****Official PASS 2025 Dental Anesthesiology Residency Interviews/Information~

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How many letters of recommendation are we able to submit on our application for DA? And do they need to be DA's or can they also be other professors/dentists? Thank you!
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m0larm0lar said:
How many letters of recommendation are we able to submit on our application for DA? And do they need to be DA's or can they also be other professors/dentists? Thank you!
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Some programs require 1-2 letters from DAs and some highly recommend you have letter(s) from DAs… It’s always a good thing to find some DAs to shadow and learn more about the profession in general and from their experience, and then go from there.

You may submit up to 5 letters in total on the PASS application portal. For my application, I had DAs, attending D.D.S. faculty, and other various mentors. At the end of the day, you should ask people who know you well.

I don’t think it is only about getting DAs… it’s about getting good quality genuine evaluations. If the person doesn’t know you, they’ll write a generic letter. That isn’t terrible but it won’t be helping you.
 
Do programs generally prefer if applicants have a GPR/AEGD as opposed to coming straight from dental school?
 
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sparklingwatergirl said:
Do programs generally prefer if applicants have a GPR/AEGD as opposed to coming straight from dental school?
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Interesting question actually. I'd say most like it, or are neutral. Some are actually against it a bit because it counts as a PGY1 year which means if you get in their program you'd technically be a PGY2 and they have to pay you more. It's not much more but I've heard it can throw off the funding. I would recommend you reach out to each program you are interested in and ask them directly.
 
Any thoughts about the DA internship at UoP? I’m sure it’d boost my chance, I don’t know if I can survive living in San Francisco with $64k while having to pay $1000 towards my loan each month
 
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Any thoughts about the DA internship at UoP? I’m sure it’d boost my chance, I don’t know if I can survive living in San Francisco with $64k while having to pay $1000 towards my loan each month
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Sounds like a great opportunity, but yes comes at a price. I believe there also might be a anesthesia-focused internship at Indiana. It also seems like some of the OS intern programs are trying to push that you'll get anesthesia experience if that don't fill their spots. I'm not sure how much these things will help your application, but worth asking!
 
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Any thoughts about the DA internship at UoP? I’m sure it’d boost my chance, I don’t know if I can survive living in San Francisco with $64k while having to pay $1000 towards my loan each month
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Oh is this a new internship program? I've never heard of DA internships before, only heard of OMFS internships. 64k will barely cover living expenses. Would that be sorta "guaranteed" entry into DA at UoP?
 
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Sounds like a great opportunity, but yes comes at a price. I believe there also might be an anesthesia-focused internship at Indiana. It also seems like some of the OS intern programs are trying to push that you'll get anesthesia experience if that don't fill their spots. I'm not sure how much these things will help your application, but worth asking!
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The Indiana anesthesia internship no longer exists
 
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sparklingwatergirl said:
Oh is this a new internship program? I've never heard of DA internships before, only heard of OMFS internships. 64k will barely cover living expenses. Would that be sorta "guaranteed" entry into DA at UoP?
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UoP doesn’t have a DA program
 
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Hey yall, I’m an upcoming dental student and would like your advice on what to do in dental school to stand out and really have a shot for DA, I live in Illinois and wanted to also ask about the Masonic program here ? Thanks in advance.
 
So UNLV dropped out of the match - they are doing post match now
 
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Current resident here. There is A LOT of misinformation in this thread about application numbers, process, CBSE scores, etc. from people who are just purely speculating without any basis for their information. So if you're reading through this thread, don't let anything you read influence you or prevent you from applying if you're interested in this field. You have to be in it to win it.
 
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sonicfighter said:
So in total it looks like:

Jacobi decisions (5): notification 09/17, virtual interview 10/28-29
UNLV decisions (3): notification 09/22-10/3, virtual or in-person 11/6
* Withdrew from the MATCH (notified via email 10/23/24) and will be conducting interview invitations following November 22nd
Pitt decisions (4): notification 10/2, virtual interview 10/25
NYU decisions (6): Phone call 10/7, in-person interview 10/29-30
UoT decisions (2): 10/7; interview 11/4
Stony Brook decisions (4): notification 10/8, virtual interview 10/31-11/1
Wykoff decisions (2): notification 10/8; in-person 11/13
St. Barnabas decisions (4): notification 10/14; in-person interview 11/4
OSU decisions (2): notification 10/15; virtual interview 11/12
Masonic decisions (2): notification 10/15
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UNLV already sent out interview invitations. Does this mean they are doing interviews after Nov 22nd? or are they starting all over again after nov 22nd?
 
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UNLV already sent out interview invitations. Does this mean they are doing interviews after Nov 22nd? or are they starting all over again after nov 22nd?
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Starting over fresh. Whatever that looks like is to be determined. They haven’t shared whether they will go through ADEA or have an application that is independent just that applicants that previously were given an interview will be in consideration again should they not match. 😕
 
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PETUNIA000 said:
Current resident here. There is A LOT of misinformation in this thread about application numbers, process, CBSE scores, etc. from people who are just purely speculating without any basis for their information. So if you're reading through this thread, don't let anything you read influence you or prevent you from applying if you're interested in this field. You have to be in it to win it.
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Do you have more accurate info by any chance? or know of a place I can collect more info from?
 
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Do you have more accurate info by any chance? or know of a place I can collect more info from?
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There’s no place where you can collect more info from. The CBSE has only been a requirement for 3 application cycles (including this one). It is still very new and thus some programs aren’t sure how much value or weight to place on it. You can match with good numbers. You can match with not so good numbers. Don’t be discouraged. If you’re truly interested, put your application out there because you never know!
 
PETUNIA000 said:
There’s no place where you can collect more info from. The CBSE has only been a requirement for 3 application cycles (including this one). It is still very new and thus some programs aren’t sure how much value or weight to place on it. You can match with good numbers. You can match with not so good numbers. Don’t be discouraged. If you’re truly interested, put your application out there because you never know!
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Having said that, you should try your best to score well. I also think if you score low, you should be committed enough to retake it. It shows you are committed to anesthesia and you didn’t just take it on a whim to check a box off for your application
 
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There is so much misinformation here. Are any of you doing externships? Does your dental school provide any education on the application and match process? Did you read about the match on the match website? Or talk to residents about the match and post match while on your externships?
 
Can someone who's claiming misinformation quote which part of the thread they are referring to? Nothing has stood out to me as such
 
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Some points of clarification
1. CBSE - scores are going up each year. There was a time when one could get into OMFS with a 40. Those days are gone. If NYU and Jacobi (Einstein) have tuition free medical school for their OMFS residents, what kind of scores do you think their OMFS candidates are achieving? Should dentist anesthesiologists be held to a lower standard? If putting in the time to study now is a deterrent, then residency is not for you.
2. Letters of rec - letters should come from people who have taught, supervised, and critiqued you. A dean's letter is a must. If you did a GPR or prior residency, that director must provide a letter. A group/practice leader in dental school for D4s is a must. These are the people who can give directors insights as to how you deal with criticism, maturity, bedside manner, team player, and are you teachable. Getting a big name DA doesn't mean much. Red flags are when your friend, colleague, etc writes you a letter. (Letters from a non-medical reference should only come if they demonstrate your qualities from a commitment or experience that was of significance in your life in scope and duration.) Letters from faculty/attendings who have been research mentors are nice too. 4 letters from different DAs that one shadowed for a handful of days are not going to provide meaningful insights and directors see through that. Some are too sweet to say no you a letter request but don't have anything substantive to say. A letter from a DA should come only with significant shadowing.
3. OMFS internships are not a great idea. In NY state you need to complete a GPR to do an OMFS internship. In other states, just do the GPR/AEGD. The GPR gives you a month of ED/Anesthesia. Also shows you have good judgement to improve your skills all around as a dentist should you not match. Some programs will also offer a GPR2 to the right candidate in which the second year GPR is getting extra time in the OR. The OMFS internship is doing scut work for OMFS and if they're a good little soldier maybe they will get to retract a 12 hour case or do a sedation or two. Unless they give you a plan, in writing, with some regular OR time with anesthesia, it is not worth it.
4. Cast a wide net. It is a big red flag when candidates apply to a few programs. The best program is the one you match in, so don't look down your nose at any place. Go see it for yourself. Not every program requires a GPR. It may be encouraged, but you have nothing to lose by externing and seeing the place for yourself.
 
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Some points of clarification
1. CBSE - scores are going up each year. There was a time when one could get into OMFS with a 40. Those days are gone. If NYU and Jacobi (Einstein) have tuition free medical school for their OMFS residents, what kind of scores do you think their OMFS candidates are achieving? Should dentist anesthesiologists be held to a lower standard? If putting in the time to study now is a deterrent, then residency is not for you.
2. Letters of rec - letters should come from people who have taught, supervised, and critiqued you. A dean's letter is a must. If you did a GPR or prior residency, that director must provide a letter. A group/practice leader in dental school for D4s is a must. These are the people who can give directors insights as to how you deal with criticism, maturity, bedside manner, team player, and are you teachable. Getting a big name DA doesn't mean much. Red flags are when your friend, colleague, etc writes you a letter. (Letters from a non-medical reference should only come if they demonstrate your qualities from a commitment or experience that was of significance in your life in scope and duration.) Letters from faculty/attendings who have been research mentors are nice too. 4 letters from different DAs that one shadowed for a handful of days are not going to provide meaningful insights and directors see through that. Some are too sweet to say no you a letter request but don't have anything substantive to say. A letter from a DA should come only with significant shadowing.
3. OMFS internships are not a great idea. In NY state you need to complete a GPR to do an OMFS internship. In other states, just do the GPR/AEGD. The GPR gives you a month of ED/Anesthesia. Also shows you have good judgement to improve your skills all around as a dentist should you not match. Some programs will also offer a GPR2 to the right candidate in which the second year GPR is getting extra time in the OR. The OMFS internship is doing scut work for OMFS and if they're a good little soldier maybe they will get to retract a 12 hour case or do a sedation or two. Unless they give you a plan, in writing, with some regular OR time with anesthesia, it is not worth it.
4. Cast a wide net. It is a big red flag when candidates apply to a few programs. The best program is the one you match in, so don't look down your nose at any place. Go see it for yourself. Not every program requires a GPR. It may be encouraged, but you have nothing to lose by externing and seeing the place for yourself.
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What was the CBSE score you matched with?
 
treesandsteeps said:
Some points of clarification
1. CBSE - scores are going up each year. There was a time when one could get into OMFS with a 40. Those days are gone. If NYU and Jacobi (Einstein) have tuition free medical school for their OMFS residents, what kind of scores do you think their OMFS candidates are achieving? Should dentist anesthesiologists be held to a lower standard? If putting in the time to study now is a deterrent, then residency is not for you.
2. Letters of rec - letters should come from people who have taught, supervised, and critiqued you. A dean's letter is a must. If you did a GPR or prior residency, that director must provide a letter. A group/practice leader in dental school for D4s is a must. These are the people who can give directors insights as to how you deal with criticism, maturity, bedside manner, team player, and are you teachable. Getting a big name DA doesn't mean much. Red flags are when your friend, colleague, etc writes you a letter. (Letters from a non-medical reference should only come if they demonstrate your qualities from a commitment or experience that was of significance in your life in scope and duration.) Letters from faculty/attendings who have been research mentors are nice too. 4 letters from different DAs that one shadowed for a handful of days are not going to provide meaningful insights and directors see through that. Some are too sweet to say no you a letter request but don't have anything substantive to say. A letter from a DA should come only with significant shadowing.
3. OMFS internships are not a great idea. In NY state you need to complete a GPR to do an OMFS internship. In other states, just do the GPR/AEGD. The GPR gives you a month of ED/Anesthesia. Also shows you have good judgement to improve your skills all around as a dentist should you not match. Some programs will also offer a GPR2 to the right candidate in which the second year GPR is getting extra time in the OR. The OMFS internship is doing scut work for OMFS and if they're a good little soldier maybe they will get to retract a 12 hour case or do a sedation or two. Unless they give you a plan, in writing, with some regular OR time with anesthesia, it is not worth it.
4. Cast a wide net. It is a big red flag when candidates apply to a few programs. The best program is the one you match in, so don't look down your nose at any place. Go see it for yourself. Not every program requires a GPR. It may be encouraged, but you have nothing to lose by externing and seeing the place for yourself.
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Group/practice leader isn’t a must for some programs, neither is a dean’s letter. I agree with most everything else, I also think that doing an OMFS internship creates an appearance that anesthesia is a backup, whether that is the reality or not.
 
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SuxDrugs&Rocuronium said:
Group/practice leader isn’t a must for some programs, neither is a dean’s letter. I agree with most everything else, I also think that doing an OMFS internship creates an appearance that anesthesia is a backup, whether that is the reality or not.
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An institutional evaluation form (IEF) is the deans letter. Just curious, which program told you they won't need an IEF?
 
treesandsteeps said:
An institutional evaluation form (IEF) is the deans letter. Just curious, which program told you they won't need an IEF?
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Oh I misunderstood. I thought it was meant an additional letter of rec from the dean. I’ve always known it as the IEF
 
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SuxDrugs&Rocuronium said:
Group/practice leader isn’t a must for some programs, neither is a dean’s letter. I agree with most everything else, I also think that doing an OMFS internship creates an appearance that anesthesia is a backup, whether that is the reality or not.
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Yes, I’m not sure what program treesandsteeps is at, but mine could care less what your dental faculty has to say about you. A letter from a DA weighs heaviest. I also haven’t seen a trend of increasing CBSE scores. I’m sure they will steadily climb, but it’s definitely not there yet. People match with low scores across ALL programs. That being said, truly do your best to put yourself in the best position. There are some PDs that see the CBSE as the great equalizer since some schools are P/F and others inflate grades.
 
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Good luck to everyone in MATCH!
Hopefully I’m lucky and get to meet some of you soon!
 
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Does anyone know which programs require a GPR before enrolling in the program? is it just a few schools or majority?
 
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Does anyone know which programs require a GPR before enrolling in the program? is it just a few schools or majority?
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Nah, that’s no longer a thing. It helps if you can show a commitment to the field by doing IV placements, intubations, etc. during your GPR but Wykoff and St. B dropped that requirement last year or the year before.
 
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sonicfighter said:
Nah, that’s no longer a thing. It helps if you can show a commitment to the field by doing IV placements, intubations, etc. during your GPR but Wykoff and St. B dropped that requirement last year or the year before.
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It seems like these are still on their website as requirements. like St. B's requirement is GPR or AEGD or 2 years of post-doctoral experience Dental Anesthesiology Residency Program - SBH Health System . These are now dropped?
 
sparklingwatergirl said:
How important is research/publications to schools? Do they prefer a certain # of publications etc?
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No one has ever asked me about my research or publications during interviews or externships, but mine was more general dental focused. I imagine if you were to do some anesthesia focused research that it would be well received, but you may have to highlight it during interviews or in your personal statement. With programs now having a research and publishing component, it would be good to have some prior experience.
 
Good luck all🙏🏼 Hope everyone matches somewhere. It's been a ride
 
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Yes! Just got the email and congrats to all matched!
 
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Emails went out around 9am EST. Matched with UNLV!
 
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Good Morning! Congrats to all of those who matched!
If you didn't match into Anesthesia and are seeking a post-match GPR position that will effectively prepare you for anesthesia, offering significant IV moderate sedation and hospital OR experience along with opportunities to work with Dentist Anesthesiologists, consider applying to the UNLV GPR program through ADEA PASS. For more information, feel free to email [email protected].
 
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SuxDrugs&Rocuronium said:
UNLV wasn’t supposed to be in the match? What happened?
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They were able to rectify the situation faster than expected and sent out an email that they would be able to be in the match. Perhaps it was sent out to just the applicants they intended to interview initially.
 
WhizKid90 said:
They were able to rectify the situation faster than expected and sent out an email that they would be able to be in the match. Perhaps it was sent out to just the applicants they intended to interview initially.
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When did they sent the email they’d be reentering the match?
 
SuxDrugs&Rocuronium said:
Wasn’t that two days before rank lists were due? I’m assuming they already held interviews then? Very strange….
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You are correct. It was two days before the list was due but they did not hold any interviews. The interviews were scheduled for Nov 7th and due to them pulling out they could not have them. They informed their top candidates via email that they were back in the match
 
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