SHWWENANIGOATS: The Unauthorized GGOATS Sequel - GAME THREAD

[supershorty]

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Whatever floats your goat - Day 2 Tally

genny (1) - AM
Clem (1) - Vis
sheltermed (1) - Chillbo
Chillbo (2) - Zenon, Zenge
Sporty (2) - Clem, sheltermed

@Chillbo Baggins and @SportPonies, you are kinda sorta barely in the lead!
A tie

7/10 voting
Missing: @genny, @WildZoo, @SportPonies

Vote closes today, 7/29, at 9 PM CDT (~12.5 hours).

 

[sheltermed]

Who is @WildZoo most concerned with at this time?

I see you deflecting this (not unusual I know) but I don't think we've seen too much in terms of reads from you either? You've made some comments but I don't think I see any "this is who I'm concerned about" posts from you despite your requesting that of several people. Not calling you out, just saying!

I said I'd revisit my reads this morning so here.

With dubz still on the empty brain thing I have a slight wolf lean there.

Vissy also wolf lean, mostly vibes but also the tie, being concerned about it and not changing a vote- yes you wanted a chillbo mayorship (still don't really see why despite the sort of explanation) but leaving it at a tie certainly didn't guarantee that and being distracted after expressly demonstrating concern for the tie doesn't look great in my opinion

Zenge idk. I guess neutral for now based on outside comments but I'm still pinged based on the possible seemingly opportunistic chillbo vote.

Clem, Zenon neutral for now

Can't really read you (AM) nor genny as usual but someone commented on how you seem to be your village self so I might tuck you into slight village. genny is always vague kinda evasive so maybe slight village for her too. These are tentative reads as time goes on.

Want to hear from @SportPonies so I can better consider my vote there. I wouldn't be opposed to voting for vissy based on above comments

Hopefully this is more to your liking lol

 

[WildZoo]

Still? I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but I didn't expect you to persist on the brain empty

Can someone point me in the direction of Zenge joking about a wolf meltdown? I must have missed it because I never know when anyone is joking

What part of "I'll play but I will be sparse this game" is hard to understand?

You literally played last game with me so I don't get the confusion. My ability to read the thread effectively during the week is minimal. I made that pretty clear.

 

[sheltermed]

Sheltermed: Tries to shade and crucify me for “an opportunistic vote on Chilly B”

Also Sheltermed: Opportunistically votes Sporty

Trying to decide if I think this is a wolf, or it’s the kind of ultra Wolfy thing Sheltermed always does that triggers me.

I disagree that it was opportunistic on my end. I think I said I wanted to hear from sporty before I decided and when AM noted she agreed with that I decided to at least temporarily put my vote there. I just trust AM's opinion and I'm not saying that to pocket her or to say I'm village reading her, she's just (probably unintentionally) helping my own play which I guess is often perceived as wolfy(?)

 

[Animal Midwife]

I see you deflecting this (not unusual I know) but I don't think we've seen too much in terms of reads from you either? You've made some comments but I don't think I see any "this is who I'm concerned about" posts from you despite your requesting that of several people. Not calling you out, just saying!

I said I'd revisit my reads this morning so here.

With dubz still on the empty brain thing I have a slight wolf lean there.

Vissy also wolf lean, mostly vibes but also the tie, being concerned about it and not changing a vote- yes you wanted a chillbo mayorship (still don't really see why despite the sort of explanation) but leaving it at a tie certainly didn't guarantee that and being distracted after expressly demonstrating concern for the tie doesn't look great in my opinion

Zenge idk. I guess neutral for now based on outside comments but I'm still pinged based on the possible seemingly opportunistic chillbo vote.

Clem, Zenon neutral for now

Can't really read you (AM) nor genny as usual but someone commented on how you seem to be your village self so I might tuck you into slight village. genny is always vague kinda evasive so maybe slight village for her too. These are tentative reads as time goes on.

Want to hear from @SportPonies so I can better consider my vote there. I wouldn't be opposed to voting for vissy based on above comments

Hopefully this is more to your liking lol

This is still a call out despite the disclaimer otherwise. I think my posts have been pretty clear on my stances. I also want to see what dubz thinks of the threadstate without my assistance.

But there's also no Chillbo read here despite one of your other reads hinging on it.

 

[sheltermed]

My ability to read the thread effectively during the week is minimal.

Ya I said "still" because it's no longer the week, but it's also just Saturday morning so I'm willing to continue giving you the benefit of the doubt. That doesn't mean I'm backing off my initial ping but I do respect what you said about being busy and minimal on thread as a result

 

[WildZoo]

This is still a call out despite the disclaimer otherwise. I think my posts have been pretty clear on my stances. I also want to see what dubz thinks of the threadstate without my assistance.

But there's also no Chillbo read here despite one of your other reads hinging on it.

I'm not asking for your assistance, I am looking to evaluate where your head is at and get a read on you.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not asking for your assistance, I am looking to evaluate where your head is at and get a read on you.

My iso says where my head's at.

 

[WildZoo]

My iso says where my head's at.

I'm not doing ISOs at the moment, so how about you stop stonewalling me and give me a summary like you request of everyone else

 

[WildZoo]

Ya I said "still" because it's no longer the week, but it's also just Saturday morning so I'm willing to continue giving you the benefit of the doubt. That doesn't mean I'm backing off my initial ping but I do respect what you said about being busy and minimal on thread as a result

Yes it is literally Saturday morning, early game which is never my strong point even when I'm active, and I am in the middle of trying to get reads. A "ping" in this scenario is not based on anything AI but feel free to keep it if you wish.

 

[sheltermed]

This is still a call out despite the disclaimer otherwise. I think my posts have been pretty clear on my stances. I also want to see what dubz thinks of the threadstate without my assistance.

But there's also no Chillbo read here despite one of your other reads hinging on it.

Not sure what to make of chillbo. I've never played with him and I think his contributions have been fairly minimal. I see where Zenge is coming from about not liking some of the things chillbo has said on thread but it may be just the way he is. I mentioned earlier he seems like a genny type player. Waiting to hear more but also comfortable leaving my vote for now since I also want to hear from sporty. Can only do one at a time unfortunately.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Not sure what to make of chillbo. I've never played with him and I think his contributions have been fairly minimal. I see where Zenge is coming from about not liking some of the things chillbo has said on thread but it may be just the way he is. I mentioned earlier he seems like a genny type player. Waiting to hear more but also comfortable leaving my vote for now since I also want to hear from sporty. Can only do one at a time unfortunately.

Right, but I was just wondering why you think Zenge's vote is opportunistic if you can see where's he coming from?

 

[WildZoo]

See now I'm agitated and that's not fun

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not doing ISOs at the moment, so how about you stop stonewalling me and give me a summary like you request of everyone else

My summary requests are reserved for people who either haven't shared any reads of their own or people who shared a list of neutrals.

 

[WildZoo]

@Zenge142 perhaps you will answer my question since AM doesn't want to talk to me

I'm not all that inspired by the Chillbo push tbh.

Whomst are @Animal Midwife and @Zenge142 most concerned with at this time?

 

[sheltermed]

Right, but I was just wondering why you think Zenge's vote is opportunistic if you can see where's he coming from?

Well just because I see it as opportunistic doesn't mean I don't empathize with it. I think both things can be true.

My iso says where my head's at.

I kind of disagree with this. You gave a good bit of your views on Chillbo. You talked a liiitle bit about genny after you voted there. You responded to some of my reads last night and to others'. But I don't think it's entirely clear where your head's at. Maybe for just a couple players.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well just because I see it as opportunistic doesn't mean I don't empathize with it. I think both things can be true.


I kind of disagree with this. You gave a good bit of your views on Chillbo. You talked a liiitle bit about genny after you voted there. You responded to some of my reads last night and to others'. But I don't think it's entirely clear where your head's at. Maybe for just a couple players.

I suggest re-ISOing then. I've talked to everyone but Sporty at this point.

 

[WildZoo]

My summary requests are reserved for people who either haven't shared any reads of their own or people who shared a list of neutrals.

I do not care who your summary requests are directed at, mine are directed at people I'm trying to get a read on, and at the moment that is you

 

[sheltermed]

ISOing on SDN is hard cuz they only give you the message previews and you have to click each one and go back and click another one and go back and click another one and go back. I liked MU for this 😭

 

[supershorty]

ISOing on SDN is hard cuz they only give you the message previews and you have to click each one and go back and click another one and go back and click another one and go back. I liked MU for this 😭

that's why threadloom was better 😢

 

[Animal Midwife]

I do not care who your summary requests are directed at, mine are directed at people I'm trying to get a read on, and at the moment that is you

I'm also trying to get a read on you and that's harder to do if I can't be sure I'm getting an organic progression vs a readslist that simply boosts my ego. You've played with me for years. You know this.

We can talk more when I have some reads from you.

 

[Princess Abigail]

Still? I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but I didn't expect you to persist on the brain empty

Can someone point me in the direction of Zenge joking about a wolf meltdown? I must have missed it because I never know when anyone is joking

I'm not gonna lie you are super pure and adorable and I don't think I could ever vote to execute you lol

 

[Princess Abigail]

This sort of nonsense mimics almost exactly how he posts in wolfchat when he’s losing it

Intresting...

 

[sheltermed]

Sheltermed: Tries to shade and crucify me for “an opportunistic vote on Chilly B”

Also Sheltermed: Opportunistically votes Sporty

Trying to decide if I think this is a wolf, or it’s the kind of ultra Wolfy thing Sheltermed always does that triggers me.

Also, shade and crucify? I don't think I would go that far 😂

 

[Princess Abigail]

What part of "I'll play but I will be sparse this game" is hard to understand?

You literally played last game with me so I don't get the confusion. My ability to read the thread effectively during the week is minimal. I made that pretty clear.

This feels... unnecessarily aggro for the line of questioning here. Generally I find over reactions to be wolfy.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm also trying to get a read on you and that's harder to do if I can't be sure I'm getting an organic progression vs a readslist that simply boosts my ego. You've played with me for years. You know this.

We can talk more when I have some reads from you.

If you think that I can simply acquire your reads from your ISO and pocket you with a reads list you like, then there's really no point in being difficult, you're just making things harder for me when I'm actually trying to evaluate you in the most efficient way I can. You're not withholding information that wolf!Dubz couldn't acquire, you're just making village!Dubz's life less enjoyable, and I'm not sure why village!AM would want to do that.

But if that's how you'd prefer to handle things, carry on.

 

[WildZoo]

This feels... unnecessarily aggro for the line of questioning here. Generally I find over reactions to be wolfy.

Generally I find being called out for NAI things that I stated would be the case before the game started, and that were also heavily apparent in a previous game, extremely annoying

 

[WildZoo]

Especially when I'm literally in the middle of trying to get reads and being met with unhelpful resistance.

But sure, keep poking me when I'm already annoyed, that will be fun for everyone

 

[sheltermed]

Especially when I'm literally in the middle of trying to get reads and being met with unhelpful resistance.

But sure, keep poking me when I'm already annoyed, that will be fun for everyone

 

[Clem J]

@Clem J why the Sporty vote?

Vibes

 

[Zenge142]

@Zenge142 perhaps you will answer my question since AM doesn't want to talk to me

I'm not all that inspired by the Chillbo push tbh.

Chilly B and Shelty Belty

 

[Zenge142]

This feels... unnecessarily aggro for the line of questioning here. Generally I find over reactions to be wolfy.

I read it as genuine frustration

 

[WildZoo]

Vibes

Can you expand please

 

[WildZoo]

inb4 Clem: No 🙂

 

[Clem J]

Let's just role play it.

Clem why are you asking questions just to ask questions?

Ur mom wasn't asking questions last night

 

[Zenge142]

Chilly B and Shelty Belty

I guess also maybe clem.

Vibes

Ur mom wasn't asking questions last night

These aren’t my favorite.

 

[WildZoo]

I guess also maybe clem.


These aren’t my favorite.

Those just seem like normal Clem posts to me, I'm not seeing how you'd get anything AI from them

 

[Animal Midwife]

I guess also maybe clem.


These aren’t my favorite.

I've literally seen Clem say the first in all of his games here and the second was a joke response to a joke response.

 

[Clem J]

See now I'm agitated and that's not fun

Hi agitated, I'm dad

 

[Zenge142]

Those just seem like normal Clem posts to me, I'm not seeing how you'd get anything AI from them

I mean yes and no. I feel like there’s usually a little more protein

 

[WildZoo]

I don't think I like Vissy's "oh no it's tied" post and then doing nothing about it. I understand getting distracted but she only posted asking people to switch to genny, not trying to get anyone to move to Chillbo, who was apparently her preferred candidate. Calling Clem out for not being involved in the tie after that feels weird.

 

[Zenge142]

I've literally seen Clem say the first in all of his games here and the second was a joke response to a joke response.

I’m saying if I’m looking for people, I have no reason to clear clem at present and I am concerned about anyone I don’t feel like I have something to clear them for.

Dubz asked who I was concerned about. Clem is on that list because there’s a lack of protein and it hinders my ability to clear him.

 

[Clem J]

Can you expand please

I would but I genuinely can't, like...the read doesn't go deeper than "huh, something seems kinda off," it's really not a high confidence read rn or one I'd want sheeped lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

I’m saying if I’m looking for people, I have no reason to clear clem at present and I am concerned about anyone I don’t feel like I have something to clear them for.

Dubz asked who I was concerned about. Clem is on that list because there’s a lack of protein and it hinders my ability to clear him.

I'm not saying he's clear or anything, but this is actually the most context he's contributed since his very first game here. So I don't want to punish that without good reason.

 

[WildZoo]

15ish minutes before close:

Oh god why is it still a tie

5ish minutes before close:

Someone come to genny side!! Embrace the alabama side

Tally at the time:

An Unforgoatable Time - Day 1 Mayoral Tally

AM (5) - Zenge, Dubz, AM, sheltermed, Zenon
Chillbo (5) - mkg, Chillbo, genny, Vis, Sporty
Sporty (1) - Clem
genny ()

11/11 voting
Missing: n/a

Vote closes TODAY, 7/27, at 9 PM CDT (~4ish MINUTES)

Clem vote reasoning:

So because he was around at EOD and sitting off of the tie

yeet Clem

 

[Clem J]

I guess also maybe clem.


These aren’t my favorite.

Ur mom said I was her favorite last night

 

[WildZoo]

I would but I genuinely can't, like...the read doesn't go deeper than "huh, something seems kinda off," it's really not a high confidence read rn or one I'd want sheeped lol

I will actually accept this

 

[WildZoo]

Yeet Vissy

 

[Zenge142]

I don't think I like Vissy's "oh no it's tied" post and then doing nothing about it. I understand getting distracted but she only posted asking people to switch to genny, not trying to get anyone to move to Chillbo, who was apparently her preferred candidate. Calling Clem out for not being involved in the tie after that feels weird.

Oh yeah! I forgot about Vis. Vis is also hanging in my POE.

Spoiler

 

[WildZoo]

I mean yes and no. I feel like there’s usually a little more protein

Idk I feel like the only time I've seen Clem real serious this early in the game was when he caught me wolfing