**Official 2024 Ortho PASS/Interviews/Match/Non-Match**

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9/15: (email) Saint Louis University: October 10, 11, 19, 20. Socials the evening before each date.
 
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If anyone that has an interview to University of Houston that is in session 1 and would be willing to switch to session 2 please message me 🙂
 
Dentalfunguy said:
If anyone that has an interview to University of Houston that is in session 1 and would be willing to switch to session 2 please message me 🙂
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You’re trying to make it to the LSU interview too right?
 
For those interviewing with Tennessee, did you receive the follow up email after accepting the invite or has that not been sent out yet?
 
1. 8/22 (email) Seton Hill, interview 9/21 and 9/22 in-person
2. 8/24 (email) Iowa, interview 9/22 in-person
3. 8/24 (email) Oklahoma, interview 10/13 or 10/20 with social the night before
4. 8/25 (email) Illinois, interview 10/11 , 10/12, and 10/13, in person
5. 8/28 (email) Colorado, interview 9/28, 9/29, and 10/2 in person
6. 8/30 (email) Indiana, interview 10/12, 10/13 in person
7. 9/5 (email): University of Texas at Houston, 10/19, 10/20 (with mandatory social night before) in-person
8. 9/7 (email) University of Florida, 10/9 or 10/10 (in person), social night before
9. 9/7 (email) LSU, 10/19 or 10/20 in person with social on 10/19 evening
10. 9/8 (email) Tufts, 9/26, 9/27, 9/28 with a social (details to follow)
11. 9/8 (phone call) University of Michigan, October 9th or 16th with a social the day before
12. 9/8 (email) University of Tennessee 10/13 or 10/16 (in person) with social the night before
13. 9/9 (email) University of Washington, Oct 9th with a social the night before
14. 9/12 (email) Ohio State University, 10/9 or 10/10
15. 9/12 (email) OHSU, 10/20 or 10/23 social night before
16. 9/12 (phone call) Texas A&M 10/17, 10/18 or 10/19 in-person
17. 9/12 (email) Boston University, 10/30 with a social the day before
18. 9/12 (email) Texas San Antonio 10/3 and 10/4 in person with social on 10/3
19. 9/12 (email) AT Still - 10/16 or 10/17 interview
20. 9/12 (email) UMKC, 10/16 in person w/ social the night before
21. 9/13 (call and email) Loma Linda Interview 10/09 and 10/10
22. 9/14 (email) University of British Columbia, interview 10/28 online
23. 9/15: (email) University of Buffalo, interview 10/13 and 10/16
24. 9/15: (email) Saint Louis University, interview October 10, 11, 19, 20 with socials the evening before each
 
If anyone is interviewing at Illinois on Thursday or Friday and needs to switch to Wednesday, let me know👍🏼
 
Did you guys send your undergrad transcripts and letters of recommendation to NOVA separate from PASS?
 
ToothDoc123 said:
Did you guys send your undergrad transcripts and letters of recommendation to NOVA separate from PASS?
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No, I emailed the contact person, he said that all the required documents are transferred via PASS, it just takes a few days for their portal to update.
 
veryhappylabrador said:
No, I emailed the contact person, he said that all the required documents are transferred via PASS, it just takes a few days for their portal to update.
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I received an email from him today saying that I have not submitted all supplemental materials. Do you know how to submit the “Ortho & Dentofacial Orthopedic Service Application”? My GRE score is still missing too even though I sent it months ago
 
ToothDoc123 said:
I received an email from him today saying that I have not submitted all supplemental materials. Do you know how to submit the “Ortho & Dentofacial Orthopedic Service Application”? My GRE score is still missing too even though I sent it months ago
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I received this email too even though I emailed him directly and he said my application was complete and under review. (even though in the supplemental it says all my materials are missing lol) I think it was an automatic email
 
Faefly said:
same boat! You are not alone!
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Last year I didn’t get any. Don’t worry, it doesn’t mean anything. A friend of mine got accepted into a program, declined for personal reasons, and did several interviews On the next year, he applied again, and got nothing ! So, relax, it will come!
 
rctdoc99 said:
Hahaha!!
U too?? I thought I was the only one!
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I would not think twice if they accepted federal/private loans. But it looks like their reputation is not good, and I wonder if it’s because they accept a lot of candidates. I don’t believe it’s related to the quality of education.
 
BarbaraOrtho said:
I would not think twice if they accepted federal/private loans. But it looks like their reputation is not good, and I wonder if it’s because they accept a lot of candidates. I don’t believe it’s related to the quality of education.
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💯 agree
 
1. 8/22 (email) Seton Hill, interview 9/21 and 9/22 in-person
2. 8/24 (email) Iowa, interview 9/22 in-person
3. 8/24 (email) Oklahoma, interview 10/13 or 10/20 with social the night before
4. 8/25 (email) Illinois, interview 10/11 , 10/12, and 10/13, in person
5. 8/28 (email) Colorado, interview 9/28, 9/29, and 10/2 in person
6. 8/30 (email) Indiana, interview 10/12, 10/13 in person
7. 9/5 (email): University of Texas at Houston, 10/19, 10/20 (with mandatory social night before) in-person
8. 9/7 (email) University of Florida, 10/9 or 10/10 (in person), social night before
9. 9/7 (email) LSU, 10/19 or 10/20 in person with social on 10/19 evening
10. 9/8 (email) Tufts, 9/26, 9/27, 9/28 with a social (details to follow)
11. 9/8 (phone call) University of Michigan, October 9th or 16th with a social the day before
12. 9/8 (email) University of Tennessee 10/13 or 10/16 (in person) with social the night before
13. 9/9 (email) University of Washington, Oct 9th with a social the night before
14. 9/12 (email) Ohio State University, 10/9 or 10/10
15. 9/12 (email) OHSU, 10/20 or 10/23 social night before
16. 9/12 (phone call) Texas A&M 10/17, 10/18 or 10/19 in-person
17. 9/12 (email) Boston University, 10/30 with a social the day before
18. 9/12 (email) Texas San Antonio 10/3 and 10/4 in person with social on 10/3
19. 9/12 (email) AT Still - 10/16 or 10/17 interview
20. 9/12 (email) UMKC, 10/16 in person w/ social the night before
21. 9/13 (call and email) Loma Linda Interview 10/09 and 10/10
22. 9/14 (email) University of British Columbia, interview 10/28 online
23. 9/15: (email) University of Buffalo, interview 10/13 and 10/16
24. 9/15: (email) Saint Louis University, interview October 10, 11, 19, 20 with socials the evening before each
25. 9/17: (email) CTOR Academy- Interview: October 6th, Social on the 5th.
 
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BarbaraOrtho said:
I would not think twice if they accepted federal/private loans. But it looks like their reputation is not good, and I wonder if it’s because they accept a lot of candidates. I don’t believe it’s related to the quality of education.
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How can you have a good education if there is 45 spots? 3 years means 135 spots
 
Smileartist2024 said:
How can you have a good education if there is 45 spots? 3 years means 135 spots
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it is not likely I think , here is my previous thoughts about that
lifenew said:
Does GSO has enough patients and dental units for 45 residents, it seems to me that the patients load in not enough as 1st year resident involve in 30 cases only!
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30 patients are not enough to get the anticipated knowledge and experience specially for someone paid 150k a year as tuition only, I think 70 patients is the acceptable minimum
moreover, most ortho programs have a number of dental units that match or exceed the number of residents, so do they have enough dental units for 135 residents
the residents to faculty ratio is very important too
 
lifenew said:
it is not likely I think , here is my previous thoughts about that

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30 patients are not enough to get the anticipated knowledge and experience specially for someone paid 150k a year as tuition only, I think 70 patients is the acceptable minimum
moreover, most ortho programs have a number of dental units that match or exceed the number of residents, so do they have enough dental units for 135 residents
the residents to faculty ratio is very important too
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I wish we have any gso resident that can shade a light about the education/training/cases they get
 
1. 8/22 (email) Seton Hill, interview 9/21 and 9/22 in-person
2. 8/24 (email) Iowa, interview 9/22 in-person
3. 8/24 (email) Oklahoma, interview 10/13 or 10/20 with social the night before
4. 8/25 (email) Illinois, interview 10/11 , 10/12, and 10/13, in person
5. 8/28 (email) Colorado, interview 9/28, 9/29, and 10/2 in person
6. 8/30 (email) Indiana, interview 10/12, 10/13 in person
7. 9/5 (email): University of Texas at Houston, 10/19, 10/20 (with mandatory social night before) in-person
8. 9/7 (email) University of Florida, 10/9 or 10/10 (in person), social night before
9. 9/7 (email) LSU, 10/19 or 10/20 in person with social on 10/19 evening
10. 9/8 (email) Tufts, 9/26, 9/27, 9/28 with a social (details to follow)
11. 9/8 (phone call) University of Michigan, October 9th or 16th with a social the day before
12. 9/8 (email) University of Tennessee 10/13 or 10/16 (in person) with social the night before
13. 9/9 (email) University of Washington, Oct 9th with a social the night before
14. 9/12 (email) Ohio State University, 10/9 or 10/10
15. 9/12 (email) OHSU, 10/20 or 10/23 social night before
16. 9/12 (phone call) Texas A&M 10/17, 10/18 or 10/19 in-person
17. 9/12 (email) Boston University, 10/30 with a social the day before
18. 9/12 (email) Texas San Antonio 10/3 and 10/4 in person with social on 10/3
19. 9/12 (email) AT Still - 10/16 or 10/17 interview
20. 9/12 (email) UMKC, 10/16 in person w/ social the night before
21. 9/13 (call and email) Loma Linda Interview 10/09 and 10/10
22. 9/14 (email) University of British Columbia, interview 10/28 online
23. 9/15: (email) University of Buffalo, interview 10/13 and 10/16
24. 9/15: (email) Saint Louis University, interview October 10, 11, 19, 20 with socials the evening before each
25. 9/17: (email) CTOR Academy- Interview: September 29th. & Social 28th, Interview: October 6th, Social on the 5th.
 
lifenew said:
it is not likely I think , here is my previous thoughts about that

View attachment 376821
30 patients are not enough to get the anticipated knowledge and experience specially for someone paid 150k a year as tuition only, I think 70 patients is the acceptable minimum
moreover, most ortho programs have a number of dental units that match or exceed the number of residents, so do they have enough dental units for 135 residents
the residents to faculty ratio
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lifenew said:
it is not likely I think , here is my previous thoughts about that

View attachment 376821
30 patients are not enough to get the anticipated knowledge and experience specially for someone paid 150k a year as tuition only, I think 70 patients is the acceptable minimum
moreover, most ortho programs have a number of dental units that match or exceed the number of residents, so do they have enough dental units for 135 residents
the residents to faculty ratio is very important too
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I think gaining experience is important after residency, no matter which school or program we choose. The problem with GSO is that they don't provide loans, so you need to have money or family support. This makes it tough for most students to apply. You also have to decide if you want to wait another year to reapply, take a chance on getting an invitation elsewhere, or become an orthodontist sooner and start working. It's all a matter of personal choice, and there's no clear answer on whether it's a good or bad program. Even programs that offer stipends are competitive mainly because of their cost and the stipend they provide not based on the quality of their program and education.
 
Fred13 said:
I think gaining experience is important after residency, no matter which school or program we choose. The problem with GSO is that they don't provide loans, so you need to have money or family support. This makes it tough for most students to apply. You also have to decide if you want to wait another year to reapply, take a chance on getting an invitation elsewhere, or become an orthodontist sooner and start working. It's all a matter of personal choice, and there's no clear answer on whether it's a good or bad program. Even programs that offer stipends are competitive mainly because of their cost and the stipend they provide not based on the quality of their program and education.
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You can't apply to private loans?
 
Fred13 said:
I think gaining experience is important after residency, no matter which school or program we choose. The problem with GSO is that they don't provide loans, so you need to have money or family support. This makes it tough for most students to apply. You also have to decide if you want to wait another year to reapply, take a chance on getting an invitation elsewhere, or become an orthodontist sooner and start working. It's all a matter of personal choice, and there's no clear answer on whether it's a good or bad program. Even programs that offer stipends are competitive mainly because of their cost and the stipend they provide not based on the quality of their program and education.
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yes if someone can manage the finance to get in GSO is better that staying lost an and undecided, experience could be acquired but all in all that makes it more costly.
I encountered one program (not ortho though) that does not accept loan and it is easier to get in as requirements, it felt weird somehow why they don't accept loans!
lately I found that this program has bad reputation and was on verge of bankruptcy that why banks will not fund applicants to such program.
I'm not saying this apply to GSO by any mean. but the idea of not accepting loans need to be thought about! or maybe there are more fine details to get the finance
 
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