StardeWW Valley - GAME THREAD

[Animal Midwife]

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@Animal Midwife how are you feeling about Dubz?

Neutral.

 

[Zenge142]

Neutral.

Can you share your thinking on a neutral read. I feel like it’s not a “neutral with no thoughts” but rather a “neutral, with a lot of conflicting thoughts” and I’d like to hear the fleshed out version, if you don’t mind.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Can you share your thinking on a neutral read. I feel like it’s not a “neutral with no thoughts” but rather a “neutral, with a lot of conflicting thoughts” and I’d like to hear the fleshed out version, if you don’t mind.

I want to see genny flipped because it's possible she TMI'd dubz's affiliation.

 

[Truenamer]

I want to see genny flipped because it's possible she TMI'd dubz's affiliation.

Too Much Information'd?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Too Much Information'd?

Yes.

 

[Zenge142]

I want to see genny flipped because it's possible she TMI'd dubz's affiliation.

Can you quote this for me?

 

[Zenge142]

So when I yeet you D1, you immediately assume I’m a wolf, but when Dubz does it, nbd?

@Animal Midwife ?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Can you quote this for me?

I’m guessing you get put on the naughty list? That makes me feel worse about AM, but I don’t know whether it’s because she falls into the village trap of wolf reading people who suspect her, or because she’s using the wolfy tactic of aggressively pursuing her detractors.

 

[SportPonies]

I want to see genny flipped because it's possible she TMI'd dubz's affiliation.

This is something I would be interested in testing, between my inability to read genny and my comments on dubz earlier.

 

[Zenge142]

This is something I would be interested in testing, between my inability to read genny and my comments on dubz earlier.

I’m not uninterested…

 

[Truenamer]

Yes.

I understand what the colloquial phrase "too much information" means, but not how you're using it in this context. Can someone help me understand how it's used in werewolf games? Genny "too much information'd" Dubz's affiliation?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I understand what the colloquial phrase "too much information" means, but not how you're using it in this context. Can someone help me understand how it's used in werewolf games? Genny "too much information'd" Dubz's affiliation?

It sounded like she already knew dubz was village.

 

[supershorty]

Pierre's General Store, Seed Aisle, Day 1 (Spring)

Crop	Seed Cost	Grow Time	Produce Sale Price
Parsnip	20g	Short (1 day cycle)	35g
Potato	50g	Intermediate (1 day + 1 night)	80g
Kale	70g	Intermediate	110g
Cauliflower	80g	Long (2 full cycles)	175g

Seeds are available in unlimited quantities and are immediately available for use after purchase.

Crops will be automatically sold when it is harvest time. Your money totals will be updated with your night results.

Just going to bump this back up and caution everyone to look carefully at the grow cycles before y'all get mad at me tomorrow morning when you get night results and don't have money you may be expecting to have immediately. There's a reason we made this first spring 3 days while all other seasons will be 2.

 

[justafluff]

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@bluestoat couldn’t help but think of you!

Spoiler: Stout

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[Zenge142]

@Animal Midwife do you have a vote tracker by chance?

 

[Zenge142]

As of page 10, I do not think Dana is a wolf.


It's now no longer a joke vote.

This is in reference to Sporty’s vote on Dubz. This comes about 10 minutes after another post of Sporty’s saying she’s on page 10.

I'm also on page 10

Here are all of Dubz’s Pg. 10 quotes:

Spoiler

And Alissa pinged me with it in Casino too.

I may have declared myself your unofficial dead manator

Me? Crafty? Whatever gave you that impression?

I'm not saying you're consciously giving them sketch points because they're noobs, I'm saying "newness" bias and inherent noob sketchiness often leads to early misreads.

And yes I said Dana triggered me, but I have true village and kdswg and stoat are still neutral, so not the same thing. Not saying you can't have sketch points for noobs at all, just saying if all the noobs and only the noobs have sketch points then to me it seems like there might be some unintended bias.

I realize this but seeing as I can't predict the future, I'm commenting on the information that is currently available to me 😉

At least posts like that help maintain my village read of him lol interested to see what @genny and @SportPonies think so far though

Compared to bowwling or her noob game?

 

[Zenge142]

We all know Zenge won't be voting until the last hour before close

Because you know I’m village?

In the world where we are actually dealing with Wolf!Dubz, this feels like a TMI slip.

 

[samac]

Because you know I’m village?

In the world where we are actually dealing with Wolf!Dubz, this feels like a TMI slip.

 

[Zenge142]

Sporty just feels the same to me as did last game when she was villaging so I'm trying to see what you guys mean when you talk about her not seeming right.

Does she? Does she really?
Here’s some quotes I pulled from last game:

Spoiler: Sporty D1 Bowling Quotes

I'm not sure how much I love these posts by alley. I know pbpa tends to be short and sweet, but a few of the comments make me tingly (Pippy quote, Vis comment), but a few of them also seem genuine.

okay maybe I like this alley post better.

This post feels iffy and opportunistic

unyeet mommy
yeet samac

doesn't feel villagey; weird tingles with her joke vote unyeet

Her "oh yeah guess I should unyeet my joke" followed by her expanation when I hmm'd it was weird.
Her explanation being "genny jumped off a joke vote which reminded me"

Original post sounded insincere, explanation is questionable given that there were several un-yoten jokes that she had seen at that point.

Solid analysis and contributions. Explanations for her votes are more fleshed out.

After ISOing her posts this game there’s nothing really similar.

Spoiler: Sporty D1 Stardeww

This is weird because I feel like samac "feels" about the same every game.

It wasn't and isn't real, though she doesn't sound quite like she did in the last couple games.
I'm not yet ready to yell about anal sticks though, given my history.

I know @WildZoo mentioned it but
I'm not getting a cubbie soul read at the point I'm at in reading, but I agree that he doesn't usually post in the manner he did early this game.
I haven't seen my angelic analysis child yet. I also haven't gotten wolfy vibes yet and I don't think it's time to vote him out.

all the sudden defense of cubs is making me queasy too. Like, I'm not ready to vote there but I'm also on page 10 and everyone else usually thinks he's wolfy so I'm confused. Y'all trying to perpetuate waffles?

As of page 10, I do not think Dana is a wolf.


It's now no longer a joke vote.

tone

inb4 Dubz says I can't tone read her.
But I have no strong wolf leans right now and a handful of people that I'm particularly not interested in yeeting, so I'm comfortable staying where I'm at for today.

Willing to reconsider the more I read, of course.

I don’t know what to tell you if you think I’m fakeclaiminf, samac.

Unyeet dubz
Yeet kds

What about these sound the same to you? I feel there’s a pretty stark contrast between one and the other both in terms of analysis of content and reasoning for vote placement.

 

[WildZoo]

Because you know I’m village?

In the world where we are actually dealing with Wolf!Dubz, this feels like a TMI slip.

Ah yes, because what we learned from last game is that only village!Zenge holds his vote

 

[Zenge142]

Ah yes, because what we learned from last game is that only village!Zenge holds his vote

I mean, in general the pattern was true though. It happened to not pan out last game, I shouldn’t get Village read for it.

But it doesn’t change the fact the the pattern exists that I tend to hold my vote when I’m village, and your comment only makes sense in the context that you’re assuming I’m village. Maybe too assuming…

I’m not ready to flip the table quite yet, but it pinged me as a possibility and I wanted to get it on the thread.

Don’t act like people shouldn’t be vigilant and paranoid about Wolf!Dubz possibilities!

 

[Zenge142]

Dude
It’s an hour to go
I get it
But all it does is cause more chaos

Based on the lack of chaos it caused, I reject your fear mongering about my chaotic ways.

 

[samac]

Based on the lack of chaos it caused, I reject your fear mongering about my chaotic ways.

THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT CHAOS

 

[WildZoo]

I mean, in general the pattern was true though. It happened to not pan out last game, I shouldn’t get Village read for it.

But it doesn’t change the fact the the pattern exists that I tend to hold my vote when I’m village, and your comment only makes sense in the context that you’re assuming I’m village. Maybe too assuming…

I’m not ready to flip the table quite yet, but it pinged me as a possibility and I wanted to get it on the thread.

Don’t act like people shouldn’t be vigilant and paranoid about Wolf!Dubz possibilities!

A little paranoia keeps me alive, I'm just confused about the thought process of it coming from that comment in particular. Putting aside that it was a joke, you are aware of the "tell" now, so I would assume that wolf!Zenge would be even more inclined to vote late.

 

[Zenge142]

THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT CHAOS

Not from my vote, or it’s timing.

 

[Zenge142]

A little paranoia keeps me alive, I'm just confused about the thought process of it coming from that comment in particular. Putting aside that it was a joke, you are aware of the "tell" now, so I would assume that wolf!Zenge would be even more inclined to vote late.

The fact that it was a joke is the crux of it though.

I think, as a joke, it only makes sense with the assumption that I’m village. But then that begs the question, what gives you the right to make that assumption?

I’m not quite ready to wolf read you for it, but it pinged me and I wanted to get my thoughts on it put down.

 

[samac]

The fact that it was a joke is the crux of it though.

I think, as a joke, it only makes sense with the assumption that I’m village. But then that begs the question, what gives you the right to make that assumption?

I’m not quite ready to wolf read you for it, but it pinged me and I wanted to get my thoughts on it put down.

I read her joke completely differently. Because you were wolf last game and held your vote the assumption would be you’re just going to always hold your vote.

 

[WildZoo]

The fact that it was a joke is the crux of it though.

I think, as a joke, it only makes sense with the assumption that I’m village. But then that begs the question, what gives you the right to make that assumption?

I’m not quite ready to wolf read you for it, but it pinged me and I wanted to get my thoughts on it put down.

I wasn't making that assumption at all Not at that time anyway. But you're entitled to your pings.

 

[Zenge142]

I read her joke completely differently. Because you were wolf last game and held your vote the assumption would be you’re just going to always hold your vote.

And that’s not an unreasonable or unfair interpretation. Again, I’m not using it to wolf read her, but it doesn’t really seem like a good idea to keep the things that ping me to myself, and I wanted to make a note of this.

 

[WildZoo]

Does she? Does she really?
Here’s some quotes I pulled from last game:
Solid analysis and contributions. Explanations for her votes are more fleshed out.

After ISOing her posts this game there’s nothing really similar.


What about these sound the same to you? I feel there’s a pretty stark contrast between one and the other both in terms of analysis of content and reasoning for vote placement.

I want to actually read this closely in a bit, but this doesn't look like enough posts to be all the ones from this game, is it just the ones that actually had content?

 

[Zenge142]

I want to actually read this closely in a bit, but this doesn't look like enough posts to be all the ones from this game, is it just the ones that actually had content?

It’s not all of them. From this game It’s most of what I considered content/relevant to the analysis. An ISO of Sporty’s posts this game so far is a super fast read if you want to skim through it, I think you’ll arrive at the same conclusion I did, especially when compared to Bowwling.

 

[Truenamer]

Based on the lack of chaos it caused, I reject your fear mongering about my chaotic ways.

That was a very chaotic vote close

 

[Zenge142]

That was a very chaotic vote close

Not from my vote, or it’s timing.

 

[samac]

okay. Rounds are gonna start at 9 and will probably go past 10 so I don’t know if I’ll be back around night close. I wanted to wait until after night close to post some reads, but I don’t think I’ll be around.

I’m going to be very surprised if I live through tonight. I villaged too hard too fast.

My top choice for vote is sporty. Genny is on the list. Activity is definitely NAI for her. I’d probably turn to dubz for the genny way.
If I’m looking at the noobs I’m still interested in kaydawg. Possibly true, I don’t think he’s as village as others make him out to be. I don’t think it’s blue.

Vet wise I feel okay about zenges so far.
The only way I see dubz being a wolf is if exactly blue is the other wolf and she moved to protect her.
AM feels okay, AM and dubz are definitely not W/W.

I do not have an opinion at this point on barks.
Bob hasn’t been here enough for me to have an opinion.
I don’t really have an opinion on shelty yet either, maybe slight village lean?

I suspect 2 wolves and I’m not ruling out that conversion exists to get to 3. I’m saying the bad word.

 

[Zenge142]

Possibly true, I don’t think he’s as village as others make him out to be.

Yeah, there’s an argument to be made here I think.

 

[samac]

Yeah, there’s an argument to be made here I think.

Him pointing out I looked like a snack by questioning someone being vanilla in a role madness game set off alarm bells more than the pings I had from him earlier.

 

[Zenge142]

Him pointing out I looked like a snack by questioning someone being vanilla in a role madness game set off alarm bells more than the pings I had from him earlier.

I actually think that’s his most villagey post though. Because I feel like a wolf is more likely to say it in wolf chat instead of on thread.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Why not try to redirect them to yeet someone other than yourself though?

I can understand this logic and have been bashed by saying same things as Stoat. I get where she is coming from. But I have learned, if you know you are village then vote elsewhere.

WHAT WAS I ON WHEN I SAID THIS

Why you have that so ready @Dana_May_B? That was a fast ass quote response.

Does this mean we have to take everything you say with a grain of salt now?

It makes sense if you consider driving motivators. Mine isn't to win if it's a game, it's to have fun and for others to get to have fun too. Someone getting heat cause of jokes fits into such a morality as against the moral paradigm. I just care more about having fun. If it's real life, I'd be much more driven to win, and then more inclined to not even interfere besides double checking the logic of those involved and the information the decision is based on.

Yes, in a fashion... Let me get back to this. I am focusing on villager reads right now because wolves aren't falling out of the woodwork for me, so it is this way that I'm looking for wolves right now.

Reading through, I like the progression of thoughts for Stoat.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I'm a little frustrated. All my quotes are back home on my ipad. I thought sdn saved previous quotes. So now I have to go reread previous pages with 10 pages still ahead! Lol

Sorry I wasn't around yesterday. c' est la vie

I will get more organized thoughts today. Everything is fragmented. I do know I saw a very icky post by sporty so...

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Yeet sporty

 

[supershorty]

Yeet sporty

Excuse me sir, it is night and therefore votes must be contingencies.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Excuse me sir, it is night and therefore votes must be contingencies.

I NEVER SAID YEET SPORTY!

 

[samac]

I actually think that’s his most villagey post though. Because I feel like a wolf is more likely to say it in wolf chat instead of on thread.

Nah.
Said it here first before realizing.
Then talked about it in wolf chat.
We’ll see if I live, my outlook might change.
But my favorite pair right now is true and sporty.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Oh, yeah I did. Sorry. I was channeling Samac!

 

[Zenge142]

Yeet sporty

I NEVER SAID YEET SPORTY!

 

[BobLoblaw78]

contingency yeet sporty

 

[samac]

I can understand this logic and have been bashed by saying same things as Stoat. I get where she is coming from. But I have learned, if you know you are village then vote elsewhere.

Does this mean we have to take everything you say with a grain of salt now?

Reading through, I like the progression of thoughts for Stoat.

You should take about 70% of what I say with a grain of salt, but when I start shouting about yeeting people repeatedly then it’s time to listen.

 

[samac]

Oh, yeah I did. Sorry. I was channeling Samac!

Wat
I don’t yeet incorrectly good sir

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Wat
I don’t yeet incorrectly good sir

This was what I was referencing. The fact you said you didn't say something and then had to have your own words read back to you like Col. Jessup.

SAMAC DID NOT WISH WE WERE WOLFING TOGETHER
THAT WAS CUBS
SAMAC NEVER WISHES SHE WAS WOLFING

 

[Zenge142]

Nah.
Said it here first before realizing.
Then talked about it in wolf chat.
We’ll see if I live, my outlook might change.
But my favorite pair right now is true and sporty.

Yeah, I mean, I’m not about to dive down the rabbit hole of “only a villager would have done this! A wolf would have done XYZ!”

But the thought of posting it at all, instead of being all sneaky like “Ooooooo I know who we should kill!!! Insert Old SDN sneaky here” I see as a more village leaning possibility than wolf.

But it could have certainly played out like you theorize.