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Animal Midwife said:
You can't really say "wolves wouldn't..." then when we have evidence that they did.
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Yeah I can, because I just did. I'm saying that I would not have done that (at least, not that early -- I would bet I would be fine pushing it late game), but also that it's not outside of Coop's wolf game to get all excited about tasty village meat. And I doubt there was another wolf pushing that lynch super duper hard, although I do feel like it's worth looking more into the earlier voters...as well as people who moved off.
 
PippyPony said:
Yeah I can, because I just did. I'm saying that I would not have done that (at least, not that early -- I would bet I would be fine pushing it late game), but also that it's not outside of Coop's wolf game to get all excited about tasty village meat. And I doubt there was another wolf pushing that lynch super duper hard, although I do feel like it's worth looking more into the earlier voters.
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Well, you just said the generic wolves not yourself.

Don't think Cray would push that hard?
 
PippyPony said:
And see, I also kinda disagree with this. I feel like wolves would have stayed the **** away from looking like they were actively pushing her lynch for exactly that reason. Because they would know she wasn't BSing, therefore would know how it would look in retrospect. Would they want the lynch to happen? Yeah, for sure, if they were thinking that far ahead. But I doubt anyone would be super duper loud about it.
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Bit of WIFOM there
And look at coop
 
PippyPony said:
Yeah I can, because I just did. I'm saying that I would not have done that (at least, not that early -- I would bet I would be fine pushing it late game), but also that it's not outside of Coop's wolf game to get all excited about tasty village meat. And I doubt there was another wolf pushing that lynch super duper hard, although I do feel like it's worth looking more into the earlier voters...as well as people who moved off.
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I said wolves, not you. Just because you wouldn't (or at least say you wouldn't) doesn't mean other wolves wouldn't. Haven't voted for you or even mentioned being suspicious of you so don't know why you would go that route anyway. Obviously not every vote on that lynch was a wolf. I do believe they were happy to encourage it though.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Well, you just said the generic wolves not yourself.
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Deep thoughts: and this is just because I have ego-centric logic and thus when I'm talking off the cuff like this I just assume the default of everyone thinks like me, until my brain catches up and I remember that other people aren't me 😛

Even deeper thoughts: I like WIFOM because I just want to wolf again, guys. I miss it. lol
 
PippyPony said:
Deep thoughts: and this is just because I have ego-centric logic and thus when I'm talking off the cuff like this I just assume the default of everyone thinks like me, until my brain catches up and I remember that other people aren't me 😛

Even deeper thoughts: I just want to wolf again, guys. I miss it. lol
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I don't want you to rand wolf because then I rand it with you and write 50 pages about my death.
 
WildZoo said:
I said wolves, not you. Just because you wouldn't (or at least say you wouldn't) doesn't mean other wolves wouldn't. Haven't voted for you or even mentioned being suspicious of you so don't know why you would go that route anyway.
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...I didn't insinuate that you did vote for me or were actually suspicious of me? Or if I did, I didn't mean to. I was commenting on how I am evaluating that lynch in my own head.
 
PippyPony said:
...I didn't insinuate that you did vote for me or were actually suspicious of me? Or if I did, I didn't mean to. I was commenting on how I am evaluating that lynch in my own head.
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Just seemed like a kind of defensive "well I wouldn't do that as a wolf" since you were on that lynch
 
Miranda Senft said:
Okay y'all, it's freaking Day 1 and I mentioned before the game even started that I would be busy until July 8th as I'm driving all day tomorrow and packing up today. But as Dubz said everyone has lives lol.

Lynch Elfabeth

because, although you're a noob, it's a great strategy as a noob to declare that because you're a noob you're going to bandwagon and, therefore, go under the radar. You deserve to live another day in my opinion and based on the current votes I don't believe you'll get lynched, but I don't believe mixy is giving off wolfy vibes because tbh (sorry mixy) she always gives off vibes and she's almost never a wolf. I don't want to not vote for anybody, but I want it on the record that I dislike first day votes (as I'm sure most people do). So, there!
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first post after being called out and voted for and she goes for the quiet noob who made herself an easy target

Miranda Senft said:
You seem like your normal questioning self
Mel seems like his normal self as well
Dubz is a bit quiet but I'm not too concerned
PBC seems a bit defensive but to be voted on the first day makes you so so I'm eh
I'm always suspicious of Cray just based on her meta so I'm keeping my eye on her
RL-KB is a dangerous hybrid since RL is a noob and can claim as such and KB is such an experienced player and, having wolfed with her recently, she's excellent at directing people
I don't agree with the Mixy vote as she sounds normal
I think allie is a bit defensive, but again, she got lynched last time for being quiet so I'm willing to give her a day
SAR seems suspicious
Jboo is kinda setting off my radar but I just wolfed with her last game and she was less active that game
Paws seems normal as well
I haven't played with a lot of the people here so this is what I've got so far.
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really shades the hydra and agree with kcough that it seems like not much and found the allie piece odd

Miranda Senft said:
I want to hear from @johnnaboo because AM asked her who she was sketch of and she never responded. And I'm getting feels from Coffee? again especially with the similar comments that she made from last game (recommending that we don't lynch her).
I hope we hear from everyone tomorrow. And, remember that I'm going to be driving most of the day so I'll try to get on before close 🙂 For now,

Contingency lynch Jboo
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found the jboo part odd as well as she did respond to AM

Miranda Senft said:
I always give reads when asked! I try to be as honest as possible because I have nothing to hide!
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it was very reactionary and you had had very little useful contribution before that. You had enough time to throw out joke votes and joke unlynches but you couldn't get in useful contribution at the same time?

After consulting the voice in my head, I'm going to take her advice and
Unlynch Coffee
Lynch Moose

I understand now my misstep with not knowing what a read is and accidentally leading people to believe I was formulating them and then seemed like I ghosted.
 
RedLauren said:
first post after being called out and voted for and she goes for the quiet noob who made herself an easy target



really shades the hydra and agree with kcough that it seems like not much and found the allie piece odd



found the jboo part odd as well as she did respond to AM



it was very reactionary and you had had very little useful contribution before that. You had enough time to throw out joke votes and joke unlynches but you couldn't get in useful contribution at the same time?

After consulting the voice in my head, I'm going to take her advice and
Unlynch Coffee
Lynch Moose

I understand now my misstep with not knowing what a read is and accidentally leading people to believe I was formulating them and then seemed like I ghosted.
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It was D1. I wasn't "going after you"! It was literally a joke! And I didn't agree with the mixy vote, so I didn't vote for her. I also didn't agree with the other votes. Therefore, I went for a person who admitted to bandwagoning (pointing out that based on votes, she'd survive) and I hope it was a valuable lesson for her.
You are a dangerous hydra. Calling you out for that shouldn't make me shady. It should make me honest and Kara knows this. And my reads being "not much", again...DAY 1.
I'm getting weird feels from Jboo based on her voting Mixy and not really answering AM's questioning. She didn't answer it to my satisfaction and seemed to avoid it!
And you know me, Kara, I am reactionary.
 
DAY 2 LYNCH TALLY
Elfabeth (1) - Stagg
jboo (3) - Moose, PBC, Skimble
Fern/BBC (2) - AM, Pippy
PBC (1) - WZ
WZ (1) - jboo
bryndy (2) - Paws, nyan
RL-KB (1) - Coffee
Moose (2) - Melby, RL-KB
Coffee ()
AM (1) - SAR
Stagg (1) - BBC

15/26
Deadline in ~2.5 hours (10pm Eastern/9pm Central)
 
On the whole AM feels pretty village to me, but I found this noteworthy from yesterday. AM switches off Coop and onto Moose without giving any reasoning . . .

Animal Midwife said:
Unlynch Coop
Lynch MOOSE
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. . . except this later:

Animal Midwife said:
Been gone for hours since initial unlynch.
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And then posts this is response to Genny's vote (which also had no discussion):

genny said:
lynch coffee
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Animal Midwife said:
Why?
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The consistency is weird. She sticks with it though:

Animal Midwife said:
So an RNG vote < 90 minutes before lynch close?
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Regarding Jboo's response to why she was so fixated on the 'wolves behind the thread' theory:

Glammyre said:
lynch coffee

to add pressure and because I don't think Mixy is a good lynch.

Personally, I'm most suspicious of WildZoo at this time. I'm sort-of the opposite of jboo - I think one of the wolves got on the thread early to try and push opinion. It's weak, but out of the early leaders, cray and WildZoo were the ones whose logic I disagreed with most, and I think part of my read on Cray is posting style.
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johnnaboo said:
To clarify--I think that's a definitely possibility as well. I think at least one wolf is hiding
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Jboo is basically saying "there might be wolves already posting, but there might also be wolves not posting!' - I don't see why this clarification was needed, except that she felt she needed to cover her butt. It's still a weird comment to have repeated/clarified so frequently.

Crayola227 said:
Villagers can get a bit pushy, yes. I know in my case, I feel at my pushiest as a wolf. It never sits right for me to see a "villager" trying to run the village. I could be wrong on that gut feel, but it is a red flag in my book.

So yes, I find it all extremely wolfy. It seems to me that putting pressure on MA is the right thing to do here, period.
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This was posted 20 minutes before lynch closed yesterday. At that point, it's beyond putting pressure on someone. Mixy was going to be lynched unless a major change happened, and she wasn't expected back on the thread. It's really odd to justify wanting to put pressure on someone (rather than saying she wants to lynch her) at that point in the day.
 
Miranda Senft said:
You are a dangerous hydra. Calling you out for that shouldn't make me shady. It should make me honest and Kara knows this. And my reads being "not much", again...DAY 1.
I'm getting weird feels from Jboo based on her voting Mixy and not really answering AM's questioning. She didn't answer it to my satisfaction and seemed to avoid it!
And you know me, Kara, I am reactionary.
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Ok this is a little extreme.

I don't love hydras, but they are generally village if the mod is tweaking roles at all, for the sole reason that they are harder to read. The wording in this is pretty exaggerated. Not exactly confidence inspiring, because I seem to remember you using a lot of exclamation points as a wolf in the past.

And that last bit sounds like a straight up pocket attempt directed at Kara.
 
PippyPony said:
Ok this is a little extreme.

I don't love hydras, but they are generally village if the mod is tweaking roles at all, for the sole reason that they are harder to read. The wording in this is pretty exaggerated. Not exactly confidence inspiring, because I seem to remember you using a lot of exclamation points as a wolf in the past.

And that last bit sounds like a straight up pocket attempt directed at Kara.
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Kara and I wolfed together the last game. I know how dangerous she is as a wolf. A lot of what I posted was directed or influenced by her. The thing is, if she's a wolf, she can't hide behind inexperience in the game but Red can! In my first game, a lot of people initially came after me for claiming "noobiness" which it genuinely was but I didn't have a mentor helping me through. That's why I find it to be dangerous because they have the experience and the excuse! And I love exclamation points!!!!!!!!!
 
PippyPony said:
Maybe what I'm saying is that I would stay the **** away from that, given that people already side-eye me hard for being pushy when I'm wolfing. Lol
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PippyPony said:
Deep thoughts: and this is just because I have ego-centric logic and thus when I'm talking off the cuff like this I just assume the default of everyone thinks like me, until my brain catches up and I remember that other people aren't me 😛

Even deeper thoughts: I like WIFOM because I just want to wolf again, guys. I miss it. lol
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Is this the taboo "side comment about how much a villager I am because I'm totes not a wolf guys" comment Pip? 😉
 
PrincessButterCup said:
This was posted 20 minutes before lynch closed yesterday. At that point, it's beyond putting pressure on someone. Mixy was going to be lynched unless a major change happened, and she wasn't expected back on the thread. It's really odd to justify wanting to put pressure on someone (rather than saying she wants to lynch her) at that point in the day.
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It's actually also kind of contradictory in that she's saying she thinks the village shouldn't be pushy but she's kind of ...being pushy... in the exact same post, if I am reading that accurately.
 
Miranda Senft said:
Kara and I wolfed together the last game. I know how dangerous she is as a wolf. A lot of what I posted was directed or influenced by her. The thing is, if she's a wolf, she can't hide behind inexperience in the game but Red can! In my first game, a lot of people initially came after me for claiming "noobiness" which it genuinely was but I didn't have a mentor helping me through. That's why I find it to be dangerous because they have the experience and the excuse! And I love exclamation points!!!!!!!!!
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If we didn't know that they were a hydra, I'd agree with you. But we know that Kara is in her head, and Red doesn't have that excuse. Being a hydra =/= being a wolf pack.
 
I'm suspicious of BBC. She is being rather threatening in PM. It makes me wonder why she is so concerned...
 
Animal Midwife said:
Yesterday:

Today:
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Yeah, I have already read enough today, not going back to read Moose's reasonings for lynch/unlynch. Still think lynching off "timing" is beyond bizarre.

And, to me, for your Moose "feels" to have bled into today, it would mean you would be doing more than asking her one question +/- possibly continuing that lynch.
 
DVMDream said:
Yeah, I have already read enough today, not going back to read Moose's reasonings for lynch/unlynch. Still think lynching off "timing" is beyond bizarre.

And, to me, for your Moose "feels" to have bled into today, it would mean you would be doing more than asking her one question +/- possibly continuing that lynch.
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It's really isn't just timing as I've highlighted throughout today.
 
PippyPony said:
Maybe what I'm saying is that I would stay the **** away from that, given that people already side-eye me hard for being pushy when I'm wolfing. Lol
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What is it with people stating what they would or wouldn't do as a wolf this game? Cray was all over that earlier too. Quit evaluating yourself unless you are stating "as a wolf I would lie through my teeth", then by all means, continue on.
 
RedLauren said:
first post after being called out and voted for and she goes for the quiet noob who made herself an easy target



really shades the hydra and agree with kcough that it seems like not much and found the allie piece odd



found the jboo part odd as well as she did respond to AM



it was very reactionary and you had had very little useful contribution before that. You had enough time to throw out joke votes and joke unlynches but you couldn't get in useful contribution at the same time?

After consulting the voice in my head, I'm going to take her advice and
Unlynch Coffee
Lynch Moose

I understand now my misstep with not knowing what a read is and accidentally leading people to believe I was formulating them and then seemed like I ghosted.
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Thank you! An explanation. 😍
 
Oh that reminds me

Unlynch BBC

Barring some new information. Don't really see the point of lynching someone who's kinda sorta talking through other people but can't defend themselves on the thread.
 
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