The WWatering Hole Bar Grand Opening - Game Thread.

[Ceke2002]

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I'd rather you do it sooner than later, because it gives me tingly feels when someone misrepresents things on the thread to a player who asks for a summary.

Okay, my bad, I misread a post from Kam as supporting Genny and it turns out it wasn't. Thank you for asking me to summarise, and go back and double check things, because this now puts Kam back into my 'possible villager' list.

This was the post where I thought she was supporting Genny as a villager, before jumping on a bandwagon. I can see now I misread this.

I wasn't feeling Genny yesterday, but I don't think that's how I would react in her situation as a villager.

I'd definitely switch to PBC to save myself, but earlier in that last 30, not timed a minute before close. As a wolf I've definitely pulled the vote flip at 9:59--you want to hold onto the swap as long as possible to assess whether you need to use it, reduce risk someone sees it as sketchy and reacts with a counter swap, etc. Am just generally more cautious/calculated as a wolf up for lynch than as a villager and this could fall in that wagon.

Will wait for Snowy to weigh in.

 

[raf2769]

this is the second time this game I feel like you were grasping at straws to make someone else look sketch, ceke.
first was the "britzen is playing too well thing"
now this kam situation.
not sure what to think of it...

 

[raf2769]

oh plus that weird STL message thing --- make that 3 times ceke has made nonsketchy things try to make people look sketch this game

 

[raf2769]

still want to see how snowy cracks today, but I'd be interested in hearing what other people are thinking about ceke

 

[Ceke2002]

this is the second time this game I feel like you were grasping at straws to make someone else look sketch, ceke.
first was the "britzen is playing too well thing"
now this kam situation.
not sure what to think of it...

I still stand by the britzen thoughts, but yes Kam was an honest misreading of posts. I was quite prepared to lynch Genny on Day 1, she was way up on my wolf list, I chose Britzen instead based on feels for reasons already explained. I even said I thought Genny's defensive reaction marked her as a potential wolf, and if I had been awake to see more of Genny's interactions on Day 2 I absolutely would have swapped my lynch vote over to her. Now I've got another equally potential wolf in my lynch sites, so it's not exactly like I'm giving wolves a free pass by trying to manufacture sketch and distract fellow villages from the main prize.

My current potential wolf list is Snowy and Rabbot. My neutral/chaos lean is STL. My neutral but might be leaning more wolf is Crayola and LIS (just feels, nothing concrete).

 

[SummerTheLynx]

Now @PippyPony if we wanted to maximize information gain, that involves minimizing entropy, which would mean taking out ceke right now (hence why I don't use information gain as a means of choosing my lynch target).

I think I saw multiple people on snowy already. Snowy is my top person, but cyndia is up there as well, so I will stick with:

***********lynch cyndia************

To maintain some discussion for today

 

[Ceke2002]

Now @PippyPony if we wanted to maximize information gain, that involves minimizing entropy, which would mean taking out ceke right now (hence why I don't use information gain as a means of choosing my lynch target).

I think I saw multiple people on snowy already. Snowy is my top person, but cyndia is up there as well, so I will stick with:

***********lynch cyndia************

To maintain some discussion for today

Reasons for Cyndia lynch? I'm sticking with my Snowy vote, and Rabbot is high on my list as well, but what's the reasoning for Cyndia (I'd like to be able to take a look/hear from others for future lynch references). I will take what you say with a grain of salt though, because as per your own advice if I don't at least suspect you of being Chaos or a Wolf then I'm apparently not playing right. 😉

Anyone else want to summarise feels on Cyndia as well?

 

[tartesos]

*******

Let us all spike our drinks as Romeo and Juliet and then have s big orgy in the afterlife....
there's boob and d**k picks in dead chat.

*********


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[Ceke2002]

Re my alleged sketch creating, which I could see that people would see as a wolf move to distract from actual wolf targets: This is the first game in a while where I've felt well enough to play properly. The last few games I participated in, I was seriously all over the place and playing really badly (long story short: Started going into the early stages of another depression with psychotic features cycle, hence lot of scattered thoughts and distractions). Now that I'm on medication, the zombified sleep issue not withstanding, I am a lot more focused and I'm trying really hard to play this game properly instead of the disaster zone of a player I've been in recent prior games. So I'm studying people's posts, trying to get a feel/instinct for anything that doesn't seem right, and taking other players remarks/comments on board as well. Rather than trying to create sketch, my objective here is to drink booze and catch wolves, and I just ran out of grog.

 

[SummerTheLynx]

Reasons for Cyndia lynch? I'm sticking with my Snowy vote, and Rabbot is high on my list as well, but what's the reasoning for Cyndia (I'd like to be able to take a look/hear from others for future lynch references). I will take what you say with a grain of salt though, because as per your own advice if I don't at least suspect you of being Chaos or a Wolf then I'm apparently not playing right. 😉

Anyone else want to summarise feels on Cyndia as well?

It's about placement of votes on day one lynch, and there's a way, I feel, that she posts as a wolf which is a bit distinct from the way she posts as a villager, and I had that feeling in the pit of my stomach on the read back from day one. Add that to nothing contributory yesterday to change my mind. Aka, I more am trying to get her to talk rather than hide back in the shadows, and she may make that feeling go away. But if she's allowed to stay in the background and not talking, then no way to find out.

I am fine and happy with people finding me suspicious for a good reason, or honestly for no reason at all. It's more when someone uses a joke post as reasoning that I roll my eyes a bit.

 

[Ceke2002]

*******

Let us all spike our drinks as Romeo and Juliet and then have s big orgy in the afterlife....
there's boob and d**k picks in dead chat.

*********


Sent from my iPhone using SDN mobile

Juliette didn't die from a spiked drink though, the potion she drank was only meant to give her the appearance of death. It was romeo who drank poison, Juliet stabbed herself in the heart, "Oh happy dagger, this is thy sheath, there rust and let me die". But if we're going to go Shakespearean we could all take turns trying to suck poison off each other's lips, "O churl, drunk all, and left no friendly drop. To help me after? I will kiss thy lips. Haply some poison yet doth hang on them."

Okay, back to our usual programming. 😀

 

[Ceke2002]

It's about placement of votes on day one lynch, and there's a way, I feel, that she posts as a wolf which is a bit distinct from the way she posts as a villager, and I had that feeling in the pit of my stomach on the read back from day one. Add that to nothing contributory yesterday to change my mind. Aka, I more am trying to get her to talk rather than hide back in the shadows, and she may make that feeling go away. But if she's allowed to stay in the background and not talking, then no way to find out.

I am fine and happy with people finding me suspicious for a good reason, or honestly for no reason at all. It's more when someone uses a joke post as reasoning that I roll my eyes a bit.

Fair enough, and yes my suspicion has moved off you since I realised that was a joke post. I will look into Cyndia further, but like I said my money is right on Snowy for this lynch. I find it a little too coincidental that Snowy just happened to mention Genny's exact ability when neither of them were ever in a position to PM with one another unless Snowy was also in the wolf chat.

 

[SummerTheLynx]

Fair enough, and yes my suspicion has moved off you since I realised that was a joke post. I will look into Cyndia further, but like I said my money is right on Snowy for this lynch. I find it a little too coincidental that Snowy just happened to mention Genny's exact ability when neither of them were ever in a position to PM with one another unless Snowy was also in the wolf chat.

Where is that post where she mentions gennys ability? And definitely not on same group on day 1 or day 2?

 

[Ceke2002]

Where is that post where she mentions gennys ability? And definitely not on same group on day 1 or day 2?

Go back a page, I quoted it. I've also gone through and checked all group positions for day and night and as far as I can see Genny and Snowy were never in the same PM group. Check it out for yourself, but on top of the other feels for Snowy that people are getting I think it's pretty suss.

 

[PippyPony]

Yeah I may not end up here, but

Lynch Cyndia

again, for aforementioned reasons.

 

[Ceke2002]

Day 1 - Snowy in 'Shots' group, Genny in 'should've stayed home'

a @Trilt and @Melchizedek production (with @Filly Bay's assistance)

Come one, come all, to the grand opening of SDN's newest bar; the Watering Hole! The bartenders are hired, stools installed, mixers on their way and we're only days from show time. The only thing missing?

The booze!

_ _ __ ___ ____ ______ __________ ______ ____ ___ __ _ _

​

Trilt and I will be your bartenders extraordinaire! After spending years traveling the globe, sampling all the finest beer and spirits, tending bar for the rich and famous, and just generally getting drunk hydrated, we have brought our experience and talents to all of you here at SDN! We are slated for our Grand Opening soon, but there's still a lot to finish up before we're ready for opening day. This is where you all come in! As bottles on our shelves, you all are our inventory. You'll be helping us prep for opening day, and hopefully help tone down all the neurotic pre-health students on this site!


But we have a problem....inventory keeps disappearing, property keeps getting damaged, the grill keeps breaking, and all manner of other hi-jinks abound. Help us find out who is trying to keep us from opening, so that we can start serving the masses!

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Rules

1. PM’s are permitted within groups, and other Mod-confirmed means. Please include Mods in PM’s, I’m doing this for my own entertainment above all.
2. Ability actions are not restricted to those in your group.
3. Editing for clarity or grammar is allowed. No changes to content or lynch votes.
4. No quoting Mod PM’s. Summarize, lie, put words in our mouths, whatever, just no quoting.
5. Please don’t make strategy posts after lynch/night close.
6. No scamming the game. If you think it might be illegal, check with the mods.
7. Besides D1 (because I have an exam) I will attempt to lynch tally every couple of hours and more frequently toward lynch close. Brownie points and STL-Gold* to anyone who helps in this endeavor.
8. Lynch close at 2200 EST and Night close at 0600 EST

*STL-Gold is like leprechaun gold from Harry Potter. Its worth nothing and disappears after a few hours.

Unless otherwise told, you are a Villager, now get lynching!
D1 Starts now. Lynch Closes 10/27/2017 @ 2200 EST


Roster

I’ll come out for ONE drink
1. @LetItSnow

Shots? SHOTS!
2. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo
3. @SnowshoeDog143
4. @rabbott1971
5. @PrincessButterCup

Awkward First Date
6. @Kam325
7. @DVMDream

What Happened Last Night?
8. @SkiOtter
9. @Ceke2002
10. @Crayola227
11. @finnickthedog

I Knew I Should Have Stayed Home
12. @SummerTheLynx
13. @genny
14. @WildZoo
15. @Cyndia

Winos
16. @Jilary
17. @allieh8607
18. @raf2769

Whiskey Aficionados
19. @Animal Midwife
20. @tartesos
21. @LadyOtheFarm

Trying to Recreate the College Days
22. @britzen
23. @PippyPony
24. @mmmdreamerz



Dead:
Mel’s soul, hopes, and dreams. But what else is new?

Night 1/Day 2 - Snowy and Genny still in the same positions, ie not in the same group

Trilt and I were invited to an industry night last night and ended up having a few too many with the other bartenders on main st. Someone didn’t like the fact that we showed up to work hungover and late. They took out their frustrations on poor @Animal Midwife who was found smashed on the floor. No more will we be able to savor her pumpkin flavor. Way to go, y'all ruined fall for us.

Spoiler: Dead is

AM - Southern Tier Pumking Beer - who was so basic with her pumpkin flavor, that she had to post in the most ridiculous fashion.

Good news though! A heavenly force pervaded the bar and wept tears at the wrongful death of PBC yesterday. "Why? whyyyy? WHHHHHYYY?" They drunkenly cried. Their tears fell into PBC's empty bottle and by their grace PBC was resurrected!

Welcome back @PrincessButterCup to the game!

But it looks like Trilt and I weren't the only ones making bad decisions last night! @SkiOtter and @SummerTheLynx were found in the closet together

@tartesos unfortunately was found dead this morning, someone had cracked his bottle and watched his delicousness slowly leak out.

Spoiler: Dead is:

Tartesos - Malibu "Rum" - Vanillager for now, but had so much to live for, so much to offer!

Because the mods are ever so willing to oblige to a N1 mod kill:

In true spirit of "going out for JUST ONE drink," @LetItsSnow ended up the most drunk hydrated at the bar last night. In spectacular fashion, he finished off @PippyPony, @finnickthedog, and @britzen, leaving their liquorless, lifeless bottles strewn about. Stumbling around on the shelf, he lost his balance and @WildZoo grabbed on to save him from falling to the floor and shattering. Alas! LIS took Dubz over the edge with him.

Spoiler: Dead are:

JK no one because Trilt dove heroically and saved the bottles from hitting the floor, while I restocked the drinks that LIS finished off.



p.s. Only because Trilt wouldn’t let me liberally mod-kill nearly a quarter of the roster. :|

p.p.s. Totally all just mod-flair btw.

It is now Day 2. Day will close at 2200 EST tonight

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Roster

I’ll come out for ONE drink
1. @LetItSnow

Shots? SHOTS!
2. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo
3. @SnowshoeDog143
4. @rabbott1971
5. @PrincessButterCup - Maker's Mark Whiskey

Awkward First Date
6. @Kam325
7. @DVMDream

What Happened Last Night?
9. @Ceke2002
10. @Crayola227
11. @finnickthedog

I Knew I Should Have Stayed Home
13. @genny
14. @WildZoo
15. @Cyndia

Winos
16. @Jilary
17. @allieh8607
18. @raf2769

Whiskey Aficionados
21. @LadyOtheFarm
22. @britzen

Trying to Recreate the College Days
23. @PippyPony
24. @mmmdreamerz

Do You Want Me to Make You Breakfast?
8. @SkiOtter
12. @SummerTheLynx

Spoiler: Dead

19. @Animal Midwife - Southern Tier Pumking Beer
20. @tartesos - Malibu "Rum"

During lynch cycle when Genny was lynched as a wolf, Snowy made this post:

lol okay well my comment I just posted about not having original thoughts on your genny vote is out with this. Um my thing said something about feeling slightly safe as well as other stuff so I was thinking more of a jailer which is more of a village ability.

Result of Genny's lynch: Genny revealed as someone who could jail a person as a night action.

The drinks were annoyed today. They lost a cherished member of their crew and someone had to pay. Whipped up into frenzy they rounded on @genny
“YOU LYNCHED A VILLAGER YESTERDAY! Your last minute vote was a costly mistake!” They cried in outrage.

“Muahahahahah OR WAS IT?” Laughed Genny.
The group banded together and tossed Genny into the trash.

Spoiler: Dead is

Genny - Jack Daniels Whiskey - who could jail one person each night

It is now Night 2. Night ends @0600. Get your actions in!

 

[PippyPony]

Ceke, I still think you're misinterpreting posts.

Again, this has zero bearing on my opinion of snowy because I think she's sketchy af this game, but that's normal extrapolation she's doing there, imo.

 

[PippyPony]

I was able to ask the mods 2 questions last night (seems like someone bought me a double! 😉😉)

I asked:
What is the ratio of players per faction in this game?
And
What is the maximum number of affiliation changes allowed in this game

The answers I got back were kinda drunk, but basically said:
- the ratio is 1/5 (aka 20%), with one chaos and one neutral
- there is one conversion

 

[Ceke2002]

Ceke, I still think you're misinterpreting posts.

Again, this has zero bearing on my opinion of snowy because I think she's sketchy af this game, but that's normal extrapolation she's doing there, imo.

But to come up with the exact ability, and then use that to try and swing towards 'that's more of a village ability' when Genny is looking to be lynched? Add that on top of what others have noticed as well, and that's pretty damning to me. My vote is still going to be going to Snowy. Maybe if she'd said 'blocker' or 'silencer' I could see it as extrapolating, but again she mentioned Genny's exact ability.

 

[Animal Midwife]

**********************************************
The Dead's Unofficial Lynch Tally

Kam () -
Snowy (3) - raf, WZ, Ceke
Cyndia (2) - STL, Pippy

5/20
lynch close in ~ 11 hours
**********************************************

 

[Ceke2002]

I was able to ask the mods 2 questions last night (seems like someone bought me a double! 😉😉)

I asked:
What is the ratio of players per faction in this game?
And
What is the maximum number of affiliation changes allowed in this game

The answers I got back were kinda drunk, but basically said:
- the ratio is 1/5 (aka 20%), with one chaos and one neutral
- there is one conversion

There is one conversion? Do we take that as meaning a conversion has already happened? If so then is it not common for rezzes to be converts? For future reference should we be looking in PBC's direction?

 

[PippyPony]

But to come up with the exact ability, and then use that to try and swing towards 'that's more of a village ability' when Genny is looking to be lynched? Add that on top of what others have noticed as well, and that's pretty damning to me. My vote is still going to be going to Snowy. Maybe if she'd said 'blocker' or 'silencer' I could see it as extrapolating, but again she mentioned Genny's exact ability.

Right, but that's like, a logical guess to make from those night results.

I 100% agree that they are probably in cahoots, it's just that I also don't think it's beyond Snowy's reasoning capabilities to come up with that as the most logical ability.

 

[PippyPony]

I was able to ask the mods 2 questions last night (seems like someone bought me a double! 😉😉)

I asked:
What is the ratio of players per faction in this game?
And
What is the maximum number of affiliation changes allowed in this game

The answers I got back were kinda drunk, but basically said:
- the ratio is 1/5 (aka 20%), with one chaos and one neutral
- there is one conversion

And y'all go ahead and try to lynch me* for asking the same thing my manatee did in the last game. Still salty about that nonsense 😛


(*joke. Please don't lynch me.)

 

[Ceke2002]

Right, but that's like, a logical guess to make from those night results.

I 100% agree that they are probably in cahoots, it's just that I also don't think it's beyond Snowy's reasoning capabilities to come up with that as the most logical ability.

Fair enough, still seems hell suspect to me, but I can see your point as well.

Looking to future lynches, what are your reasonings on Cyndia? Are they the same as the summary STL gave, or do you have extra feels to add?

 

[PippyPony]

There is one conversion? Do we take that as meaning a conversion has already happened? If so then is it not common for rezzes to be converts? For future reference should we be looking in PBC's direction?

We don't know if it has already happened.

I think it would be a bit too obvious to convert PBC, but perhaps that's just me.

But I asked the question that way in case there was another mechanism for conversion available, like rez-as-wolf or chaos convert. I'd guess it's a pretty straightforward single village --> wolfy conversion, though.

 

[PippyPony]

Looking to future lynches, what are your reasonings on Cyndia? Are they the same as the summary STL gave, or do you have extra feels to add?

I've detailed my own feelz for Cyndia in multiple previous posts. And hey -- I lynched there first, don't give him all the credit 😛

 

[LetItSnow]

I was able to ask the mods 2 questions last night (seems like someone bought me a double! 😉😉)

I asked:
What is the ratio of players per faction in this game?
And
What is the maximum number of affiliation changes allowed in this game

The answers I got back were kinda drunk, but basically said:
- the ratio is 1/5 (aka 20%), with one chaos and one neutral
- there is one conversion

Did they say 1/5 (1:4) or 1:5 (1/6)?

People tend to get confused about ratios.

I'd love to hear from Ceke why she's mentioned me twice. I definitely would hard-bus someone, but if you think I bussed Genny <that> hard ... well, I'll just take it as a compliment. But I didn't.

I like the Snowy lynch, but I also like the Cyndia lynch because of the early STL/Pippy votes. If Cyndia flips village I think it clears one of STL/Pippy (just don't know which) - I don't see them both piling on a villager as a wolf; they're too cagey for that. If she flips wolf, I think it still clears at least one of them (still don't know which) because I don't see them both hard-bussing a fellow wolf. 🙂 STL is playing more village STL now that he's showed up, at least. Pippy I struggle to read. I lean them both village, but...

I really want to go back and look at D1 votes - I vaguely recall a few changes that probably are questionable given Genny's wolfiness. But I can't do it until tomorrow. Work calls today/tonight.

lynch Cyndia

 

[LetItSnow]

We don't know if it has already happened.

I think it would be a bit too obvious to convert PBC, but perhaps that's just me.

But I asked the question that way in case there was another mechanism for conversion available, like rez-as-wolf or chaos convert. I'd guess it's a pretty straightforward single village --> wolfy conversion, though.

And also asked it in a way that covers it whether it's already been done or not. 👍

I agree regarding PBC. I would expect the wolves to hold onto the conversion for a little while. I read an early rez as a village rezzer not wanting to have me rant at them mid-game when they die not having used the ability.

 

[PippyPony]

Did they say 1/5 (1:4) or 1:5 (1/6)?

People tend to get confused about ratios.

Yeah...good question.

They said 1/5 as in a fifth of vodka. And then said "like...20%". That comes out to 4.8, which rounded up seems awfully high to me, so I'm guessing they meant 4 out of 24 😉

 

[Ceke2002]

Did they say 1/5 (1:4) or 1:5 (1/6)?

People tend to get confused about ratios.

I'd love to here from Ceke why she's mentioned me twice. I definitely would hard-bus someone, but if you think I bussed Genny <that> hard ... well, I'll just take it as a compliment. But I didn't.

I really want to go back and look at D1 votes - I vaguely recall a few changes that probably are questionable given Genny's wolfiness. But I can't do it until tomorrow. Work calls today/tonight.

I like the Snowy lynch, but I also like the Cyndia lynch because of the early STL/Pippy votes. If Cyndia flips village I think it clears one of STL/Pippy (just don't know which) - I don't see them both piling on a villager as a wolf; they're too cagey for that. If she flips wolf, I think it still clears at least one of them (still don't know which) because I don't see them both hard-bussing a fellow wolf. 🙂 I don't have particular reads on either of them, but STL is playing more village STL now that he's showed up, at least. Pippy I struggle to read.

So: lynch Cyndia

Nothing majorly specific, just feels at the moment. I've checked back through your posts though, and it's reading more village than wolf to me at the moment. I guess your waffling and lack of commitment (no pun intended) to the Genny lynch (which seemed really obvious wolf to me) kinda made me think maybe you were being a clever wolf. But I'm leaning more village on you now after a re-read.

 

[LetItSnow]

Nothing majorly specific, just feels at the moment. I've checked back through your posts though, and it's reading more village than wolf to me at the moment. I guess your waffling and lack of commitment (no pun intended) to the Genny lynch (which seemed really obvious wolf to me) kinda made me think maybe you were being a clever wolf. But I'm leaning more village on you now after a re-read.

Eh. I'm famous for waffling. But yeah, I got caught up in some back 'n forth with CrayCray early in the game. Got distracted and distracting.

And btw, whoever the hell moved me into a group with CrayCray? Own up so I can lynch your ass.

 

[Kam325]

Catching up this morning has been a bizarre experience, haha.

Snow and Genny were never in the same PM group, so how did Snowy know that Genny's ability was as a jailer?

This was a major plot point yesterday, Ceke. Genny said (before night close) that she was using her ability on Snowy and we implied should look out for a vouch. Snowy came in and confirmed the ability that was used on her. That's how she knew.

Ignoring a lot of the morning's Zany Ceke Misadventures...

I could do Pips or Cyndia today.

Cyndia for the "Hey guys I'm suspicious of Genny and I'm going to lynch Genny later, okay, but I'm not going to lynch Genny now so just keep an eye out for my Genny vote 👍👍👍"....

Pips because wanting to lynch Ceke from the gifs yesterday was a little weird, and this:

The cake is a lie?

Followed quickly by this:

On the gifs -- I know Ceke was auto-correcting to Cake on at least a few devices...I am kinda tempted to test the info to see if it's useful or just drunk mumbling.

Pinged a bit yesterday as a possible tag team effor from Genny to Pips.

I'll

Lynch Cyndia

for now, because if I post my reasoning and vote in separate posts Mmm and Ceke will get confused.

 

[Ceke2002]

Reading back through specific players posts my top feels for Wolves at the moment are

Snowy (for reasons outline by myself and others)
Rabbot
Cyndia

 

[Ceke2002]

Catching up this morning has been a bizarre experience, haha.



This was a major plot point yesterday, Ceke. Genny said (before night close) that she was using her ability on Snowy and we implied should look out for a vouch. Snowy came in and confirmed the ability that was used on her. That's how she knew.

Ignoring a lot of the morning's Zany Ceke Misadventures...

I could do Pips, Cyndia, or Snowy today.

Cyndia for the "Hey guys I'm suspicious of Genny and I'm going to lynch Genny later, okay, but I'm not going to lynch Genny now so just keep an eye out for my Genny vote 👍👍👍"....

Pips because wanting to lynch Ceke from the gifs yesterday was a little weird, and this:


Followed quickly by this:



Pinged a bit yesterday as a possible tag team effor from Genny to Pips.

I'll

Lynch Cyndia

for now, because if I post my reasoning and vote in separate posts Mmm and Ceke will get confused.

Okay, so that does cover a good reason for why Snowy new Genny's exact ability. Hmm, there's still a lot of wolf points in Snowy's corner though, but I could also get behind a Cyndia vote for reasons others have outline, plus just general feels.

 

[Ceke2002]

Toss up between Cyndia and Snowy for me at the moment, I could go either way. Will probably end up waffling over to whoever ends up in the lead.

 

[Ceke2002]

Holy mother of rain! Okay it has just started absolutely storming here, so if I suddenly go quiet it's probably because we've had a black out or something, or my crappy internet has decided to throw another fit.

 

[PippyPony]

Pips because wanting to lynch Ceke from the gifs yesterday was a little weird, and this:


Followed quickly by this:

Pinged a bit yesterday as a possible tag team effort from Genny to Pips.

Ok, because this has now been brought up a couple of times:

I literally just was thinking out loud and meant "might be kinda fun to test this out" because... sometimes it's fun to play along with ridiculous shenanigans in the early days. I stand by that -- sometimes everyone is too serious. So if I came across as tag-teaming with Genny on fun-related things, well then tbh I'm still ok with that even though she's wolfy.

But yeah I can see your point on the timing haha

 

[LetItSnow]

Reading back through specific players posts my top feels for Wolves at the moment are

Snowy (for reasons outline by myself and others)
Rabbot
Cyndia

You maybe said - and if so, soz - but why Rabbot?

I'm asking because Rabbot is on my wolfy lean list and I want to know if your reasons line up with mine.

 

[PippyPony]

If Cyndia flips village I think it clears one of STL/Pippy (just don't know which) - I don't see them both piling on a villager as a wolf; they're too cagey for that. If she flips wolf, I think it still clears at least one of them (still don't know which) because I don't see them both hard-bussing a fellow wolf.

*furiously takes notes for future games*

 

[LetItSnow]

*furiously takes notes for future games*

Jackass. 🙂

Anyway. I really need to get to work. Sigh.

 

[WildZoo]

And y'all go ahead and try to lynch me* for asking the same thing my manatee did in the last game. Still salty about that nonsense 😛


(*joke. Please don't lynch me.)

Lynch pippy

 

[Ceke2002]

You maybe said - and if so, soz - but why Rabbot?

I'm asking because Rabbot is on my wolfy lean list and I want to know if your reasons line up with mine.

Implying that Genny's sudden lynch switch on Day 1 wasn't shady it was just good game play, soft defense of Genny saying the lynch was a 'throw it out there and see what happens' with no real basis, the lack of posts (background players make me suspicious, like someone trying to look like they're participating when they're actually kinda sorta not really). That's about it.

 

[JustPaws]

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Lynch pippy

for game play rules: does this count as a vote in italics?
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[SnowshoeDog143]

Snowy is 100% the type to vote D1 for a wolf right out of the gate. Here she backtracked and instead of going for PBC (who was 2nd and thus would have looked even more sketchy of Snowy), went to make someone a newer contender. If she flips wolf I will finally let the whole Dubz thing rest.

Uh.....Since when in jailer always village? I've seen that wolfy more times than village.

I am 100% the type to do that? 😵When I have wolfed, I usually avoid voting for other wolves as long as I can. Also if I was a wolf and jumped off the vote, do you really think genny would ask me to vouch for her ability when she was most likely going down today? All of that together seems like a good way to get two pack members killed instead of just one. It would be smarter to ask a fellow wolf who had nothing to do with the genny lynch to vouch for her ability if she wanted wolf vouches.

Also, jailer means protection as well as blocking so I guess I think of it more as village. I didn't realize genny was jailer last game as well otherwise I would have thought it was wolfy. But most of the games I remember playing jailer has been village.

Eta: This is BBC's post I quoted. My quotes got messed up

 

[WildZoo]

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for game play rules: does this count as a vote in italics?
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It shouldn't, especially considering I didn't unlynch my previous vote 😉

 

[WildZoo]

I am 100% the type to do that? 😵When I have wolfed, I usually avoid voting for other wolves as long as I can. Also if I was a wolf and jumped off the vote, do you really think genny would ask me to vouch for her ability when she was most likely going down today? All of that together seems like a good way to get two pack members killed instead of just one. It would be smarter to ask a fellow wolf who had nothing to do with the genny lynch to vouch for her ability if she wanted wolf vouches.

Also, jailer means protection as well as blocking so I guess I think of it more as village. I didn't realize genny was jailer last game as well otherwise I would have thought it was wolfy. But most of the games I remember playing jailer has been village.

Man I was thoroughly confused because it said the post you quoted was mine but I'm pretty sure I didn't write that post - think it was BBC. May address these thoughts later, but other things first...

 

[WildZoo]

Reread everything and realized I also missed a few posts this morning. Only quoted a couple things but I did rearrange my list a bit, will get that together momentarily.

lynch Snowy

I don't like what I feel like is a retaliatory vote for Genny

I know Genny has burned me twice for being an evil wolf, and Snowy was totally piled on and totally innocent last game, but the Snowy vote for Genny just bugs me

I don't altogether remember why I quoted this. I think it was something to do with the snowy lynch being good for info as well as, I think, a good lynch in general. There are several players who we may be able to soft clear if Genny and snowy were both wolves.

Idk about the PBC vote. You try to give a reasoning for why you vote someone D1 and its usually for a not very strong reason until people start talking more.

Says this anout the PBC vote, votes for me for similar reasons. Hokay.

This came off like Kam was jumping on the bandwagon because not really any reasoning?

And this comes off like maybe you should read more carefully...hell you quoted one of her reasoning posts in your post.

 

[SkiOtter]

Man I was thoroughly confused because it said the post you quoted was mine but I'm pretty sure I didn't write that post - think it was BBC. May address these thoughts later, but other things first...

Also since that post refers to you in it
I'm assuming snowy had this post in the box and tried to delete it but missed the name and redirect arrow tag numbers because clicking the arrow redirects to this post of yours.

I'm trying to decide whether or not snowy and Genny would have linked themselves like that as wolves. I still think snowy was a weird choice so I'm almost ok with it, but it also just...doesn't seem like a smart move. So makes me wonder if it was an intentionally weird choice to try to bring snowy down with her.

 

[rabbott1971]

Ceke I never dreamed anyone might take that STL post seriously, so I apologize for getting you mixed up on that.

As far as taking issue with the Genny lynch, its funny, another player (WildZoo?) noticed that and felt it cleared me, because a wolf wouldn't openly argue against another wolf's imminent lynch. I kind of still feel like her switch was pretty much just playing the game, anyone would do it to save themselves. And honestly, I also still feel like Genny turning out to be a wolf was kind of blind luck, because her lynch did start as Day 1 throw-it-up-against-the-wall kind of lynch. Those are just thoughts about how things have happened, I think its reaching to say that's wolfy.

I voted Finn D1, SnowshoeDog D2, and probably vote SnowshoeDog again tonight.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Also leaning towards snowshoe for defense of a really obvious wolf, even when that wolf's obviousness was, well, really obvious.
Still getting vibes from blitzen as well, and I find it interesting that as soon as a couple of people went, "well, yeah, kinda, maybe?" in response, there were others who came in to defend blitzen's game style, which to me seems like members of the wolf pack trying to steer something in their direction, or at least away from it. I'd have to go back and have a look as to who these were.

Obviously genny wasn't that obvious of a wolf otherwise everyone would have voted there. And if she was a really obvious wolf why would another wolf defend her instead of just voting her for village cred?

It's messing with my brain that my top two suspicions are also voicing a lot of suspicion of each other.

But I think I'm sticking with snowy for now. I can't see the village motivation behind outting genny's ability if she thought Genny was village. Also weird that Genny so heavily defended her choice to switch votes D1 last minute, but flipped over to snowy so early yesterday. Just a lot of weirdness in their interactions.

Lynch snowy

I outed her ability because kam mentioned that someone might have changed their action to me since genny announced she was going to use it on me before night closed. I was blocked so if any actions were used on me I wouldn't know, so I wasn't sure it was genny. Also, it was an hour and a half til night close and she was definitely going down even with me telling people I thought it was a village ability so it's not like it would hurt her to have outed it if it was her ability.

I'll do that next day cycle, if I still have feels for Kam. Right now I'm happy with my Snow vote. It's just a bit too coincidental that neither Genny or Snow were ever in the same PM group, but Snow just happens to mention 'Oh her ability could be as a jailer, and that's usually village', and it turns out Genny is a jailer and a wolf. Yep, that's a lynchin'.

Um I got a message that said "You felt strangely safe, but also got nothing done last night." Sounded like jailing to me.

this is the second time this game I feel like you were grasping at straws to make someone else look sketch, ceke.
first was the "britzen is playing too well thing"
now this kam situation.
not sure what to think of it...

I agree ceke is looking like she is stretching to make people sound sketchy this game.