I think both programs hurt to some extent because geography doesn't allow for them to send out too many of their residents for fellowship matches. Stanford sends some people over the years to MGH for cards, but as has been noted here, before they are usually either graduates of Harvard med school or they are the MD-PhD types. Wash U seems to recruit some midwest-lifers, and so whetehr it is because the program itself or the people in it, most people do their fellowships in the midwest. But I would agree that both are probably top 10-12 type programs if you're interested in cards. It would be good just to stay at either place for a cards fellowship, and I think NYU falls into that same group. And UW is a really underrated program too out west obviously. They too have a tendency of having people stay for fellowships, but they get some really nice outside matches too. UW has a tremendous amount of funding. And Hutch for onc I think has the second or third most NIH dollars for research behind Dana Farber and MD Anderson. When you add UW internal medicine program to Hutch, you're blown away by the amount of research dollars they get.
