Time To Get a WWatch - Game Thread

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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@Aprilthearab could you tell me who you town read, if anyone?

 

[Aprilthearab]

i don't think that's especially likely to be a correct POE but i vibe with the nate vote so for now i'll let it ride

Kind of reads to me like "I don't like this POE because I'm in it with my wolf buddy/buddies but it's cool that you're voting a villager for now so carry on"

 

[Empire]

Goes from "wowee this game is hard when I don't know these people, I don't blame Samac for blasting noobs" to "what fun new folks, these people are great"

i can kind of see it though i suspect there may be a reasonable explanation

you can be town regardless for the observation

 

[genny]

you're interested in sheeping a vibe read?

i never claimed to make good life choices.

 

[Aprilthearab]

@Aprilthearab could you tell me who you town read, if anyone?

Samac and sporty sound fine, you and santy sound fine but I'm always open to input there. The very little I've seen of genny is okay, not enough to move out of neutral but no concerns. I always hesitate to read AM early but she's not anywhere near my concerns pile right now. PSV hasn't pinged me, just also hasn't posted anything that sticks out in my mind.

I'm interested where Clem goes with their read of you

Empire is peaking my interest in a different wolfy way than True is peaking my interest (tbh kind of tempted to give True a D1 pass because he's fun to play with and he's always wolfy D1, even though pings are plentiful) and I'm considering voting on Empire

 

[Aprilthearab]

Can others tell me how normal it is for Empire to just hand out village reads for single posts?

JJJ is also handing out a lot of village reads but it's a different feel. JJJ seems to be looking at someone's entire history cumulatively to come to that decision with the occasional thoroughly explained strong comment on a single post, whereas Empire is like "I like this, village read. Good observation, village read."

 

[Truenamer]

Goes from "wowee this game is hard when I don't know these people, I don't blame Samac for blasting noobs" to "what fun new folks, these people are great"

April please, I can like people and also find them hard to read.

You're getting a little tunnel-y.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Can others tell me how normal it is for Empire to just hand out village reads for single posts?

JJJ is also handing out a lot of village reads but it's a different feel. JJJ seems to be looking at someone's entire history cumulatively to come to that decision with the occasional thoroughly explained strong comment on a single post, whereas Empire is like "I like this, village read. Good observation, village read."

I don't know Empire's game well enough to say either way.

You're starting to seem pretty dang town though. In my previous list I think I'll swap your position with Animal Midwife. Both still in the town direction, but you give me more confidence right now.

 

[Aprilthearab]

April please, I can like people and also find them hard to read.

You're getting a little tunnel-y.

Was just an observation of a seemingly dramatic shift in tone during the same time period

Please note:

Empire is peaking my interest in a different wolfy way than True is peaking my interest (tbh kind of tempted to give True a D1 pass because he's fun to play with and he's always wolfy D1, even though pings are plentiful) and I'm considering voting on Empire

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Vote Samac

1. low signal to noise ratio
2. awkward response to being townread by JJJ

I'd be interested in hearing more about #2.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Imma go to bed, still four pages behind but it's fiinnneeeee

Yeet Empire

Will try to read more during my lunch break tomorrow, y'all better not double the thread again

 

[Truenamer]

Was just an observation of a seemingly dramatic shift in tone during the same time period

Please note:

I did see that, doing catch-up a bit piecemeal. Thank you for saying that, I appreciate it

 

[Aprilthearab]

I'd be interested in hearing more about #2.

I'd be interested in hearing more about #1 because I think Samac's had the highest content to posting ratio out of probably all of us so far

okay going to bed for real, maybe

 

[Santygrass]

@samac what made you unvote True?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Vote Samac

1. low signal to noise ratio
2. awkward response to being townread by JJJ

Wowee this is two weird takes

she's very lurky and gets killed for lowposting usually

...MU!AM must be a whole different beast then.

Sorry. I'll get to it. Wish this had started a week ago for real life reasons, not giving you my best right now.

True you know I want you to rest and be happy but I gotta say when you bring in the IRL AtE, it's usually been because you're wolfing.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Current PoE: Empire, True, April less so than before
I'm not totally seeing the case on Nate yet. I want more from him.

 

[Empire]

I'd be interested in hearing more about #2.

You getting town reads so fast scares me a bit
But I also want to village read you for it since I’m there. Stay away from my pockets, pls.

this post - "ooh you getting fast reads is scary but you're village reading me so it's okay i guess you can be a villager, ha ha i sure hope you're not pocketing me" - the last bit feels like tthe sort of self-conscious fake paranoia a wolf might use in response to a village read

 

[potentialsheltervet]

To clarify: Empire and True are firm PoE, April is sort of hanging out in there but not as much as she was beginning of the day.

 

[Truenamer]

Okay, head fuzzy, brain leaking out ears, prepare your bodies for the worst list you've ever seen. Hate this now that I'm looking at it, it's not correct

Calm Seas
Kaydubs
Nruetamer
Animal Midwife
potentialsheltervet

Strong Winds in the Sails
SportPonies
samac
Empire
NateTheLesser

Shipmates Telling Me to Stop Chasing the Whale
genny
JaggedJimmyJay
Aprilthearab
Clem
Santygrass

The Great White Beasts
Dubz
Zenge

 

[Santygrass]

What have you liked about Nate, True?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Okay, head fuzzy, brain leaking out ears, prepare your bodies for the worst list you've ever seen. Hate this now that I'm looking at it, it's not correct

Calm Seas
Kaydubs
Nruetamer
Animal Midwife
potentialsheltervet

Strong Winds in the Sails
SportPonies
samac
Empire
NateTheLesser

Shipmates Telling Me to Stop Chasing the Whale
genny
JaggedJimmyJay
Aprilthearab
Clem
Santygrass

The Great White Beasts
Dubz
Zenge

LAWDY THE WHITE WHALE IS BACK
Boy oh boy this is making me chuckle right now

 

[Santygrass]

Also, Im not Clem, but putting them down there with how buddies y'all seemed to be, sadge 🙁

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Okay, head fuzzy, brain leaking out ears, prepare your bodies for the worst list you've ever seen. Hate this now that I'm looking at it, it's not correct

Calm Seas
Kaydubs
Nruetamer
Animal Midwife
potentialsheltervet

Strong Winds in the Sails
SportPonies
samac
Empire
NateTheLesser

Shipmates Telling Me to Stop Chasing the Whale
genny
JaggedJimmyJay
Aprilthearab
Clem
Santygrass

The Great White Beasts
Dubz
Zenge

I don't understand this list. Santy a wolf read? Clem a wolf read? Genny? JJJ?
Sporty towny? Empire towny? Nate towny?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Wait a sec

 

[potentialsheltervet]

head fuzzy

WOLF TRUE CONFIRMED

 

[Empire]

I'd be interested in hearing more about #1 because I think Samac's had the highest content to posting ratio out of probably all of us so far

okay going to bed for real, maybe

that was distinctly not my impression from reading her iso and i'm not sure how to explain that feeling without doing an exhaustive summary which i'm not sure anyone wants

she had a few quote-stripey wall posts, but in terms of the actual content they felt pretty lean, and since then i'm not sure i could tell you what she thinks about anyone in this game besides voting me - and even then it was with a vote she didn't care to do much with. other than that most of her posts trended toward idle commentary where i didn't see much in the way of solving intent. i don't mind a bi of banter since the atmosphere here is laid back but i gottoo much impression she's talkin just to talk.

i hate to pull the uno reverse card but - can you show me a couple posts of hers you thought were good?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

this post - "ooh you getting fast reads is scary but you're village reading me so it's okay i guess you can be a villager, ha ha i sure hope you're not pocketing me" - the last bit feels like tthe sort of self-conscious fake paranoia a wolf might use in response to a village read

Thanks. I’ll think it over. @genny do you have an updated impression of samac?

 

[Truenamer]

What have you liked about Nate, True?

Just gives me good feelings.

My D1 reads are terrible when I'm village and I'm giving a list because I want to be helpful and people specifically requested it. I don't have clear reasons for most of this, it's just sportyvoicetone and vibes.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Just gives me good feelings.

My D1 reads are terrible when I'm village and I'm giving a list because I want to be helpful and people specifically requested it. I don't have clear reasons for most of this, it's just sportyvoicetone and vibes.

Why is kaydubs village while Zenge and Dubz are wolves?
Oh, why do I ask? KD clearly has a village soul while Zenge and Dubz are bad to the bone

 

[Santygrass]

Yeet Nate

WAnt to see more from this atm. Anyways I'll go to sleep now Skill Issue

 

[genny]

Thanks. I’ll think it over. @genny do you have an updated impression of samac?

on p4 of reread. will answer in a bit.

 

[Santygrass]

Also True readlist is so... Weird? That it is slightly town indicative, what worries me is stuff like thinking Clem would be one tier up from me/jjj for example. So its both 'towny independent thoughts' but also 'I dont see how they reached those reads' . I'll munch over it

 

[genny]

Okay, head fuzzy, brain leaking out ears, prepare your bodies for the worst list you've ever seen. Hate this now that I'm looking at it, it's not correct

Calm Seas
Kaydubs
Nruetamer
Animal Midwife
potentialsheltervet

Strong Winds in the Sails
SportPonies
samac
Empire
NateTheLesser

Shipmates Telling Me to Stop Chasing the Whale
genny
JaggedJimmyJay
Aprilthearab
Clem
Santygrass

The Great White Beasts
Dubz
Zenge

first impression: hot garbage.
let me reread and see if that changes.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thanks for the reads list @Truenamer. When you feel like it, it’d be cool to hear about your takes on samac and SportPonies.

 

[Truenamer]

first impression: hot garbage.
let me reread and see if that changes.

first impression is correct, no need to reread

 

[Truenamer]

Thanks for the reads list @Truenamer. When you feel like it, it’d be cool to hear about your takes on samac and SportPonies.

They've both been feeling normal to me. Less to go off of for Sporty but her thread entrance is exactly what I would expect. She arrived in the thread late so I'm going to hopefully have more to see from her before vote close, but there's nothing about her so far that's pinged me.

Samac is feeling like she was before I ate her in my last game, but I am not especially good at reading her and ranked her a bit lower to hedge for that.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Spoiler: Empire’s takes on samac

this post - "ooh you getting fast reads is scary but you're village reading me so it's okay i guess you can be a villager, ha ha i sure hope you're not pocketing me" - the last bit feels like tthe sort of self-conscious fake paranoia a wolf might use in response to a village read

Spoiler: Empire’s takes on samac

that was distinctly not my impression from reading her iso and i'm not sure how to explain that feeling without doing an exhaustive summary which i'm not sure anyone wants

she had a few quote-stripey wall posts, but in terms of the actual content they felt pretty lean, and since then i'm not sure i could tell you what she thinks about anyone in this game besides voting me - and even then it was with a vote she didn't care to do much with. other than that most of her posts trended toward idle commentary where i didn't see much in the way of solving intent. i don't mind a bi of banter since the atmosphere here is laid back but i gottoo much impression she's talkin just to talk.

i hate to pull the uno reverse card but - can you show me a couple posts of hers you thought were good?

I think these takes from Empire are at least worth considering. I’d really like to hear from anyone that hasn’t already commented: what do you think of Empire’s reads here, and what do you think of Empire himself?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

They've both been feeling normal to me. Less to go off of for Sporty but her thread entrance is exactly what I would expect. She arrived in the thread late so I'm going to hopefully have more to see from her before vote close, but there's nothing about her so far that's pinged me.

Samac is feeling like she was before I ate her in my last game, but I am not especially good at reading her and ranked her a bit lower to hedge for that.

Alrighty. Would you say that I have pinged you?

 

[Truenamer]

Alrighty. Would you say that I have pinged you?

I am very concerned that you are playing a grade A wolf game, and someone with a history of reading you claims that you feel wolfy to them.

I would not want to vote for you today but I am at the very least paying more attention to you than most people.

 

[WildZoo]

The Great White Beasts
Dubz
Zenge

'Scuse you I'm only 75% white

 

[Animal Midwife]

What was akward about it?

@Empire

 

[WildZoo]

Why is kaydubs village while Zenge and Dubz are wolves?
Oh, why do I ask? KD clearly has a village soul while Zenge and Dubz are bad to the bone

Y'all underestimate KD. She's chaos for sure.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Nevermind, my boyfriend is making me sleep on the couch because my shower somehow amplified my kitten fart dip smell. More WW time!

 

[Animal Midwife]

...MU!AM must be a whole different beast then.

I intentionally overwhelm myself to test my ability of making snap reads. It's okay until I can't figure out how to clear myself.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Unvote Truenamer

Vote NateTheLesser

 

[Animal Midwife]

Current PoE: Empire, True, April less so than before
I'm not totally seeing the case on Nate yet. I want more from him.

I just don't like how he's largely disengaged from me.

 

[Truenamer]

genny is going through and giving all of my posts 'okays' and it's weirdly hurtful

 

[Animal Midwife]

Okay, head fuzzy, brain leaking out ears, prepare your bodies for the worst list you've ever seen. Hate this now that I'm looking at it, it's not correct

Calm Seas
Kaydubs
Nruetamer
Animal Midwife
potentialsheltervet

Strong Winds in the Sails
SportPonies
samac
Empire
NateTheLesser

Shipmates Telling Me to Stop Chasing the Whale
genny
JaggedJimmyJay
Aprilthearab
Clem
Santygrass

The Great White Beasts
Dubz
Zenge

What's got Nate in your greens?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I just don't like how he's largely disengaged from me.

I guess "largely disengaged" is a decent way to describe what I've seen from him so far.

 

[Aprilthearab]

that was distinctly not my impression from reading her iso and i'm not sure how to explain that feeling without doing an exhaustive summary which i'm not sure anyone wants

she had a few quote-stripey wall posts, but in terms of the actual content they felt pretty lean, and since then i'm not sure i could tell you what she thinks about anyone in this game besides voting me - and even then it was with a vote she didn't care to do much with. other than that most of her posts trended toward idle commentary where i didn't see much in the way of solving intent. i don't mind a bi of banter since the atmosphere here is laid back but i gottoo much impression she's talkin just to talk.

i hate to pull the uno reverse card but - can you show me a couple posts of hers you thought were good?

Well, I tried not to get too gung-ho pulling content posts but here we are because I found more than I was looking for. Putting in spoiler to make life easier. Also, this isn't a Samac iso necessarily for the sake of reading her, this is just to satisfy the "low content:noise ratio" comment that I think isn't true, as well as your perspective that her reads aren't clear and her posts are just idle commentary.

Spoiler: Some of Samac's content

Alright alright alright
My morning has been a **** show and I didn’t get to **** talk as much as I wanted this morning.


I am confused.
Are people actually not getting roles again or did you just copy and paste from literary and not read it?

These guys aren’t noobs, though.

I would not put any stock in first.

I like this post

I hate this post. A lot.
It’s been a little while since the last game ended and this one started no? Seems like plenty of time to shake it off.

I hate this post too because this isn’t a problem you’ve had before and saying you’re detached from the teams makes me eye twitch.

I disagree, sometimes snap reads on day 1 are just what I need.

And I’mma see what happens if I do dis

yeet true

Forming reads, a good deal of "I like this post, I hate that post" which is fine by me because it was/is still early in the game and fits her village meta.

I know Truenamer, claiming “mod brain” sounded reallllll weird.

I don’t think it was nit picky at all. I think it was a genuine strange thing to say when the last game ended 2 weeks ago and he hasn’t been modding anything since.

Furthering her reads, explaining her basis

Oh hello 3 pages



This feels stretchy

This feels like I need hedge clippers

Really? You don’t have any ideas?

I need AM here. @Animal Midwife How often has he slammed down that you’re village? Do you remember? Do you remember how he’s approached you as wolf?

So I really like like the SDN search function. You can filter by thread and by user. I’ve never thought to do this.

Wolfy pop in (TM)

Forming more reads, bringing attention to things that might generate more interactions, questioning to find lines of reasoning

If this is a wolf PSV world these pockets are warm and I like it in here. She’s coming out swinging and I love it.



I’m not sure if April would do it that fast tho

I love you and I love this post

Starting to form PSV read, gives brief basis for why

I got best wolf last year on the site and some people are scurred of me but no one likes to bring up the fact I’ve failed twice this year.

Rood

I am interested that you’d say this though. My last wolf outting you called me out as off in literally my first like 5 posts.

I think I agree.

Rood

Awwww genny. I hope you’re vanilla milk in AM’s eyes this game. But I like your AM vote. I always find AM votes villagey though lol

I think I agree on PSV.
I think I feel good about you.
I don’t know Santy and AM scares me.

Lots more reads

Why did you think this was a personal betrayal against you?

Generating interactions, inquiring for reasoning

I literally had a back massage and spent the entire time thinking about this point and why would wolf JJJ go this hard in the paint for village samac?
Only way I see that happening is if he’s in a wolf pack with someone who was like “lol she’ll never get yeeted” I find it hard to imagine someone coming on the site and just aligning themselves this hard for the lulz.
Or he is genuinely village and actually trying to game solve.
I’m leaning towards the latter.

Active game-solving attempt with lines of reasoning readily apparent

I don’t see any reason to be suspicious of AM at this point.
But correct me if I’m wrong, the MU crowd tends to yeet AM a lot more often than the crowd here?

Getting a basis for others' AM reads

TL;DR: Samac is generating a lot of content - real content, not lean white noise just to talk, not idle commentary. Might not always be saying outright "I think __ is a wolf and __ is village" but you can definitely tell where her reads lie from her reasoning and pushes, so I don't think you're correct in saying you wouldn't be able to figure out where her suspicions lie. Just from this handful of posts, I can tell that she's wolf reading true and you, feels fine about AM, JJJ, PSV, and genny, and santy is a question mark.

Content generation doesn't automatically mean she's village because wolves sure can generate content too, but I don't think low signal:noise ratio is accurate, nor do I think it's accurate to say she's not generating reads.