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JaggedJimmyJay said:
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Okay, here are our reads. If I have incorrectly tallied anything, please let me know.

To read the chart, the names in the left column are the people who participated live (or close to live) in the exercise. The names in the top row are the players being read gun-to-head. A green box is a town read. A red box is a mafia read. On the bottom, you see the total number of each read that every player received. On the far right, you see the total number of each read that the participants in the exercise gave.

I will need to look over this briefly to develop some impressions, but a few interesting things emerge immediately:

~ Truenamer and NateTheLesser gave identical reads with one exception (True town reads Nate, but Nate mafia reads True). They're both deep in the POE right now, and their similar perspective about what that implies could prove to be quite important as we move forward in the gamestate.

~ genny is trusted by SDN regulars and doubted by visitors (with the exception of True). Meta reads may be needed to sort that out.

~ Sporty remains a black void, with even splits here and no discernible trend about who's giving each read (some newcomers and some locals both ways). The same applies technically applies to Empire, at least statistically.

~ Nobody calling AM mafia surprised me a little bit. If any mafia participated in this game (not necessarily a guarantee), this might signify that they conceded a town read to us (one that is correct) on AM instead of trying to add a voice of resistance.

I'll share whatever thoughts I have as they come to mind.
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If you’re a wolf I’ll hate you forever.
This is blocc material.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
I don't know of anyone who can read Sporty lol. The first two people I considered are modding.
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I’ve voted sporty at least 3x when wolfing. Usually I have to flip someone else first.

i was poking her earlier to see how she reacted. She thought I was looking for her to explode at me to wolf read her but that wasn’t it. She acted towards me more like village sporty than wolf sporty usually does.
 
genny said:
oh you sweet summer child. that's busywork at best.
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I’m not the niavest of players I don’t think
But they way he’s been interacting on thread, watching interactions, his commentary just feels so dang genuine. Throw in this beautiful box and I’m sold
 
potentialsheltervet said:
I don't mean to imply that. Just that it wouldn't surprise me if someone in the POE made the strategic decision to bus a partner also deep in the POE after the discussion we had.
But I'm not going to put words in your mouth and idk how I feel about you rn anyway
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I also agree with this is conversations I’ve had with true. I do think if he and a packmate in a pack of 3 started deep in the Poe that would be the moment he would do it.
 
samac said:
I’m not the niavest of players I don’t think
But they way he’s been interacting on thread, watching interactions, his commentary just feels so dang genuine. Throw in this beautiful box and I’m sold
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i'm ok with the rest of your read. And if you want to give extra points for coloring, that's on you.
 
While people speak of my colorful charts, I'll just say the obvious bits:

Yes, I make colorful charts in any alignment. I'm Chart Boi. Sometimes people rag on it, but I'm not bothered. As with anything I post, the content should be assessed rather than the aesthetic appeal with respect to my alignment.

I think samac's read suggests that's happening, so cool beans.
 
Think we're at

Code: 
Truey   2 (Samac, Sporty)
Sporty  2 (Genny, Santy)
Clem    2 (Nate, JJJ)
Nate    1 (AM)
JJJ     1 (Clem)
Empire  1 (April)
Samac   1 (PSV)
 
samac said:
*in b4 Sporty’s angries*

One thing you must know about me is when I take the keys to the blocc and run away. You can’t say those things to me this early, I’ll get big headed.
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Jesus Christ @SportPonies why you reacting at posts on page 2 you can’t be that far behind
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
I thought this was a decent moment for Truenamer, and it might have even impacted my gun-to-head reads as they were happening. I was struggling with my Nate read too in that moment and still am, and I think it's encouraging that True is trying to process that here and even went for the town read. Nate's an easy mafia read if you need suspects right now, so... good moment.
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Nate’s an easy wolf read for wolves if he’s not wolf
 
samac said:
Nate’s an easy wolf read for wolves if he’s not wolf
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at there. If True is mafia and Nate is town, then that progression isn't what I'd expect to see. Nate's a freebie at that point.
 
samac said:
Jesus Christ @SportPonies why you reacting at posts on page 2 you can’t be that far behind
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You too, huh?

Part of why I don't think I can vote for her today. I am privy to knowing that she genuinely had an awful day and is very behind.
 
my thought on sportponies after reviewing her iso is "eh could be a wolf". not seeing like...a ton of thoughts beyond not liking the tone of that one truenamer post. could easily be a playstyle thing though, would defer to the reads of people with meta for now (i really do not want to have to do research on this forum)
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at there. If True is mafia and Nate is town, then that progression isn't what I'd expect to see. Nate's a freebie at that point.
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I never know how I'm supposed to react to this because like, obviously I'm happy to be read correctly, but if I say that it might sound like I'm too eager?
 
Empire said:
my thought on sportponies after reviewing her iso is "eh could be a wolf". not seeing like...a ton of thoughts beyond not liking the tone of that one truenamer post. could easily be a playstyle thing though, would defer to the reads of people with meta for now (i really do not want to have to do research on this forum)
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You kinda did on psv already tho right? Now its too late
 
Empire said:
I made a post on it, I believe?

It's VERY hard to explain without getting into the nuances of Clem-specific meta

just that when he's a villager you see glimpses of real insight behind the devil may care ****posting facade and it han't been present here

and i kind of...if he thought jay was really powerwolfing this game i would think he'd be a little less aloof about it?
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This is a fair point
 
Empire said:
my thought on sportponies after reviewing her iso is "eh could be a wolf". not seeing like...a ton of thoughts beyond not liking the tone of that one truenamer post. could easily be a playstyle thing though, would defer to the reads of people with meta for now (i really do not want to have to do research on this forum)
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Chop chop, you gotta go read every game between now and 2018. You have an hour.
 
I was going to say that psv/empire had W equity based on that post but then remembered the rest of their interactions through the day and self slapped myself
 
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