Panem et Circenses - Game Thread

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As an aside, now having done my research a bit more into lore, I feel better about pippy. This may change dramatically if I see a particular role pop up as dead, but until that happens, I have decentish reasons to believe that Pippy did not start as canine.
 
You're not an easy lynch target for me. I don't generally go after noobs with anything other than phasers set to stun at the very beginning of games unless they do things I find dramatically sketchy, because I like people to get the practice.

Yes, I was annoyed with you and Stagg for previously described reasons, but I said what I wanted to say there and have moved on.

The reason why it strikes me as a tad wolfy is because you are starting to act offended by people questioning you, and while that could just be nooby frustration, it could also be nooby frustration over getting caught as a wolf two times in a row.

Do you have any reads on people who you think are village? And anyone you think may be wolfy beyond just the people who are questioning you?

I’m not necessarily annoyed or frustrated, but this game it’s harder for me to keep up because of vacation activities so I’m having to think faster, harder to find certain posts, etc. Also having to do most of this on phone instead of desktop or laptop which I’m less familiar with.

My first few village reads were mutts (I was one of the only ones saying she was village along with sporty) and genny, both of whom are now dead.

Jboo and sporty have been sharing similar thoughts as me, but jboo has suddenly flipped onto me for reasons unspecified.

I didn’t necessarily like the emmy lynch but I wouldn’t go so far as to say I’m putting her totally village.

Nav could be either very village (has clearly provided the most info gathering at this point) but that could also mean power wolfing us into oblivion as he’s pretty much controlled the thread since day 1.
 
Um. Why?

What is the connection you're seeing between me and AM? Do you know where my lynch vote is sitting right now?

Which is my point. Get some early bussing in today, even throw a vote on AM early, then your position could evolve as the day goes on and you move off of her. Then later you can always refer back to it as proof that you had her as suspect. Not saying it’s a perfect theory, just throwing it out there as everyone wanted to hear reads and thought processes.
 
Day 1 Lynch Tally
Cubs () -
Genny (1) - MsP
Dina (1) - Barks
AM () -
Paws (1) - SAR
Stagg (2) - mutts, paws
Barks () -
mpm () -
ziggy (6) - mpm, AM, jboo, Doggo, cubs, emlady
Mutts (5) - genny, Dina, ziggy, dubz, Navs
Sporty (1) - Stagg
Pippy () -
Doggo () -
WZ (1) - Sporty

18/20
Missing: pippy, dolphin

Day
2 Lynch Tally
Nav () -
Mutts (5) - AM, Lawpy, dubz, Dina, emmy
Paws (2) - Nav, MsP
genny (1) - Doggo
dubz (3) - dolphin, jboo, cubs
Stagg (1) - genny
emmy (5) - Barks, Pippy, Sporty, Stagg, mutts
Doggo (1) - Paws

18/18
 
Which is my point. Get some early bussing in today, even throw a vote on AM early, then your position could evolve as the day goes on and you move off of her. Then later you can always refer back to it as proof that you had her as suspect. Not saying it’s a perfect theory, just throwing it out there as everyone wanted to hear reads and thought processes.
If I'm going to bus a wolf, I'm going to do it better than this.
 
Which is my point. Get some early bussing in today, even throw a vote on AM early, then your position could evolve as the day goes on and you move off of her. Then later you can always refer back to it as proof that you had her as suspect. Not saying it’s a perfect theory, just throwing it out there as everyone wanted to hear reads and thought processes.

Please refer to Mattress store if you want to see how it'd actually go down.
 
Have not looked at voting records yet, but feels alone have me at AM and jboo as wolves right now. Not sure where I stand on em at this time, will re-evaluate that at some point.

Why me and jboo?
 
I’m not necessarily annoyed or frustrated, but this game it’s harder for me to keep up because of vacation activities so I’m having to think faster, harder to find certain posts, etc. Also having to do most of this on phone instead of desktop or laptop which I’m less familiar with.

My first few village reads were mutts (I was one of the only ones saying she was village along with sporty) and genny, both of whom are now dead.

Jboo and sporty have been sharing similar thoughts as me, but jboo has suddenly flipped onto me for reasons unspecified.

I didn’t necessarily like the emmy lynch but I wouldn’t go so far as to say I’m putting her totally village.

Nav could be either very village (has clearly provided the most info gathering at this point) but that could also mean power wolfing us into oblivion as he’s pretty much controlled the thread since day 1.
I am always skeptical of the people who make early day 1 reads with conviction that they are villagers (much more okay with ones of conviction that are wolves, even if they are dead wrong), especially when they end up as people that will likely be lynched. It provides evidence of "oh, look at me, I am the best villager, I knew that these people you lynched were villagers all along." Given that you and sports are in my top two right now, this is certainly not a determent, rather just reinforcing my suspicions.
 
I am always skeptical of the people who make early day 1 reads with conviction that they are villagers (much more okay with ones of conviction that are wolves, even if they are dead wrong), especially when they end up as people that will likely be lynched. It provides evidence of "oh, look at me, I am the best villager, I knew that these people you lynched were villagers all along." Given that you and sports are in my top two right now, this is certainly not a determent, rather just reinforcing my suspicions.

Please find where I defended my village reads with conviction. I explained that mutts was simply reading the exact same to me and in the other games I’ve played so far and I basically gave one line about sporty and genny feeling village.
 
Fair enough. But I never just named you. I highly doubt all 3 people I mentioned are wolves. Maybe none of them are? Just putting my thoughts out there since I have multiple “pressure” votes on me and people wanted to hear from me.

Will you be voting soon?
 
Please find where I defended my village reads with conviction. I explained that mutts was simply reading the exact same to me and in the other games I’ve played so far and I basically gave one line about sporty and genny feeling village.
"My first few village reads were mutts (I was one of the only ones saying she was village along with sporty)"

So either you are playing up your importance in the situation now (wolfy), or downplaying it back then after I make the claim that it's wolfy. Either way, it's suspect.

I will be honest, it will take a fair amount at this point to stop circling around you, as you will be a distraction until you are resolved. A non-obscure claim would probably be the main deterrent that I can think of, even if your early game comments were meant specifically as jesting for sport.
 
"My first few village reads were mutts (I was one of the only ones saying she was village along with sporty)"

So either you are playing up your importance in the situation now (wolfy), or downplaying it back then after I make the claim that it's wolfy. Either way, it's suspect.

I will be honest, it will take a fair amount at this point to stop circling around you, as you will be a distraction until you are resolved. A non-obscure claim would probably be the main deterrent that I can think of, even if your early game comments were meant specifically as jesting for sport.

Define “non obscure claim” when you are considering a D1 post 5 joke comment as proof of my evil emperorness (...Real word? Lol)
 
Define “non obscure claim” when you are considering a D1 post 5 joke comment as proof of my evil emperorness (...Real word? Lol)
As in posting a claim of what your role is on here (not your ability, simply the name). Given that no one else has posted their role yet, if you had a wolfy role, you would be forced to use an obscure gladiator/animal, or roll the dice that one of the few non-obscure ones somehow didn't get assigned. It's a simple litmus test, which works well in games where the well known aspects of the lore is limited.
 
As in posting a claim of what your role is on here (not your ability, simply the name). Given that no one else has posted their role yet, if you had a wolfy role, you would be forced to use an obscure gladiator/animal, or roll the dice that one of the few non-obscure ones somehow didn't get assigned. It's a simple litmus test, which works well in games where the well known aspects of the lore is limited.

Probably not something I'd do at 11am when over half the people havent even read the thread yet, but also something I'd have to do later on to save myself, if it came to that.
 
Probably not something I'd do at 11am when over half the people havent even read the thread yet, but also something I'd have to do later on to save myself, if it came to that.
Hence my earlier comments of "I believe we should leave pressure on him today to force a role claim later in the day."

The other problem with waiting though, is that it does become less believable as you move along. If you are a wolf, you get time to research it and develop a good argument for yourself. Or you complain to the mod about not being given cover roles, and force them to do the dirty work for you. In any event, it will still be a weaker claim if that were to occur. Much more believable if you did it quickly in response to this post, allows less time for collusion, but I doubt you will be so forthcoming.
 
As stated in the post you quoted: feels. You guys feel furry.
Lions and cheetahs are also furry, but not a wolf they make. Also, I get early on using the word feels is fine, but there is 23 pages of analysis to be done, if you are still just saying feels only, it seems the effort is not there to be hunting wolves, which begs the question as to why.
 
The other problem with waiting though, is that it does become less believable as you move along. If you are a wolf, you get time to research it and develop a good argument for yourself. Or you complain to the mod about not being given cover roles, and force them to do the dirty work for you. In any event, it will still be a weaker claim if that were to occur. Much more believable if you did it quickly in response to this post, allows less time for collusion, but I doubt you will be so forthcoming.
:eyebrow:
 
Can I see more than feels going into D3? I know you provide reasoning.
I’m on the cubs lynch for reasoning. The same reason you presumably were when we posted our lynch votes at the exact same time.

Lions and cheetahs are also furry, but not a wolf they make. Also, I get early on using the word feels is fine, but there is 23 pages of analysis to be done, if you are still just saying feels only, it seems the effort is not there to be hunting wolves, which begs the question as to why.
Meh. You’ll get analysis from me eventually. Until then, you’re gonna have to accept that this is how I play nowadays. Like I said, I say things when I have things to say.
 
I’m on the cubs lynch for reasoning. The same reason you presumably were when we posted our lynch votes at the exact same time.


Meh. You’ll get analysis from me eventually. Until then, you’re gonna have to accept that this is how I play nowadays. Like I said, I say things when I have things to say.

Given that Animal Midwife just called you out as saying this is not how you play, I am skeptical.
 
Unofficial Day 3 Lynch Tally
Sporty (1) - Nav
Emmy (2) - Barks, Lawpy
cubs (3) - AM, Sporty, jboo
AM (2) - Pippy, cubs

8/15
lynch close in ~10 hrs
 
Hence my earlier comments of "I believe we should leave pressure on him today to force a role claim later in the day."

The other problem with waiting though, is that it does become less believable as you move along. If you are a wolf, you get time to research it and develop a good argument for yourself. Or you complain to the mod about not being given cover roles, and force them to do the dirty work for you. In any event, it will still be a weaker claim if that were to occur. Much more believable if you did it quickly in response to this post, allows less time for collusion, but I doubt you will be so forthcoming.

In regards to early vs late reveal and its credibility, I will tell you that my role is village, but that my ability becomes fairly useless once its known; so 1) a role reveal isnt going to necessarily save me from a lynch, and 2) outing my name/ability at this point will only hurt village if I end up not being the lynch target at the end of the day.
 
In regards to early vs late reveal and its credibility, I will tell you that my role is village, but that my ability becomes fairly useless once its known; so 1) a role reveal isnt going to necessarily save me from a lynch, and 2) outing my name/ability at this point will only hurt village if I end up not being the lynch target at the end of the day.
I do not care at all what your ability is, in fact I encourage you to NOT reveal your ability. All I want to see on the thread is a name, and that should not in any way impede your role ability.
 
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Barkley13
3. @mypetmoose
4. @dolphin106258
6. @emlady09
7. @WildZoo
9. @Lawper
10. @johnnaboo
11. @Doggo Labs
14. @SportPonies
15. @cubsrule4e
17. @Stagg737
18. @StayingPositive2017
19. @PippyPony
20. @Navilly

15 Players left:
Likely villager roles:
Priscus
Tetraites
Spiculus (in theory could go either way due to his "close" relationship with an "evil" emperor)
Hilarus
Raecus Felix
Marcus Attilus
Lion
Leopard
Rhino
Spartacus

Likely Wolves (likely 4 total with either 3 starters and a convert, or simply 4 at the start):
Caprophorus
Commodus
Batiatus
Marcus Licinius Crassus
Nero
Titus


High likelihood villager:
Pippy

Villager lean:
AM

Slight village:
Lawper, Emlady

Complete neutral:
Stagg, Doggo, Johnaboo, Dolphin

Slight wolf:
Barkley, Paws, MsP, Wildzoo

Wolfy lean:
Cubs

High likelihood wolf:
Sport ponies
 
force his hand at a role claim later in the day. With no one having made role claims at this point, we can either force his hand into obscurity with his claim

I do not care at all what your ability is, in fact I encourage you to NOT reveal your ability. All I want to see on the thread is a name, and that should not in any way impede your role ability.

To me this sounds a little hinky. First you want to force cubs into role claiming then saying its okay to not role claim.
 
Day 1 Lynch Tally
Cubs () -
Genny (1) - MsP
Dina (1) - Barks
AM () -
Paws (1) - SAR
Stagg (2) - mutts, paws
Barks () -
mpm () -
ziggy (6) - mpm, AM, jboo, Doggo, cubs, emlady
Mutts (5) - genny, Dina, ziggy, dubz, Navs
Sporty (1) - Stagg
Pippy () -
Doggo () -
WZ (1) - Sport

Going back to this vote:

The wolves wouldn't have been dumb enough to all pile on Ziggy, or at least I hope they would have had the sense to not do that. This is a my perspective vs. others moment, but I know I am a villager, meaning the only question mark left on the Mutts lynch is Dubz, raising suspicions on them.

Likely at least 1 on the Ziggy lynch is a wolf, but that's a rabbit hole that can be climbed down at a different point if cubs either provides a good enough role name or if they get lynched and don't turn up wolf.

If sport flips wolf, which I feel pretty decent about at this point, I would want to go into Dubz next (the typical wolf vote for a wolf on day one when there is no chance of them getting lynched)

I still think one other from the bunch of Stagg, Paws, Barks, and MsP will also end up popping as a wolf (outside of sports), but that's once again another rabbit hole for another day.
 
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