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Tin-foil-hat theory that Capri is a wolf and I idiot savanted my way to that conclusion and the wolves killed dolphin to make it clear that Capri wasn't breaking a tie to save another wolf thereby debunking my capri/dolphin/sporty theory....

Thats where I'm at. Still processing what dolphin's flip really means...
 
WildZoo said:
If I'd been around and not passed out I would have switched to capri. I don't see her ability and whoever acted on cray both being village in a game this size. Possible, but not probable, and I'm not sure why you guys let her slide on that claim alone.
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I'm really confused by this because I had thought you had me as a village read? So my role claim alone convinced you I'm probably a wolf?
 
Oh there you are. Thought you were lurkin 😉
capri1722 said:
I'm really confused by this because I had thought you had me as a village read? So my role claim alone convinced you I'm probably a wolf?
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Well that and the fact that some of my strongest village reads are reading you wolf. I take that into account. Would have been enough to lynch you over lawp.
 
Melchizedek said:
Tin-foil-hat theory that Capri is a wolf and I idiot savanted my way to that conclusion and the wolves killed dolphin to make it clear that Capri wasn't breaking a tie to save another wolf thereby debunking my capri/dolphin/sporty theory....

Thats where I'm at. Still processing what dolphin's flip really means...
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So let's run with this for a hot second. Say I'm a wolf and your tin foil hat theory is true. We killed Dolphin because...we knew that would make it easier to lynch me? When we're already on track to a sweep? Nah fam.
 
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capri1722 said:
So let's run with this for a hot second. Say I'm a wolf and your tin foil hat theory is true. We killed Dolphin because...we knew that would make it easier to lynch me? When we're already on track to a sweep? Nah fam.
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I think you misinterpreted the tin foil. Read again.
 
capri1722 said:
"Lynch circumstances" being...?
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Man, wolves really don't like reading my posts this game
WildZoo said:
Day 1
This tie was originally created at 6:06pm (by me). It stood until lawp's vote for dolphin at 8:52pm.


It then swung to a shelter/dolphin tie, with me switching to lawp and sporty switching from dolphin to shelter


And then the shelter votes piled on a bit




Day 2
This tie was created at 8:05pm by cheezit.

cray and sporty proceeded to vote in the last hour of lynch with no effect on the tie. It was not broken until capri's self preservation.


And then there was some nonsense at the end, I think only cray's switch to capri and then unlynch ended up counting



In both of these cases, I have the feeling they were v/v ties and wolves basically made no effort to change anything, because why would they? I feel more strongly about that in the early d1 tie than yesterday.

I also am getting the creeping feeling there is at least one wolf among @Melchizedek / @StayingPositive2017 / @Animal Midwife. I don't know what to do about it because I'm not sure I trust their reads of each other right now, and I can't tell if it's just paranoia making what I thought was my village bloc fall apart, or if it's a valid feel.

Anyway, if people could be more specific about their capri feelings, I think that would be helpful, because right now it feels like a weak, easy lynch.
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capri1722 said:
Oh. So I did. Still stands though that his theory is 0 for 2, maybe 0 for 3 if Sporty is village.
On a semi related note, when did we decide there were three wolves?
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That would be max. More likely 2+convert in my head, based on what kata has said. I talked about the options D1.
 
Animal Midwife said:
@genny Can I hear your current thoughts?
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I still want Capri lynched, and I like sporty for that pack. But I also get paranoid about AM + mel as a pack. And then kata is also on my no-fly list.

I think dubz sounds very village. God help me if she’s a wolf again because she’s the only one I halfway trust right now.
 
WildZoo said:
In both of these cases, I have the feeling they were v/v ties and wolves basically made no effort to change anything, because why would they? I feel more strongly about that in the early d1 tie than yesterday.
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Having reread your post, I wonder if you might be onto something here. By this logic I could maybe see Sporty being a wolf, but the people who swung it away from Sporty (either by removing votes from her or adding votes to someone else) were you (WZ) and Lawp and we already know Lawp was village. Sporty also swung the tie from Dolph+Sporty to Dolph+Shelter. So...idk I wouldn't give her a ton of wolf points from that. :shrug:
 
genny said:
I still want Capri lynched, and I like sporty for that pack. But I also get paranoid about AM + mel as a pack. And then kata is also on my no-fly list.

I think dubz sounds very village. God help me if she’s a wolf again because she’s the only one I halfway trust right now.
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ARE YOU TRYING TO POCKET ME

because it is working
 
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capri1722 said:
Having reread your post, I wonder if you might be onto something here. By this logic I could maybe see Sporty being a wolf, but the people who swung it away from Sporty (either by removing votes from her or adding votes to someone else) were you (WZ) and Lawp and we already know Lawp was village. Sporty also swung the tie from Dolph+Sporty to Dolph+Shelter. So...idk I wouldn't give her a ton of wolf points from that. :shrug:
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Shhhh I have dropped that theory. It's just as likely other wolf (wolves?) wasn't around to do anything about a tie and that's why it hung out so long.
 
WildZoo said:
Probably because I was going to fight her lynch all day every day, so better to just kill her.

I made both of those comments in headache hazes. Not like, the smartest thing ever, but I slipped the conversion comment in there in the hopes wolves would see it before this morning and maybe reconsider killing her. Then made the other comment because it didn't work, but also realized hours later that they probably submitted their kill last night anyway, before I woke up and posted things.

Also think it could have been to try to manipulate thoughts on the d1 lynch, but I'm not quite sure where that leads me. Vote analysis is not my strong suite. I tried with the whole v/v ties thing but I think it may have been leading me towards incorrect conclusions.
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killing her because you were going to inadvertantly create wolf distraction with her? that makes no wolf sense
 
Crayola227 said:
killing her because you were going to inadvertantly create wolf distraction with her? that makes no wolf sense
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Eh? I'm saying wolves killed her because they were going to have a hell of a time getting her lynched, but (and I just thought of this) she was also unlikely to be protected.
 
capri1722 said:
So let's run with this for a hot second. Say I'm a wolf and your tin foil hat theory is true. We killed Dolphin because...we knew that would make it easier to lynch me? When we're already on track to a sweep? Nah fam.
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this feels like a slip, like, how sure are you that the wolves are headed for a sweep? it's almost like you know how many wolves there are exactly, the mechanism for kills/blocked kills/conversion, and how many mislynches to lylo

.....or it was just a good village guess.
 
JustPaws said:
I find it disconcerting that Mel hasn't told me why my thoughts on him being a wolf aren't asinine....
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The fact that I haven't even registered that you had a reason for thinking I'm a wolf should inform you how little your claim is actually substatiated on and consequently exactly how asinine your thoughts on me being a wolf are 😛
 
genny's post today is +1 village points

genny never gives you a lot to go on, and it drives me nuts

I DO NOT understand this business about Sporty beyond Mel's thoughts

kata - who are you? I need more.

unfortunately this isn't a massive 35 person game where we can lynch all the quiet players and people who we don't know as well, or I would have just started with those two, and cracked the Capri & Sporty & WZ & AM eggs.

Rather than go off on who strikes me as village... I'll focus on the sketch people.

WZ - I could see her as a wolf, but frankly I haven't played with her enough, and I find my gut either tells me she is too village to be true or a wolf, so basically I guess I want to lynch her all the time which then leads me to never lynch her. This time she seems villagey sketchy, like somewhere in between. Can't process although I would love to see her flip.

Capri - what makes her more sketchy than usual?

Sporty?

Paws?

Mel - the issue here is to explain to me why he's not a wolf. That's the question in my mind always. I don't start with him in the village pile and wait for him to come off sketch. I assume I will lynch him before game end unless I see sufficient reason to go for others and hold off on him, which usually is a quotient of how useful he's been to village. So far I have him village leaning but I would like to see what others think.

Can someone please explain what player on player interactions they are seeing that are leading to their views? I just don't follow.

Who else am I forgetting?
 
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lynch WZ

my gut tells me it feels right

I could swing Capri or Sporty, but for the latter I could use some more reasoning.

And I'm not going to feel good about those alternate votes without some more arguments.

I'm also not going to feel good about Paws, Kata, and genny until we get more content from them or others can chime in why they aren't voting them.

Yes, I'm sheeping, yes I'm demanding that others make their case for their votes so I can make my case for mine. Yes I'm demanding to know why people aren't voting for the people they're not voting for (sorta backwards)
 
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