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Navilly said:
Okay, so with that said, if people do not believe there is a change in behavior when she is converted, why is everyone so concerned about a several hour lapse in posting on Animal Midwife’s end that occurred on day 3?
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This is not really why I was concerned about it, and am no longer concerned anyways.
 
Stagg737 said:
Really? You're making me more and more comfortable with my vote out of pure annoyance.
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I'm sorry. I should just sit back and let you vote for me for reasons I don't understand. Totally missed the memo.
 
Stagg737 said:
Never said anything was ground-breaking, but her reasoning for EM was spot on with what I had thought and I felt like there was a lot of mind-meld with what I was thinking as I've read the thread. Maybe she's unknowingly pocketing me a bit, but everything she said has made perfect sense without excessive speculation. Idk what her reasoning is for Cubs not seeming wolfy, but I'd guess it's probably similar to mine.
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Fwiw, this is also why I had a village lean on Barks (plus just the sense that if she is wolfing for the first time, she's doing a really good job of emulating her posting tone. Her tone reads as more village to me than not).

But, I will also take this opportunity to say that when you aren't ticking me off this game, I'm finding myself agreeing with you a lot, and that leaves me with some mild feelings of discomfort lol. In my notes, I have "making too much sense, but doesn't feel pockety. ???"
 
Animal Midwife said:
Oh. I can't really really answer that because the only times I been converted it was really early in the game, so I don't know if anything changed drastically. @WildZoo? Or anyone else that was in/spectated those games? I felt like I posting the same efforts though.
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Why would you make me relive that

Anyway, I think there was a difference but it was subtle and I don't think it's what we're seeing here. I'll feel better once you deliver a wolf though 😉
 
WildZoo said:
Why would you make me relive that

Anyway, I think there was a difference but it was subtle and I don't think it's what we're seeing here. I'll feel better once you deliver a wolf though 😉
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#nopressure
 
Unofficial Day 3 Lynch Tally
Sporty (2) - Nav, Pippy
Emmy (2) - Barks, Lawpy
cubs (3) - AM, Sporty, jboo
AM (2) - cubs, Stagg
Nav (1) - Doggo

10/15
lynch close in ~4.5 hrs
 
GD you guys post a lot. So I have had time in class to read quickly but not invest/comment throughout the day. I know I liked some stuff too.

Brief thoughts before reread. AM sounds normal still. Stagg is being argumentative which is usually normal but I know early today I thought about a quick Lynch vote there so I need to go back and see what that was. Sporty is being a tad obstinate, want to feel that out further as well :naughty:.

At some point I had a tin foil that dubz, pips, and navi are powerwolfing like bosses, so I feel like if we don't find wolves soon I might reverse my reads and reconsider there.

Gotta say I feel a bit forgotten, no Lynch votes for me yet today🤣
 
Animal Midwife said:
I'm sorry. I should just sit back and let you vote for me for reasons I don't understand. Totally missed the memo.
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Since you seem to suddenly be selectively reading, here's the quote regarding what's wrong with the implications:

Stagg737 said:
Beyond that you seemed to be implying that Dina [took a] vig shot at Genny who she had only mildly mentioned as suspecting in passing, so why the heck would she use a vig kill D2 on someone she didn't even suspect who would provide little info to village. She's a better player than that.
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She had mild feelz for Genny, so the vig shot wouldn't have been because she legit thought Genny was a wolf. So the only reason would be to gain more info, which would make no sense since there were many other players who would have been a better choice for that. That shot would make no sense and you know that.
 
Stagg737 said:
Since you seem to suddenly be selectively reading, here's the quote regarding what's wrong with the implications:



She had mild feelz for Genny, so the vig shot wouldn't have been because she legit thought Genny was a wolf. So the only reason would be to gain more info, which would make no sense since there were many other players who would have been a better choice for that. That shot would make no sense and you know that.
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Okay, so it still is about the vig shot. I don't want to keep talking in circles about this. I'm not changing my stance ever. I'm not Dina. The end.
 
Hmm. We're currently quite stacked on people I don't feel like voting for.

@Animal Midwife Reads on barks, stagg, and dolphin?

@StayingPositive2017 thoughts on that same crew plus pip?

@Barkley13 thoughts on AM, dolphin, and pip?

@dolphin106258 giving you a fifth tag for the day should work, right? 😉
 
WildZoo said:
Hmm. We're currently quite stacked on people I don't feel like voting for.

@Animal Midwife Reads on barks, stagg, and dolphin?

@StayingPositive2017 thoughts on that same crew plus pip?

@Barkley13 thoughts on AM, dolphin, and pip?

@dolphin106258 giving you a fifth tag for the day should work, right? 😉
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Feeling village on AM and pippy, no idea on dolphin because she liked one of my posts earlier but hasn't posted anything today so I'm neutral right now
 
PippyPony said:
Fwiw, this is also why I had a village lean on Barks (plus just the sense that if she is wolfing for the first time, she's doing a really good job of emulating her posting tone. Her tone reads as more village to me than not).

But, I will also take this opportunity to say that when you aren't ticking me off this game, I'm finding myself agreeing with you a lot, and that leaves me with some mild feelings of discomfort lol. In my notes, I have "making too much sense, but doesn't feel pockety. ???"
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Stagg usually annoys me more when he’s being sketchy. And I’m kinda annoyed.
StayingPositive2017 said:
Is Dolph playing?? Lol ok lemme look through
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Lol I’m pretty sure you’ve mentioned me...but that’s okay I won’t be hurt you’ve forgotten me.
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
GD you guys post a lot. So I have had time in class to read quickly but not invest/comment throughout the day. I know I liked some stuff too.

Brief thoughts before reread. AM sounds normal still. Stagg is being argumentative which is usually normal but I know early today I thought about a quick Lynch vote there so I need to go back and see what that was. Sporty is being a tad obstinate, want to feel that out further as well :naughty:.

At some point I had a tin foil that dubz, pips, and navi are powerwolfing like bosses, so I feel like if we don't find wolves soon I might reverse my reads and reconsider there.

Gotta say I feel a bit forgotten, no Lynch votes for me yet today🤣
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You’re always welcome to feel.
 
Just to put my two cents out there about the role name discussion. I 100% like to research lore/mythology surrounding the game, especially if I know less about the subject. And like trying to see if role names will help. So I am 100% on board with Nav’s Argument on that. But I’m also not advocating for a massive role name reveal either.
Also was slightly confused by @Doggo Labs were you just purely confused on role name not being the same as ability? Because I swear Nav said several times before you posted that he was specifically referencing names.
Cubs has not really jumped out at me as overtly sketchy until recently where he seems more elusive but he did say he was on vacation, so I don’t want to just accuse him of being a wolf if it’s truly him not intentionally being elusive. I’m probably just going to go back and reread his posts to get a better feel.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Okay, so it still is about the vig shot. I don't want to keep talking in circles about this. I'm not changing my stance ever. I'm not Dina. The end.
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The implication that you were making was about the big shot. My read on you was not only about the big shot. Stop being willfully stupid.

Animal Midwife said:
Village, wolfy, and neutral-leaning wolfy, respectively.
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I see we've reached that point in the game where I get to say you suck balls at reading me, as usual.
 
I tell you what, I am starting to agree more and more with @Stagg737 's statement that everyone is acting sketchballz

Every time a different person comes on to the thread right now I want to knee-jerk lynch them. Stop it please, I don't actually think you are all wolves
 
Stagg737 said:
The implication that you were making was about the big shot. My read on you was not only about the big shot. Stop being willfully stupid.



I see we've reached that point in the game where I get to say you suck balls at reading me, as usual.
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You can't explain it, can you? All you do is wave your hands around.
 
Stagg737 said:
I already stated my reasoning for this as it relates to this game. If you need me to repost it I will as it has little to nothing to do with what you said above. Obviously I'm not the one who's mad, 'bro'. Also, Navi has failed to catch any wolves thus far so how has it been moderately effective?



It makes me want to see a Cubs or Sporty flip, as that would give me info on the other two of you. EM flip would give me the same info as yesterday, largely in regards to Navi and several other players. I'm voting for you for obvious reasons. I'm not parking my vote here, but you always want people to vote with who they think is sketchy, so there you go.



Cubs - Actually feeling more like he is not a wolf, but there's enough threads tied there that him flipping would give a lot of info, including info on at least 3 of my other sketchy reads (you, Sporty, Navi). So not voting there but fine with the flip.

Sporty - The more I'm hearing from her, the less I'm liking. I'd have to go back and look, but combination of her feeling more and more off, general combative tone to basic questions, and lack of significant contribution taken together make me unhappy. Feels like Dogs. If I move my vote it will likely go here at this point.

AM - This should be suuuuuuper obvious, and also possibly something which isn't super obvious which I'm undecided on but will be keeping an eye on. Looking forward to more contributions.

EM - Actually feeling slightly better about her today, but again, she's still sketchy for the same reasons I gave yesterday and her flip would give me useful info on multiple other players.



Because everyone is being sketchballz af this game or minimally contributing/not answering questions. I feel like Barks is the only person who is seems normal, is being logical, and is legitimately wolf-hunting using semi-concrete logic instead of wild speculations or throwing shade. Could I be wrong on her, of course, but right now that's how I'm reading her. I could also potentially move Paws into my village leans category, but I feel more comfortable in my "neutral village" pile right now.



I'm not voting for Sporty, yet.
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So looking at the bolded here I can already say the top looks like a lie just not to have village reads or something, I mean I suppose you can think everyone is sketch balls (not that I really agree) but just because at least I’m not participating to your liking does not mean there hasn’t been enough participation. Like dude look at what page we’re on. Maybe you really do feel like everyone is sketchy but not having many village reads confuses me.

Also as far as Barks goes I ISO’ed after reading that and I think Barks has some good posts for sure but they’re a lot of feels based thoughts. Which is okay for sure because I do that as well, but I wouldn’t qualify it as semi concrete knowledge/logic. Just like I don’t normally qualify my own feels posting in that way.
Stagg737 said:
I know my memes, tyvm.



Everyone is old to the 12 year olds... (and I'm still younger than Pippy 😛)



You serious? Sporty and you both voted for Cubs moments after Pippy's post earlier. Navi is willing to push a Cubs vote to see the flip. Several players have softly defended Cubs. What info do you think it's going to give 😵




Again, seriously? Your participation and questioning has declined to the point that even Pippy and Dubz have commented on it. You're not aggressively pushing questions (until now) like usual. You've been supporting talk about mechanics, which...what? Beyond that you seemed to be implying that Dina vig shot at Genny who she had only mildly mentioned as suspecting in passing, so why the heck would she use a vig kill D2 on someone she didn't even suspect who would provide little info to village. She's a better player than that. Too many things in conjunction from you that's off and which I find straight up bizarre to let slide. Plus you asked someone to push you, so you're welcome.

There are specific posts that pinged me (already explained reasoning for EM with posts, you can use the search function for that), said I'm not leaning heavily wolfy on Cubs but would give info. Reasoning for you is above. I'll look up Sporty later if you want, but don't have time to dig right now.



Well I don't completely believe in my wolf reads at this point, so there you go. Today is a busy day so I've mostly skimmed. Will be able to actually look back tonight/tomorrow and re-evaluate, but that's where I stand right now.
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Also this, people don’t have to post a lot if they don’t want to. Why do you suddenly get to equate a decline in posting with sketch. Also since when did Pip and WZ became the authority on it. Like that whole comment just bothers me to my core. And ugh. Just major annoyed sketch points to you.
 
PippyPony said:
I tell you what, I am starting to agree more and more with @Stagg737 's statement that everyone is acting sketchballz

Every time a different person comes on to the thread right now I want to knee-jerk lynch them. Stop it please, I don't actually think you are all wolves
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I agree that stagg is acting sketch balls 😛
 
Navilly said:
You have time to ISO dolphin's posts but not catch up on the thread?
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I'm caught up on thread, I read it through the day,I just didn't have time to comment, look into anyone. I'm isoing now. Previous plans were to reread pages 21-25 but I'll do WZs requests first. The comment about dolph was a joke that I didn't remember she was playing
 
To be clear, just because I'm doing a little fact checking here does not mean I'm thrilled with what dolphin is posting now that she has decided to show up

A lot of annoyance there, feels a little out of proportion
 
Barkley13 said:
I'm gonna go ISO cubs and Nav but I feel fine about cubs and Nav is starting to sketch me out so maybe I'm missing something
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Lawper said:
Why?
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Barkley13 said:
Why what?
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PippyPony said:
Wow that was a quick response

How's that iso going?
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Barkley13 said:
I'm still not getting wolfy for cubs
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Not crazy about how fast this iso was which pippy noted, but overall tone seems ok. I liked tone with Em and good pressure on doggo. I was more concerned there early game because of this previously noted:
Barkley13 said:
So far I'm feeling good about AM, pippy, paws
Also feeling okay about genny, cubs, doggo but gonna wait to see more to really decide
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But is was also tied to doggo, who I still have feels for
 
PippyPony said:
This doesn't make any sense.

Do you think this is actually wolfy? Because I would very much like to hear your other reads. All of them.
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Navilly said:
last game has no bearing on the current game.
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Navilly said:
I haven't read through nearly enough games to even get a partial feel for most people's metas.
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Navilly said:
(I apologize if this is out of order, I am going by the search results to "WW" order)
Ireland: Wolf vote and first post
Anatomy Lab Speed: Wolf vote and first post
Bad Apple: First post by wolf
Back to the basics: hiker: First post by Wolf (who conveniently was also Stayingpositive)
Noob game: Neither
Colorado WW: Both first post and first vote
Scientifically WW: First vote
WW at a Wedding - Auto convert posted first and voted first, not sure if they knew they would auto convert though
Smash bros - First vote by "other"
Back to basics: cycling - Neither (was AM)


First vote: 6/10 (1 being other)
First post: 6/10

I am going to cut off there for now, take from that what you will, and go more into reading how people play the game. But I will take greater than 50% on a day one vote.
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One of my reads on Nav is that he is being hypocritical, first stating previous games don't have any weight on this one, yet brings up past games more than once. Then saying that D1 votes should get quiet people to talk, yet



Navilly said:
Early day one votes should be to get the quiet ones talking in my opinion. Throw votes on people who are not very vocal, get them talking, see if they make a mistake. In my experience, many wolves(obviously not infallible) also tend to jump on the first vote of the game, due to eagerness of being a wolf; another reason for my vote going where it went.

But after a few votes, 10-20 posts, you should be able to obtain some analysis to start making some assessments for your votes.
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Navilly said:
#######lynch stayingpositive#####

Posting a lot without any real significance behind their posts, feels like they are fluffing their post count on here to make it seem like they are an active contributor without actively contributing
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Other reads are to me pips, stagg, and dubz leaning more on the wolfie side of things
Paws Sporty cubs are wolfie to neutral
AM MsPro are neutral
Dolphin jboo mutts and Barks are looking okay to village

I would like to hear some reads from MsPro, jboo, mutts, and AM on todays happenings, if I missed them in my catching up just let me know

Dolphin, I thought for a moment there that role and role ability were the same thing when I was reading his posts
 
Animal Midwife said:
You can't explain it, can you? All you do is wave your hands around.
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You're an idiot. Talk to me when you remember how to read.

dolphin106258 said:
Also this, people don’t have to post a lot if they don’t want to. Why do you suddenly get to equate a decline in posting with sketch. Also since when did Pip and WZ became the authority on it. Like that whole comment just bothers me to my core. And ugh. Just major annoyed sketch points to you.
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No, just no. Inactivity was not the only reason this was sketch and that is not the only reason I gave. Did everyone suddenly forget how to freaking read?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
 
[QUOTE="Other reads are to me pips, stagg, and dubz leaning more on the wolfie side of things
Paws Sporty cubs are wolfie to neutral
AM MsPro are neutral
Dolphin jboo mutts and Barks are looking okay to village

I would like to hear some reads from MsPro, jboo, mutts, and AM on todays happenings, if I missed them in my catching up just let me know

Dolphin, I thought for a moment there that role and role ability were the same thing when I was reading his posts[/QUOTE]

I also realized I put mutts in here, forgot for a hot minute that she was lynched yesterday
 
Stagg737 said:
You're an idiot. Talk to me when you remember how to read.



No, just no. Inactivity was not the only reason this was sketch and that is not the only reason I gave. Did everyone suddenly forget how to freaking read?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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Clearly you can’t read I never said that’s your only reasoning. I just disagreed with that particular point hence why I even bolded it for you.
 
Here dolph is being pretty snarky towards dubz and thinks shes sketchy, leading to a lynch vote. Mind you, this is dolphins first post of the game
dolphin106258 said:
UHM. I don’t know did you miss ziggy’s 3000 sheeple comments or does everyone just not listen when it isn’t presented in the tone you all appreciate. I had no feels on you up until this point and this really just set me off.
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dolphin106258 said:
PIPPY and WZ are my major sketch factors at the moment. You I have in a more neutral territory. Pips more so because I hate when people don’t vote when they’re obviously on the thread. But I’m having a hard time reconciling if pip would do that as a wolf and think she could skate by on her jokes of not posting on time or if she’s completely village...

AM and zig I felt was v/v so there’s that. Mutts felt very village to me until I saw what they’ve been posting today.
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dolphin106258 said:
Lynch dubz

Just can’t shake the immediate bad feeling I got from her post about people sheeping AM. And definitely am not completely on board with a mutts lynch. Could change that depending on the answers to questions and explanation for the defeatism so early on.
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But then dubz asks him what dolph means and dolph totally backs down. if shes your leading lynch when you get back and catch up to thread to start the game, why no questions? it was all snark? all a show? do not like, leaning wolfy here
dolphin106258 said:
It was a comment on something you did. Not really a question of anything. Except for the did you miss part, that was just me being snarky.
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