WildZoo's WWild ZZoo Part 2 - Game Thread

[Lawpy]

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Why them two? Inherent wolfiness?

Dartboards are based on rnging the roster pls

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Because her play isn't actually that predictable, so I wanted to make a joke.

Yeah if I were to describe my play in one word, probably "unpredictable" fits.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

"scattered" works as well, or "inconsistent" if one prefers.

 

[Lawpy]

Spoiler

Zenge that's clearly a sheared sheep

Thanks, now “goats are sheared sheep” is now ingrained in my head just like “crickets are land shrimp”

 

[Lawpy]

I typed in “goat screaming” and that’s the one that came up. Let me fix it!

Edit: It’s Fixed!

Zenges pls

 

[genny]

Thanks, now “goats are sheared sheep” is now ingrained in my head just like “crickets are land shrimp”

Oh that explains my deep mistrust of crickets then

 

[Truenamer]

Oh that explains my deep mistrust of crickets then

They're just so... spiky. If they're harmless, why do they need to be so sharp?

 

[Truenamer]

Hey, @Animal Midwife, have you ever been a wolf two games in a row?

 

[WildZoo]

for thinking that a clipped suffolk was A GOAT

God I was so confused until I realized he'd edited a different gif into the post. Thought everyone was on crazy pills. Carry on.

 

[mkg323]

Dartboards are based on rnging the roster pls

how convenient that the RNG picked two people that are always thought to be sus

 

[Santygrass]

I like this reaction from Zenge more than I like the votes on him.

What in that post is villagery? That is a post about claiming/mech related stuff that is super easy to fake and do as any alignment. Voting and getting wagons started helps villa more .

I think the sheeping is more of an issue here.

Maybe... A SKILL issue? And why?
This doesnt ping me from Clem specifically.

Day 1: [tbd] Vote Tally

Khepri (1) - AM
Zenges (4) - genny, Santy, Clem, mkg
Santy (1) - True
mkg (1) - Lawpy

7/12

Missing: @Khepri @potentialsheltervet @NateTheLesser @Zenge142 @justafluff

Vote closes at 10pm EDT TOMORROW (~34 hours)

Mkg and Zenge prob unpaired based on Mkg's vote too.

It's been so long since I played with OG Lawpy I couldn't remember whether he usually votes right away. The only game I remember playing with him where he was original roster rather than sub is BoWWling, so I ran over to that thread to check.

Spoiler: It's a Strike!

Second post

In response to True asking whether we needed to yeet right away

So yes, he did vote right away in that game too and was village.

Getting decent PSV vibes, but I won't be convinced until she has a crisis of faith about me before eventually turning it around.

True vibing with my psv read is also a good indicator.
Zenge continues to be wolfy tho. Psv wanting for me to explain why is it 'forced' is something I wont do, like what even is the point Im not going to try to dive into semantics or some **** to point why it doesnt feel natural. If you cant see it, Skill Issue

 

[Truenamer]

how convenient that the RNG picked two people that are always thought to be sus

Even rng is biased against you

 

[Truenamer]

Mkg and Zenge prob unpaired based on Mkg's vote too.

How confident are you about this? Feels like it would be relatively easy to put a not-very-serious vote on a partner in that position.

It makes the whole wagon seem less serious, possibly diffusing some tension, and gives you something to point to much later in the game as an unpairing interaction.

 

[Lawpy]

how convenient that the RNG picked two people that are always thought to be sus

Even rng is biased against you

How does popcorn RNG react?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Hey, @Animal Midwife, have you ever been a wolf two games in a row?

Yes. I wolfed in 2 games at once in 2018.

 

[Zenge142]

Mkg and Zenge prob unpaired based on Mkg's vote too.

Nah. I bet Wolf MK would joke vote me D1 if we were packmates

How confident are you about this? Feels like it would be relatively easy to put a not-very-serious vote on a partner in that position.

It makes the whole wagon seem less serious, possibly diffusing some tension, and gives you something to point to much later in the game as an unpairing interaction.

Agreed

 

[Zenge142]

Zenge continues to be wolfy tho.

Can you highlight specifics?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Nah. I bet Wolf MK would joke vote me D1 if we were packmates

Agreed

I think this comment is actually unpairing.

 

[mkg323]

Nah. I bet Wolf MK would joke vote me D1 if we were packmates

Agreed

I mean probably yes, but also STOP UNDERMINING THE LITTLE VILLAGE CRED I HAVE RN

 

[Lawpy]

Maybe... A SKILL issue? And why?
This doesnt ping me from Clem specifically.

Because it was giving off an impression that Clems saw your reasoning and wants to happily follow through.

 

[Truenamer]

Yes. I wolfed in 2 games at once in 2018.

That sounds either extremely fun or extremely stressful (or both).

Thanks for this response, it was helpful.

 

[Truenamer]

I mean probably yes, but also STOP UNDERMINING THE LITTLE VILLAGE CRED I HAVE RN

mkg seems pretty wolfy, we should wait until 3 minutes before yeet close and then flash-wagon

 

[Zenge142]

I mean probably yes, but also STOP UNDERMINING THE LITTLE VILLAGE CRED I HAVE RN

MK pls. Why do you think you have village cred for joke voting me?

 

[Zenge142]

mkg seems pretty wolfy, we should wait until 3 minutes before yeet close and then flash-wagon

NO!

Although it would be payback for Madagascar

 

[justafluff]

Hey y’all! I’m having a migraine and forgot the game had started!
I also don’t particularly like the votes on Zenge but I can see how some of his posts would be sus to ppl who haven’t played much with him. I personally haven’t gotten any red flags from his posts.
ClemJ’s jokiness about being a wolf and jumping on Zenge’s vote, I feel less good about.

 

[justafluff]

They're just so... spiky. If they're harmless, why do they need to be so sharp?

and loud!!

 

[Animal Midwife]

Hey y’all! I’m having a migraine and forgot the game had started!
I also don’t particularly like the votes on Zenge but I can see how some of his posts would be sus to ppl who haven’t played much with him. I personally haven’t gotten any red flags from his posts.
ClemJ’s jokiness about being a wolf and jumping on Zenge’s vote, I feel less good about.

Half of those votes are people who've played a lot with him. Does that affect anything?

 

[Santygrass]

I think it’s weird that you’re both just sheeping Santy without providing much thought or reasoning of your own, and simultaneously claiming to be village reading Santy because you’re a wolf who’s got “TMI”.

In my experience I’ve only ever seen wolves joke about being wolves and laugh all the way to the bank.

The more I think about it, the more Clem’s vote feels Wolfy opportunistic.

*Zenge expresses some sort of sus on Clem
*Clem appears on the thread and make a couple posts, reaffirming their vote on Zenges.
*Zenges doesn't adress or reacts to Clem at all.

That's wolfy to me. Zenge's thoughts about Clem vote there were prob fake. He asks AM about Lawpy entrance, or now is asking me about reasons, but they didnt adress Clem, a slot which they already cast suspicion. There's no hunting there.

Their post have been with pause/nuance , not getting into thread yet and doing surface impressions, which can be NAI and related to Zenge's playstyle. True's tr of the Jailer related post is what I think fit into nuanced that is probably NAI . Since they are low involvment and super easy to fake.

How confident are you about this? Feels like it would be relatively easy to put a not-very-serious vote on a partner in that position.

It makes the whole wagon seem less serious, possibly diffusing some tension, and gives you something to point to much later in the game as an unpairing interaction.

The vote without context? Yeah super easy to fake.
Putting your partner at 4 votes? Zenge knowing how stubborn I was on Cray's ass D1? I dont think so much. It obviously depends on how theh fluctuate a little, but Im pretty sure that its unpairing.

Zenge reaction to it also is unpairing, as AM pointed out. If someone mistakenly unpairs you from your partner, you take it, you dont dismiss it.
Also, its a weird post to make as town in itself. Like, it doesnt help V!Zenge at all to clarify that they are unpaired. That post is only helpful for him in a W!Zenge V!MKG world.

Because it was giving off an impression that Clems saw your reasoning and wants to happily follow through.

Yes. And it is SoD . Signalboosting someone vote and make things pick up traction you think is wolfy? I think that overall is something that helps Villa. I am not V reading Clem for it cause it is something bery easy to do as wolf also, but I disagree with the argument that blindly sheeping is Wolf Indicative at SoD

 

[Lawpy]

Yes. And it is SoD . Signalboosting someone vote and make things pick up traction you think is wolfy? I think that overall is something that helps Villa. I am not V reading Clem for it cause it is something bery easy to do as wolf also, but I disagree with the argument that blindly sheeping is Wolf Indicative at SoD

Can you clarify what SoD stands for?

 

[Zenge142]

*Zenge expresses some sort of sus on Clem
*Clem appears on the thread and make a couple posts, reaffirming their vote on Zenges.
*Zenges doesn't adress or reacts to Clem at all.

That's wolfy to me.

These were the posts Clem made:

You've never had the Full Nanook Experience then smh

Voting a mafia probably

OMG WHY WOULD YOU BLOW UP MY SPOT LIKE THAT SAD UWU

So you actually think Zenge is a wolf?

The first and third are joke posts that contribute nothing and don’t need to be remarked on.

The second is a doubling down on the vote on me, which their only reasoning for to date was sheeping you.

The only question I would have had was asked by PSV before I saw the thread, and has yet to be answered by Clem.

I’m not really sure what kind of “interaction” you’re expecting me to have with someone who pops on to make 2 joke posts and a single double down on sheeping someone else without explanation.

 

[justafluff]

That sounds either extremely fun or extremely stressful (or both).

Thanks for this response, it was helpful.

Why did you ask AM specifically? Is she giving you any wolf vibes here?

 

[Lawpy]

Wait is SoD = Start of Day?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

True vibing with my psv read is also a good indicator.
Zenge continues to be wolfy tho. Psv wanting for me to explain why is it 'forced' is something I wont do, like what even is the point Im not going to try to dive into semantics or some **** to point why it doesnt feel natural. If you cant see it, Skill Issue

Ironically, the eye doctor told me a couple days ago my eyes do in fact have a skill issue. He called it convergence insufficiency but I know what he meant.

Half of those votes are people who've played a lot with him. Does that affect anything?

How are *you* reading Zenge?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Wait is SoD = Start of Day?

I assumed so

 

[justafluff]

Half of those votes are people who've played a lot with him. Does that affect anything?

I assume that Genny’s vote is a joke, but I don’t understand mkg’s vote. Could it be a pressure vote just to check reactions? I’m not sure if mkg plays that way..

 

[Zenge142]

Also, its a weird post to make as town in itself. Like, it doesnt help V!Zenge at all to clarify that they are unpaired. That post is only helpful for him in a W!Zenge V!MKG world.

I completely disagree. Having things that are not true characterized about people on the thread is inherently anti-village.

Saying “MK wouldn’t vote me D1 if we were w/w” is just untrue, especially since she’s clearly joking. People could make a lot of false assumptions if they start building off a false premise.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I assume that Genny’s vote is a joke, but I don’t understand mkg’s vote. Could it be a pressure vote just to check reactions? I’m not sure if mkg plays that way...

Mk jokingly voted Zenge because he used a gif of a sheep and called it a goat. She hasn't to my knowledge explained further whether it's taken on a serious cadence or not

 

[Zenge142]

I assume that Genny’s vote is a joke, but I don’t understand mkg’s vote. Could it be a pressure vote just to check reactions? I’m not sure if mkg plays that way..

I would reverse those. MKs vote is a joke. Genny is more likely pressuring me/checking my reaction like she did to AM the game before last.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I feel like Santy is being stretchy and I also feel like, with n=2, stretchy is more of a village thing from him.

 

[Truenamer]

Why did you ask AM specifically? Is she giving you any wolf vibes here?

She just ate my lunch as a wolf last game, so I was fishing a bit to see how touchy she was.

She was not very touchy at all. She didn't even seem to think that I was implying that she was a wolf this game. Pondering what that means.

 

[Santygrass]

SoD = Start of Day . Its the opposite of EoD , where the RVS happens and everyone throws poo at the wall and see what happens.

I'm making a difference specifically in how you treated Lawpy entrance (Asking about the dartboard, to then ask for AM opinion) , to the one of Clem, who you were sussing.
Specially cause they doubled down ln you, I would expect a reaction from you? More than 'oh psv already asked what I was thinking' . And not adress it. Even a comment about Clem being wolfy without interacting with him would make me believe your early sus on Clem.

 

[justafluff]

Mk jokingly voted Zenge because he used a gif of a sheep and called it a goat. She hasn't to my knowledge explained further whether it's taken on a serious cadence or not

Yeah it appeared as a joke vote but she could also have checked the votes before entering the thread and decided to land there under the premise of a joke vote.

 

[WildZoo]

Yes. I wolfed in 2 games at once in 2018.

I remember this!!
Didn't you win both?

 

[Zenge142]

I'm making a difference specifically in how you treated Lawpy entrance (Asking about the dartboard, to then ask for AM opinion) , to the one of Clem, who you were sussing.

Lawpy saying he had a dartboard was indicative of having more than one person he was choosing to vote between. I wanted to know who the others were. I asked AM about Lawpy because she’s never once read him wrong, so it’s good to check in and see what she’s thinking about him as the game progresses.

I’m waiting for PSV’s question to Clem to get answered. She asked a question first, and she may have follow up questions.

 

[justafluff]

I would reverse those. MKs vote is a joke. Genny is more likely pressuring me/checking my reaction like she did to AM the game before last.

It’s just hard for me to believe that you can pile up as the 4th vote on someone based on a joke. Randomly voting someone without any votes yes. But she’s actively expanding a wagon here

 

[Lawpy]

SoD = Start of Day . Its the opposite of EoD , where the RVS happens and everyone throws poo at the wall and see what happens.

Yeah i inferred from the context

I get your point about the benefits of signalboosting players early. But Clems’s blind agreement of your reasoning is just going to be a ping for me atm. I’d agree the sheeping would be far more problematic near EoD compared to SoD though.

 

[Zenge142]

It’s just hard for me to believe that you can pile up as the 4th vote on someone based on a joke. Randomly voting someone without any votes yes. But she’s actively expanding a wagon here

It’s 100% possible she didn’t know the tally

 

[Santygrass]

I completely disagree. Having things that are not true characterized about people on the thread is inherently anti-village.

Saying “MK wouldn’t vote me D1 if we were w/w” is just untrue, especially since she’s clearly joking. People could make a lot of false assumptions if they start building off a false premise.

You can go at the read and claim its bull****, or something. But ultimately, what wrong assumption could end up by the fact that people think you and MKG are unpaired? Something that V!you would know for a fact its 100% true ?
And I obv know they were joking, but wagonomics are also a thing, and how a wolf team reacts to a wagon also gives inf bla bla bla.

If someone rn says that me and you are unpaired because of my accusations, I'd nod along even if I think that assumption is wrong, because it would lead people in a solve more similar from mine for sure, so in the end is benefitial for me /shrug . Like, I could understand dismissing a read if you thought that the one making it was high/speaking nonsense. But your clarification wasnt to correct me / shade me / try to lead into other direction, the goal felt more like 'Mkg and me could be paired still!' which isnt benefitial ffor you if you are Villa in my eyes.

 

[Animal Midwife]

How are *you* reading Zenge?

I don't have a read on him currently.

 

[Zenge142]

More than 'oh psv already asked what I was thinking' . And not adress it. Even a comment about Clem being wolfy without interacting with him would make me believe your early sus on Clem.

I’m waiting for PSV’s question to Clem to get answered. She asked a question first, and she may have follow up questions.

So do you not think sheeping you and not providing reasoning or thoughts of their own is Village?

Because if you take issue with my finding Clems behavior Wolfy, then you must alternatively see it as villagey, so I’m wondering why you think blindly sheeping you onto a vote for a villager is “villagey”?