UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion thread 2008-2009

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I'm curious whether anyone else out there is certain that they'll be attending TCOM in July? I've ranked it at the top of my match list and I pre-matched back in November, so that pretty much seals the deal. Any future classmates out there?
 
I'm curious whether anyone else out there is certain that they'll be attending TCOM in July? I've ranked it at the top of my match list and I pre-matched back in November, so that pretty much seals the deal. Any future classmates out there?

I hope to be. I've had a few other offers, but I definitely have TCOM as my first choice. I've already set mine, but yeah, it would be good to remind everyone that the last day to set it is coming up in 3 days.

i'm able to access the scholarship application, but haven't been formally notified of acceptance yet... is everyone else in the same boat???

We all saw that tab awhile back, at least, all of the people still under review. I haven't been able to do anything with it; it's for searching existing applications only. I'm guessing this is only for the accepted.
 
i'm able to access the scholarship application, but haven't been formally notified of acceptance yet... is everyone else in the same boat???


I am OOS and interviewed in December, so I am also waiting on the decision about my app.....but I too just recently am able to access the scholarship apps. For a while after my interview it would just show up as a blank page with a search.....but now it lists all of the scholarships and a place for me to fill in my information to apply. Hopefully I hear something soon!
 
Whoa...that's cool. I got in too; I see the list and info blanks to fill in. I wonder what this means. Hopefully good news maybe. What is everyone going to do? I might fill it out when I send out my financial aid.
 
I too can access the scholarship application. I hope it is a good sign, lets keep our fingers crossed. Do you guys think they may change our statuses a day or two before the match since the match day is I think a Sunday.
 
We were thinking that. I might just give them a call since I'm pretty antsy to find out for sure. I think the RoT thread in pre-allo might know the answer to this as well.

If we're just going off of the Nov 15th prematch release date, yeah, they probably will let it go early, but then again, I think this is a bigger deal than Nov 15th.
 
Back to what is going on with UNT's new MD degree, there's a lot of talk on it going on in the med student forums and on the AOA president blog. I'll toss up some links:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=585607

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=592566

http://blogs.do-online.org/aoapresident.php?itemid=18501

I think I'm convinced that this might be for the best for the degree. As I said in the first thread, this feels like a direct challenge to the AOA, COCA, and TOMA to address the degree designation without a ridiculous unanimous vote.

I kinda feel bad about being so hostile to the idea at first and given time, I'm still a little skeptical about the reasons, but the end result seems to be a step towards progress. Regardless of how many staunch DO-or-die physicians are left out there, they can't ignore the concerns of the general practicing pool of physicians.

I'm pretty excited. We might just be on the verge of a major change in the profession and TCOM might be the center of it all.
 
Back to what is going on with UNT's new MD degree, there's a lot of talk on it going on in the med student forums and on the AOA president blog. I'll toss up some links:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=585607

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=592566

http://blogs.do-online.org/aoapresident.php?itemid=18501

I think I'm convinced that this might be for the best for the degree. As I said in the first thread, this feels like a direct challenge to the AOA, COCA, and TOMA to address the degree designation without a ridiculous unanimous vote.

I kinda feel bad about being so hostile to the idea at first and given time, I'm still a little skeptical about the reasons, but the end result seems to be a step towards progress. Regardless of how many staunch DO-or-die physicians are left out there, they can't ignore the concerns of the general practicing pool of physicians.

I'm pretty excited. We might just be on the verge of a major change in the profession and TCOM might be the center of it all.


The general feelings from my classmates were similar to yours. overeaction, anger and mistrust. weve had a few discussions with Dr. Ransom (the school's dean) and hes reassured us that the MD program is really just to help everyone (school, students and community) out. Oddly enough, as he explained to us, this was not an internal idea. The idea came from area hospital directors. According to what we've been told, they approach our school because they were interested in setting up a primary partnership/association with the school (as we dont have our own full service hospital). the only problem, as they tell it, is while they will allow us to rotate through their hospital for clerkships and they hire plenty of us for residencies, they were reluctant to become fully partnered with an osteopathic school (there are no standalone osteopathic hospitals in the area as theyve all gone under). they thought that partnering with an osteopathic school would give the public a feeling that the hospital converted to an osteopathic only hospital. its superstitious sp? and silly but these are the real concerns from the directors of these hospitals.
They suggested the MD option (since texas is still predicted to be short of doctors within the coming years).

Now, the administration has vowed to keep the priorities of the two schools together and leave noone behind. one helps the other. they said if a deal was struck for partnerships, that it would be a both (DO and MD) or none situation.

The MD option opens more research opportunities and more funding, this can help all school programs including non medicine programs.

The only school who offers both DO and MD programs is the only DO school ranked above TCOM in US news.
MSUCOM #7
MSU MD #22
WVSOM #43
TCOM #43

TCOM is #1 in Comlex avgs (560s)/usmle(high 210s i believe) avgs but for some reason we dont get the same reputation score as either of those schools.

This holding back in rankings could be to stereotypical views from outsiders that DO schools arent as good as MD schools and MSU is regarded as an exception because they also have an MD program?

Noone really knows for sure of course, and these last theories are just theoretical of course.

The only thing we can say for a fact is that.
1) TCOM was chartered as a DO school and it is written in the state legislature that it has to stay (at least in part) a DO school.
2) the administration really seems to be committed to the unt-hsc as a whole and really seems to want to do what is best for everyone, including us.

I personally im not worried. Dr. Ransom has my full support and trust.

To add a little more, my personal opinion/disclaimer, i have liked the idea of offering an MD program since they announced so maybe im biased, but i think it could bring tremendous resources and added respect to the university.

Also one more note i think he said that if it were to happen ASAP, that would still mean the first MD graduating class would be the class of 2017 or so, so quite a ways away.
 
Hey, thanks for the insight. I'm glad they realize that current and incoming students are priority because it would seem as such. I didn't realize that the thing about the osteopathic hospitals and being approached externally was one of the major factors. They could've told us that in the FAQ.

I think that concern and TCOM's desire to increase research dollars are pretty good concerns to the degree name in general, which is why I am eager to see the national response to it. I didn't realize that TCOM was chartered to be a DO school in state legislature, but is that eternal? I wonder what would happen if the COCA withdrew accreditation from TCOM as a response.
 
Hi, I interviewed on 12/5 and am waiting to hear... they told me "late January." When exactly is "match day"? Also, am I waiting for match day as an out of stater?? Thanks.
 
Out of state does not get a match. Unfortunately, you'll just to have to wait it out, although I would think the TX match will affect your situation. I just don't know how it will.

The official TX resident match is Feb 1st, but that day is a Sunday, so we believe the match results will be posted on Friday, Jan 30th. The last day for people to submit their match lists (for in state) is Jan 15th.

I plan on calling them to see if we really do find out on the 30th or on Feb 2nd.

EDIT - I'm reading on the old thread now, and it seems that several OOS people got waitlisted on Jan 22nd, which would be a week after the deadline. However, a lot of the same people got accepted in May off the waitlist, so no matter what happens, don't give up. It's too early to call anything, so I just be patient and you might hear back this month like the rest of us.
 
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I wish there was some way to find out how much of their class is filled, or the number of pre-match vs match offers they gave out last year. I had talked to them before the break and they did mention that there are several spots allocated to the match so that maybe some good news.
 
It seems the majority of spots are allocated to the match. I'm also certain that not every prematch offer they gave out is going to be taken; it would be the same for every other TX school too. There can only be one 🙂

I hope we get some more activity in here soon. It's been kinda lonely and sometimes I feel like I'm just sitting here rambling to myself like a psych patient. Or spamming, but only the latter could get me banned :laugh:
 
I would not say that Flu Shot. I think your posts have been very helpful, and you should keep them comming.
 
I hope we get some more activity in here soon. It's been kinda lonely and sometimes I feel like I'm just sitting here rambling to myself like a psych patient. Or spamming, but only the latter could get me banned :laugh:

There will be plenty of activity in a couple weeks 🙂 I'm rooting for you guys!
 
I wish there was some way to find out how much of their class is filled, or the number of pre-match vs match offers they gave out last year. I had talked to them before the break and they did mention that there are several spots allocated to the match so that maybe some good news.

I also was told that many seats were allocated for the match and they wouldn't be giving out too many prematch offers.
 
I hope we get some more activity in here soon. It's been kinda lonely and sometimes I feel like I'm just sitting here rambling to myself like a psych patient. Or spamming, but only the latter could get me banned :laugh:

Your posts are quite useful. I read the thread often but don't always post something. I too feel that its quiet around here sometimes. Good news will come at the end of the month! 👍
 
As an OOS'er I am not taking much to heart based on last years thread I remember reading that those OOS'ers that interviewed in December that were then waitlisted in January were told at the interview that OOS spots were filled. Don't give up.....I think that they would have told us if OOS spots were filled, and I specifically asked about when we would hear a decision at my interview and was also told late January. I think that in the adcoms telling that a decision would be made and that our committee wouldnt meet until January would have brought up the fact that oh gee, there really aren't any OOS spots left. It is highly variable year to year and they can even not take any OOS'ers if they dont want to! so hopefully it is not like last year! Good luck to everyone, hope we all hear good news soon :luck:
 
Haha, thanks you two. I like to stick around.

Megan, I wouldn't bank on last year being exactly the same either. That's all that is certain, so there's still a lot of time left for decisions. Frankly, I just want this month to end in more ways than one so we can all finally know.
 
yeah definitely flushot, i just want this month to end just so i can have an idea where i stand!
 
just wanted to post some stats for you guys comparing class of 2011 and 2012 so you can see where about you stand in comparison and see how many offers they made and such.

Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine
Entering Class Statistics 2007-2008



Go To: Admissions Homepage
Entering Class Profile
Fall 2007
Fall 2008
Applications Texas Residents
1,740
1,750​
Non-residents
226
233​
Total
1,966
1,983

Interviews Conducted Total
614
615

Offers of Admission Total
409
393

Entering Class Size Texas Residents
153
162​
Non-residents
12
13​
Total
165
175
Academic Profile Mean Overall GPA
3.56
3.57​
Mean Science GPA
3.47
3.47​
Mean MCAT Score
27.3
28​
Range
19-40
21-34​
Institutions Represented
62
52​
Area of Prior Academic Study (percentage) Biological Sciences
55%
73%​
Physical Sciences
11%
9%​
Social Sciences
6%
7%​
Health-related fields
10%
4%​
All others
18%
7%​
Gender and Age Males
87
92​
Females
78
83​
Mean Age
24
25​
Age Range
19-43
20-42​
Race or Ethnicity Asian
44
46​
Black
5
6​
Hispanic
21
18​
Native American
1
2​
White/Caucasian
91
94​
Other
3
9​


the above information was copied and pasted from
http://www.hsc.unt.edu/education/tcom/enteringclassstats.cfm

for those OOSers, its over 200 people competing for a dozen spots, so dont be too upset if you have to wait a bit longer as some people withdraw from consideration and they work their way down the list. it seems they like to take about 8% OOS though i recall being told thay can take up to 10%, so i dont know what this business of them telling you they are full is all about.

i think 2013 might be 185 students. i know they said something about increasing class size yearly until they get to like 205 or something but i dont know if theyre going to wait until the new building/classrooms are finalized or keep increasing class sizes.
 
just wanted to post some stats for you guys comparing class of 2011 and 2012 so you can see where about you stand in comparison and see how many offers they made and such.

Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine
Entering Class Statistics 2007-2008


Go To: Admissions Homepage

Entering Class Profile
Fall 2007

Fall 2008


Applications Texas Residents
1,740

1,750​

Non-residents
226

233​

Total
1,966

1,983



Interviews Conducted Total
614

615



Offers of Admission Total
409

393



Entering Class Size Texas Residents
153

162​

Non-residents
12

13​

Total
165

175

Academic Profile Mean Overall GPA
3.56

3.57​

Mean Science GPA
3.47

3.47​

Mean MCAT Score
27.3

28​

Range
19-40

21-34​

Institutions Represented
62

52​

Area of Prior Academic Study (percentage) Biological Sciences
55%

73%​

Physical Sciences
11%

9%​

Social Sciences
6%

7%​

Health-related fields
10%

4%​

All others
18%

7%​

Gender and Age Males
87

92​

Females
78

83​

Mean Age
24

25​

Age Range
19-43

20-42​

Race or Ethnicity Asian
44

46​

Black
5

6​

Hispanic
21

18​

Native American
1

2​

White/Caucasian
91

94​

Other
3

9​


the above information was copied and pasted from
http://www.hsc.unt.edu/education/tcom/enteringclassstats.cfm

for those OOSers, its over 200 people competing for a dozen spots, so dont be too upset if you have to wait a bit longer as some people withdraw from consideration and they work their way down the list. it seems they like to take about 8% OOS though i recall being told thay can take up to 10%, so i dont know what this business of them telling you they are full is all about.

i think 2013 might be 185 students. i know they said something about increasing class size yearly until they get to like 205 or something but i dont know if theyre going to wait until the new building/classrooms are finalized or keep increasing class sizes.


wow thanks for the great info! I know that OOS is competitive and I didn't even expect to get an interview! I do not mind waiting.....TCOM is a great school but I am keeping my fingers crossed :xf:
 
wow thanks for the great info! I know that OOS is competitive and I didn't even expect to get an interview! I do not mind waiting.....TCOM is a great school but I am keeping my fingers crossed :xf:

you better keep them crossed. but heres a nice little nugget for you. if you interviewed, you have a >60% chance of being offered a spot 🙂 (as a whole, not breaking it down into in state and oos)
 
Yeah, the odds are even better if they increased the class size to 185, although I don't remember them telling us this or making any note of 09's class size. Maybe they were still deciding it.

By the way, tomorrow's the deadline to put in your match list, I believe. I also believe within the next few days, everyone's status (for instate) will change to that message about it being closed until the match date.

EDIT - Ok here we go, with a handy link too:

January 15: Deadline for applicants holding multiple pre-match offers to retain one offer and decline all others. Must be entered online by 11:59 PM (Central Time)
Submission deadline for match preference rank list. Must be entered online by 11:59 PM (Central Time)
February 1: Match results announced After February 1 acceptances are offered as openings occur
http://www.utsystem.edu/tmdsas/Acceptance-MatchInfo.htm
 
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So for OOS'ers, we don't have to do anything at all, right? (regarding the match stuff)

Megan - those stats are kind of scary.. but if they hadn't filled the 15-17 seats they allow for OOS'ers by December, when we interviewed, that is surely a good sign 👍:xf::luck:😀
 
So for OOS'ers, we don't have to do anything at all, right? (regarding the match stuff)

Megan - those stats are kind of scary.. but if they hadn't filled the 15-17 seats they allow for OOS'ers by December, when we interviewed, that is surely a good sign 👍:xf::luck:😀


You guys are fine. they dont interview a lot of OOSers. I interviewed late november, and i got in (yes im out of state, Florida).
Most OOS applicants are weaker because TCOM has a reputation for being closed off to out of state, compared to other DO schools. I still ranked TCOM #1 even though i was OOS, just to be on the safe side. but i got an acceptance phone call in december way before the match, and you might too later this month. Positive thoughts guys.
 
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of time left for OOS. There's no set time like it is for us.

That said, I'm surprised at the number of OOS people that ran through the thread this year. I think we have like the same number of IS regulars in the thread.

And another reminder to the IS people: today is the last day for match preferences!
 
And another reminder to the IS people: today is the last day for match preferences!

A question about that...all you really have to do is use the drop down menu, and select the appropriate school, and fill in the date of interview, right? I know, obvious question, but I get nervous and have to confirm these things in order to feel ok :scared:
 
As mentioned in the 'other great thread' as well, it would be a good idea to fill out the FAFSA ASAP, at http://www.fafsa.ed.gov

Which I am gonna do right now. Seriously. :meanie:


make sure you do it early if youre OOS otherwise all the 895 dollar a year grants will be gone, and then youll be sorry and broke. hahaha.
 
As mentioned in the 'other great thread' as well, it would be a good idea to fill out the FAFSA ASAP, at http://www.fafsa.ed.gov

Which I am gonna do right now. Seriously. :meanie:

Yeah, the chore I keep putting off 🙁 It's really not that long either and maybe takes a hour at most but I dread doing it every year.

A question about that...all you really have to do is use the drop down menu, and select the appropriate school, and fill in the date of interview, right? I know, obvious question, but I get nervous and have to confirm these things in order to feel ok :scared:

That's it as far as I'm concerned. TMDSAS's website is, I guess, a little uninteractive that I wonder if it really 'saved' it or not. The login is kind of strange too; no authentication or anything beyond a 5 letter password.

I hope that's all we need.
 
ah i've been quiet b/c i've been out of town. anyway, yeah i was a little worried about how indefinite the match page on TMDSAS seemed. there's no "submit" button or confirmation page or anything when you enter in your preferences...made me a little nervous.

on another note, i e-mailed Mike Kennedy about the match date. he didn't seem to know about how TMDSAS would do it. he guesses it'll either be on Sunday or Monday. i'm not sure if i'm remembering correctly, but i think last year some people got their results sooner than Feb 1st. then again, it wasn't on a weekend... *shrugs*

good luck everybody!!! i wish SDN would turn into a bar table so we could have some drinks and take some shots the night of match 😛
 
Good luck to everyone in the match. Hope we all receive good news. I also wish we could all imbibe together that day!
 
So I called the TMDSAS folks about the Match since Feb 1st falls on a weekend. So she said there is a possibility that they may release it the Friday before the 1st, or the Monday there after. What a headache, I wish they can for once provide a definite answer.
 
Haha, yeah, it'll be interesting Friday night. I think the schools will probably have their matches ready to go by then but it's really up to TMDSAS. I bet the last thing they want right now is another phone call asking them when 🙄

I'm sure the schools wouldn't mind it on that Friday either. It's really up to the application service I think.
 
I'm curious whether anyone else out there is certain that they'll be attending TCOM in July? I've ranked it at the top of my match list and I pre-matched back in November, so that pretty much seals the deal. Any future classmates out there?

I'll be there!!!😍 Can't wait!! Has anyone checked into housing?
 
Hey cybele, are you going to the ROME program? I remember you asking about that before. If you look at the attached schedule, there's a few extra classes that they take in preparation, so that reminded me of your question earlier.
 
I just wanted to come by and wish everyone good luck with the match. It'll be over before you know it and then it won't be long before we are all planning our move to Fort Worth. Good luck!
 
Hey, thanks for the heads up L4L. I think I know everyone who is biting their nails for match day, but hopefully they'll all return in two weeks when it happens. I hope you stop by then too 😉

Speaking of which, I'm almost certain there are a ton of lurkers on this page and the RoT thread who will undoubtedly make a new account and post if they get the good news. If you're reading this and you're one of them, don't be shy and sign up so you can chat. Otherwise, I'm going to have to talk about random things to myself, like Wall ball and how there aren't any more square Jolly Ranchers.
 
Hey, thanks for the heads up L4L. I think I know everyone who is biting their nails for match day, but hopefully they'll all return in two weeks when it happens. I hope you stop by then too 😉

Speaking of which, I'm almost certain there are a ton of lurkers on this page and the RoT thread who will undoubtedly make a new account and post if they get the good news. If you're reading this and you're one of them, don't be shy and sign up so you can chat. Otherwise, I'm going to have to talk about random things to myself, like Wall ball and how there aren't any more square Jolly Ranchers.

Speaking of square food, not sure if any of you are Monk fans but did anyone like the episode with the square tomato? Hilarious. Anyway, hope you are all finding something to tide you over for the next two weeks. I am trying to recover from the Houston marathon. Good luck again to everyone in the match.
 
Hey cybele, are you going to the ROME program? I remember you asking about that before. If you look at the attached schedule, there's a few extra classes that they take in preparation, so that reminded me of your question earlier.

Yes, thanks for remembering me. I was extremely skeptical at the beginning, but after I talked to Dr. Bowling (the head of the ROME program), current students, and even current applicants, I'm absolutely thrilled about it! You're right, there are additional classes, but from what I can gather these are usually pretty exciting. You get to learn a lot of specialist techniques right from the start because they're training you, of course, for rural life. So regardless of your specialty or where you end up, I can only imagine that it'll help prepare extremely experienced and aware physicians. That's my take at least. You asked before about a rural commitment and no, there is none other than being committed to the program during your TCOM years. I still love the idea of rural medicine and there's a good chance I'll go that route, but there's plenty of time to still decide. 🙂
 
hah yeah i'm just going day by day. been trying to get my books sold on amazon hehe. and i'm preparing for cell bio this semester.......:scared: other than that there's nothing to do...a little less than 2 more weeks i suppose

btw, there aren't anymore square Jolly Ranchers??? i haven't had those in so long...but now that i think about it, the last time i did have them they were shaped like Tootsie Rolls......man we're getting old. what happened to the rectangular pack of square Jolly Ranchers that were so hard to separate....are Life Savers still shaped like a donut?
 
I didn't know that they got rid of square jolly ranchers! That's weird.

Steelers and Cardinals in the Super Bowl. Who would have predicted that?
 
Square jolly ranchers?! That must have been the high-end version of them, because I can only remember the rectangular-prism ones... 😛

Super Bowl, meh. Though it would be nice for a big distraction from waiting for the match results.

Teacherman- how did your Tech interview go?
 
Square jolly ranchers?! That must have been the high-end version of them, because I can only remember the rectangular-prism ones... 😛

Super Bowl, meh. Though it would be nice for a big distraction from waiting for the match results.

Teacherman- how did your Tech interview go?

I think it went pretty well. It was weird because before the interview I remember thinking that I had never had an interview with a med student and at Tech both of my interviews were with MS IIIs. Most of the interviewees had at least one student interviewer. I stayed with a student the night before and went out with some students the night after. I really liked Tech quite a bit. How did you like Tech, and which school did you like the most?
 
I think it went pretty well. It was weird because before the interview I remember thinking that I had never had an interview with a med student and at Tech both of my interviews were with MS IIIs. Most of the interviewees had at least one student interviewer. I stayed with a student the night before and went out with some students the night after. I really liked Tech quite a bit. How did you like Tech, and which school did you like the most?

I am regretting that I did not apply there, sounds like a great program!
 
Yes, thanks for remembering me. I was extremely skeptical at the beginning, but after I talked to Dr. Bowling (the head of the ROME program), current students, and even current applicants, I'm absolutely thrilled about it! You're right, there are additional classes, but from what I can gather these are usually pretty exciting. You get to learn a lot of specialist techniques right from the start because they're training you, of course, for rural life. So regardless of your specialty or where you end up, I can only imagine that it'll help prepare extremely experienced and aware physicians. That's my take at least. You asked before about a rural commitment and no, there is none other than being committed to the program during your TCOM years. I still love the idea of rural medicine and there's a good chance I'll go that route, but there's plenty of time to still decide. 🙂

That's pretty cool. I don't know about how much it entails, but it's great that you're still open to other options too.


Also, :laugh: to everyone about the Jolly Ranchers. Yeah, they got rid of them awhile back and I miss them because they're not as sticky/gunky as their rectangular counterparts. I don't know why they got rid of them.
 
I remember my dentist once saying that jolly ranchers were the worst candy for your teeth. So who knows whatever happened to them.

I know its been discussed. But are we sure that they are going to release the match results on Feb 1st. (Saturday night/Sunday AM)? Or is it still up in the air that it could be Fri, Sat night, or Monday?
 
i'm a chocolate fan anyway. maybe a pre-dental or dental student can come over and school us on bad candies for us hehe.

I know its been discussed. But are we sure that they are going to release the match results on Feb 1st. (Saturday night/Sunday AM)? Or is it still up in the air that it could be Fri, Sat night, or Monday?

and about that match date, nope still up in the air. as if the suspense can't get any worse. now we have to wonder about which of the four days of the end and beginning of the week match will land on. blah.
 
I think it went pretty well. It was weird because before the interview I remember thinking that I had never had an interview with a med student and at Tech both of my interviews were with MS IIIs. Most of the interviewees had at least one student interviewer. I stayed with a student the night before and went out with some students the night after. I really liked Tech quite a bit. How did you like Tech, and which school did you like the most?

Since I'm lazy and posted about Tech earlier (before you went to interview), here's a link to my earlier post about it in case you didn't see it already.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=7559139#post7559139

In short though, I would say I was pleasantly surprised. I would have to say that at first, the concept of rotations in multiple cities sort of scared me at first (e.g. Tech and A&M) as I'm used to hearing about the TMC and multitudes of other hospitals here in Houston. After thinking it through though, it makes sense to spread out as there aren't huge amounts of people in Lubbock (or College Station).

Hopefully I won't generate lots of hate from this thread, but I did end up ranking Tech higher than TCOM in my match. :ninja:
 
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