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Why still interested in a capri Lynch? I don't necessarily get that

Yeah. I find it interesting the wolf used their shot on genny last night and not the first night. They may not have felt threatened the first night but more last night. and genny was suspect of both you and dubs, adding to my suspicion of both of you


Cool

I've made my capri argument very clear, she has avoided both lynches and has not contributed many quality posts.
I may be wrong but she has not convinced me otherwise (no, I am not asking for a role reveal, just quality participation)

How do you know it was a wolf shot? You seem pretty sure about the mechanics of Genny's kill

If you're talking about the below - she also mentioned snowy who is village. and was suspicious of mpm and grebes. Genny (no offense) was off on both of those reads.
+pissed+

I agree with a lot of what's in this^ except for the first sentence. I kind of like a snowy, dubz, mutts pack right now. What do you think?
 
See, I figured this would likely happen because I didn't want to put on thread why I was feeling Coffee on D1. She sounded off to me early on, has improved somewhat with suspicion on her which is why I didn't vote for her immediately on D1 and didn't give reasons. I was waiting to see if her tone or post topics would change. I don't really get the whole "reaction test" thing, but I guess that's maybe sort of what I was trying to do?

Anyway my plan was to try and formulate an argument earlier yesterday about why she was making me feel squidgey but then OSCE happened and we all know how stellar my participation was because of that.

She may absolutely be a villager. However, I've played a game or two where Coffee and I were pm partners and both village so I like to think I know her tone and something just feels off.
She's not one that I've ever confidently read in any game, so I'll concede you your tone read. I don't trust it enough to vote there right now, but if someone points out something more concrete, I'd re-evaluate my read.
 
I think there is a good chance at least one wolf was on that lynch.
This was my thought process too.

I would recommend looking back at any game I’ve played in the last few months. How I played prior to clinics, and how I play now are very different, mostly due to time available in the day.

Also, I don’t like the way Mel switched off zig yesterday, and I’d be willing to vote there today.

I have not caught up again, and I only have a few minutes while waiting for blood to spin.

I actually have you (AM) as likely village. SOV is also reading like his normal village self, but for both of you it generally takes a little longer for me to get a really good read.

Mel and zig I have leaning wolf, though I’m not sure they’d both be wolves.

Everyone else is somewhere in the middle or I don’t have solid reads on yet.

When did I echo your thoughts?
These are two related posts. My question is if you find then both sketchy, but not necessarily both wolves, does that change your interpretation of the vote switch? I'm still under the belief that there was a wolf on Barks and with snowy flipped village I am wondering about my initial decision of ziggy as village. She seemed to be intentionally ignoring information last night and has been all over the place which was not like how she played in noob game, but I also am hesitant that I'm just being sensitive.

But, then again I don't like the SOV lynch right now and am also side eyeing people voting there.
 
I've made my capri argument very clear, she has avoided both lynches and has not contributed many quality posts.
I may be wrong but she has not convinced me otherwise (no, I am not asking for a role reveal, just quality participation)

How do you know it was a wolf shot? You seem pretty sure about the mechanics of Genny's kill

If you're talking about the below - she also mentioned snowy who is village. and was suspicious of mpm and grebes. Genny (no offense) was off on both of those reads.
Did you read the write up? Seems pretty clear she was shot. idk what kind of villager would've shot her

Just because she was off on other reads doesn't mean she couldn't have also been right with some. That's not a very good argument.

Night 2 - Interlude
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The skiers were all ready to hit the slopes in the morning. One skier in particular was excited to head up to Jay Peak, a resort in far northern Vermont, known for having low crowds and the heaviest annual snowfall of any eastern resort.

She had just put her skis into the cargo bin on her car...when all of a sudden, a shot rang out from deep in a nearby evergreen glade. The group of friends looked on in horror as one of their own bled out into the snow.

Dead is @genny , Jay Peak - Vanillager.

Coordinates
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44°55′46″N 72°31′56″W
Vertical 2,153 feet (656 m)
Top elevation 3,858 feet (1,176 m)
Base elevation 1,843 feet (562 m)
Skiable area 385 acres (1.56 km2)
Runs 79
20% Novice
40% Intermediate
40% Advanced
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*Skiers*
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @WildZoo
4. @Dinashadow
6. @mypetmoose
7. @Skimble
8. @grebes4lyfe
9. @muttmanager
11. @SARdoghandler
12. @StartingoverVet
13. @ziggyandjazzy
14. @CoffeeQuestionMark
15. @Melchizedek
16. @dolphin106258
17. @Barkley13
18. @capri1722
19. @Mad Jack
20. @SportPonies
21. @MSUcvmHOPE
23. @killerleaf


*Après-Ski*
3. @cubsrule4e - Tenney, Vanillager
5. @bryndiana.jones - Stratton - Vanillager
22. @SnowshoeDog143 - Green Woodlands - Vanillager
10. @genny - Jay Peak - Vanillager

19/23 remaining.
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CURRENT SNOW REPORT FOR JAY PEAK
THURSDAY, JANUARY 31st 2019

Snow: Machine groomed | Base Depth: 30" | Summit Depth: 48"
Lifts open: 9/9
Runs open: 78/79
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It is STILL NIGHT TWO (for a moment)

Night will close momentarily.

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Mel is starting to remind me of @DVMDream ( hi dvmd - only love here)...stubborn, argumentative, clearly wrong, pisses me off, makes me want to lynch them, but doesn’t make em a wolf, so I have to restrain myself.

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How can I be wrong when you're always the wrong one??? 😉
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Wait ok I have no clue why I thought Capri had been NK’d and flipped village.
Wtf is wrong with me.

Not caught up at all just saw the Capri stuff and got confused and realized I was crazy.

####unlynch sporty#####
####lynch capri####
 
Did you read the write up? Seems pretty clear she was shot. idk what kind of villager would've shot her

Just because she was off on other reads doesn't mean she couldn't have also been right with some. That's not a very good argument.

There was some discussion around a village vigilante, yes unlikely gent would be a village target but not outside the realm of possibility.

Do you have any of your own thoughts on me?

Bc she was wrong about me as well and I had her in my village leans so why would I be scared of her vague mention of me in a wolf pack. I have addressed the stronger claims against me and multiple people have decided against my lynch
 
Remember last game when none of the village PRs died? That was nice 🙄

unlynch barks

I found it, where I want to vote

Lynch Mutts

Reasons
1. Listed two players as sketch first
2. Picked a comment from a front runner which was a rhetorical question in response to ziggy... ziggy was making a point about not responding to a lynch vote, and barkley says when have I ever responded to a lynch vote? As ziggy implied she had or would, and barkley is sketch for implying it isn't her playstyle.
3. Has been quiet and I know she is more experienced than this to be contributing more

If you don't know, then you're not reading between the lines.

You mean her "don't Lynch a PR bit"? that just made me lol

If there is something else I am missing, feel free to tell me then.

Eh in that perhaps for a last minute waffle, I agree. Eh in that it isn't worthwhile to pursue, I disagree, and I definitely would like to see more pressure there to get her to talk.

@muttmanager new thoughts?

Don’t lynch me. I’m catching up now.

To coffees “reasoning”
I don’t usually use rl but I’m taking an evening class and work is s****y rn so I am not able to be as active as usual until early am or close to lynch close and the barks lynch were my strongest feels the math didn’t seem like strong reasoning to vote there but still sketchy

I saw something barks wrote so ##unlynch barks, lynch Capri##





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This was my thought process too.




These are two related posts. My question is if you find then both sketchy, but not necessarily both wolves, does that change your interpretation of the vote switch? I'm still under the belief that there was a wolf on Barks and with snowy flipped village I am wondering about my initial decision of ziggy as village. She seemed to be intentionally ignoring information last night and has been all over the place which was not like how she played in noob game, but I also am hesitant that I'm just being sensitive.

But, then again I don't like the SOV lynch right now and am also side eyeing people voting there.

There was some discussion around a village vigilante, yes unlikely gent would be a village target but not outside the realm of possibility.

Do you have any of your own thoughts on me?

Bc she was wrong about me as well and I had her in my village leans so why would I be scared of her vague mention of me in a wolf pack. I have addressed the stronger claims against me and multiple people have decided against my lynch

Ok hot take (this is where I have my own idea, maybe):
Several people have said they could see a wolf staying on the barks Lynch after the PR claim. I know this not to be true (2 people flipped village and I know my own affiliation).

I am about to go to class but will look back later. I have and beginning to increase side eyes at anyone claiming there was a wolf who stayed on that Lynch (which coffee just insinuated at, Dubs has said before, and I think Skim also said, could be wrong as like I said, need to go back). I suspect a wolf was on that Lynch and moved off so as to appear less suspect.

Dubs unlynched immediately, mutts only unlynched after I made it obvious what Barks had said. Both sketch points, but more sketch point to mutts. Also interesting to note in the "vote tracker" dubs made, she doesn't have mutts' change off barks, only her own. Mutts also seems very defensive. I wasn't even lynching her before but she has been defensive. She was also this way d1 with coffee. Hmm...
 
There was some discussion around a village vigilante, yes unlikely gent would be a village target but not outside the realm of possibility.

Do you have any of your own thoughts on me?

Bc she was wrong about me as well and I had her in my village leans so why would I be scared of her vague mention of me in a wolf pack. I have addressed the stronger claims against me and multiple people have decided against my lynch
I consider it outside the realm of possibility.
Edit and the "addressed the claims and people have decided against lynching me" reads very weird and sus.
 
Dubs unlynched immediately, mutts only unlynched after I made it obvious what Barks had said. Both sketch points, but more sketch point to mutts. Also interesting to note in the "vote tracker" dubs made, she doesn't have mutts' change off barks, only her own. Mutts also seems very defensive. I wasn't even lynching her before but she has been defensive. She was also this way d1 with coffee. Hmm...

The bold is false - I saw barks post on my own and said so when I was catching up. I have already said why I get defensive. Dolphin, AM decided against lynching me is what I was talking about.

Good job picking someone to investigate, your wrong, let’s move on and actually wolf hunt.
 
This was my thought process too.




These are two related posts. My question is if you find then both sketchy, but not necessarily both wolves, does that change your interpretation of the vote switch? I'm still under the belief that there was a wolf on Barks and with snowy flipped village I am wondering about my initial decision of ziggy as village. She seemed to be intentionally ignoring information last night and has been all over the place which was not like how she played in noob game, but I also am hesitant that I'm just being sensitive.

But, then again I don't like the SOV lynch right now and am also side eyeing people voting there.

Uh, in the noobs in space game, yes, she was kinda all over the place...and usually trying to start a bandwagon on someone at the last possible moments of the day. aarrgghhh. So, that is why I think she is village.
Went back and looked, and I am leaning Coffee? and MSU as village also, just because I feel that they are playing similar to the one game I played with them.
 
if I were planning a game, the perfect wolf trifecta would be WZ, AM and Mel. They have the gift of being able to turn any statement around, "the sky is green", make the argument reasonable, and convince that was the truth.
 
Uh, in the noobs in space game, yes, she was kinda all over the place...and usually trying to start a bandwagon on someone at the last possible moments of the day. aarrgghhh. So, that is why I think she is village.
Went back and looked, and I am leaning Coffee? and MSU as village also, just because I feel that they are playing similar to the one game I played with them.
Cough cough coffee wasn't village at the end of the noob game.

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WZ - claims to have switched to break the tie. Probably the least sus. of these three but still gives me pause
WZ breaking a tie makes you less suspicious of her? DO YOU EVEN KNOW HER?!?!?!? 🤣

Don't have time to hunt down quotes right now, I think it had something to do with capri, and then the bj lynch.
Hmm... I don't recall really echoing you. I know we made similar comments about the barks lynch, but that was about it.

This was my thought process too.




These are two related posts. My question is if you find then both sketchy, but not necessarily both wolves, does that change your interpretation of the vote switch? I'm still under the belief that there was a wolf on Barks and with snowy flipped village I am wondering about my initial decision of ziggy as village. She seemed to be intentionally ignoring information last night and has been all over the place which was not like how she played in noob game, but I also am hesitant that I'm just being sensitive.

But, then again I don't like the SOV lynch right now and am also side eyeing people voting there.
Interpretation of which vote switch? Mels? Probably not. See below.

Ok hot take (this is where I have my own idea, maybe):
Several people have said they could see a wolf staying on the barks Lynch after the PR claim. I know this not to be true (2 people flipped village and I know my own affiliation).

I am about to go to class but will look back later. I have and beginning to increase side eyes at anyone claiming there was a wolf who stayed on that Lynch (which coffee just insinuated at, Dubs has said before, and I think Skim also said, could be wrong as like I said, need to go back). I suspect a wolf was on that Lynch and moved off so as to appear less suspect.

Dubs unlynched immediately, mutts only unlynched after I made it obvious what Barks had said. Both sketch points, but more sketch point to mutts. Also interesting to note in the "vote tracker" dubs made, she doesn't have mutts' change off barks, only her own. Mutts also seems very defensive. I wasn't even lynching her before but she has been defensive. She was also this way d1 with coffee. Hmm...
The bolded is kind of my thinking about mel switching off your vote, and actually gives you a tiny village point if mel is wolf.
 
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Omg, we should make a game that is a mashup of all the most frustrating and terrible mechanics
*Hunger games volunteer gif*

Absolutely would mod this with you. I can think of at least 3 mechanics I have created that pissed people off/rightfully confused them to no end (DVMD's and dolphin's roles in afterparty, the last speed game I ran where I forgot to adjust the wolf ratio down to match the number of players who signed up and also still gave them power roles...there are probably more). Also could just make it a game of infinite night cancels and rezzes. The worst.

Cute grebes
😍
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Also interesting to note in the "vote tracker" dubs made, she doesn't have mutts' change off barks, only her own.
Nope
Hopefully I didn't make too many errors here...

Day 1 Lynch Tracker

killer (1) - sobsob
grebes (1) - AM
cheezit (1) - skilary
AM (1) - capri
AM (2) - MSU
MSU (1) - barks
capri (1) - grebes
dubz (1) - sportsport
AM (3) - dubz
dubz (2) - killer
barks (1) - zig
Killer (0) - sobsob
cubs (1) - sobsob
sobsob (1) - cubs
cubs
(2) - mpm
sobsob (0) - cubs
AM (2) - MSU
dubz (3) - SAR
zig (1) - cheez
AM (1) - dubz
barks (2) - dubz
sporty (1) - genny
cheez (2) - dolphin
barks (3) - mutts
cubs (3) - MJ
barks (4) - snowy
coffee? (1) - cubs
grebes (1) - AM
snowy (1) - AM
sporty (0) - genny
cubs (4) - genny
dubz (2) - SAR
coffee? (2) - SAR
coffee? (1) - cubs
barks (5) - cubs
dubz (3) - dina
dubz (2) - sport
coffee? (2) - sport
genny (1) - MSU
barks (4) - dubz
coffee (3) - dubz
mutts (1) - coffee
coffee (2) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
capri (2) - bj
barks (3) - mutts
capri (3) - mutts
snowy (1) - dubz
zig (2) - dubz
I didn't have it originally but I edited it it once I realized I had missed mutts' switch
 
WZ breaking a tie makes you less suspicious of her? DO YOU EVEN KNOW HER?!?!?!? 🤣
Hehe. Not yet apparently.
Hmm... I don't recall really echoing you. I know we made similar comments about the barks lynch, but that was about it.
Yeah but I made them first so yours were echoes 😉
I get weird about people, who I'm used to being sort of at odds with, agreeing with me. It's a complex of some sort.
 
So these are the quotes that made me feel weird about coffee yesterday:


This one in particular. Was her first significant post of substance and a lot of mechanics talk, not a lot of anything else.

This response feels.... off.



This is after me saying that she was setting off my feels, but still is icky.

I've noticed some better play from her today, but a whole lot of questions and not a whole lot of individual analysis on her part. Is there anyone with a better grasp on Coffee's meta? Is this normal for her? I feel like it's been a century since I've played with her.
How do you feel about Coffee today? I can say I've played with her and she was very convincing as a converted wolf in the noob game.
 
WZ breaking a tie makes you less suspicious of her? DO YOU EVEN KNOW HER?!?!?!? 🤣


Hmm... I don't recall really echoing you. I know we made similar comments about the barks lynch, but that was about it.


Interpretation of which vote switch? Mels? Probably not. See below.


The bolded is kind of my thinking about mel switching off your vote, and actually gives you a tiny village point if mel is wolf.

It makes sense considering dubz would've been up for an rng death for being tie maker
 
Unofficial Day 3 Cat Skijoring is the New Dogsledding Lynch Tally

SOV (3) - AM, Mel, SAR
Dubz (1) - Zigzag
Sporty (1) - Dubz
killer (1) - SOV
capri (2) - Dina, grebes

8/18 voting

Lynch closes at 10pm Eastern (approximately 5 hours)

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Day 3 Cat Skijoring is the New Dogsledding Lynch Tally

SOV (3) - AM, Mel, SAR
Dubz (1) - Zigzag
Sporty (1) - Dubz
killer (1) - SOV
capri (2) - Dina, grebes

Only 8/18 voting 😢
MOAR DEATH REQUESTED...or else.

Lynch closes at 10pm Eastern (approximately 5 hours)

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Edit: @Animal Midwife over here trying to steal my tips by providing better, faster service. I see how it is :ninja:
 
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Nope

I didn't have it originally but I edited it it once I realized I had missed mutts' switch
Yes. You originally have it without mutts' switch. Long enough so that I have the quote in my PM. Whether you edited or not does not negate that you originally left it out.
 
For pressure and not voting yesterday Lynch MJ for now.
I'm not sold on SOV, going to re-examine.
I'm really not getting a wolf feel from Capri, but that may also be due to lack of input.
Waiting to hear more from Sporty before I decide how I feel there too.
 
It makes sense considering dubz would've been up for an rng death for being tie maker
Yes, I know, it’s still a funny comment if you know anything about how wz feels about ties.

After a short re-read of today, grebes is giving me some feels, and I will be putting my vote there for now. I’d also be down with lynching Mel or zig.

Lynch grebes

Edit for stupid autocorrect
 
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Yes. You originally have it without mutts' switch. Long enough so that I have the quote in my PM. Whether you edited or not does not negate that you originally left it out.
Yes...because I didn't see her unbolded vote buried in a paragraph. Are you seriously trying to say that's suspicious? What would be the utility in my leaving out something that would be clearly visible in the end of day tally? I even later quoted the tally and asked if anyone could find the post.
 
it was a reaction test for AM

@dolphin106258 how do you feel about Mutts and AM right now?

ISO'ing Coffee right now since a few people have been bringing up her name

Edit: Ninja'd by Dubz.....on everything
I feel slight village on AM at this moment, and still have mutts in neutral, gonna go back and reread all of their total posts to see how I feel.

Lynch Mel

For now because I still have some feels about your posts overall, also not opposed to a coffee lynch bc I can see what others have pointed out thus far.
 
You guys are putting a lot of stock in Freudian slip type things...
 
I know I was supposed to be ISO-ing mutts which I was but stumbled upon the bolded and just find it so odd. What did you mean by this? Mutts can’t have gone back to get quotes or something, or couldn’t have possibly found them earlier on and quoted a bunch of things...like idk it’s probs dumb to be hung up on this but like why are you even saying this? Is this supposed to be a good argument.
Could've been a lucky kill

She posted about looking into you and capri.

Sn - that's 2 people that suspected capri NK'd and I'm willing to consider she's being framed - i dont fully believe it yet but its a strong possibility





SAR flagging that she changed her mind about zig was weird bc reads change esp d1 reads - that's not wolfy imo

I'm feeling theres a wolf between SAR, SOV, Zig, Capri *in this order

Snowy flipping village gave AM some skecth points but not more than those listed above

Edited to fix Sporty to SAR, my bad Sporty

You haven't been following my posts that closely then. I said I thought you were village a couple times, even said you voting for me d1 made sense. What actually sketched me out was you not going for me.



I find it interesting that you just had these quotes... ready to go[/QUOTE]
 
Day 3 Cat Skijoring is the New Dogsledding Lynch Tally

SOV (3) - AM, Mel, SAR
Dubz (1) - Zigzag
Sporty (1) - Dubz
killer (1) - SOV
capri (2) - Dina, grebes
MJ (1) - MSU
Grebes (1) - skim
Mel (1) - dolphin

Only 11/18 voting 😢
MOAR DEATH REQUESTED...or else.

Lynch closes at 10pm Eastern (approximately 4.5 hours)

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*Hunger games volunteer gif*

Absolutely would mod this with you. I can think of at least 3 mechanics I have created that pissed people off/rightfully confused them to no end (DVMD's and dolphin's roles in afterparty, the last speed game I ran where I forgot to adjust the wolf ratio down to match the number of players who signed up and also still gave them power roles...there are probably more). Also could just make it a game of infinite night cancels and rezzes. The worst.


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I just went back and reread that PM lol. I was so dumb then.
 
if I were planning a game, the perfect wolf trifecta would be WZ, AM and Mel. They have the gift of being able to turn any statement around, "the sky is green", make the argument reasonable, and convince that was the truth.
consider me pocketed 😍

@Melchizedek if not SOV, who do you have next up?
Looking at SAR and Sporty. ZJ's recent analysis is really not holding up and I might be tunneling at this point, but she just seems like she's calling everyone sketch to look like she's wolf hunting.

I know I was supposed to be ISO-ing mutts which I was but stumbled upon the bolded and just find it so odd. What did you mean by this? Mutts can’t have gone back to get quotes or something, or couldn’t have possibly found them earlier on and quoted a bunch of things...like idk it’s probs dumb to be hung up on this but like why are you even saying this? Is this supposed to be a good argument.
I didn't want to be the one to point out that post in case I was tunneling or ZJ started taking it personally. Between the stuff she's saying about Mutts, and the theory about Dubz purposely leaving a vote out of her vote trackers, I can't decide between saying ZJ is just not good at wolf hunting yet v.s. a wolf struggling to fake wolf-hunt.
 
consider me pocketed 😍


Looking at SAR and Sporty. ZJ's recent analysis is really not holding up and I might be tunneling at this point, but she just seems like she's calling everyone sketch to look like she's wolf hunting.


I didn't want to be the one to point out that post in case I was tunneling or ZJ started taking it personally. Between the stuff she's saying about Mutts, and the theory about Dubz purposely leaving a vote out of her vote trackers, I can't decide between saying ZJ is just not good at wolf hunting yet v.s. a wolf struggling to fake wolf-hunt.
I want to lean towards your first statement vs this is fake wolf hunting but I definitely could be wrong. That’s just the feeling I’m getting from the posts tho, obviously nothing concrete.
 
Day 3 Cat Skijoring is the New Dogsledding Lynch Tally

SOV (3) - AM, Mel, SAR
Dubz (1) - Zigzag
Sporty (2) - Dubz
killer (1) - SOV
capri (2) - Dina, grebes

Only 8/18 voting 😢
MOAR DEATH REQUESTED...or else.

Lynch closes at 10pm Eastern (approximately 5 hours)

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Edit: @Animal Midwife over here trying to steal my tips by providing better, faster service. I see how it is :ninja:
Also what the heck it’s almost 7 and 10 people haven’t voted....well 9 now that MJ did. But still.

Edit: lol I think I picked the wrong one lol, my point is still vote people.
 
lynch capri

I'll be in class until 9:35 *in case anyone has questions but, I think I've made my point here clear
 
Day 3 Cat Skijoring is the New Dogsledding Lynch Tally

SOV (3) - AM, Mel, SAR
Dubz (1) - Zigzag
Sporty (1) - Dubz
killer (1) - SOV
capri (4) - Dina, grebes, MJ, mutts
MJ (1) - MSU
Grebes (1) - skim
Mel (1) - dolphin

13/18 voting
@capri1722 you are in the lead!

Lynch closes at 10pm Eastern (approximately 3 hours)

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lynch capri

I'll be in class until 9:35 *in case anyone has questions but, I think I've made my point here clear
Yes but idk why if you were so solid in it you didn’t drop a vote sooner but whatever I guess.
 
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