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WildZoo said:
DocE is subbing in for killer!
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The Dead's D5 We're Thawing Out! (Except for Pippy) Lynch Tally

koffeebean? (6) - dina, mj, SOV, MSU, mel, dolphin
sov () -
dubz () -
skim () -
mel (5) - dubz, Skim, SportySpice, cray, zigjazz
mj (1) - sar
ev er y one (1) - coffeebean

13/14
Coffee? is in the lead!

Missing: DocE

Deadline 10pm est (~4 hours)

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dolphin106258 said:
Coffee, Mel and Ziggy all bound up in a tie RNG, I’m kinda happy about that. Bc I have literally no idea, like I’m sure there’s a wolf on Coffee’s lynch maybe even both of them, but I doubt that. But like who is it...I really just have too many conflicting thoughts.
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dolphin106258 said:
Lynch coffee


But I’m basically gonna go read all of AM’s posts to recalibrate my life bc at the moment I don’t trust anyone else. Even tho she has way too many pages because of those dang lynch tallies.
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So you're kind of happy about the tie... but you wanna break it anyways

And you think the wolves are on coffee (indicating she would be alpha) but you still want to vote there

Makes no sense.
 
I'm feeling really not good about this lynch guys.

Coffee is a lazy vote that gives us literally no new information and we don't know if she is a real alpha and therefore we could be wasting an entire day.

I still can't read Mel, but my gut says he's village.

This is going to turn into a wasted day (but I'd love to be wrong).
 
Rereading w/ dead villagers on ignore is fun. Reached a stopping point and gonna go study some more, so noting things before I forget.

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I was going to lynch grebes because she was hard for me to read noob game and wanted to see more posts but knowing she is flying I don't see that doing much.
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Weak

SARdoghandler said:
Unlynch dubz

Lynch coffee

I'm pretty null between cubs and barks. Both have sketch points from things they said today
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Vote for coffee out of the blue without any explanation gets no +v points from me

grebes4lyfe said:
how are my reads copies? I feel like I expanded on other people's reads with new analysis, but did not just copy other people's reads at all. yes i sometimes use other's reads for guidance on where i should be looking, there are a lot of vets out there with more experience reading the nuances of this game and it would be stupid to play with the outlook of "oh, someone else made this valid point or noticed this weird pattern of behavior, i guess i can't use that ever now" but since i got called out for sheeping in dogs i make a point to add my own analysis too.
I was the first person on capri yesterday, and stayed on her today. someone else said that they'd like to hear more from her and we haven't heard anymore so i'm staying on her.... and we still haven't gotten any more from her so i'm happy to stay here.
people were saying that zig is always pretty emotional/defensive and that they weren't sure if it was wolfy or not coming from her. i said that yes, she is usually pretty defensive, but that i've noticed it ramp up later in the game and that for her to get so riled up D1 was concerning. that is new greby analysis being added there.
i don't recall anybody mentioning they though coffee was sketch because of her explanations.... that was me. if someone did say that before me, i missed it.
yes, mel has called you hedgy in the past. you said specifically that you were trying to be less hedgy so that we couldn't tell affiliation. i didn't follow your logic and thought it was weird and called you sketch. if i had said "snowy is hedgy, that's weird" then yeah, it would have been sheeping, but again, i took info that you offered and that had been discussed earlier and expanded on it.
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grebes4lyfe said:
why am i in your wolfiest pile? anything besides that you feel like i am sheeping (when i'm not)?
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Seems a little defensive for one comment that didn't even earn a vote, but for the moment it feels like villa frustration at being called a sheep.

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Back home. These are what caught my eye today.

I feel like it's a circle because to me this reason comes off of as HIM not reading the thread carefully either, which he says he does as a wolf. So agree with @Melchizedek here.


What in the world does this even mean?


This seems very well thought out. Since you mentioned not wanting to lynch a noob, though, I'm interested to know your thoughts on the other candidates... e.g. capri and snowy, who are experienced?


This pinged as looking for a different kind of answer than dolphin provided, like in a fishing kind of way.







Why the switch here? You didn't mention capri in your wolfy feels. You told grebes you would re-evaluate after she posted, but she said nothing inbetween there and when you switched.
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This was a fun post because the only non-confirmed players she made comments towards were SAR and sobsob. The comment to SAR (second third line) wasn't even game related. She also never asked SAR about her vote for her that I saw, though she did get on sporty's case a bit. Interesting.
 
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SARdoghandler said:
I'm feeling really not good about this lynch guys.

Coffee is a lazy vote that gives us literally no new information and we don't know if she is a real alpha and therefore we could be wasting an entire day.

I still can't read Mel, but my gut says he's village.

This is going to turn into a wasted day (but I'd love to be wrong).
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It's never wrong to double tap. I didn't want the whole day just to be a coffee wagon but she never really behaved like a true alpha and I think it's likely she can die today.
 
SARdoghandler said:
I'm feeling really not good about this lynch guys.

Coffee is a lazy vote that gives us literally no new information and we don't know if she is a real alpha and therefore we could be wasting an entire day.

I still can't read Mel, but my gut says he's village.

This is going to turn into a wasted day (but I'd love to be wrong).
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I could be willing to switch. I'm stuck at the airport for another hour before my plane boards so let me go back through the thread and see if anything sticks out
 
SARdoghandler said:
I wish you could see my mod pm. But alas, I don't think me re-stating my reasoning on thread now would change your opinion so :shrug:
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Well that's why if you want the cred you gotta state your reasoning when it happens, otherwise it just looks like you're bussing 😛
 
DocEspana said:
Save me time. Are there any known wolves? Is coffee someone who resisted lunch before?
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Yesterday she claimed seer shortly before she was lynched. Nobody really believed her and she ended having the most votes then didn't get lynched.

That's the short story
 
WildZoo said:
It's never wrong to double tap. I didn't want the whole day just to be a coffee wagon but she never really behaved like a true alpha and I think it's likely she can die today.
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Yes, but we still don't get any extra information from her flip that we didn't have after yesterday.

WildZoo said:
Well that's why if you want the cred you gotta state your reasoning when it happens, otherwise it just looks like you're bussing 😛
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Ok but. My experience is if I justify my D1 vote then I get lynched early. If I cryptically drop a D1 vote, substantiated or not, without any justification... I don't get lynched. So you see, I've been rewarded for doing this. It actually kind of kills me a little inside and I'm usually just waiting for someone to ask me why. But it works to not get me lynched.

At least until you come and fabricate a tunnel on me. Which I can smell in the air is totally what you're starting to think about 😉
 
DocEspana said:
Save me time. Are there any known wolves? Is coffee someone who resisted lunch before?
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Here's another time saver for you. Lynch tallies colour coded for known affiliations as most recently done by Ziggy

Day 1 Lynch Tally
Killerleaf () -
grebes () -
Mel (2) - Skilary, dolphin
AM (1) - capri
MSU () -
Capri (3) - Grebes, Bryndi, mutts
WZ (2) - killerleaf, dina
Barks (3) - Ziggy, snowy, cubs
Cubs (5) - SOV, petmoosy, MJ, genny, Barks
SOV () -
Zigjaz (2) - Mel, dubz
Sporty () -
Coffee (2) - SAR, sporty
Snowy (1) - AM
genny (1) - MSU
Mutts (1) - coffeebean

23/23

Day 2 Lynch Tally
capri (4) - grebes, killerleaf, Snowy, mutts
snowy (6) - dolphin, genny, capri, zigjaz, koffee, WZ
zigjaz (3) - skim, SOV, mpm
dubz () -
mpm (1) - Dina
mutts (2) - Barks, MSU
grebes () -
koffee (1) - Sporty
SOV (2) - Mel, AM

19/21
Missing: SAR, MJ

Day 3 Lynch Tally
SOV () -
Dubz () -
Sporty (2) - WZ, Mel
killer (1) - SOV
capri (5) - Dina, grebes, MJ, mutts, coffeebean
MJ () -
Grebes (1) - skim
Mel (3) - dolphin, Sporty, MSU
Coffeebean (4) - AM, killer, SAR, capri
Mutts (2) - BarkBark, zigzag

18/18

Day 4 Hey You, No Sledding on the Groomed Trails! Lynch Tally

Coffee? (6) - AM, Dina, zigzag, SAR, killer, MSU
Sporty (1) - Cray
Mel (3) - Sporty, skim, MJ
mutts () -
Skim (1) - dubz
MSU (1) - SOV
SOV () -
Ziggy (3) - coffee, Mel, dolphin

15/15 voting
 
SARdoghandler said:
Yes, but we still don't get any extra information from her flip that we didn't have after yesterday.



Ok but. My experience is if I justify my D1 vote then I get lynched early. If I cryptically drop a D1 vote, substantiated or not, without any justification... I don't get lynched. So you see, I've been rewarded for doing this. It actually kind of kills me a little inside and I'm usually just waiting for someone to ask me why. But it works to not get me lynched.

At least until you come and fabricate a tunnel on me. Which I can smell in the air is totally what you're starting to think about 😉
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I get that, but if it's what we have to do to kill her... :shrug: There should be some info from the lynch progression today at least. And we will know whether she's alpha or just has a lynch avoidance.

I can't help you with that, I don't typically lynch people for providing reasoning with their votes lol
I'm not fabricating anything, and also people are throwing the word "tunnel" around all willy nilly this game. Bringing up sketchy things that I find is not tunneling, especially when I'm not even voting for you and don't plan to until I at least get the cheezit/SOV situation cleared up.
 
SARdoghandler said:
I'm feeling really not good about this lynch guys.

Coffee is a lazy vote that gives us literally no new information and we don't know if she is a real alpha and therefore we could be wasting an entire day.

I still can't read Mel, but my gut says he's village.

This is going to turn into a wasted day (but I'd love to be wrong).
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What has he done at all to seem village? Pretty much nothing imo

an MJ Lynch isn't going to pick up steam today. Lynching Mel or coffee will give us more info

DocEspana said:
Save me time. Are there any known wolves? Is coffee someone who resisted lunch before?
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Yes, coffee
 
I'm looking over the lynch tracker and I think I want to stay on coffee as boring as that is. I know there's a chance we waste a day but at least we'll know for sure if she's alpha in the process.

I do find it interesting how SOV waffled around trying to create ties. He stopped at coffee? but at the end just decided to go back to killer. I keep finding little subtleties in VCA that link them together but it could just be my tin foil growing.
 
SARdoghandler said:
And my MJ lynch may not pick up steam, but I'm sticking with it anyway
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I wouldn't care about this if I hadn't already done this.
This feels like you don't want to commit to a real vote given the options.
 
MSUcvmHOPE said:
I wouldn't care about this if I hadn't already done this.
This feels like you don't want to commit to a real vote given the options.
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Given the options of Coffee, which I think is lazy, or Mel who I can't read but for unsubstantiated reasons I feel is village?

Nah, I'll stay far away from that thank you very much.
 
Dinashadow said:
I'm looking over the lynch tracker and I think I want to stay on coffee as boring as that is. I know there's a chance we waste a day but at least we'll know for sure if she's alpha in the process.

I do find it interesting how SOV waffled around trying to create ties. He stopped at coffee? but at the end just decided to go back to killer. I keep finding little subtleties in VCA that link them together but it could just be my tin foil growing.
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I noticed that while looking into SOV earlier today, but I wasn't as triggered by his posts considering it seemed he was trying to get some answers. So I wasn't sure how that made me feel.
 
SARdoghandler said:
For the record, I still find SOV suspect and only increased that with some re-reading. So if anyone wants to go there either, let me know.
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My flight was just delayed so maybe....
 
SARdoghandler said:
Given the options of Coffee, which I think is lazy, or Mel who I can't read but for unsubstantiated reasons I feel is village?

Nah, I'll stay far away from that thank you very much.
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Noted.
 
I don't think SOV would be that great of a lynch just because he already has the PM thing. What are the odds he also has another power? Could be wrong about that speculation tho
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
I don't think SOV would be that great of a lynch just because he already has the PM thing. What are the odds he also has another power? Could be wrong about that speculation tho
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...But if he's a woof then we know two woofs. I'm confused as to how him claiming to be a neighbour makes him a poor lynch?
 
SARdoghandler said:
...But if he's a woof then we know two woofs. I'm confused as to how him claiming to be a neighbour makes him a poor lynch?
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Because I am under the impression the wolves may have a mimicker/stealer and possibly an ability seer. Very speculative though but I don't see one wolf getting to have a PM going on and have another ability. Probably silly reasoning, but it's what I feel atm
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Because I am under the impression the wolves may have a mimicker/stealer and possibly an ability seer. Very speculative though but I don't see one wolf getting to have a PM going on and have another ability. Probably silly reasoning, but it's what I feel atm
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I doubt they have both. Most likely just a mimic/thief, not a seer in addition to that because it is already functionally a seer.
 
SARdoghandler said:
Trust me, I know. I'm conflicted. I have no reasons outside of WIFOM, but my gut has this strange accuracy in WW.

And my MJ lynch may not pick up steam, but I'm sticking with it anyway
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SARdoghandler said:
Given the options of Coffee, which I think is lazy, or Mel who I can't read but for unsubstantiated reasons I feel is village?

Nah, I'll stay far away from that thank you very much.
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Staying on MJ is basically as lazy as a coffee lynch, my dude.

Not liking your play this evening at all.

Also don’t like your “unsubstantiated reasons” for thinking Mel is Village when you literally admit you can’t read him. Stop it.
 
WildZoo said:
I doubt they have both. Most likely just a mimic/thief, not a seer in addition to that because it is already functionally a seer.
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I wonder if the ability works if the person is acted on or they chose one person's to take.

Like idk if MPM, mutts, or barks acted on them or no.

Anyone else jailed besides MSU and mutts?
 
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