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Good grief. Can you at least hold off until Devyn announces her investigation results from last night? It's one more bit of info to consider if she does get lynched.... 😛

The problem is that there is a very good chance devyn will not get back on tonight... And with the crazy 3AM lynch... I kind of doubt she will...

I am about to head to bed myself....
 
Can the UKers please be considered here? That is 3AM for us and I know devyn is studying for her exam tomorrow.

I'm considering that I want to get the schedule flipped around again so you guys don't tear each other's heads off. Get the votes in early and it will be done early and your problem is solved.
 
I'm considering that I want to get the schedule flipped around again so you guys don't tear each other's heads off. Get the votes in early and it will be done early and your problem is solved.

For some reason, flipping the schedule always ends up with the UKers having to be up super late and during finals.
 
Devyn, JDH and I have been in touch with FFM, and he was definitely protecting Devyn the night I investigated her, because I TOLD FFM to protect her. I didn't imagine that protecting someone would screw with the investigation.

FFM was not around when JDH was attacked, and he has confirmed that in PMs/on the thread.

Not sure where that leaves us.

I never said that FFM was around when JDH was attacked.

Good grief. I have been dodging, but the reason for dodging is long, long past.

The only mayoral role I had (and before DVMD goes crazy - it wasn't a nighttime (only) role, which is why I specifically chose those words earlier in the game) was the ability to transfer the role of a dead person onto a live person. It was a one-time ability, and I used it when it was revealed that Rudolph was a protector.

I moved Rudolph's protective role. I will not say when, or to whom, unless someone can convince me of a good reason to do so.

The night JDH claims to have been protected, it is entirely possible that he is telling the truth. I can't guarantee it, because I don't know that he was protected that night. But the ROLE was in the game at the time.

DVMD: I agree, regarding Devyn and bed. That was my point - I don't want to see Devyn lynched by plurality when we could at least - if she does get lynched - get one last point of info out of her.
 
I'm considering that I want to get the schedule flipped around again so you guys don't tear each other's heads off. Get the votes in early and it will be done early and your problem is solved.

Oh c'mon. Make up your mind. First you want lots of yelling and screaming; we deliver in spades and now you're griping.

DVMD, we're not appreciated here. Let's go have a drink.
 
I am confused to high hell right now....


haha

we needed that santa's list info didn't we??

ok

like I said the only way we some information, any information is a devyn lynch

lynch devyn


but this makes no damn sense.... we have lost the investigatory item and you want to lynch the other means of investigation.... are you out of your DAMN mind?!?! sorry but you are at the top of my suspicion list right now after that.....

lynch jdh
 
you know, complaining to the mod about deadlines doesn't really make the mod want to change them to help you. Just saying.

Sorry, I know I shouldn't be complaining, you are the mod.. I have modded enough to know it is annoying, I am just letting my tiredness get the better of me.
 
I never said that FFM was around when JDH was attacked.

Good grief. I have been dodging, but the reason for dodging is long, long past.

The only mayoral role I had (and before DVMD goes crazy - it wasn't a nighttime (only) role, which is why I specifically chose those words earlier in the game) was the ability to transfer the role of a dead person onto a live person. It was a one-time ability, and I used it when it was revealed that Rudolph was a protector.

I moved Rudolph's protective role. I will not say when, or to whom, unless someone can convince me of a good reason to do so.

The night JDH claims to have been protected, it is entirely possible that he is telling the truth. I can't guarantee it, because I don't know that he was protected that night. But the ROLE was in the game at the time.

DVMD: I agree, regarding Devyn and bed. That was my point - I don't want to see Devyn lynched by plurality when we could at least - if she does get lynched - get one last point of info out of her.

Now, I feel like we are getting somewhere... my next question is... why would someone protect jdh? (No offense, jdh) But, I don't know, he would not have been the first on my list to protect... is they player that got this ability still around to confirm?

No, I still don't think we should lynch devyn... not at all... It is a bad idea to get rid of our only possible source of investigation...
 
Now, I feel like we are getting somewhere... my next question is... why would someone protect jdh? (No offense, jdh) But, I don't know, he would not have been the first on my list to protect... is they player that got this ability still around to confirm?

No, I still don't think we should lynch devyn... not at all... It is a bad idea to get rid of our only possible source of investigation...

I'm not going to answer whether the player is still around or not, because I'd rather let the wolves wonder. 🙂 The downside, of course, is that if I gave the ability to a wolf...... Ugh.

As to lynching Devyn, I wasn't saying we should or shouldn't - just that if we are going to, we should at least wait until we hear what she got last night!!
 
Now, I feel like we are getting somewhere... my next question is... why would someone protect jdh? (No offense, jdh) But, I don't know, he would not have been the first on my list to protect... is they player that got this ability still around to confirm?
...

I was trying to lead people to think JDH or I was the seer, so it would make sense to protect one of us.. In fact, I assumed that we were being protected regularly since it was obvious which group the seer was in. I was hoping that was why there were some failed attacks, and that the wolves would move on to other targets...
 
What does everyone think about FTB being back?

I am trying to think of other things... but jdh wanting to get rid of seer so quickly really does stand out... I would still willing allow myself to be lynched if it would help at all.
 
I was trying to lead people to think JDH or I was the seer, so it would make sense to protect one of us.. In fact, I assumed that we were being protected regularly since it was obvious which group the seer was in. I was hoping that was why there were some failed attacks, and that the wolves would move on to other targets...

I would have picked orca to protect... I knew what her role was, she was open and honest to me in PMs.... I would have never even thought to use the role on any of you.... and Packen even stated that she didn't realize there was another way of investigating.
 
Ummm HELLO MCFLY?!?!? 😕

anyone out here? I don't feel like getting lynched just because you jackasses can't get your act together and get in here and vote.... I have to go to bed soon - it is after 1 AM and I need to rest so I can study all freaking day tomorrow before my exam at 6 PM....

so get the FECK in here.......😡
 
I'm here. Working, but I'm here.

Who all is left? Devyn, LIS, SOV, DVM, me, and...jdh?

I have a theory for why FTB (wolf) was brought back...if the lone wolf (ves?) can get us to lynch a villager, with FTB's number, they could win tonight. If she stays, anyways.
 
I'm not going to answer whether the player is still around or not, because I'd rather let the wolves wonder. 🙂 The downside, of course, is that if I gave the ability to a wolf...... Ugh.

I am going to explain why this does not make sense to me..

-It was a one time role... it has been used and is over, therefore if the player is still alive, they could confirm or deny this having actually occurred.

- Confirming this actually occurring is NOT a bad idea... then we will know jdh is telling the truth and that you are as well.

I don't see any good reason why keeping who was given this role a secret is a good thing... it was a one time and gone ability and it could help to clarify a few things... I think it is more odd that you think the wolves should need to be guessing on this one... the wolves would not care any more.
 
She is the ONLY thing we have left to do ANY investigations.. you are out of your damn mind.

There is a list.

Also I don't trust her investigations right now and they probably aren't that important any longer either. The only way to know for sure is to have her lynched.

At this point in the game I'm not as concerns who the wolves are but who the villagers are. If she's legit them SOV and DVMD are clean by my account. And with the three of us even with and rand lunches and appropriate use of protection items or skills and the villagers can win.

The only way to get the most info is to have her role and status announced on the open forum with a lynch.
 
I'm here. Working, but I'm here.

Who all is left? Devyn, LIS, SOV, DVM, me, and...jdh?

I have a theory for why FTB (wolf) was brought back...if the lone wolf (ves?) can get us to lynch a villager, with FTB's number, they could win tonight. If she stays, anyways.

Foxhunter is also still.... "playing" 🙄

If you can call it that....
 
There is a list.

Also I don't trust her investigations right now and they probably aren't that important any longer either. The only way to know for sure is to have her lynched.

At this point in the game I'm not as concerns who the wolves are but who the villagers are. If she's legit them SOV and DVMD are clean by my account. And with the three of us even with and rand lunches and appropriate use of protection items or skills and the villagers can win.

The only way to get the most info is to have her role and status announced on the open forum with a lynch.

Sorry, but I honestly think if we lynch a villager here that with FTB back in the game... the wolves could win this tonight... which is exactly what the wolves are looking to do...

Lynching someone right now just in an attempt to "clear" others is most likely (in my mind) going to end with a wolf victory.

I almost say that it is worth either lynching FTB to get rid of a known wolf number or to make LIS use his veto to keep the villager numbers up by one for one more night.
 
I am confused to high hell right now....





but this makes no damn sense.... we have lost the investigatory item and you want to lynch the other means of investigation.... are you out of your DAMN mind?!?! sorry but you are at the top of my suspicion list right now after that.....

lynch jdh

Where was it said the list was lost from the game?
 
Foxhunter is also still.... "playing" 🙄

If you can call it that....

So...FTB was a wolf, right? Right?

In that case I'm guessing there's two wolves out there and they brought back FTB...to try to win the game in lynch. Mebbe?

I donno. I've been watching you all argue with each other, so that's kind of amusing. Otherwise I'm not really sure.
 
Sorry, but I honestly think if we lynch a villager here that with FTB back in the game... the wolves could win this tonight... which is exactly what the wolves are looking to do...

Lynching someone right now just in an attempt to "clear" others is most likely (in my mind) going to end with a wolf victory.

I almost say that it is worth either lynching FTB to get rid of a known wolf number or to make LIS use his veto to keep the villager numbers up by one for one more night.

I'll do a FTB lynch if you like for this coming night. But it doesn't solve my problem.
 
So...FTB was a wolf, right? Right?

In that case I'm guessing there's two wolves out there and they brought back FTB...to try to win the game in lynch. Mebbe?

I donno. I've been watching you all argue with each other, so that's kind of amusing. Otherwise I'm not really sure.

Yes, FTB was a wolf.
 
Dyachei put it in the right up... Santa's list is gone... deyvn is our only investigative source... you would be stupid to lynch her without VERY good reason.

I asked dyachei about this and she said it just disappeared off of Packen, which means someone has it.
 
Dyachei put it in the right up... Santa's list is gone... deyvn is our only investigative source... you would be stupid to lynch her without VERY good reason.

Ok. Regardless. I do have a very good reason.

Like I said at this point in the game it's more important to know who the villagers are not looking for more wolves.
 
Ok. Regardless. I do have a very good reason.

Like I said at this point in the game it's more important to know who the villagers are not looking for more wolves.

No, you THINK you have a good reason...

Honestly, it would be a much better idea to kill off the one person we do know is a wolf.... get rid of a wolf number right off the bat...

We should lynch FTB

Seriously, if we lynch a villager, there is a good chance that the wolves win this game during this night cycle...

Either that or get rid of the veto... we still keep the same ratio of villagers to wolves but we buy us another night and hopefully FTB will die.

I say:

Lynch FTB
 
well you are just being stupid then.... sorry.... but really.....WOW




did you read the night results????

None of this changes my decision.

We learn the most information by your death. It's the way it's rigged right now.

You die and are clean. I know I can trust SOV and DVMD. And I'm very certain I can trust LIS now too.
 
No, you THINK you have a good reason...

Honestly, it would be a much better idea to kill off the one person we do know is a wolf.... get rid of a wolf number right off the bat...

We should lynch FTB

Seriously, if we lynch a villager, there is a good chance that the wolves win this game during this night cycle...

Either that or get rid of the veto... we still keep the same ratio of villagers to wolves but we buy us another night and hopefully FTB will die.

I say:

Lynch FTB

Kind of how you think you have a good idea.

Ostensibly.
 
I don't believe her at this point. It's irrelevant to me.

Let's say you lynch her and she turns out to be a villager. Wouldn't it be nice to know what her investigation this last night revealed, since presumably you'd view it as 'truth' at that point?

I'm a bit confused - Devyn checked into the thread, asked where the heck everyone is, and didn't reveal her investigation from last night? Bizarre.
 
None of this changes my decision.

We learn the most information by your death. It's the way it's rigged right now.

You die and are clean. I know I can trust SOV and DVMD. And I'm very certain I can trust LIS now too.


whatever.... you dig your grave and you can most certainly lie in it.....🙄

but as DVM said - seems like the wolves might just have a one up on the villagers right now from the numbers

There are 7 players left with FTB in the mix... if you lynch a villager (me) now.... and then the wolves get a kill tonight - the wolves win - pure & simple... so it might not really matter that my death proved I was telling the truth....
 
There is a list.

Also I don't trust her investigations right now and they probably aren't that important any longer either. The only way to know for sure is to have her lynched.

At this point in the game I'm not as concerns who the wolves are but who the villagers are. If she's legit them SOV and DVMD are clean by my account. And with the three of us even with and rand lunches and appropriate use of protection items or skills and the villagers can win.

The only way to get the most info is to have her role and status announced on the open forum with a lynch.

I have been "mulling" over my decision while I skyped with MrsSOV ("She says hi to everyone, wishes she had time to join in")....

JDH has made what seems a pretty compelling argument like this to me in a PM... I think I will answer here instead of in private...

I am not sure that lynching Devyn gets us what we want...
If Devyn is innocent.... all we know is DVMD is innocent. It doesn't really clear anyone else.
If Devyn is a wolf... all we know is Devyn is a wolf. It doesn't implicate anyone else.

I want to lynch Devyn to "know" for sure, but I think that is a stupid reason..

And then JDH is pushing so hard to kill the seer..... it rubs me the wrong way....

I feel like this vote may decide the game.
 
Let's say you lynch her and she turns out to be a villager. Wouldn't it be nice to know what her investigation this last night revealed, since presumably you'd view it as 'truth' at that point?

I'm a bit confused - Devyn checked into the thread, asked where the heck everyone is, and didn't reveal her investigation from last night? Bizarre.

Lets here what she has to say for sure.
 
Let's say you lynch her and she turns out to be a villager. Wouldn't it be nice to know what her investigation this last night revealed, since presumably you'd view it as 'truth' at that point?

I'm a bit confused - Devyn checked into the thread, asked where the heck everyone is, and didn't reveal her investigation from last night? Bizarre.

If I were her, I wouldn't say anything unless I found a wolf...

What she says, "Yes, x is still a villager"... you then say ok... thanks, "lynch deyvn."

Really, it isn't like either of you are going to believe what she says at this point... the results are moot. And will only help some wolf to know who was investigated most recently and make them a target.
 
whatever.... you dig your grave and you can most certainly lie in it.....🙄

but as DVM said - seems like the wolves might just have a one up on the villagers right now from the numbers

There are 7 players left with FTB in the mix... if you lynch a villager (me) now.... and then the wolves get a kill tonight - the wolves win - pure & simple... so it might not really matter that my death proved I was telling the truth....

Yes and your death would make 4 Villgers left. Even if the last three are wolves that's better odds especially with protecting items floating around.

It's nothing personal.
 
Yes and your death would make 4 Villgers left. Even if the last three are wolves that's better odds especially with protecting items floating around.

It's nothing personal.

I hope you are not counting Foxhunter in that... she isn't voting, therefore not helping and it is essentially like we have one less villager at this point.
 
If I were her, I wouldn't say anything unless I found a wolf...

What she says, "Yes, x is still a villager"... you then say ok... thanks, "lynch deyvn."

Really, it isn't like either of you are going to believe what she says at this point... the results are moot. And will only help some wolf to know who was investigated most recently and make them a target.

The only reason not to tell at this point is because you are a wolf.
 
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