Ok, re-read complete.
Working on my reads of people currently.
kara - her vote seems a bit random. i've never played with her, but some posts put me off.
zen - too good for me to ever trust her. lol. could go either way.
snowshoe - we seem to be agreeing a lot - like on the lyra thing, which throws me off. usually my thoughts don't align with someone that well, so could be trying to make me trust them.
MJ - I just thought was being regular ole MJ. To me, plays the same as either wolf/villager. could go either way for me. i believe the role though.
lotf - just seems super busy with a new baby
vmh and you - seem fine.
wz - feels off. nothing really to go off of though.
lyra - believe role, don't believe ability. i don't want to lynch her.
i really have nothing solid. just general feelings.
There was like nothing definitive about this post. I get the feeling of not having a lot of really solid opinions at certain points during the game, but the amount of hedging in this post is pretty sketch.
You've played with him way more times than I have. I guess I just always think MJ acts like that - villager or wolf. Lol. But I'm relying on memory and my memory is not that reliable.
Then we have more hedging --> more sketch.
I guess I don't entirely understand why having consistency in a role claim is more village than wolf (imo role consistency is kind of a neutral thing and doesn't lean someone one way or the other for me). It's easy for a wolf to toss out on thread that their role is minor, and also easy for them to pick a cover role early in the game and just roll with it. I was getting thrown by the Sarafina claim because she's just a very minor character and only had like one line in the whole movie.
I don't know if wildebeests are super minor. While there aren't any named wildebeests in the movies, I'm sure that everyone vividly recalls the scene in the movie where the wildebeests trample Mufasa to death
VMH is in my village camp because of posts like these -- she's doing analysis that is highly consistent with how she approaches things as a villager.
You can't really compare one person's village or wolf attitude to another. So the comparison to genny or AM means next to nothing.
MJ's behavior last night was consistent with MJ's wolf behavior. 100%. However, I can't 100% say that it is inconsistent with his village behavior...just that in recent memory that tone has happened when he's being lynched as a wolf. Will have to hunt down the last few times he was lynched as a villager.
So yeah had to go back to September to find the last time MJ was a villager. Oddly enough the last couple times he was village (Animorphs, Under the Sea, Magical, Minecraft, DRoP) he was never, as far as I can tell, in serious danger of being lynched. I can't find a single village game in the last year where he responded the way he did last night, whereas it has been his MO for several wolf games. Hell I can't even find the last time he was lynched as a villager.
The only conclusion I can come to is that we all have him figured out and he must be a wolf now.
That's why I was hoping to find a more recent village game but...
I've only got the data I've got. I concede that the reaction may just be the way you react in general to being lynched these days. Just no way to confirm that.
You know I still love you and I'm sorry you've been having such a rough time <3
With the exception of the bolded line, which was a bit weird in terms of phrasing, WZ has been reading mostly village to me. I suppose there's always a chance that she is doing the "research" thing again to seem village, but in the context of her "sorry if I'm wrong I <3 you anyways" comments around MJ, it just sounds like regular Dubz. Still slight village lean, even if she doesn't like it.
LYNCH MJ due to everything that has been said. Keeping the same mode as other games that he has been a wolf. And even though he was standing up for me last night his comment brought a lot of attention due to how it was worded
Ok, with Dubz, the statements about MJ being a wolf because he was adhering to his wolf MO rang true to me, because it was also completely consistent with my personal experience. But in contrast, you've now used
other people's description of players' "typical behavior" multiple times in casting your lynch vote. If you are going back and re-reading other games on your own, then fine. But if you're just using "oh so-and-so said this person always plays like xyz, so I'm going to take their word for it," then that's lazy play and it's going to get you into trouble eventually.
I agree that MJ was uh, grumpy, for lack of a better word, last night. And he does do that as a wolf and I'm suspicious there but I want to discuss others too.....
Mostly kata.... so she doesn't post much, finally posts a bit today and she's almost defending MJ?? No other comments from her really. No other reads... I'd rather place pressure here... so
Lynch kata
Margaritas aside, this is what I was talking about when I said you were posting fluff. It sounded different from your regular approach.
Hmm, but you're ok with Lyra's vanillager claim? I haven't seen you call her out. Interesting
This is more consistent with your typical punchiness, as are your comments today, but I'm still wary of you because I don't underestimate you as a wolf, and there have been some things that have happened so far this game with the wolf kills that make me wonder if you are driving the bus.
Ok damn it, I'm making my freaking spreadsheet finally. Who claimed/was the wildebeasts? Cause that would be a suspicion for wolf for me.
(I am not on a freaking computer people. You will not often get the long ISO posts on individual players nor the full lists of where I place people on my leaning reads out of me because I don't have the time or patience to go through all that ish on my phone and I will forget people. So if you feel like I don't contribute enough because I don't play copycat with the new post style, even as I (as promised) slowly increase play and involvement, suck it up buttercup. I will still find the freaking wolves eventually and have a damned good time doing it, I will just continue to ignore the comments that whine about me not posting in the proper style.
I don't think anyone is expecting epic novels from every player (see my earlier comment about how that's come back to bite me) but it would be nice if you, like, at least knew who
died.
I'm not liking the lack of participation from kata or LotF and could vote there next if they don't step things up and start providing some reads, but I want to crack the MJ egg first.
This was a weird comment since I didn't think you had been pushing on MJ very much at all. Now all of a sudden yesterday you wanted to crack an egg? Quick escalation there. You are still in this grey zone in my mind where I believe your role claim but I do not like your posts. Wolf lean.
I'm not sure I entirely understand your question. Are you asking how I felt about MJ yesterday? Because I can't say I really remember. Initially I remember being unsure of his role claim until Zen quoted his post from earlier, then I believed it. When he posted about trusting my judgement, my first thought was "Boy, that comment there is gonna get you lynched!" because other people were expressing concern about me at the time. Then I couldn't decide if he was trying to pocket me or if he was really a wolf and hoping that when he got lynched as a wolf it would cast shade in my direction. If he's a wolf, I'm inclined to believe he was given a cover role and didn't make that up, it's also possible he is telling the truth. Those are my current feels disregarding WZ's current reads on him.
What is this post even saying? You didn't believe his role, but then you did, and then you thought he was a villager but then you thought he was a wolf, but actually you thought he was a villager, despite someone else thinking he was a wolf? What?
The above posts from the above people all came off weird to me when I was trying to read back through.
Lotf's post seemed to be calling MJ out that he needed to be playing more and felt forced in a sketchy way like some of her other posts that I've read...
Really that's the ONLY conclusion? idk this came off super sketch to me (though overall I would say that WZ hasn't read overly wolfy to me before this post)
I've been defending cheat early on because she seemed to be playing how she has tended to in the past. Now that she's made it farther than she has usually, though, I feel like random posts like this that are just agreeing with what everyone else has already said are making me feel less convinced of her villager status.
I cannot pin point something specific, but I should say that I'm starting to have feels for Kara...
3M still in solid village territory.
Sigh I know I should have.. I was playing it like a basic game when I should have been playing it more like a theme game (not that that probably makes sense to anyone but me) Anyways I'm back on track I hope. (Also I think I have a trend of unintentionally screwing kc over most games - sorry kc)
Okay Everyone: now I know this is mechanics, but what are your thoughts on conversions, chaos, neutral being in the game? And what do you think chaos would be if in game? The main characters seem pretty black and white so maybe a resource?
Snowy is now moving more village for me with comments like these over the past couple of days -- she's starting to sound like a frustrated version of her villager self who has been wrong as opposed to wolfy. Moved up to neutral in my list.
Still holding onto that feel for pippy and I'm not as confident in trilt as I feel like I usually am by this point in the game.
at myself. Forgot that MJ talked about his role earlier in the game.
