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[Trilt]

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ok, but active ability if village makes more sense to use nightly. do you see why?

Yes, I do, and I understand your suspicions. But extraneous circumstances made it moot the first night. As I said, it makes sense with the ability.

 

[dyachei]

Yes, I do, and I understand your suspicions. But extraneous circumstances made it moot the first night. As I said, it makes sense with the ability.

ok, but I'm literally having to go off your word. And I still have concerns from day 1. You can see why that would be difficult?

 

[dyachei]

would be good if one of the 2 might speak up?

 

[Kam325]

Trilt just told me her role. If she's telling the truth it makes complete sense that she would not be able to use it N1.

 

[dyachei]

Trilt just told me her role. If she's telling the truth it makes complete sense that she would not be able to use it N1.

I'd rather see confirmation from the 2 people she spoke of earlier

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

No dust here... Guess that means it wasn't you glaring at me

What? I was asking if anybody had gotten a message from the mods that related to something about their eyes last night.

I awoke to a note about "pressure on my eyes overnight." I saw the morning write up said something about all of us rubbing dust from our eyes after yesterday's lynch was cancelled by some sort of magic dust (fairy or sandman?) and assumed it was related. But since nobody else commented, I asked.

I have since been told it is related to an item.

Thanks. I did so. Yeah, it's funny, all of STL's posts have that Irish theme. I'm guessing they're a Leprechaun. I don't know what that means in the game. They usually have powers but it's usually mischevious.

I was wondering which Irish legend. Leprechaun or Selkie or ?

I just took it to mean she had dust in her eyes which to me seems like it would make it hard to do any "menacing glaring". I may have interpreted it wrong.

If it's dust in the eyes it seems like someone could be trying to prevent someone else from seering/investigating.

I didn't have dust in my eyes. And I'm not a seer.
This does seem like a huge leap from my first post. Was someone staring at you? Do you have something to hide?

 

[Trilt]

I'd rather see confirmation from the 2 people she spoke of earlier

You have significantly more information on me than over half of the players in the field. You're asking for a level of verification that we haven't required for any other candidate so far.

My role and ability make sense together per @allyphoe yesterday. The non-use N1 makes sense per @Kam325. I either have an absurdly good cover, or you need to admit that you're tunneling.

 

[dyachei]

You have significantly more information on me than over half of the players in the field. You're asking for a level of verification that we haven't required for any other candidate so far.

My role and ability make sense together per @allyphoe yesterday. The non-use N1 makes sense per @Kam325. I either have an absurdly good cover, or you need to admit that you're tunneling.

You're escalating things unnecessarily. it's not even close to "good" cover

I would like to hear from allyphoe on the subject. No offense, but your friend saying your role sounds village doesn't mean all that much to me.

I have explained that your tone and your clinging to really flimsy evidence was wolf-ish. I stand by that. Me asking questions means I'm reconsidering.

 

[nyanko]

lynch Jilary

 

[allyphoe]

The non-use N1 makes sense per @Kam325.

Trilt's claimed role description would not be one that could have been used N1.

 

[Kam325]

You're escalating things unnecessarily. it's not even close to "good" cover

I would like to hear from allyphoe on the subject. No offense, but your friend saying your role sounds village doesn't mean all that much to me.

I have explained that your tone and your clinging to really flimsy evidence was wolf-ish. I stand by that. Me asking questions means I'm reconsidering.

🙄

I didn't say her role sounds village. And I don't play or vouch as "her friend", more than once I've been the one to catch her as a wolf since she's always the one I have under the most scrutiny. To insinuate my word on whether her not using the claimed ability N1 makes sense is less trustworthy than anyone else's is kind of ridiculous.

 

[allyphoe]

Lynch raf based on voting patterns.

 

[dyachei]

Trilt's claimed role description would not be one that could have been used N1.

thank you, ally.

@Kam325

She was escalating the situation. If LIS or DVMD vouched for me, I'd suggest you take it with a grain of salt, too. When you're friends with someone outside of the game, biases occur. Please don't also escalate anything. Your attitude towards me questioning her in order to be able to clear her is really, truly petty.

unlynch trilt

lynch jil

 

[Trilt]

thank you, ally.

@Kam325

She was escalating the situation. If LIS or DVMD vouched for me, I'd suggest you take it with a grain of salt, too. When you're friends with someone outside of the game, biases occur. Please don't also escalate anything. Your attitude towards me questioning her in order to be able to clear her is really, truly petty.

unlynch trilt

lynch jil

It's not petty. You didn't portray her words accurately, and it comes across as rude when one feels they're not being listened to. She never said "my role sounded village," she simply said that, if my claim was true, it made sense to not be used N1.

 

[dyachei]

It's not petty. You didn't portray her words accurately, and it comes across as rude when one feels they're not being listened to. She never said "my role sounded village," she simply said that, if my claim was true, it made sense to not be used N1.

this is a case of semantics. What assumption do you personally make when someone says that? The implication is that you're telling the truth and therefore more village.

Regardless, I'm responding calmly and civilly. Are both of you?

 

[Kam325]

thank you, ally.

@Kam325

She was escalating the situation. If LIS or DVMD vouched for me, I'd suggest you take it with a grain of salt, too. When you're friends with someone outside of the game, biases occur. Please don't also escalate anything. Your attitude towards me questioning her in order to be able to clear her is really, truly petty.

unlynch trilt

lynch jil

I have no problem with you questioning her, and I never said she was village. But you saying it means nothing to you that I verified her claimed ability would not be used N1, on the basis that I am her friend....is not a fair assessment of how I play this game. My response is not petty.

 

[morninqlory]

I didn't have dust in my eyes. And I'm not a seer.
This does seem like a huge leap from my first post. Was someone staring at you? Do you have something to hide?

You said something about dust and eyes... I thought this meant you had dust in your eyes last night. If someone had put dust in your eyes somehow I thought it could be a mechanism to attempt to block a person from seering if it turned out they had that ability, not that you ARE the seer.

There were eyes menacingly glaring at me last night and you'd talked about eyes so I thought I'd comment. Nothing to hide.

 

[dyachei]

I have no problem with you questioning her, and I never said she was village. But you saying it means nothing to you that I verified her claimed ability would not be used N1, on the basis that I am her friend....is not a fair assessment of how I play this game. My response is not petty.

the eye-roll was entirely petty. Please explain to me how it wasn't

You verifying her role wouldn't be used N1 means less than if a random player said it because of intrinsic biases. THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK. I would say this for most players.

 

[Kam325]

If this disagreement somehow reads as 'uncivil' to you, I don't know what to say. You mischaracterized what I said and stated there was less reason to trust my judgement because I like Trilt. I defended that and clarified what I actually said. This is all part of the game and I see no personal or unjustified remarks in my response.

 

[Trilt]

this is a case of semantics. What assumption do you personally make when someone says that? The implication is that you're telling the truth and therefore more village.

Regardless, I'm responding calmly and civilly. Are both of you?

It is not a case of semantics. Verifying "if x is true, y makes sense" is a notably different statement in this game than, "z sounds villager-y."

She even prefaced the statement with "if she's telling the truth"...

 

[Skimble]

I give up. I haven't been around all day and most likely won't be around for the rest of the night. I'm done trying to defend. I'm the sandman and villager blocker. I blocked FFM n1 and was told "it worked, I guess?" Blocked Kam n2, it worked. Tried to block trilt last night but was redirected to STL.

Lynch Kam

Villagers usually say they have been blocked. That's all I've got.

 

[dyachei]

If this disagreement somehow reads as 'uncivil' to you, I don't know what to say. You mischaracterized what I said and stated there was less reason to trust my judgement because I like Trilt. I defended that and clarified what I actually said. This is all part of the game and I see no personal or unjustified remarks in my response.

I said the eye-roll was. And trilt's response earlier also was.

Please explain why that would make me feel good about interacting here?

I'm still saying that you saying what you said is support for her being more likely to be village. is this not true? if not, why mention it? The whole point was to corroborate her claim and help solidify her as either or. Is this untrue?

 

[Kam325]

I said the eye-roll was. And trilt's response earlier also was.

Please explain why that would make me feel good about interacting here?

I'm still saying that you saying what you said is support for her being more likely to be village. is this not true? if not, why mention it? The whole point was to corroborate her claim and help solidify her as either or. Is this untrue?

Of course the point is to add to the public discussion information that helps people make an informed decision about how valid her claim may be. Would you really expect me to withhold that? You stated that your reason for lynching her was that she didn't use her ability on N1 and you think a villager would use an active ability every night. You don't think it's pertinent that her claimed role is one she couldn't have used on N1?

The eye roll was in response to your complete mischaracterization of what I said, and throwing in that I should be trusted less because Trilt and I are friends. It's silly. I'm not going to argue about it any more.

 

[dyachei]

I'll fully admit I might be overreacting based on what was said d1. But I've also been accused of tunneling based on what I think are solid concerns.

 

[Kam325]

I give up. I haven't been around all day and most likely won't be around for the rest of the night. I'm done trying to defend. I'm the sandman and villager blocker. I blocked FFM n1 and was told "it worked, I guess?" Blocked Kam n2, it worked. Tried to block trilt last night but was redirected to STL.

Lynch Kam

Villagers usually say they have been blocked. That's all I've got.

STL has addressed redirection taking precedence over blocking earlier in the game (I think, will go back and quote). I think that's likely what happened N2, our redirector could confirm but I doubt they'd want to do so publicly.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

I give up. I haven't been around all day and most likely won't be around for the rest of the night. I'm done trying to defend. I'm the sandman and villager blocker. I blocked FFM n1 and was told "it worked, I guess?" Blocked Kam n2, it worked. Tried to block trilt last night but was redirected to STL.

Lynch Kam

Villagers usually say they have been blocked. That's all I've got.

I do not really agree with any of the main contenders today, since Trilt's posts have gotten me marking her off to the more villager side.

This reasoning is at least something. Lynch Kam
(I know whether saying you were blocked is a whole can of worms, but I am content to go with it for today and see where it leads)

 

[Kam325]

Stall the ball, last night will be of interest to many of ye. The order of operations are quare. Ye see, last night, a laddie decided to redirect me to someone else, while a chancer decided to block me. I may be bate, but I am quite sure that although the block was successful, me actions were not blocked. This makes the order of operations banjaxed and blocking essentially gammy. It's gob****e.

However, the wan that redirected me should be thanked. I happened upon a feek (in game character may be a lad) who was holding a hockey stick. Me familiarity with the American cinema may not be mighty, but it makes me think of a Jason movie. Anyone know of any other mythical/magical character that would be beholden to a hockey stick?

Here, Jil. I was redirected N2, but I didn't get any sort of notification about a block.

 

[Kam325]

Also blocker + lynch avoidance is two 'could-go-either-way' abilities colliding. And the leap that not mentioning a block on thread you have no way of knowing if your blockees are even notified about is wolfy is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

 

[DVMDream]

I do not really agree with any of the main contenders today, since Trilt's posts have gotten me marking her off to the more villager side.

This reasoning is at least something. Lynch Kam
(I know whether saying you were blocked is a whole can of worms, but I am content to go with it for today and see where it leads)

Meh I was blocked night 2 by some club thing but didn't mention it.

Note, this isn't a defense of Kam, I'm just pointing out that not everyone is going to state everything. I have no info on Kam and can't make any judgement to her being a villager or not at this point

 

[raf2769]

lynch kam
I wasn't feeling the jil lynch yesterday, and I really think at this point, if she were a wolf, she would do more of a wolf brag than an "I give up" post with ability reveals. I'm not going to lynch her today just because she's the other leading candidate and I think Trilt is being truthful, lynching someone I really think to be a villager is not a great idea.. sooo I'm just going with the other and most new lead. I understand that not everyone is going to post something on the thread about being blocked, but I just don't know where else to go right now. I think both of the leading candidates, jil and trilt, are both most likely villager.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

Meh I was blocked night 2 by some club thing but didn't mention it.

Note, this isn't a defense of Kam, I'm just pointing out that not everyone is going to state everything. I have no info on Kam and can't make any judgement to her being a villager or not at this point

Oh I know, I have been blocked and not mentioned it before as well. However, I would like to hear her reasons why.

I stated I was not comfortable lynching one of the frontrunners because I think they are all weak/bad lynches. I'm looking for something else to go off of and haven't seen much so far. Wolves are playing too well 😉

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

lynch kam
I wasn't feeling the jil lynch yesterday, and I really think at this point, if she were a wolf, she would do more of a wolf brag than an "I give up" post with ability reveals. I'm not going to lynch her today just because she's the other leading candidate and I think Trilt is being truthful, lynching someone I really think to be a villager is not a great idea.. sooo I'm just going with the other and most new lead. I understand that not everyone is going to post something on the thread about being blocked, but I just don't know where else to go right now. I think both of the leading candidates, jil and trilt, are both most likely villager.

Gwen is also on the board today as well

 

[Kam325]

Oh I know, I have been blocked and not mentioned it before as well. However, I would like to hear her reasons why.

I stated I was not comfortable lynching one of the frontrunners because I think they are all weak/bad lynches. I'm looking for something else to go off of and haven't seen much so far. Wolves are playing too well 😉

I told you my reasons. I was never told that I was blocked.

 

[Kam325]

This seems like an extremely weird reason for a lynch and I'm honestly super surprised people are jumping on it when there are candidates on the board we have logical reasons to be worried about.

 

[Kam325]

lI really think at this point, if she were a wolf, she would do more of a wolf brag than an "I give up" post with ability reveals.

You think if she was a wolf, she would give up and reveal that info, guaranteeing her lynch, instead of trying to come up with a whackadoo reason to get another name on the board? 😵

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

I told you my reasons. I was never told that I was blocked.

I hadn't seen all of that yet, I am going back and reading now

 

[Trilt]

Can we discuss Gwen? She did no solid defense yesterday despite being second in the lead, and I really, truly feel like this was a kind of sketchy post this morning:

And since there have been a good handful of people wanting a reply from me on my head being on the block yesterday, I was told that I could kill my night attackers. I also received info last night that there is a neutral party this game.

 

[raf2769]

Gwen is also on the board today as well

Yeah I saw that too, she has defended a little bit, at least we may have learned a bit about her role/ability, and that seems to have not peaked too many other people's interests. I have to assume that players who have played this game before have better feels for people than I do, if everyone would have been really concerned with her defend, they would have jumped on it. At least Kam is someone else that we haven't already learned too much about to spark a new discussion.

 

[genny]

Also blocker + lynch avoidance is two 'could-go-either-way' abilities colliding. And the leap that not mentioning a block on thread you have no way of knowing if your blockees are even notified about is wolfy is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

Yeah, I'm confused by blocker and lynch avoidance in one role. And why Jilary never mentioned blocking yesterday.

lynch Jilary

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

Yeah I saw that too, she has defended a little bit, at least we may have learned a bit about her role/ability, and that seems to have not peaked too many other people's interests. I have to assume that players who have played this game before have better feels for people than I do, if everyone would have been really concerned with her defend, they would have jumped on it. At least Kam is someone else that we haven't already learned too much about to spark a new discussion.

If you play an entire game based on the suspicions of players more experienced then you only you will get screwed over.

Converted Lupin has killed me twice after I have trusted her too much 🙂

 

[DVMDream]

Oh I know, I have been blocked and not mentioned it before as well.

So why use that as a basis for a lynch? Kind of odd really... if you admit it is something you have done or would do.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

@Gwenevre how did you find out there is a neutral party if your ability is passive?

 

[raf2769]

You think if she was a wolf, she would give up and reveal that info, guaranteeing her lynch, instead of trying to come up with a whackadoo reason to get another name on the board? 😵

True. Gah this game is messing with my head. I also trust genny thus far, so I'm going to unlynch kam and lynch jil

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

So why use that as a basis for a lynch? Kind of odd really... if you admit it is something you have done or would do.

It is a weak reason, I will fully admit that. I will probably waffle, but I wanted a vote in because I was about to leave for work. Now that I got the called I am delayed I can be here until lynch and see how it all plays out.

@Kam325 I'm having trouble seeing how STL's blabber is defending you? Mind helping me out here? I'm missing something. I also am just reading jibberish so there is that as well.

 

[finnickthedog]

I'm not excited about any of these lynches so at this point I am leaning towards Gwen just because she seems like the safest option. She would have been iseful if a villager but not so much anymre now that she's outed that ability.

And it is strange that she would just go ahead and remove the usefulness from her ability by so readily and publicly revealing it. What was the thinking there? I'm still waiting to cast a vote but thats where I'm at right now.

 

[Kam325]

It is a weak reason, I will fully admit that. I will probably waffle, but I wanted a vote in because I was about to leave for work. Now that I got the called I am delayed I can be here until lynch and see how it all plays out.

@Kam325 I'm having trouble seeing how STL's blabber is defending you? Mind helping me out here? I'm missing something. I also am just reading jibberish so there is that as well.

I was notified that I was redirected N2. I was not told anything about a block. But if Jil really did block me, STL's post explains why I didn't hear about it. He said he was both blocked and redirected but the block did nothing. I'm assuming Jil told him she blocked him and that's how he knew. @SummerTheLynx or @Jilary can either of you verify?

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

I was notified that I was redirected N2. I was not told anything about a block. But if Jil really did block me, STL's post explains why I didn't hear about it. He said he was both blocked and redirected but the block did nothing. I'm assuming Jil told him she blocked him and that's how he knew. @SummerTheLynx or @Jilary can either of you verify?

So there was 2 redirects in 1 night?

 

[SummerTheLynx]

I was notified that I was redirected N2. I was not told anything about a block. But if Jil really did block me, STL's post explains why I didn't hear about it. He said he was both blocked and redirected but the block did nothing. I'm assuming Jil told him she blocked him and that's how he knew. @SummerTheLynx or @Jilary can either of you verify?

Me apologies me feek, I cannot attest to this. Blocked I was told, and redirected I was told.

 

[Kam325]

Me apologies me feek, I cannot attest to this. Blocked I was told, and redirected I was told.

Hmm. Well I wasn't told anything about the block. And if I was lying about it I wouldn't have tagged you to corroborate. Modly inconsistency, I suppose. But your action did go through?

 

[heyyimhayley]

Even if Kam were a wolf, it doesnt make sense to me that her not saying on thread that she was blocked would make her Wolfy. There was still a kill, no? Admiting to the block potentially could even help build cred since you know if she were blocked she couldn't have done the kill.... So anyway, I don't have feels either way about Kam yet, bur I think this is faulty logic.