PNWU-COM (Pacific Northwest University of Health Sciences) Discussion 2007-2008

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OCHO said:
MATT, THAT COMMENT SAYS MORE ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER THAN ANY INTERVIEW QUESTION COULD EVER HOPE TO LEARN ABOUT YOU. INTEGRITY IS HUGE, AND TOO OFTEN WE FALL TO PEER PRESSURE SO WE WONT OFFEND SOMEONE. WAY TO GO! I DO WISH YOU THE BEST.


BY THE BY, DID YOU GET IN OR DENIED?
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gracias ocho,
i guess youre right. integrity is hard to come by these days...speaking of--so is an acceptance to med school =/
i didnt get the acceptance so i have to pull it together and reapply this summer!
(well...I havent been outright rejected from the other schools ... but i mean, its SOOO late in the cycle now, i wont hold my breath)
 
That's a good question Max...see my previous entry and check out the website...something I'm trying to get a handle on too...
 
they told me the class was filled at my interview on March 28 and that everyone sent in their deposits.
If you are interviewing, you are going for a seat in the entering class of Fall '09.
 
I'd be interested to know if you will have to move around alot or if they will have like some other schools have where you stay put for 3rd year and can move around if you'd like for 4th year.
 
For all of those hoping to get in off the waitlist, I will offer you some hope. I will more than likely (95%) be withdrawing from my spot within the next 6 weeks. Hope this makes someone's day.🙂
 
Hey does anyone know whats a good price for a one bedroom apt/house in Yakima? I've seen alot in the 400-450 dollar range and was wondering if that's what I should be looking for, or if the average price is cheaper. Also for those of you who are room mates, what kind of price are you looking at per person for 2 or 3 bedrooms? Thanks.
 
$400-450 sounds pretty good as far as I know. You can definitly find them cheaper in Yakima, but I would question the location or quality of the place. I've been looking at a lot of two bedroom places, I found one place that $465, but it kind of smelled like smoke. I am probably going to end up renting a place between $600 and $750 for a two bedroom place, because I would really like a nice apartemnt in a good part of town and preferably close to school.
 
Just another waitlister's typical biweekly anxiety-laden post...anyone have any breaking PNWU news?
 
I wish this thread was a bit more lively.

I come to this thread everyday to see if there is anything new.

How many people on here are going to PNWU this coming fall? Is there a facebook page? What? Anything?

hehehe

I hope you all have one amazing week! 😀
 
Hey. I'm considering applying here for 2009 but wanted to know how much of a chance you have if you're applying out of state since this is a new school. Do new schools generally focus on in state applicants or are they pretty equal in state vs oos?
 
OCHO said:
I wish this thread was a bit more lively.

I come to this thread everyday to see if there is anything new.

How many people on here are going to PNWU this coming fall? Is there a facebook page? What? Anything?

hehehe

I hope you all have one amazing week! 😀
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Are you starting PNWU in the fall? I got accepted in early fall. There is a facebook page created for incoming students, I think you have to be approved by the admin to view it. If you msg me I can send you the link.
Good luck!
 
umean2tellme said:
Hey. I'm considering applying here for 2009 but wanted to know how much of a chance you have if you're applying out of state since this is a new school. Do new schools generally focus on in state applicants or are they pretty equal in state vs oos?
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According the the schools website (www.pnwu.org) 70% of the students come from the five states that make up the Pacific Northwest region.
 
Just my weekly "what's happenin" post...any new developments out there?
 
Does anyone know if PNWU is still conducting interviews?
 
welp, i just happened to stumble across this new school while browsing the internet a few days ago, and I am currently super interested in attending PNWU! I cant wait for the application process to start for the 2009 class, as that is what I will be shooting for!

I just have one question.... what is the big difference between D.O. and M.D.? I am kind of still confused on this whole idea. Is there any advantage to being either one?

Anywho, thanks everyone for posting some great info on the thread! I would appreciate it if those of you in the class of 2008 would keep us posted on how the school really treats you once you have started! ;0)
 
Sandlot13 said:
welp, i just happened to stumble across this new school while browsing the internet a few days ago, and I am currently super interested in attending PNWU! I cant wait for the application process to start for the 2009 class, as that is what I will be shooting for!

I just have one question.... what is the big difference between D.O. and M.D.? I am kind of still confused on this whole idea. Is there any advantage to being either one?

Anywho, thanks everyone for posting some great info on the thread! I would appreciate it if those of you in the class of 2008 would keep us posted on how the school really treats you once you have started! ;0)
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look at the FAQ threads about it. No real difference, doesn't really matter which you become...in the end you are a doctor
 
New question: I'm an Oregon native, spent 32 of my 34 years there, but moved to SC 2 years ago. When I send my app to PNWU will I get screened out as "not from the area" before anyone actually reads my bio? I understand PNWU does look at candidates from all over but the 5-state area really gets a big preference (rightly so since we did not have a DO school until PNWU).
Thoughts?
Lisa
 
I've never really considered myself an activist, an organizer, or really anyone who was all that interested in politics. But the more I look at the financial aid situation at PNWU, the more I get frustrated...and as a result, politically motivated. Again, this has never really been a thing of mine...but then again I did do my OChem series at Evergreen. Anyone from western WA is familiar with Evergreen. After taking OChem there, and for the last 3 years using their library as my personal premed study hall, it would appear that a little of the activist mindset has made its way into my head.

I would love to go to PNWU...I really would...I hope like hell I get in. But even if the planets align just right and I get pulled off the waitlist this year...I'm faced with a dilemma. How the hell am I gonna pay for this? It's not that med school is expensive...I knew that getting into this, and fully expect to have to make sacrifices. What frustrates me is the lack of federal financial aid, specifically the availability of Stafford and GradPlus loans. I don't in any way blame this lack of aid on the PNWU staff...they've done a great job getting the school to where it is, but their hands are tied by the application procedures established by the US Dept. of Education. Call me crazy, but I guess I just get frustrated when I stop and think that all those so called "colleges" that have commercials during the Jerry Springer show have full access to federal aid when an ACCREDITED AMERICAN MEDICAL SCHOOL doesn't!

I found myself looking into SGU (Grenada) the other night. Why? Not because I want to go there...but because they have Stafford loans. I have to admit SGU is not where I want to end up...I want to be an osteopath, and I want to go to Yakima...but because of the loan situation, I can actually afford it in Grenada. Make no mistake...I can afford PNWU. It will likely involve cashing out the pension I've worked 12 years to accumulate...and getting private, non-subsidized, high interest loans. Again...I can do it, but why should I...and why should WE as students have to? I mean seriously, PNWU is an accredited American medical school. It's a sad state of affairs when I can get American financial aid to attend a medical school in Grenada, but can't get aid to attend PNWU.

There's a fundamental problem here. This situation is contrary to the mission of PNWU, and the ideals of most of us wanting to attend school there. There exists no question, PNWU and the hand picked students it trains have the primary goal of bringing healthcare to the underserved areas of the Pacific Northwest. Ok...the simple reality of the loan situation is in direct opposition to that goal. Why? Because any student with 300k in non-subsidized, non-governmental loan debt simply will not be able to afford to establish a primary care practice in Washtucna. That student, that was forced by the department of education because of it's loan regulations, to take out private loans, will have no choice other than to establish a practice where the money to pay them off is...basically the Seattle and Spokane markets. I am certain that the admin of PNWU is aware of this problem...but do you think anyone at the dept of education who approves the loan programs has any real grasp of this problem and it's ramifications? I doubt it.

So...like in my opening paragraph...here's where I get 'active,' and encourage all of you to do the same. I might be completely wasting my time...but it's worth a try...not for me...but for all of us. WE need to make this situation known to the powers that be...our elected legislators. It is common knowledge that when contacted by a member of congress, certain agencies will 'nudge' some things through committee and make the whole "red tape" process a little faster. So, here's the part of my rant where I'm asking all of you to do what I'm going to do...write, call, email, or whatever...your senators and representatives (at the federal level) and make them aware of this problem. Politicians like to look good and all seem to want to improve healthcare. For our elected representatives that seem to give a lot lip service to this topic...here's where the rubber meets the road. Here's a little known problem...albeit with an easy fix...that they can improve.

OlyWa :idea:
 
You go girl!
Burn a bra!
 
Does this proactive rant mean you're off the waitlist at PNUHS?

If so, congrats. 👍
 
OLYWA said:
I've never really considered myself an activist, an organizer, or really anyone who was all that interested in politics. But the more I look at the financial aid situation at PNWU, the more I get frustrated...and as a result, politically motivated. Again, this has never really been a thing of mine...but then again I did do my OChem series at Evergreen. Anyone from western WA is familiar with Evergreen. After taking OChem there, and for the last 3 years using their library as my personal premed study hall, it would appear that a little of the activist mindset has made its way into my head.

I would love to go to PNWU...I really would...I hope like hell I get in. But even if the planets align just right and I get pulled off the waitlist this year...I'm faced with a dilemma. How the hell am I gonna pay for this? It's not that med school is expensive...I knew that getting into this, and fully expect to have to make sacrifices. What frustrates me is the lack of federal financial aid, specifically the availability of Stafford and GradPlus loans. I don't in any way blame this lack of aid on the PNWU staff...they've done a great job getting the school to where it is, but their hands are tied by the application procedures established by the US Dept. of Education. Call me crazy, but I guess I just get frustrated when I stop and think that all those so called "colleges" that have commercials during the Jerry Springer show have full access to federal aid when an ACCREDITED AMERICAN MEDICAL SCHOOL doesn't!

I found myself looking into SGU (Grenada) the other night. Why? Not because I want to go there...but because they have Stafford loans. I have to admit SGU is not where I want to end up...I want to be an osteopath, and I want to go to Yakima...but because of the loan situation, I can actually afford it in Grenada. Make no mistake...I can afford PNWU. It will likely involve cashing out the pension I've worked 12 years to accumulate...and getting private, non-subsidized, high interest loans. Again...I can do it, but why should I...and why should WE as students have to? I mean seriously, PNWU is an accredited American medical school. It's a sad state of affairs when I can get American financial aid to attend a medical school in Grenada, but can't get aid to attend PNWU.

There's a fundamental problem here. This situation is contrary to the mission of PNWU, and the ideals of most of us wanting to attend school there. There exists no question, PNWU and the hand picked students it trains have the primary goal of bringing healthcare to the underserved areas of the Pacific Northwest. Ok...the simple reality of the loan situation is in direct opposition to that goal. Why? Because any student with 300k in non-subsidized, non-governmental loan debt simply will not be able to afford to establish a primary care practice in Washtucna. That student, that was forced by the department of education because of it's loan regulations, to take out private loans, will have no choice other than to establish a practice where the money to pay them off is...basically the Seattle and Spokane markets. I am certain that the admin of PNWU is aware of this problem...but do you think anyone at the dept of education who approves the loan programs has any real grasp of this problem and it's ramifications? I doubt it.

So...like in my opening paragraph...here's where I get 'active,' and encourage all of you to do the same. I might be completely wasting my time...but it's worth a try...not for me...but for all of us. WE need to make this situation known to the powers that be...our elected legislators. It is common knowledge that when contacted by a member of congress, certain agencies will 'nudge' some things through committee and make the whole "red tape" process a little faster. So, here's the part of my rant where I'm asking all of you to do what I'm going to do...write, call, email, or whatever...your senators and representatives (at the federal level) and make them aware of this problem. Politicians like to look good and all seem to want to improve healthcare. For our elected representatives that seem to give a lot lip service to this topic...here's where the rubber meets the road. Here's a little known problem...albeit with an easy fix...that they can improve.

OlyWa :idea:
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Hmm... I was in the interview at PNWU and they said you can get those loans for your first year at PNWU. They did a little trick where they introduced an "early" class in May which gives them the quick approval needed to give their incoming class Financial Aid. They also said that IF you don't get Financial Aid they would provide a private loan at a low rate till you can get your Financial Aid. If you find that your private loan from them is cheaper you can stay with it or you can use the ones from the financial aid. 😀
 
Gasapple...thanks for the congrats...but it's still a little premature.

I'm still camped out on the waitlist...nervously checking my email and the message boards about 20x day.


Hopin for some movement...😳
 
psy said:
Hmm... I was in the interview at PNWU and they said you can get those loans for your first year at PNWU. They did a little trick where they introduced an "early" class in May which gives them the quick approval needed to give their incoming class Financial Aid. They also said that IF you don't get Financial Aid they would provide a private loan at a low rate till you can get your Financial Aid. If you find that your private loan from them is cheaper you can stay with it or you can use the ones from the financial aid. 😀
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I wish they emailed this out because I was fretting about getting the private loan. Thanks for the info psy. And I'm still pulling for OlyWA to get in.
 
touche oly! i really hope you get in, just because you are so passionate about it! If they happen across this thread and read your ongoing enthusiasm about going to school there, i hope they realize how important it is to have people like you there! good luck, im keeping my fingers crossed.

as for me, im just starting the application process this summer...... PNWU, look out! 😉
 
I'm a little concerned after reviewing the website. $175 for a secondary that's not screened? What on earth?!?! Sounds like a money-making campaign.

Also I know quite a few people who interviewed late this winter didn't find out until their interview that they were interviewing for the NEXT cycle, so how do you know whether it's worth spending all the $$ to apply & travel to interview?

I considered PNWU pretty strongly a few years ago when it was still in the works, but now that I'm on the east coast I'm less sure. The appeal of moving home is certainly there, but.....

Thanks all.
 
Just the continuing rant of a nervous waitlister...asking my usual weekly question...any changes and/or new info out there?
 
You mean waitlisters for the 2013 class? The 2012 class is completely full and if there are openings they will call upon the early acceptance from the 2013 lists rather than the waitlisters. There are about 15 or so early acceptance already set for 2013. Well...that's what they told me during my late interview in May. Hope you get in though.
 
Hey all -

First off, I would like to say how truly honored I am to have been chosen as a member of this incoming class. Medicine in underserved areas is something I am very passionate about and I was excited to find a school that placed an emphasis on these areas.

That being said, I am withdrawing from the school. I got into my state school and I just can't say no to in state tuition, especially after paying out of state for 5 years as an undergrad.

I know that someone else will make a great contribution to the class and congrats to whoever that may be!

I know how nerve wrecking the wait list is - so as a heads up I will be once again confirming my spot at the other school and as soon as that's done I will call PNWU. It will be either later today or first thing tomorrow morning.

Good luck to all of you! It's been quite a ride.. 😉
 
stcroix08 said:
Hey all -

First off, I would like to say how truly honored I am to have been chosen as a member of this incoming class. Medicine in underserved areas is something I am very passionate about and I was excited to find a school that placed an emphasis on these areas.

That being said, I am withdrawing from the school. I got into my state school and I just can't say no to in state tuition, especially after paying out of state for 5 years as an undergrad.

I know that someone else will make a great contribution to the class and congrats to whoever that may be!

I know how nerve wrecking the wait list is - so as a heads up I will be once again confirming my spot at the other school and as soon as that's done I will call PNWU. It will be either later today or first thing tomorrow morning.

Good luck to all of you! It's been quite a ride.. 😉
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May I ask what school you intend to go to?
 
OlyWA,
I think you will end up having to reapply =/
you are totally psyched about this school though, SOOOO how about you reapply to this one?!
i only mention this cause now is a good time to send out applications 😉
 
I wish you all good luck. 😀
 
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MrMattOglesby said:
OlyWA,
I think you will end up having to reapply =/
you are totally psyched about this school though, SOOOO how about you reapply to this one?!
i only mention this cause now is a good time to send out applications 😉
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Thanks for the encouragement...I think? Why am I out of luck for this year...school doesn't start for nearly 2 months...there's still lots of time 😳

About reapplying...that's good advice, as I was really handicapped this year by applying so late. Was hoping I wouldn't have to...but looks like that may simply have to be the case.

Keepin the faith...
 
OLYWA said:
Thanks for the encouragement...I think? Why am I out of luck for this year...school doesn't start for nearly 2 months...there's still lots of time 😳

About reapplying...that's good advice, as I was really handicapped this year by applying so late. Was hoping I wouldn't have to...but looks like that may simply have to be the case.

Keepin the faith...
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lol, i didnt mean to be discouraging. Its just that if anyone is going to move off the waitlist, its going to be someone from the early acceptance group. Once every last one of them is moved into this year's class, THEN they start looking at people on the waitlist IF the class is yet to be filled.
 
I hear what you're sayin...that extra waitlist is killing me!!!

Still keepin the faith...but have to admit that it looks like I might very well be applying again. I looks as though we had a similar problem in our both having late applications...your stats look good though, you're likely a sure thing next year. 👍

Good luck :luck:
 
OlyWa,

Have you called the school and asked them what they recommend? It couldnt hurt, right?
 
Welp, I finally said screw it and hit the submit button on my primary application!!!! PNWU, look out! 😉 Hopefully all goes well, but seriously, this whole process is starting to take its toll on me...... stressed, tired, and just down right nervous, haha. Welp, I guess its in the hands of others till secondaries come out!

=D
 
Just my usual question...anything PNWU news out there?
 
http://www.yakimaherald.com/stories/4135

Quotes from the article: "Students will interact with live models acting as patients, and their every move and word will be recorded with digital audio and video for immediate feedback.
"This is very unusual for first-year medical students," Flemming said. "But we want to teach them from the start to observe, listen and interact with their patients. That's what patients want."


As professors write on the boards with digital pens, the notes will be transferred to students' laptops, which are issued with enrollment. "


I guess we won't be buying our own laptops...
 
Since PNWU-COM is a private school, does anybody know if they give out private scholarships or grants like some undergraduate colleges do?
 
ckurtis said:
Since PNWU-COM is a private school, does anybody know if they give out private scholarships or grants like some undergraduate colleges do?
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When I was interviewing there, they told us there are private loans that the school has but that is only in the case they couldn't get the fed loans. Otherwise it is federal loans for you. In addition, their projected cost of attending the school is 48K including tuition, living expenses, and books. The new aggregate Stafford loan limit just got boosted to 224K so as long as you live within your means you can stay within the federal loans.
 
So psy have you heard anything since the interview about the school's plan with the financial aid, I kinda wish they would say something. That's one aspect I don't want to procrastinate on, although I'm finally getting my physical, immunizations, and insurance stuff sent in next week, so I'm still slacking.
 
man, the whole idea of paying these loans back is kind of daunting..... It makes me want to seriously consider military, but do I really want to do that? grrrrr, I hate decisions.....

anywho, anyone who was in the first class of PNWU, bout how long was it before you saw a secondary app after submitting your primary? I know its only been four days, but this whole waiting game is killing me already! 😉 oly, i now have a slight idea of what you were going through, haha

enjoy the sunshine people!
 
Tachymeter said:
So psy have you heard anything since the interview about the school's plan with the financial aid, I kinda wish they would say something. That's one aspect I don't want to procrastinate on, although I'm finally getting my physical, immunizations, and insurance stuff sent in next week, so I'm still slacking.
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This is where things get a bit murky. You should really call the school and ask them about federal loan programs and if you can fill out the FAFSA now. I don't have to worry because I'm in the 2013 class instead of the 2012 class. But you should get on it as soon as possible.
 
😉
Sandlot13 said:
man, the whole idea of paying these loans back is kind of daunting..... It makes me want to seriously consider military, but do I really want to do that? grrrrr, I hate decisions.....

anywho, anyone who was in the first class of PNWU, bout how long was it before you saw a secondary app after submitting your primary? I know its only been four days, but this whole waiting game is killing me already! 😉 oly, i now have a slight idea of what you were going through, haha

enjoy the sunshine people!
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Hey Sandlot...thanks for the plug 😳 Ya...the wait is truly a test of one's will.

Mind you, I applied very late in the game...as I took a summer course which really backed me up at the aacomas primary level. Anyways...I think I submitted in like December (feel free to check my mdapps profile for the correct dates) and received a secondary within about a week. Tough to say if that time frame would apply right now as they're getting ready for their new class and all...but I wouldn't think you'll be waiting an eternity.

You'll likely be just fine. My biggest hindrances were twofold...first, I applied so late in the game...and second, PNWU was my first ever interview...something I realized (in the middle of it) I wasn't well prepared for...I sounded like an idiot.

Again...applying this early...you'll be just fine. If you have any questions about the school, I'd really encourage you to simply call and talk to them. PNWU is a unique animal in that it is still small...and actually personable, they'll likely remember your name...nice people.

Don't sweat the details...you'll be just fine. PNWU is going to be a great school...best of luck on your apps...and if the waitlist doesn't show me some love before August...maybe we'll both be in the class of lucky 13 😉
 
Haha, that would be pretty sweet to be in the same class 😉 I know you would like to get in this fall, but dont worry if you dont, cause we'll take advantage of all the learning bumps and bruises the first class takes, haha. Thanks for the heads up tho on the secondary/interviews.

I too do not think ive really looked at the interview portion very much... In fact, I really dont have much of an idea of what to expect other than that I should dress nice and be ready to be grilled =D i guess i'll worry about that if i get any interviews how bout, haha

ps - i love the number 13 (indicated by my screen name), and i hadnt even thought about it until now..... class of 2013..... i like the ring of that 🙂
 
Does anyone have any specific information about the student health insurance PNWU is offering (besides info posted on their website)? For example- copays and deductibles, and options for dependents. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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