**Official 2024 PERIO PASS/Interviews/Match/Non-Match**

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thesmilesurgeon said:
Do you have DDS/DMD? How tough is it to get in without a DDS? Any tips for the application will be much appreciated 🙂
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I'm in the same boat my friend 🙂 However, all I know is that there are some schools like boston and tufts who accept a good # of internationals (but the cost is $$$). Staying positive is key at this time 😀
 
Getting things started - please feel free to add if you know anything or have heard!

CONFIRMED:
Boston University - interview date 8/20


PENDING:
University of Washington
University of Michigan
University of Illinois at Chicago
UT San Antonio
University of Rochester
University of Colorado
Harvard University
University of Alabama at Birmingham
Marquette University
University of Nebraska
UT Houston
University of Southern California
University of Tennessee Health Science Center
Stony Brook University
Indiana University
Mayo Clinic
Oklahoma University
Nova Southeastern University
University of Pittsburgh
Oregon Health and Science University
Ohio State University
St. Louis University
University of Maryland
Rutgers University
Tufts University
Medical University of South Carolina
Loma Linda
UCLA
UCSF
VA in LA
VA in NY
Indianapolis VA
University of Connecticut
University of Florida
Dental College of Georgia at Augusta University
University of Kentucky
University of Louisville
Louisiana State University
University of Minnesota
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Columbia University
New York University
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill
Case Western Reserve University
University of Pennsylvania
Temple University
Texas A&M University
Virginia Commonwealth University
West Virginia University
University of Iowa
University of Detroit Mercy
University at Buffalo
 
ChemistryDentist said:
Getting things started - please feel free to add if you know anything or have heard!

CONFIRMED:
Boston University - interview date 8/20


PENDING:
University of Washington
University of Michigan
University of Illinois at Chicago
UT San Antonio
University of Rochester
University of Colorado
Harvard University
University of Alabama at Birmingham
Marquette University
University of Nebraska
UT Houston
University of Southern California
University of Tennessee Health Science Center
Stony Brook University
Indiana University
Mayo Clinic
Oklahoma University
Nova Southeastern University
University of Pittsburgh
Oregon Health and Science University
Ohio State University
St. Louis University
University of Maryland
Rutgers University
Tufts University
Medical University of South Carolina
Loma Linda
UCLA
UCSF
VA in LA
VA in NY
Indianapolis VA
University of Connecticut
University of Florida
Dental College of Georgia at Augusta University
University of Kentucky
University of Louisville
Louisiana State University
University of Minnesota
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Columbia University
New York University
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill
Case Western Reserve University
University of Pennsylvania
Temple University
Texas A&M University
Virginia Commonwealth University
West Virginia University
University of Iowa
University of Detroit Mercy
University at Buffalo
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Congrats! Is this huge list for caapid application or pass?
 
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When can we expect to hear from other schools?
Is it usually after the Aug 1 deadline?
 
dentinopen said:
Really? How so?
Who told you?
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Iowa: not enough faculty.
Mn: unorganized, unfriendly, but so many patients.
The program director just graduated in 2016 and 2 residents have been resigned during the last three years. The other residents just want to finish and run away
 
merag.rm9000 said:
Iowa: not enough faculty.
Mn: unorganized, unfriendly, but so many patients.
The program director just graduated in 2016 and 2 residents have been resigned during the last three years. The other residents just want to finish and run away
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No way!
This is Minnesota?
 
What is a good number of schools to apply to have a decent shot of matching?
 
dentinopen said:
What is a good number of schools to apply to have a decent shot of matching?
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Last year I applied to 19 schools and received 11 interview invites. There were a couple others on last years thread that were in a similar situation as me, but also others that got 0 invites. If you have a decent application and apply to 10-15 programs you should be hearing back from a few, although no guarantees. More programs is always better than less. Every year gets more and more competitive, cant really speak on behalf of this cycle...
 
FGGCTG said:
Last year I applied to 19 schools and received 11 interview invites. There were a couple others on last years thread that were in a similar situation as me, but also others that got 0 invites. If you have a decent application and apply to 10-15 programs you should be hearing back from a few, although no guarantees. More programs is always better than less. Every year gets more and more competitive, cant really speak on behalf of this cycle...
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11 invites are awesome! Any advice for a foreign-trained dentist without DDS applying for perio residency? Is it possible for us to secure admission without DDS/DMD?
 
Looking out a little, what are anticipated incomes for periodontists immediately out of residency? 3 years out? 10 years? I’ve seen various numbers, but don’t know which is most correct. Student Loan Planner references $80k more per year on average versus general.…
 
DiscoverWeakly said:
Looking out a little, what are anticipated incomes for periodontists immediately out of residency? 3 years out? 10 years? I’ve seen various numbers, but don’t know which is most correct. Student Loan Planner references $80k more per year on average versus general.…
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This is a question I’ve been researching a lot since I worked as a GP, was making $300k, and wanted to make sure my time has some return on investment doing Perio.

The answer is not black and white but depends:

1) your personality- are u a content type of person or a go getter? As a past GP, I’ve seen GP’s making $120k- over $600k. How far do you want to broaden your skill set and how courageous are you to implement them?

2) type of practice - owner vs associate vs traveling perio

3) location of practice and referral base (very important)


Don’t just do it for the money. You will most likely earn more than a GP, working 4 days per week. How much more is dependent on you.

Hope that makes sense.
Goodluck!
 
DiscoverWeakly said:
Looking out a little, what are anticipated incomes for periodontists immediately out of residency? 3 years out? 10 years? I’ve seen various numbers, but don’t know which is most correct. Student Loan Planner references $80k more per year on average versus general.…
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my recent grad friends are making 100-150k/yr. all 1-2 yrs out.

you need to prove to your GP referrals you are worth referring to. you will spend a lot of time twiddling your thumbs first few years out likely.

or go to the boonies/corps and be immediately slammed with pts
 
thesmilesurgeon said:
11 invites are awesome! Any advice for a foreign-trained dentist without DDS applying for perio residency? Is it possible for us to secure admission without DDS/DMD?
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I have a DDS from the states so can’t speak much on that, although I know there are residents with BDS degrees so I know it’s possible. Not sure if schools favour DDS over BDS or vise versa. I know there are a few programs that only take American citizens. Make sure you double check before applying. Best of luck!
 
FGGCTG said:
I have a DDS from the states so can’t speak much on that, although I know there are residents with BDS degrees so I know it’s possible. Not sure if schools favour DDS over BDS or vise versa. I know there are a few programs that only take American citizens. Make sure you double check before applying. Best of luck!
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Are u aware if Texas programs and Washington prefer people with GRE/ADAT?
 
Hi!
How important is ADAT/GRE for grad Perio applications?
 
dentinopen said:
This is a question I’ve been researching a lot since I worked as a GP, was making $300k, and wanted to make sure my time has some return on investment doing Perio.

The answer is not black and white but depends:

1) your personality- are u a content type of person or a go getter? As a past GP, I’ve seen GP’s making $120k- over $600k. How far do you want to broaden your skill set and how courageous are you to implement them?

2) type of practice - owner vs associate vs traveling perio

3) location of practice and referral base (very important)


Don’t just do it for the money. You will most likely earn more than a GP, working 4 days per week. How much more is dependent on you.

Hope that makes sense.
Goodluck!
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Appreciate the response!

I very much agree that going into this specialty can‘t be exclusively a money move, but I am having last minute reservations on if it’s worthwhile… Opportunity cost in doing such a program, especially for someone like yourself who was making $300k, is quite literally a Million dollars. Then combine that with PerioDont’s recent grad friends only making 100-150k a year or two out, you’re looking at 15+ years to make up that gap, no?

For as interesting as the procedures are to complete and help patients, it seems difficult to justify :/

But then again, maybe this is last minute nerves and excuses before submitting applications
 
I can confirm that an Iowa Interview invitation was sent on 07/06 for 08/04 and a Chicago interview was sent on 07/13 for 08/07.
 
CONFIRMED:
Boston University - interview date 8/20
University of Iowa - interview date 8/04
UIC - interview date 8/07
Ohio State University - interview date 8/11
University of Washington - interview date 8/11


PENDING:
University of Michigan
UT San Antonio
University of Rochester
University of Colorado
Harvard University
University of Alabama at Birmingham
Marquette University
University of Nebraska
UT Houston
University of Southern California
University of Tennessee Health Science Center
Stony Brook University
Indiana University
Mayo Clinic
Oklahoma University
Nova Southeastern University
University of Pittsburgh
Oregon Health and Science University
St. Louis University
University of Maryland
Rutgers University
Tufts University
Medical University of South Carolina
Loma Linda
UCLA
UCSF
VA in LA
VA in NY
Indianapolis VA
University of Connecticut
University of Florida
Dental College of Georgia at Augusta University
University of Kentucky
University of Louisville
Louisiana State University
University of Minnesota
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Columbia University
New York University
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill
Case Western Reserve University
University of Pennsylvania
Temple University
Texas A&M University
Virginia Commonwealth University
West Virginia University
University of Detroit Mercy
University at Buffalo
 
Any information on University of Florida or University of Tennessee?
 
ThePeriodontium said:
CONFIRMED:
Boston University - interview date 8/20
University of Iowa - interview date 8/04
UIC - interview date 8/07
Ohio State University - interview date 8/11
University of Washington - interview date 8/11


PENDING:
University of Michigan
UT San Antonio
University of Rochester
University of Colorado
Harvard University
University of Alabama at Birmingham
Marquette University
University of Nebraska
UT Houston
University of Southern California
University of Tennessee Health Science Center
Stony Brook University
Indiana University
Mayo Clinic
Oklahoma University
Nova Southeastern University
University of Pittsburgh
Oregon Health and Science University
St. Louis University
University of Maryland
Rutgers University
Tufts University
Medical University of South Carolina
Loma Linda
UCLA
UCSF
VA in LA
VA in NY
Indianapolis VA
University of Connecticut
University of Florida
Dental College of Georgia at Augusta University
University of Kentucky
University of Louisville
Louisiana State University
University of Minnesota
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Columbia University
New York University
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill
Case Western Reserve University
University of Pennsylvania
Temple University
Texas A&M University
Virginia Commonwealth University
West Virginia University
University of Detroit Mercy
University at Buffalo
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by the way, i heard that Indianapolis VA and Mayo clinic are not taking residents this year
 
ThePeriodontium said:
CONFIRMED:
Boston University - interview date 8/20
University of Iowa - interview date 8/04
UIC - interview date 8/07
Ohio State University - interview date 8/11
University of Washington - interview date 8/11


PENDING:
University of Michigan
UT San Antonio
University of Rochester
University of Colorado
Harvard University
University of Alabama at Birmingham
Marquette University
University of Nebraska
UT Houston
University of Southern California
University of Tennessee Health Science Center
Stony Brook University
Indiana University
Mayo Clinic
Oklahoma University
Nova Southeastern University
University of Pittsburgh
Oregon Health and Science University
St. Louis University
University of Maryland
Rutgers University
Tufts University
Medical University of South Carolina
Loma Linda
UCLA
UCSF
VA in LA
VA in NY
Indianapolis VA
University of Connecticut
University of Florida
Dental College of Georgia at Augusta University
University of Kentucky
University of Louisville
Louisiana State University
University of Minnesota
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Columbia University
New York University
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill
Case Western Reserve University
University of Pennsylvania
Temple University
Texas A&M University
Virginia Commonwealth University
West Virginia University
University of Detroit Mercy
University at Buffalo
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Ohio has another interview date on August 18th.
 
CONFIRMED:
Boston University - interview date 8/20
University of Iowa - interview date 8/04
UIC - interview date 8/07
Ohio State University - interview date 8/11 AND 8/18
University of Washington - interview date 8/11


PENDING:
University of Michigan
UT San Antonio
University of Rochester
University of Colorado
Harvard University
University of Alabama at Birmingham
Marquette University
University of Nebraska
UT Houston
University of Southern California
University of Tennessee Health Science Center
Stony Brook University
Indiana University
Mayo Clinic
Oklahoma University
Nova Southeastern University
University of Pittsburgh
Oregon Health and Science University
St. Louis University
University of Maryland
Rutgers University
Tufts University
Medical University of South Carolina
Loma Linda
UCLA
UCSF
VA in LA
VA in NY
Indianapolis VA
University of Connecticut
University of Florida
Dental College of Georgia at Augusta University
University of Kentucky
University of Louisville
Louisiana State University
University of Minnesota
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Columbia University
New York University
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill
Case Western Reserve University
University of Pennsylvania
Temple University
Texas A&M University
Virginia Commonwealth University
West Virginia University
University of Detroit Mercy
University at Buffalo
 
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