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What?See why we never needed a seer for the rest of the game?
Ok of we assume devyn is a concert deduction would give us SOV as an original wolf probably as he would have avoided initial seering. This would also make him more likely to be an alpha wolf. So needs to go now.
They get a kill.
Which leaves me, LIS and FH (probably a villager) or nohika who is frosty.
We lynch devyn and that should game.
You have been wrong about a lot unfortunately.I was't wrong about you
Are you drunk or just posting from your phone?
You can lynch me, but that essentially gives the game to the wolves which is what they are counting on....
You lynch a villager today (me) then they get a kill tonight - game over... that is it....
There are 4 permanent players left and 1 temporary.... which means after today's lynch assuming there are 2 wolves which I think is a very good possibility that then tonight it will be their game - they will win.....
This is not an information finding lynch anymore - this is end game.... this is it.... so I would not recommend lynching me if we want to win this game for the villagers.
What?
Where do you get that from?
I guarantee you if I was an unseerable wolf, I would have run for mayor. It is my dream.
You have been wrong about a lot unfortunately.
Been sober for 5.5 years, so posting from my phone.
You're going to die but SOV goes first. We don't need you.
Even weaker.
Not so wordy when you aren't throwing me under the bus because of a ******ed PM that was useful in getting some of theory gullible to lynch me.
Still want to know why FH unlynched Devyn.
i'm busy with my wife now..
You lynched yourself buster. You pushed too hard for a lynch that made little sense, and you basically tried to lie and frame devyn.
don't know if she is guilty or not, but your play left a lot to be desired.
and you wanted to lynch dvmd when you thought she was innocent.
and why the hell hide that you are a protector when you can protect yourself. absolutely no risk in telling us that. it would have made that whole attack thing so much more understandable.
And then when it is 50/50 based on an investigation you come after me?
on some 100% wrong wild-ass theory about an "alpha-wolf".
If you weren't already dead I would be sure you were a wolf.
bring back orca or packen next time.
this guy has lost the plot.
I am headed to bed... lynch deadline is 8 AM tomorrow...... I will check back in before deadline....
I am not keen on jdh's theories since I know he is wrong about me and was was wrong about DVM (evidenced by death). He still does not seem to get the fact that if we lynch the wrong person this game is over.... and we lose.... not cool.....
I am not sure whether SOV is a wolf or not - maybe I am being played big time.... it is very possible - it has happened in the past..... one particular game LIS pulled the wool over my eyes and I was none too happy about it.... but so far he has been more forthcoming then jdh ever was..... and he could have easily had me lynched multiple times by now - so that makes me think he is not a wolf
I know I am not a wolf.... and I want a villager win... the fact that Nohika is throwing out false investigation results means that she is definitely not playing for the villagers or the item has been fecked with in some way....
so for now....
lynch Nohika
I am gonna apologize for the emotional reaction... I want to win and I am getting frustrated.
JDH- Please try to listen to the following temporarily suspending your certainty that I am a wolf and THEN double check if maybe you could be giving away the game here.
Way back when ..... I told you I had santa's list. I asked if you thought I should investigate devyn and you agreed.
That investigation was blocked with the rudolph flashing nose thing..
IF i was really this wolf you (falsely) believe I am
1- why would I bother actually investigating someone I knew was a seer.
2- if you believe i had a reason, why would I do it twice.
a - if I wanted devyn dead or suspicious at that point... i didn't have to do anything.. the investigation being blocked was suspicious. I was the one who figured out it must have been FFM...
b - if I wanted devyn dead I wouldn't have investigated her a second time and cleared her.
c - if I wanted to convert devyn, i would never have thrown suspicion on her the first time.
d- if devyn was already a wolf, I would have just lied and said that devyn was cleared.
There is no possible scenario, where me doing what ACTUALLY happened can make any sense whatsoever with me being this wolf you are assuming. NONE.
It just doesn't make sense logicially because it isn't true. Look, when I am a wolf, I am pretty good wolf, and I wouldn't make such a bizarre error. I have been known to make some grand schemes but not that has no possible way of benefitting me in the end.
Devyn has been under suspicion ever since then, and my clearing her put me under suspicion as well.
Can I logically show how I couldn;t have been converted? No. of course not. But your crazy theory depends on me being an original and alpha wolf, and that is not possible.
I am telling you, you are wrong. Please go rethink it.... and then try to look back at my actions as if maybe you were wrong, and you will see I have done everything i can as a normal villager. I have no powers, i have not been inconsistent... just a little frustrated at you and LIS at the end here.
Lynching me throws away the game when you are wrong. Think about that.
Picking among the 50/50 shot gives us a chance to win.
That's it.
Hopefully you can work it out on your own now.
Peace out.
SOV
Why the waffle?
Sorry for disappearing. I literally used the last couple percent of my phone's battery to send the message I did, then I had to go transport my siblings and I just now got home.
I don't care what devyn says. Devyn is guilty. Devyn is a CONVERT. I get that the wolves have been doing this "lol, throw someone under the bus at the end!". I do. I've also been the victim of that before.
I am not lying. I lost the list unfortunately.
It's frustrating that based on previous endgame, no one believes a late-game investigation anymore.
The only reason I'm really "high" on any lists is because I was revived and have stayed so. The number of games where the revived has actually came back as a wolf is VERY SMALL. I remembered this being argued a game or two back.
I'm not a wolf. I'm a villager, who was curious enough about devyn to investigate her and she came back as converted. My vote stands.
Sorry, the way you tossed me so summarily and quickly under the bus yesterday and over that stupid PM about devyn investigating every other night. Nah. You guys were grasping for whatever you could.
If I'm wrong I'll metaphorically eat my hat.
So instead of lynching a /sure/ wolf...we're lynching a possible one?
So instead of lynching a /sure/ wolf...we're lynching a possible one?
I think I am more hurt that anyone could conceive that I could play so badly as an alpha wolf, and also unseerable.
I think it's less likely a convert can convert, so I say go with the guy most likely to be one of the remaining wolves
just vote SOV and let's get on with this
Again this makes no sense. The person most likely to be a wolf is Nohika/Devyn. 100% has to be one of them.
I don't really understand your logic at all.
Wolves convert. This alpha nonsense is just that.
...so this late in the game, when I could happily let them lynch someone else (ie YOU)...I'm trying to get them to lynch devyn?
This makes no sense. If I was a wolf, I would've lynched you. Provided you're not a wolf, that is. Not devyn.
I didn't say it was you. I am trying to point out the logic of a known fact.
I am saying with certainty it is either you or devyn (well I guess it could be both ... but I wasn't saying that).
You are either telling the truth.. .Devyn is a wolf... or you are lying .. you are a wolf. either way it is a certainty that one of you is a wolf (and yeah I am leaning towards Devyn if that is relevant at all)
I wasn't worrying about which one people choose to lynch yet, as I seem to be the target.
I have just never seen a situation where people ignore a pretty straight forward choice to speculate widely on conjecture and innuendo.
Sorry, it's late and I'm studying. 😳 I think end-game investigations have been ruined by the wolves that have thrown villagers under the bus. Kind of wish I was one of them, but I'm not.
I wouldn't play this kind of end-game as a wolf. I don't. Throwing someone under the bus when everyone is so happy to lynch each other is not my style.
YOu are straight forward. It makes sense. Even if you were a wolf it is understandable.
But not the guys. If I had a role they were afraid of, perhaps it would make sense to go balls to the wall to eliminate me. But I don't.
And still. I believe JDH believes himself.
But LIS must have believed JDH would go after Devyn not me... So ....
I don't know.
My stream of consciousness is not getting me anywhere but more insomnia.
And then LIS was lynching me BEFORE results were out.. Why is that? Why should he want me dead over a real wolf?
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banging head into wall
On phone, lack ability for anything more creative than that.
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SMH.. .
So now that I have logic on my side you go back to your gut.
You would have done the same with someone pushing to lynch a seer (still don't agree it added any info) and ignoring inconvenient information and trying to mislead.
You are again ignoring what inconveniently doesn't fit with your theory.
Just remember "you were wrong"... and keep saying that over and over again tomorrow.
SMH.. .
So now that I have logic on my side you go back to your gut.
You would have done the same with someone pushing to lynch a seer (still don't agree it added any info) and ignoring inconvenient information and trying to mislead.
You are again ignoring what inconveniently doesn't fit with your theory.
Just remember "you were wrong"... and keep saying that over and over again tomorrow.
I was wrong.
Ok LIS, protect yourself tonight.
We'll have to see who is alive come the morning.
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you lynched the right guy for the wrong reasons....
So yes you were wrong.
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You might want to say whatever you have to say now. You're going to go back to the grave, I imagine. My biggest fear right now is the remaining wolf having the hat. 😛