion regarding her affiliation that it's worth trying again. Especially since we don't really have anything better other than 'meh minor feels'. If someone had something concrete to share, I'd happily waffle. I didn't like Kam's late night reveal and I also don't like the '$h*tty job' comment to those of us who voted for her either. Unfortunately, villagers are lynched in WW (especially ones who just claim to be useful during the day and don't reveal before 2am)...no need to be so aggressive about it.

Yep, my voting for kam again today is because I actually still have some sort feels for her and don't like how ridiculously aggressive she is being if you don't agree with her.

I'm keeping it for now, unless I actually get some feels for someone else. Because I'd rather vote for someone I actually have any sort of feels about (even if I'm not being logical according to kam... Insulting people, great way to get them on your side!) than just a random lynch, as I think aloha is?

I think MJ could be questionable, but I have stronger feels for kam than him, so I'm keeping it.

Call my logic flawed as much as you want, do not care.

 

[thedrjojo]

I'm just trying to look at as many possibilities as possible right now since basically no one has put forth anything worthwhile. Remember that I defended you yesterday and didn't vote for you. And have not voted for you yet. I'm just trying to get some sort of discussion going. Everything else seems to be swag's which I don't like, especially 4 days in. The aloha vote still makes no sense to me. The only "reason" I remember reading was that she was in 2nd place the day before.

Mad Jack vote still make sense imo... Claimed something in his role description no one else had, and is a blocker and I often gladly Lynch blockers

 

[Kam325]

Today, I'm less concerned by the 'hobo more than they seem aspect' than I was yesterday, but I think there's enough confusion regarding her affiliation that it's worth trying again. Especially since we don't really have anything better other than 'meh minor feels'. If someone had something concrete to share, I'd happily waffle. I didn't like Kam's late night reveal and I also don't like the '$h*tty job' comment to those of us who voted for her either. Unfortunately, villagers are lynched in WW (especially ones who just claim to be useful during the day and don't reveal before 2am)...no need to be so aggressive about it.

There's a difference between "investigating" and "killing the tracker without qualms".

I wasn't planning to reveal at all, since many players said they believed and didn't want to lynch me based on my arguments and the holes in the arguments against me alone. I don't know what is making people so upset about my "late night reveal".....I literally fell asleep, woke up to a bunch of complaining about how I hadn't given specifics, and figuring I was dead anyway, gave up and put it out there.

And I do think the lynch was a ****ty job. Not because it was wrong, but because the logic behind it was pointed out to be faulty by multiple players, because all of the assumptions it was based on were silly and incorrect, and because the 8 people out of 28 who got me killed didn't seem to consider or listen to any of the very reasonable arguments against it. There's a difference between an unfortunate mistake and flat out bad logic. It's frustrating.

 

[Kam325]

I'm just trying to look at as many possibilities as possible right now since basically no one has put forth anything worthwhile. Remember that I defended you yesterday and didn't vote for you. And have not voted for you yet. I'm just trying to get some sort of discussion going. Everything else seems to be swag's which I don't like, especially 4 days in. The aloha vote still makes no sense to me. The only "reason" I remember reading was that she was in 2nd place the day before.

I get you, and I'm not lynching Aloha either. But when you have two conflicting theories that are just 100% incompatible with each other (aka I'm an undercover cop AND I'm the one who cancelled night actions), you can see how that would drive me nuts.

 

[thedrjojo]

There's a difference between "investigating" and "killing the tracker without qualms".

I wasn't planning to reveal at all, since many players said they believed and didn't want to lynch me based on my arguments and the holes in the arguments against me alone. I don't know what is making people so upset about my "late night reveal".....I literally fell asleep, woke up to a bunch of complaining about how I hadn't given specifics, and figuring I was dead anyway, gave up and put it out there.

And I do think the lynch was a ****ty job. Not because it was wrong, but because the logic behind it was pointed out to be faulty by multiple players, because all of the assumptions it was based on were silly and incorrect, and because the 8 people out of 28 who got me killed didn't seem to consider or listen to any of the very reasonable arguments against it. There's a difference between an unfortunate mistake and flat out bad logic. It's frustrating.

You forgot to tell her to grow a pair... I'd have said to grow a pair... 😉

I'm gonna be thrilled when you turn out to be a wolf btw... You will become my new favorite ww player.

 

[Fireman]

Mad Jack vote still make sense imo... Claimed something in his role description no one else had, and is a blocker and I often gladly Lynch blockers

I agree, hence my vote yesterday. And it's actually the way I'm leading today. Though, I don't trust you or docE, but that's just because I know you. 😉

 

[thedrjojo]

I agree, hence my vote yesterday. And it's actually the way I'm leading today. Though, I don't trust you or docE, but that's just because I know you. 😉

As long as you don't Lynch me, I'm fine without you trusting me.

 

[dyachei]

I really have feels for rocky. And despite being 2nd or 3rd in votes, they said nothing. only ratchets up suspicions.

 

[finnickthedog]

I am not following the kam logic so I don't feel great about lynching her again tonight. Maybe later.


I have no idea what the current tally is but selecting from the other people who sound like they may be front runners I'm going to go with

Unlynch trilt

Lynch aloha


For right now anyways. Still thinking.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Finally a nice flying day on the weekend.
I am "le tired" as @GellaBella would say.

Kam continues to annoy me, and I just wanna lynch her for that TBH.
BUt that's not a good enough reason for now.

And there is no way Kam is the leader of the gang we are talking about. End of story there.
I want to hear more from my group tonight before moving forward on Kam. There is still enough smoke there for there to be fire.

Lynch rocky.

Listening to Dyachei's feels for no good reason.

 

[WildZoo]

Does anyone have a tally? I'd like to get a useful vote in while i have the chance and i think mine is currently sitting on an outlier.

 

[Filly Bay]

Unofficial Lynch Tally
WZ (1): Lupin
Swiniazycie (1): STL
Kata (1): BI
LoTF (1): Hazelmoo
LIS (1): SoV
Rocky (3): Dyachei, STB, SOV
Deva (3): Wildzoo, kata, trilt
Teepster (2): Aloha, Jilary
SoV (1): Rockatiel
Trilt (1): Finnickthedog
Kam (5): Hayley, DocE, FZ, Jayna, Caiter
MJ (3): Kcough, Rojo, Deva
Aloha (5): Dvmd, Zensing, Ash, Teepster, Finn
Caiter (1): Kam

29/32 Voting

 

[Kam325]

I'll

Unlynch Caiter, lynch Aloha

to break the tie, though it's not what I prefer.

 

[heyyimhayley]

I've been at work all day and only really skimmed this. I missed Kam's tracker claim earlier, but if that's the case, it's either a really bold wolf claim (unlikely) or someone it would suck to lose.

Unlynch Kam

Could go for any of the other 3.. No strong preference either way. I'll come back with a decision later.

 

[JaynaAli]

Fine, I'll go with the group. For today at least.
Unlynch Kam.

Lynch LoTF. She isn't playing like she normally does and said she was off work today but still hasn't been around.

 

[Filly Bay]

I'm really not following the logic on lynching Kam again. It seems too stretched to make it work. If anything I'd rather someone look into her than just lynch our tracker. Aloha isn't making sense to me either - she also revealed her ability yesterday. I'm sticking with my vote for Rocky. I got feels from her response to my lynch vote yesterday and apparently Dy has feels too.

 

[Kam325]

If people are unlynching me, I'll

Unlynch Aloha.

 

[Fireman]

I wish there was some decent info to base a vote on. Aside from Kam's vote of Aloha, nobody has said why? Any of you voting that way care to fill me in?

 

[Trilt]

Unlynch deva, lynch Rocky

I go out for the evening and you guys finally start talking...

 

[Kam325]

I'll admit I don't share the Rocky feels, but realize I'm likely biased by the fact that she keeps liking my arguments and those of others who make sensible posts defending me.

 

[heyyimhayley]

I'm really not following the logic on lynching Kam again. It seems too stretched to make it work. If anything I'd rather someone look into her than just lynch our tracker. Aloha isn't making sense to me either - she also revealed her ability yesterday. I'm sticking with my vote for Rocky. I got feels from her response to my lynch vote yesterday and apparently Dy has feels too.

Aloha claims she can find out the amount of wolves in a gang. A wolf would know the answer to that, so it could be a made-up ability that's easy to "prove."
But catch-22 is if it's not made-up, it'd be helpful...

 

[Fireman]

Two people(dya and STB) have said they feels for Rocky, that's more than anyone has given on anyone else so I'll lean that way for now...wish I knew a bit more about the feels though.

###lynch rocky###

 

[dyachei]

Two people(dya and STB) have said they feels for Rocky, that's more than anyone has given on anyone else so I'll lean that way for now...wish I knew a bit more about the feels though.

###lynch rocky###

it's pretty non-specific. Just a couple of weird responses (IMO) make me want to vote that way. And I find it weird that being a few votes from winning, I didn't see a defense.

 

[Filly Bay]

Aloha claims she can find out the amount of wolves in a gang. A wolf would know the answer to that, so it could be a made-up ability that's easy to "prove."
But catch-22 is if it's not made-up, it'd be helpful...

This is true. It could very well be made up. Hopefully she is being truthful, but I'm also not seeing any other reason to lynch her?

 

[heyyimhayley]

This is true. It could very well be made up. Hopefully she is being truthful, but I'm also not seeing any other reason to lynch her?

I guess the reasoning was that she didn't defend herself well up until she said that, plus feels

 

[Mad Jack]

Lynch rocky

I don't know how to feel about kam, but I know something doesn't feel right still, I don't think it's worth risking our tracker.

 

[Kam325]

No one interested in Caiter?

I still like it, so until we get closer to deadline,

Lynch Caiter.

The feels I've had in previous games that have most often turned out to be right have been for people who make or agree with arguments that feel overly illogical and thus more likely designed than arrived at organically.

I have the benefit of knowing for certain that I am telling the truth, so my feels lie mostly with SOV (less so because I can see non-wolf reasons for his agenda against me), DocE, and the "oh yeah that definitely sounds right" players.