NutMMeg and The Spice Girls at the OWWlyMMpics: Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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Then explain what you meant when you said the wolves wouldn't let Bob die on D2, because the only way I interpret that is that you think the pushed a TME vote.

It means no

 

[Stagg737]

It means no

So you just think those on Bob’s wagon are soft cleared? Because that’s a totally different statement than “they wouldn’t let him die”.

 

[Animal Midwife]

So you just think those on Bob’s wagon are soft cleared? Because that’s a totally different statement than “they wouldn’t let him die”.

Hardcleared, Stagg. Please review the trackers again.

 

[Stagg737]

Also, if Genny is actually village and the remaining wolf has successful NKs, then we’re basically at Lylo

 

[Stagg737]

Hardcleared, Stagg. Please review the trackers again.

Lol, no. You get a soft clear, nice try though.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lol, no. You get a soft clear, nice try though.

If you can't clear anyone in your POE, either no one is posting or you're doing it wrong.

 

[Stagg737]

If you can't clear anyone in your POE, either no one is posting or you're doing it wrong.

If you've actually hard cleared someone without mod confirmation then you're being naive. A POE shouldn't actually eliminate options, it should just lead you to the best choices.

 

[Animal Midwife]

If you've actually hard cleared someone without mod confirmation then you're being naive. A POE shouldn't actually eliminate options, it should just lead you to the best choices.

What do you think POE stands for? Ruminate on that for a moment.

 

[Stagg737]

What do you think POE stands for? Ruminate on that for a moment.

I know what it stands for, but eliminating players without mod confirmation is literally how wolves win.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I know what it stands for, but eliminating players without mod confirmation is literally how wolves win.

Poor elimination is just as bad as no elimination. Village bloc exists as a term for a reason. If you wait for a flip to put a stake in the sand, you're only helping wolves.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Now are you going to keep arguing with me or are you going to case your wolf? I'm here to discuss your perspective. I'm not here to argue about those I've yeeted this game being "naivety".

 

[genny]

Does anyone want to report being attacked on N3 or 4?

 

[Stagg737]

Now are you going to keep arguing with me or are you going to case your wolf? I'm here to discuss your perspective. I'm not here to argue about those I've yeeted this game being "naivety".

I've already made a few, but no one seems to want to discuss that, soooooooo

Does anyone want to report being attacked on N3 or 4?

I'm also curious about @Chaostrodon 's actions since he already revealed his abilities and both blockers are dead.

ETA: as well as the reflector

 

[Animal Midwife]

I've already made a few, but no one seems to want to discuss that, sooooooo

There are not three wolves left. There's one. I want a case for the one you think it is with a maximum of one backup, if you please.

 

[Stagg737]

There are not three wolves left. There's one. I want a case for the one you think it is with a maximum of one backup, if you please.

I've already said it multiple times, Genny or Dubz. Logically speaking I'd probably say Genny, but there are certain things in her play that give me doubts and there are things in Dubz play that just feel wrong or too convenient. If I were IC, these would be my next 2 votes unless one of them was NK'd. I realize that for most the POE is me and Genny and we're probably eggs that need to be cracked. But if Genny is actually village then we're pretty screwed imo.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I've already said it multiple times, Genny or Dubz. Logically speaking I'd probably say Genny, but there are certain things in her play that give me doubts and there are things in Dubz play that just feel wrong or too convenient. If I were IC, these would be my next 2 votes unless one of them was NK'd. I realize that for most the POE is me and Genny and we're probably eggs that need to be cracked. But if Genny is actually village then we're pretty screwed imo.

Then explain why one of them is likely wolf. I don't want anything from D3 or later.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Zenge is great for getting keeping it cool with a anti-utility role, keeping a wagon from forming on himself despite worse-case scenario occuring, while simultaneously keeping the seer hidden with his responses.

 

[Stagg737]

Then explain why one of them is likely wolf. I don't want anything from D3 or later.

Sure, be prepared for a wall.

 

[Stagg737]

Genny iso:

He has been here. Dutifully, like a good wolf, he said something innocuous. Need more data, but it was enough to make me wonder.

Said this about Cubs D1 before dropping a vote on him. Early shade.

I was blocked last night, and the flavor makes it pretty obvious what the role name might be. If Spice Girls are wolves, this was village.

I doubt all the wolves are spice girls. Seems too easy.

Only if you know all the role names

She started the talk about Spice Girls being wolves, which I did perpetuate and was not clear about. However, the subtle implication that the wolves are spice girls is what made my messages unclear.

You say this like Zenge flipped village.

In response to Dubz saying that she was keeping in mind that Genny never moved her vote off Zenge. Not sure who this says more about (Dubz or Genny), but the brief interaction stood out to me. Maybe Dubz throwing shade and Genny throwing shade back?

I don't think Bob is particularly sketchy either. I wouldn't toss him on the village pile just yet, but I'm not in any hurry to yeet him.

This is in response to me saying I preferred a TME flip over Bob because it would give more info. For context I said I didn't see as much sketch in Bob as others, not that I didn't find Bob sketchy. I also don't think I've ever seen Genny agree with me, which makes this stand out to me. Almost feels like a soft pocket attempt.

Because he practically dared me to vote for him when Pip was getting voted out. He was trying to shake up that D1 vote without seeming too obvious about it. I think he’s the kind of wolf that would let Pip go down rather than risk revealing the whole pack.

In response to Visc asking why Cubs on early D3. It just doesn't make sense to me. If Cubs seems like the kind of wolf that would let Pip go down rather than reveal the pack, why would he try and shake things up and if he was a wolf why would he dare someone to vote for him? More throwing shade at Cubs.

This is a weird assumption. I'm going to go ahead and give you wolf points for it, unless you want to come out and claim olympic villager.

Said to Cubs when he was questioning the idea that role names are NAI. Seems like a weird reason to give someone wolf points to me and either bad tunneling or shading.

I've been thinking about this quote. And why Cray was N1 kill rather than AM or Alley.

This was in response to Cray's post about dreaming that Visc was a wolf. Seems like a really strange thing to note, especially since Cray just kind of said it in passing.

AM, what do you think of cubs? Am I just stuck in a tunnel?

Looking for justification for shading Cubs? Trying to gauge if she can get AM on board to vote for him and testing the water on building a wagon there? Maybe nothing, maybe something.

Ok, how about if I ask who's in your POE?

To Bob after he and AM had been arguing and AM kept asking for his POE. Bob almost immediately gave a POE after this. Could be gentle shading by Genny to look a little better while also giving Bob a reason to give reads. His POE at that point was Cubs, then Dubz, then Mel and put Genny squarely in the village reads with AM, Alley, and Vis.

 

[Stagg737]

Then explain why one of them is likely wolf. I don't want anything from D3 or later.

Also, Genny had very minimal contributions to wolf hunting or really any kind of game related content for almost 2 days. So guess what, not a lot there to use unless you just want a full page worth of jokes.

 

[Stagg737]

Glad I posted as much as I did today, really made a difference /s

Unvote Dubz
Vote Genny

Since fetch isn't going to happen

 

[Animal Midwife]

genny, thanks for reminding me I can write more than one-liners sometimes. I generally prefer to avoid doing it, but at least this had a positive impact on the gamestate by allowing me to remind myself how good village has been so far.

 

[genny]

I also don't think I've ever seen Genny agree with me, which makes this stand out to me.

This is the best part of that wall. I'm sketchy because I agreed with you. LOL

 

[Stagg737]

Points against Dubz: Opened the game with "sup dudes" which seemed suspicious to a bunch of people. Mel felt pretty uneasy about her early on and felt worse about her for the first couple of days. Cray also felt pretty sus of Dubz early on and then died N1. Not sure if wolves trying to sus Dubz or them legit killing Cray. Would also answer "why Cray and not AM or Alley", Cray wouldn't be afraid to really go after Dubz. I doubt Alley would do that as she's too new to really read wolf Dubz and AM is more hesitant to vote Dubz than she would most others.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Glad I posted as much as I did today, really made a difference /s

Unvote Dubz
Vote Genny

Since fetch isn't going to happen

Did you change your mind on dubz?

 

[Stagg737]

This is the best part of that wall. I'm sketchy because I agreed with you. LOL

I'd challenge AM to find any post anywhere on this site other than that one where you've agreed with me, lol.

 

[Stagg737]

Did you change your mind on dubz?

No, but they're my top 2 by far and there's a 0% chance of Dubz getting voted out tonight.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Okay thank you for the posts. I'll reference them if you flip village.

 

[Stagg737]

Okay thank you for the posts. I'll reference them if you flip village.

Start writing then, lol.

 

[Stagg737]

To the thread, I'm Baby Spice, I can PM someone new each cycle. Started as PM every night, but mods changed it to every day d/t some mechanical issues.

N1: Talked to AM
D/N2: Was blocked
D3: Talked to Alley
D4: Talked to Vis

Nothing particularly incriminating in any of these. Made me feel much better about Alley. PM with AM was pretty bland. Vis basically said "I don't have anything to say in here that I wouldn't share on thread". However, did agree that Dubz seems to be flying under the radar in terms of scrutiny.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Start writing then, lol.

Why do I have to write? I've been writing for days.

 

[WildZoo]

Points against Dubz: Opened the game with "sup dudes" which seemed suspicious to a bunch of people. Mel felt pretty uneasy about her early on and felt worse about her for the first couple of days. Cray also felt pretty sus of Dubz early on and then died N1. Not sure if wolves trying to sus Dubz or them legit killing Cray. Would also answer "why Cray and not AM or Alley", Cray wouldn't be afraid to really go after Dubz. I doubt Alley would do that as she's too new to really read wolf Dubz and AM is more hesitant to vote Dubz than she would most others.

Lol

 

[Stagg737]

Hmm not speaking for pippy but my concern with cray is more that she's been here but quiet. Usually if cray is here and liking stuff she's posting too. Not liking stuff without commenting. Feels weird.

D1, softly trying to shift suspicion off Pippy and onto Cray?

 

[Stagg737]

Idk, I don't have wolf!cray meta in my head because lately she's been a wolf when I'm modding, and I don't pay attention when I'm modding. I just know it feels weird for village!cray

Excuse for not being able to give a solid read on Cray. Hedgy AF.

 

[Stagg737]

T
This makes me so sad, because I would think you of all people could know best how my wolf brain works. Alas. Assuming you're telling the truth and not just sidestepping reading me village.

Cray responds to Dubz not being able to read her.

Sorry. It's just never my focus when I'm modding.

 

[Stagg737]

Z was also, I think, shading pippy's cray vote when we were discussing it, which makes me feel pretty ok about him too

Attempt at a village read on the N2 kill target.

 

[Stagg737]

I guess. Doesn't feel right though. Not for how much sporty was giggling about this game design.

Also acknowledging that all the SG are probably not wolves.

 

[Stagg737]

Oddly enough I kind of believe the reasoning Mel gave for his movements. In the most begrudging way.

And I don't think Z was retconning, I read his original post with that meaning.

More interested in bob/cubs/TE I think. Waiting for stagg to say anything that I can read either way.

Village point for Dubz for the Bob interest

 

[Melchizedek]

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Zenge is great for getting keeping it cool with a anti-utility role, keeping a wagon from forming on himself despite worse-case scenario occuring, while simultaneously keeping the seer hidden with his responses.

How come I haven't won anything yet?😢
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[Stagg737]

Our reads are spookily similar

In response to Z's reads. Looked to be doing some subtle pocketing on Zenge in several posts before he was killed. Possibly trying to align herself with someone she knows will flip village.

 

[SportPonies]

Day closed?

Sorry I was crappy at tallying. KD was driving and I've been recovering from a headache most of the day.

 

[Animal Midwife]

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How come I haven't won anything yet?😢
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I'm still grieving.

 

[Stagg737]

I'm not on your vote!

But in any case I was gonna ask for a summary and tally when I got done driving earlier, then was like "oh wait I have an hour" but that was wrong because I'm in the fake timezone now. Sigh.

So mixing up time zones on D2 voting, then showing up conveniently late on D3 when she and Chaos have supposed mod-info on Bob. I know she's road-tripping, but it doesn't mean she couldn't plan it either.

 

[WildZoo]

Village point for Dubs for the Bob interest

Why do I have an s

 

[Stagg737]

Can I keep posting until write-up or am I dead?

 

[WildZoo]

So mixing up time zones on D2 voting, then showing up conveniently late on D3 when she and Chaos have supposed mod-info on Bob. I know she's road-tripping, but it doesn't mean she couldn't plan it either.

What is it with wolves and pretending that I play like this

 

[Stagg737]

Why do I have an s

I have no idea what you're talking about......

 

[Stagg737]

What is it with wolves and pretending that I play like this

Apparently villagers like to pretend this to, as you'll see with my flip.

 

[SportPonies]

Can I keep posting until write-up or am I dead?

you can keep going

 

[Stagg737]

Also, apparently my personality is just so innocent I can melt anyone with it. Last night I submitted a night action to melt Dubz, but apparently the mods lied to me about my personality.