Official Doctor Who WW Redux Game Thread

[wolfspeaker]

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Just because you have lost your own ability does not mean that you may then direct the actions of others who retain their abilities.

@WhtsThFrequency - it would be good if you could confirm that you used your ability last night.

I ASKED, I did not demand. (I said "personally, I'd rather you look into Swings"). And gave you a very compelling reason as to why. Swings may come back as nonhuman when sonic'd. Therefore the only means of confirming villager status is to investigate her. I can be sonic'd.
If you weren't online at all after 7:30pm(cst) last night, then that answers that.

 

[wolfspeaker]

Lynch Swings Samoa is dead and I was looked into last night, that leaves you. (or dyachei, but I'll give her another day)

 

[that redhead]

Never said you demanded.
Told you I wasn't online at that time.
Am still accused of "ruining things" and being a wolf because of it.
I did my best not to get my hackles up when you PMed me asking me for all of my information. But getting pissed at me is not the way to go about retaining my cooperation.


I'm focused on WTF now. Because her role description includes the phrase "allegiance is complicated" and she has a nightly role ability. Will wait for her to make an appearance in the thread.

 

[that redhead]

*an ever other night role ability.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

I did use it (the looking, not the moving groups). I looked at the role of Rory. I have ls meetings until afternoon, but will be back in as soon as I can.

 

[wolfspeaker]

Never said you demanded.
Told you I wasn't online at that time.
Am still accused of "ruining things" and being a wolf because of it.
I did my best not to get my hackles up when you PMed me asking me for all of my information. But getting pissed at me is not the way to go about retaining my cooperation.


I'm focused on WTF now. Because her role description includes the phrase "allegiance is complicated" and she has a nightly role ability. Will wait for her to make an appearance in the thread.

Wait, I thought you said I was looked into last night? Or is this information back from before?

I'm not pissed. You are reading between the lines. When I said maybe you and swings were working together as wolves, that was BEFORE you told me you weren't online. (we were typing at the same time, look at the time stamps) Now that I know that, it still sucks, but makes more sense.

And yes, I did ask you to share your results from past nights. Both of the people that had most of the information train going, were dead. (Lupin and FH) We needed to get something going again. Someone had to make the first move, so I just did it.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Hedgie also proved her ability to me last night.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

I'm focused on WTF now. Because her role description includes the phrase "allegiance is complicated" and she has a nightly role ability. Will wait for her to make an appearance in the thread.

In b4 s***storm

 

[that redhead]

I did use it (the looking, not the moving groups). I looked at the role of Rory. I have ls meetings until afternoon, but will be back in as soon as I can.

Okay.

Wait, I thought you said I was looked into last night? Or is this information back from before?

You were looked into last night; information on WTF was from before.

 

[wolfspeaker]

I will say this: "allegiance is complicated" could be because her character shot someone important. BUT, take note that she was being controlled at the time and didn't really have much of a choice. That's the story line, not saying she isn't a convert.

 

[that redhead]

Jdh said four wolves before wildcats lynch, meaning three going into N8. Dyachei could use her ability at that time (screwdriver results) so I find her unlikely. That leaves SOV, human on N5 being the only info we have. We think lupin was converted N6 or 7 based on PMs but unconfirmed.

Lynch SOV

 

[Samoa]

******
I swear, one of my friends must secretly write comedy screenplays. That is the only plausible explanation for how uncannily like my own life some of things I see in movies and on TV are.
******

 

[that redhead]

Also, no deaths N3, 4, 5 or 6. N3 write up suggests protection or block, so three potential converts (one lupin).

 

[that redhead]

More thoughts: when's the latest info on Allie? Also, are we counting pair PMing as retaining role ability or no? If not, we do need to consider cyndia although I don't feel as suspicious of her as Allie and SOV.

 

[Frozenshades]

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Yikes. That was ridiculous to keep track of with the maintenance going on the site and then I was busy last night/this morning studying for the test I just took.

Even in death, I'll continue to complain!

Go villagers!
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[Escalla]

Official Lynch Tally

WS 1 - dyachei
dyachei 1 - FFM
swings 2 - SOV, WS
SOV 1 - TRH

5/13 votes

Deadline 8 PM EST

 

[wolfspeaker]

Jdh said four wolves before wildcats lynch, meaning three going into N8. Dyachei could use her ability at that time (screwdriver results) so I find her unlikely. That leaves SOV, human on N5 being the only info we have. We think lupin was converted N6 or 7 based on PMs but unconfirmed.

Lynch SOV

What about swings? Why are you leaving her out?

 

[wolfspeaker]

More thoughts: when's the latest info on Allie? Also, are we counting pair PMing as retaining role ability or no? If not, we do need to consider cyndia although I don't feel as suspicious of her as Allie and SOV.

I DO think wolves get to retain PMing abilities with their partners. That would make it far too obvious in catching a wolf(and frankly, not quite fair to the wolves)

 

[Flim Flam Man]

So everyone is just going to let dyachei slide with tracking the one item that everyone knew about?

I find her to be a much better player than that. That 'mistake' is just way too convenient. We are going to risk that a wolf gets an item or someone who may be communicating with dyachei is too loose with info if they get an item?

 

[wolfspeaker]

More thoughts: when's the latest info on Allie? Also, are we counting pair PMing as retaining role ability or no? If not, we do need to consider cyndia although I don't feel as suspicious of her as Allie and SOV.

N5 her role name only was investigated.

 

[wolfspeaker]

So everyone is just going to let dyachei slide with tracking the one item that everyone knew about?

I find her to be a much better player than that. That 'mistake' is just way too convenient. We are going to risk that a wolf gets an item or someone who may be communicating with dyachei is too loose with info if they get an item?

I'm willing to let it go one night. Tomorrow, if it happens again, I'm lynching her.

The fact that swings knew she was on the short list last night and she still hasn't PM'd me at all, makes me even more suspicious. I'm lynching her today.

 

[cuitlamiztli]

Heading into surgery, not sure how long this is going to take.

Lynch alors.

 

[AlorsOnDanse]

😍😍😍

I for one, cannot wait until tomorrow afternoon.......

Gasping

 

[wolfspeaker]

TRH, you said Cyndia's ability still existed as of "recently". You didn't say how recently.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

why would she even put in a request for the psychic paper? why wouldn't she automatically track the screwdriver each time?

C'mon people. Good wolves do not often make mistakes. We need to at least follow this through. Instead people want to willy nilly lynch someone else?

If someone with a killing role kills the wrong person, do they often make it through the next lynch? Dyachei made a mistake at a crucial opportunity to clear herself. IRL stuff happens, etc, but she was around when all this was discussed openly on the thread, right people? Allie even said at least twice she had the paper. Dyachei had to see that at least once.

 

[wolfspeaker]

why would she even put in a request for the psychic paper? why wouldn't she automatically track the screwdriver each time?

C'mon people. Good wolves do not often make mistakes. We need to at least follow this through. Instead people want to willy nilly lynch someone else?

If someone with a killing role kills the wrong person, do they often make it through the next lynch? Dyachei made a mistake at a crucial opportunity to clear herself. IRL stuff happens, etc, but she was around when all this was discussed openly on the thread, right people? Allie even said at least twice she had the paper. Dyachei had to see that at least once.

Right now, I'm equally suspicious of Swings and Dyachei. Dyachei can prove her ability overnight. Swings cannot. I am not "willy nilly" voting for swings.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

Right now, I'm equally suspicious of Swings and Dyachei. Dyachei can prove her ability overnight. Swings cannot. I am not "willy nilly" voting for swings.

You are leaving a chance that dyachei will have an out tomorrow. And I am not speaking directly to you, so don't get defensive. I think everyone is sick of it.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Gonna need a translation on that last part 😛

Wow. That is some horrible autocorrect nightmare. Have no idea what I was trying to,say.

The reason I am letting dyachei slide is she wold have a tough choice tomorrow...
1- claim she screwed up again.
2- a wolf gets an item and she supposedly successfully tracks it. Then we can get a twofer. She is not the last wolf, so I can hold off a day.

Swings is completely under the radar with zero info it seems. A good candidate, we clean up that list and move forward.

 

[wolfspeaker]

You are leaving a chance that dyachei will have an out tomorrow. And I am not speaking directly to you, so don't get defensive. I think everyone is sick of it.

How will she have an out? The only way would be for there to now be 2 converts left instead of one(entirely possible) and BOTH Dyachei and the person holding the item be wolves. Possible, but I think a far stretch.

If we lynch swings today, dyachei could still prove her ability overnight.

If we lynch dyachei today, there is nothing that can prove swings is still a villager and thus we will lynch swings tomorrow.

I KNOW you weren't speaking only to me. You were speaking to everyone. I am part of that "everyone" group, so I explained why I am voting for swings. You included everyone, I gave my answer.

 

[wolfspeaker]

How will she have an out? The only way would be for there to now be 2 converts left instead of one(entirely possible) and BOTH Dyachei and the person holding the item be wolves. Possible, but I think a far stretch.

If we lynch swings today, dyachei could still prove her ability overnight.

If we lynch dyachei today, there is nothing that can prove swings is still a villager and thus we will lynch swings tomorrow.

I KNOW you weren't speaking only to me. You were speaking to everyone. I am part of that "everyone" group, so I explained why I am voting for swings. You included everyone, I gave my answer.

Woops, forgot about Cuit. So, potentially Cuit could have the screwdriver and Dyachei would "track it". Still a longshot.

 

[that redhead]

Cyndias ability is PMing, as far as I know. So it's as recent as today. But if we think that wouldn't be affected by conversion, she's a possibility.

Dyachei gave us screw drive results for n4- n8, meaning her ability was intact at that point. I find the paper thing really suspicious but that's what's holding me back.

Swings role abilities were confirmed last night by wtf, assuming her ability works the same way as that which caught lupin.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

Wow. That is some horrible autocorrect nightmare. Have no idea what I was trying to,say.

The reason I am letting dyachei slide is she wold have a tough choice tomorrow...
1- claim she screwed up again.
2- a wolf gets an item and she supposedly successfully tracks it. Then we can get a twofer. She is not the last wolf, so I can hold off a day.

Swings is completely under the radar with zero info it seems. A good candidate, we clean up that list and move forward.

How do you prove # 2 though?

 

[wolfspeaker]

Cyndias ability is PMing, as far as I know. So it's as recent as today. But if we think that wouldn't be affected by conversion, she's a possibility.

Dyachei gave us screw drive results for n4- n8, meaning her ability was intact at that point. I find the paper thing really suspicious but that's what's holding me back.

Swings role abilities were confirmed last night by wtf, assuming her ability works the same way as that which caught lupin.

When was this said?

Yesterday, you said Cyndias ability still existed. Was that just you know about her still being able to PM, or via investigation?

 

[wolfspeaker]

Cyndias ability is PMing, as far as I know. So it's as recent as today. But if we think that wouldn't be affected by conversion, she's a possibility.

Dyachei gave us screw drive results for n4- n8, meaning her ability was intact at that point. I find the paper thing really suspicious but that's what's holding me back.

Swings role abilities were confirmed last night by wtf, assuming her ability works the same way as that which caught lupin.

Wait a second. I thought WTF could find out information from the mods, like how a cyberman would seer as. So, how can WTF confirm swings' abilities?

 

[wolfspeaker]

Wait a second. I thought WTF could find out information from the mods, like how a cyberman would seer as. So, how can WTF confirm swings' abilities?

And you said MY abilities were looked into last night(in PM). Something ain't right.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Jdh said four wolves before wildcats lynch, meaning three going into N8. Dyachei could use her ability at that time (screwdriver results) so I find her unlikely. That leaves SOV, human on N5 being the only info we have. We think lupin was converted N6 or 7 based on PMs but unconfirmed.

How do you prove # 2 though?

lynch her tomorrow and find out then...

 

[StartingoverVet]

And you said MY abilities were looked into last night(in PM). Something ain't right.

right.

Why do we still trust TRH?

 

[that redhead]

You were looked into last night.
Wtf gained swings role info last night (which she said she did on thread)
Cyndia has not been investigated.

 

[that redhead]

What makes me untrustworthy? I've proven I still retain my role abilities continuously.

 

[that redhead]

I did use it (the looking, not the moving groups). I looked at the role of Rory. I have ls meetings until afternoon, but will be back in as soon as I can.

Here.

 

[StartingoverVet]

What makes me untrustworthy? I've proven I still retain my role abilities continuously.

Proven how? and recently?

 

[wolfspeaker]

Here.

Yeah, it said she looked at it. Not what the results were.

 

[wolfspeaker]

What makes me untrustworthy? I've proven I still retain my role abilities continuously.

You proved it when getting Lupin, but that's the last I know of. Everyone knows what my abilities are, I said so yesterday.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Yeah, it said she looked at it. Not what the results were.

BTW, when I read that I was kind of confused. How do you have time to say you looked at it, but not what they were?
Unless there was some reason not to post it on thread that I don't understand

 

[wolfspeaker]

I still find it very odd that you are still alive. I'm not accusing you of being a wolf. I just find it odd.

 

[that redhead]

Yeah, it said she looked at it. Not what the results were.

She pmed me the results after I asked her if she'd used her ability last night. I'm sure she will verify this.

Proven how? and recently?

WS should verify this one. Yes, proven recently.

 

[that redhead]

You proved it when getting Lupin, but that's the last I know of. Everyone knows what my abilities are, I said so yesterday.

The last you know of? Was someone else PMing me from your computer earlier?

 

[StartingoverVet]

You proved it when getting Lupin, but that's the last I know of. Everyone knows what my abilities are, I said so yesterday.

That doesn't prove much. Throwing a fellow wolf under the bus.......oldest ploy there is. When I am converted it is what I try to get done right away. Doing it repeatedly.... that is more convincing.... Investigation... even more so.

 

[wolfspeaker]

BTW, when I read that I was kind of confused. How do you have time to say you looked at it, but not what they were?
Unless there was some reason not to post it on thread that I don't understand

I have a tough time on my phone with SDN. Back when I could actually USE my phone for SDN it would take me forever to just write 1 sentence. Maybe WTF had time for that, but not to explain? I dunno. I'm not changing my vote until I hear from WTF. But if swings really does still have her ability, then something majorly stinks.

 

[that redhead]

I still find it very odd that you are still alive. I'm not accusing you of being a wolf. I just find it odd.

I dont really know why it's odd. My character is a BFD and my continued presence in the game reflects that.