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Viscernable said:
Okay, my understanding is everyone is on board with the controlled reveals. I’m one-shot vig, used it on pleasey - at the time her and TME were sounding wolfy, then she seemed fine with her top village read (stagg) being in the lead, and there seemed to be overall more consensus that pleasey was sus than TME. Would usually probably go for shooting the person there’s most suspicion on as long as I agree that they’re sus (usually the runner-up) but since stagg claimed seer that was obviously not ideal.
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Aren’t we also supposed to give actual role name? “Smart and cunning whatever?”
 
Viscernable said:
Okay, my understanding is everyone is on board with the controlled reveals. I’m one-shot vig, used it on pleasey - at the time her and TME were sounding wolfy, then she seemed fine with her top village read (stagg) being in the lead, and there seemed to be overall more consensus that pleasey was sus than TME. Would usually probably go for shooting the person there’s most suspicion on as long as I agree that they’re sus (usually the runner-up) but since stagg claimed seer that was obviously not ideal.
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role name?

Edit: ninja’d.
 
TelemarketingEnigma said:
Did you have a reason to believe you were blocked other than wishful thinking?

I believe bob claimed to have jailed Samac, though it didn’t totally mesh with her night results. Something does seem to have stopped her from getting my menacing message though, so it could have been bob related.
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Either I was blocked or VSLMIP was protected. I didn’t see MKG’s target list if there was one posted so I don’t think it was the village blocker blocking me. That leaves a wolf blocker/jailer blocking me or a protecter protecting VSLMIP.
 
I am suffered a psychotic break a vanilla villager. I can send a menacing message to another player I choose every night. When I die I can submit a modus operandi for the write-up.

I didn't use the message power until N3 when I sent to Mel. Because I either was lazy, tired, forgot, or wanted to get a feel of the game first, get a sense if we had PRs that would backfire if people were acted on, first. Like cubs in that one game.
 
Day 4: The Difference Between Insanity and Genius is Success

Cray (1) - Mel
TME (1) - AM
AM (1) - Visc
cubs ()
Visc (1) - cubs

4/6

Has yet to vote: @TelemarketingEnigma @Crayola227

Police hot on their tail: 🤔

Vote closes at 10pm EST, TODAY, 11/18 (~4 hours)
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I’m “a psychopath who wants attention” -vanilla village
Can send menacing messages I tried to send one to VSLMIP first night and found myself in a minefield.
My message to VSLMIP N2 went through per mods.
N3 I sent a message to AM
I can also affect my MO into my death write-up.
 
I am “a white male aged in his mid to late 20s”, vanilla villager. Same messaging and MO choosing powers as others.

I messaged Samac N1 (didn’t go through apparently, though my night results did not mention that)
I messaged genny a picture of a cute snake N2 and stagg a picture of a “menacing” frog N3. Great target selection on my part

I received one message N1
 
I am not a sadist, as their victims were not tortured or mutilated. Vanilla village, same messaging and MO powers as described.

N1 forgot about the messaging cause I thought I was vanilla and had no abilities
N2 sent a message to samac who also sent me a message, she picked up on what I sent her and basically asked on thread for me to confirm I had sent it
N3 sent message to mel and received a cat picture sitting in a safe with a gun above it on the top shelf.
 
Also about to be busy the next couple hours on errands. So I don't know I can be on at close and may need to drop a vote or else risk missing deadline entirely.
 
My messages were to stagg N1, AM N2, and TME N3, and also have the MO thing listed in my role PM. Didn’t realize we were including those since they seem to be just flavour.
 
Viscernable said:
My messages were to stagg N1, AM N2, and TME N3, and also have the MO thing listed in my role PM. Didn’t realize we were including those since they seem to be just flavour.
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I was about to get excited cause I didn’t think I had an N3 message But you’re right I did I just forgot
 
cubsrule4e said:
Where’s your gut telling you to go?
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Gut is saying vis

The only thing that would lead me to cray is the write up tinfoil. The rest of my rational brain says no, and iso helped confirm

You feel most village to me. In part because of samac’s confidence in you. If you’re wolf then rip me

AM has not felt specifically wolfy, just low effort. But I like the most recent point on vis

I’m inclined towards mels focus on cray being a village tunnel. But it could be wolfy. I’d probably go there next after vis.

I’m thinking through a tinfoil about role names but haven’t fully fleshed it out and doubt it would be gamesolving
 
Animal Midwife said:
Bob claimed to set a trap and kill genny. So from your perspective that would mean there was only one unaccounted for kill that night.
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Yes, and? From my perspective, there could have been any number of reasons wolves weren’t able to kill, or they could even have also chosen to kill pleasey or genny - there was no writeup hint of a double kill on either, but I don’t bank on there always being writeup hints.
 
TelemarketingEnigma said:
Gut is saying vis

The only thing that would lead me to cray is the write up tinfoil. The rest of my rational brain says no, and iso helped confirm

You feel most village to me. In part because of samac’s confidence in you. If you’re wolf then rip me

AM has not felt specifically wolfy, just low effort. But I like the most recent point on vis

I’m inclined towards mels focus on cray being a village tunnel. But it could be wolfy. I’d probably go there next after vis.

I’m thinking through a tinfoil about role names but haven’t fully fleshed it out and doubt it would be gamesolving
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In the event that you are village, I just want to remind tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
 
Animal Midwife said:
In the event that you are village, I just want to remind tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
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I’m aware. By next I mean less “tomorrow” and more “if more info came to light in defense of vis”

By my calculations:
If one wolf left:
Misyeet + 1 kill = 4 alive, tomorrow still happens
Misyeet + 2 kills = 3 alive, tomorrow still happens
Correct yeet = we win

If two wolves left (or a 3P affecting parity):
Misyeet + 1 kill = 4 alive, parity, we lose
Correct yeet + 1 kill = 4 alive, tomorrow still happens
Correct yeet + 2 kills = 3 alive, tomorrow still happens
Misyeet + 2 kills = 3 alive, we lose bad

So I really hope there’s just one wolf left. If there’s two, I think they are somewhere within Mel/vis/am
 
Viscernable said:
Yes, and? From my perspective, there could have been any number of reasons wolves weren’t able to kill, or they could even have also chosen to kill pleasey or genny - there was no writeup hint of a double kill on either, but I don’t bank on there always being writeup hints.
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The thing is Bob said he killed genny. Also, mkg was already dead. So that would just leave interpretation a stacked kill. I don't think of stacked kills as a first thing when there's already two kills.
 
Also, a question - the rules say no quoting/fake quoting mod messages. Is that just literally messages from mods? I don’t know how much stock to put in these quotes people included from their mod PMs
 
Feeling OK about cubs. OKish on TME. Maybe OK on Mel or AM. Worst on Visc.

So like I guess that's in order least to most wolf.

Gonna

#### vote Visc ####
 
TelemarketingEnigma said:
Also, a question - the rules say no quoting/fake quoting mod messages. Is that just literally messages from mods? I don’t know how much stock to put in these quotes people included from their mod PMs
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That's the usual interpretation. It's rare for a game to say "no quoting altogether."
 
Animal Midwife said:
I thought it was just role name and ability like what Vis posted until I saw others adding the other two parts.
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Goddammit AM

This is exactly what controlled claims are supposed to prevent. You look sketchy af RN.

Here’s where I’m at:

I’d vote Visc.

But that’s only if people acknowledge the fact that we have confirmed that players have a degree of influence over their death write ups, a known investigative role of some sort has put in their death write up that there is a bus going on (the write up says that he was saying “bussing works!” As he was locked away)
If you’re all willing to absolutely ignore the investigative roles attempt at an info drop, fine I am too.
 
Melchizedek said:
Goddammit AM

This is exactly what controlled claims are supposed to prevent. You look sketchy af RN.

Here’s where I’m at:

I’d vote Visc.

But that’s only if people acknowledge the fact that we have confirmed that players have a degree of influence over their death write ups, a known investigative role of some sort has put in their death write up that there is a bus going on (the write up says that he was saying “bussing works!” As he was locked away)
If you’re all willing to absolutely ignore the investigative roles attempt at an info drop, fine I am too.
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I mean, I asked if that was what everyone wanted before I posted. No controlled claim I've been a part of involved the knee slappers, but noted for future.
 
Animal Midwife said:
The thing is Bob said he killed genny. Also, mkg was already dead. So that would just leave interpretation a stacked kill. I don't think of stacked kills as a first thing when there's already two kills.
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Reread what I said. I know Bob said he killed genny and that interpretation means genny tried to kill stagg. I know I killed pleasey. So that just leaves wolf kill unaccounted for. Please see my above post for how I interpreted that. Please note that there being two kills has nothing to do with how likely stacked kills appeared to me, because, as I said, from my perspective I knew I was the source of one kill, there were at least two killing factions possible, and stagg’s results as he described them sounded consistent with a bomb. To others, please note AM’s twisting and deliberate obtuseness about this.
 
Viscernable said:
Reread what I said. I know Bob said he killed genny and that interpretation means genny tried to kill stagg. I know I killed pleasey. So that just leaves wolf kill unaccounted for. Please see my above post for how I interpreted that. Please note that there being two kills has nothing to do with how likely stacked kills appeared to me, because, as I said, from my perspective I knew I was the source of one kill, there were at least two killing factions possible, and stagg’s results as he described them sounded consistent with a bomb. To others, please note AM’s twisting and deliberate obtuseness about this.
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Okay I get this but I also don’t think this is an example of AM being obtuse

And that’s coming from me
 
Viscernable said:
Reread what I said. I know Bob said he killed genny and that interpretation means genny tried to kill stagg. I know I killed pleasey. So that just leaves wolf kill unaccounted for. Please see my above post for how I interpreted that. Please note that there being two kills has nothing to do with how likely stacked kills appeared to me, because, as I said, from my perspective I knew I was the source of one kill, there were at least two killing factions possible, and stagg’s results as he described them sounded consistent with a bomb. To others, please note AM’s twisting and deliberate obtuseness about this.
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I'm not twisting anything. I just don't understand why you'd think two killing factions exists in conjunction with Bob's village kill when that was the first double kill of the game.
 
Melchizedek said:
Goddammit AM

This is exactly what controlled claims are supposed to prevent. You look sketchy af RN.

Here’s where I’m at:

I’d vote Visc.

But that’s only if people acknowledge the fact that we have confirmed that players have a degree of influence over their death write ups, a known investigative role of some sort has put in their death write up that there is a bus going on (the write up says that he was saying “bussing works!” As he was locked away)
If you’re all willing to absolutely ignore the investigative roles attempt at an info drop, fine I am too.
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The problem is that every other piece of evidence I have points away from cray being wolf

If there’s a busser, you would be my vote
 
Melchizedek said:
Goddammit AM

This is exactly what controlled claims are supposed to prevent. You look sketchy af RN.

Here’s where I’m at:

I’d vote Visc.

But that’s only if people acknowledge the fact that we have confirmed that players have a degree of influence over their death write ups, a known investigative role of some sort has put in their death write up that there is a bus going on (the write up says that he was saying “bussing works!” As he was locked away)
If you’re all willing to absolutely ignore the investigative roles attempt at an info drop, fine I am too.
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I’ll agree to be whipped post-game if we lose to Cray for ignoring the bussing hint so long as you agree to be if we lose to AM and stagg was just referencing his bussing Brand.
 
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